Is he going to go nuclear? And make diamonds from his pilots' ashes?
I wish a nigga would
>>56682617
He'll be standing on the edge of the crater, friend.
>>56682717
Just like the prophets once said.
>>56682682
>no
>>56682682
>>56682653
>yes
>>56682682
The many sides of /pol/
Russia is a paper tiger
that jet was like half their GDP lel
>>56682717
I guess I wouldn't mind a giant crater right in the middle east.
dat filemane
He is building an army of RoboPutins as we speak.
>>56682617
Why are we still here?
>>56682779
>old jet from the 60s
>not even a su-25
Yeah, I doubt it
>>56683025
>Russia wanted to lose that jet, wasn't worth much
>that's why they're not making a big deal guyz, not because they are pussies
>>56683133
I don't know, man, but fucking with NATO over a shitty old jet isn't exactly the best idea.
>>56683242
It's not about the jet. If Russia says it's about the jet they're making shit up.
It's about the bigger picture if Russia wanted to see it that way. Russia knows it was in the wrong and that's the bottom line. If you are in the right then it's worth a war for a jet, if you're in the wrong it isn't.
Russia knows it's not worth starting a war over bullshit. The problem is all they have been doing is bullshit, crossing borders, going where they shouldn't be, ignoring what people tell them. If they go to war it wouldn't be over a jet, it would be because they want to test motherfuckers and motherfuckers finally responded because they asked for it, and that's exactly the case.
>>56682755
And the ashes, are all cold now.
>>56682617
Would Putin be Big Boss or Venom?
>>56682802
>implying an army of manlet bots is worth anything
>>56683515
>Bear riding judo masters, immune to alcohol
>with super low centers of gravity
My god, they'd run over the world
>>56683415
World politics don't work like that. You can sometimes be absolutely right but for the sake of peace (or survival) you just gotta let go.
>The problem is all they have been doing is bullshit, crossing borders, going where they shouldn't be, ignoring what people tell them.
Much as this is true for their usual MO, this time they were clearly just passing a FRIENDLY STATE to bomb their enemy (who's also the enemy of the friendly state at least officially). It wasn't really a test on anyone. And the jet was downed in Syria anyway.
>>56683499
Big Boss
>>56682779
you do realize they've just started a massive oil production in Siberia? yaaa I wouldn't call them poor.
>>56683725
>World politics don't work like that. You can sometimes be absolutely right but for the sake of peace (or survival) you just gotta let go.
I hear that but with Russia how likely would that be the case? they obviously don't care about world politics, look at Crimea. If they don't do shit it's NOT because of world politics. Survival and being a pussy look the same from outside perspective so not sure about that one.
To the latest news our S-400 already working and tracking any jets flying around Syrian-Turkey border.
>>56684044
In Crimea the had the advantage of power because NATO couldn't do shit.
In case of Turkey it's not the same. The whole thing might as well be a provocation to mke Russia go against a NATO state so that NATO could respond by a proper military action against Russia to drive them away from middle east, since russian preesnce there makes USA absolutely MAD.
He's gonna take it like a bitch and just whine about "muh stab in the back"
>>56684325
Thread theme btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSUEU7ISfQ
>>56683499
Olga
>>56684286
>NATO can't do shit
what right did Russia have to get involved in Crimea?
my point is they were risking a real conflict with NATO in there and they knew this.
>>56684216
why wasnt this done before the shoot down
why weren't bombers escorted by a fighter
ridiculous
>>56684286
This. Also Crimea is just a relatively small piece of land compared to Turkey. It would take years to conquer the entire country with ground forces, and missile strikes wouldn't do a damn thing in the long run other than piss Turkey off and invite retaliation by NATO.
However, Russia might shoot down one or more Turkish warplanes that wander into Syrian airspace.
>>56683469
No more bullets and the embers are dead
>>56683915
>you do realize they've just started a massive oil production in Siberia? yaaa I wouldn't call them poor.
You do realize oil has crashed and is currently trading around $40 a barrel? I doubt they're making much, if any, profit at that price point.
>>56684490
About the same right that america has when getting involved into anything in the middle east.
And no, they weren't risking a conflict with NATO.
>>56684623
>However, Russia might shoot down one or more Turkish warplanes that wander into Syrian airspace.
True but I bet that the west will be mad about this because officially Turkey fights with IS so Russia would be painted as terrorist supporter.
>>56682617
Yes,
Don't leave home tomorrow
Today is the last day you can free buy food, so you should do it right now
I hope Poland will not be destroed, but you have NATO bases on you territiry. If you live nerly them. it's better to immideatly leave this place.
From Russia with love.
>>56684623
Russia doesn't want a god damned thing in turkey except control of the Bosphorus.
Greece, Kurds, Bulgiaria, a russian friendly turk, armenia, syria, and Iran can have the rest
>>56684701
>About the same right that america has when getting involved into anything in the middle east
so basically you're saying no right, so when Russia has no right to get involved they do, just like America gets involved when we have no right.
So you're saying America/NATO won't get involved because we don't have the right when your'e aware we have gotten involved when we have no right.
>>56684678
Are you stupid or what, from the first second you start to pumo oil from the ground it's profic, you are iluded by the fact that the oil price had crashed, its still very pofitable.
>>56684623
Russia would need to secure a coalition to invade.
>Iraqi Kurds
>syria
>turkish Kurds
>Greece
>Serbia
>Macedonia
>Belarus
>Armenia
Step one: secure the Bosporus by using joint forces of russian and greek navies with coalition ground troops coming from Greece toward istanbul
Step two: secure Cyprus and use special forces to help Greeks overthrow Turks there if they don't leave when Bosporus operation happens anyway.
Step 3: use existing forces with Iranian support to whittle away the edges of Turkey around Syria, Iraq and armenia.
>>56684396
That's one big thanksgiving turkey
He's already a demon
>>56684891
Let me put it differently. NATO had neither the right, nor the obligation to get involved in Crimea. Not all NATO states wanted to get involved in that conflict at all because it served to nobody's interest (except for maybe America but that was purely to slander Russia), so NATO didn't do shit and wouldn't do shit. Russia had a free hand at Crimea. It techchnically didn't have the right but they really just came in, secured the area, got the referendum going where people chose to secede from Ukraine, where Russia merely served as a peacekeeper.
The Boss was right...
I want
to
believe
>>56682617
Someone please photoshop an image of Putin to look like Big Boss.
>>56682617
He's pretty wild.
>>56686896
>>56682617
of course not, instead he is going to:
1) arm the kurds
2) stop isis oil from reaching turkey
3) shoot down turkish jets should they venture into syrian air space
>>56684044
If we didn't care about world politics, we would occupy most of Ukraine, lad.
>>56687203
>1) arm the kurds
>implying they weren't already doing that
What are they going to do, give them two rifles each?
In any case, as long as Turkey is allied with Iraqi Kurds, which they are now since Turkish military even trains Peshmerga, nothing will change regarding the status quo in Syria.
I expect they will shoot Turkish jets if they go into Syrian controlled airspace probably.
>>56687628
>What are they going to do
possibly give them anti-tank missiles and mortars
>>56687628
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K38_Igla
How would you like Turkish planes getting shot down every time they take off?
One Turkish passenger plane shot down, Erdogan tries to genocide Kurds, NATO kicks you out, finally BTFO from EU, you have to align yourself with sandniggers, even more of a nigger country.
>Children thinking Russia's broke ass is going to war with a member of NATO.
Are all of you drunk?
Putin will
1. sanction trade with Turkey
2. cut off tourism with Turkey
3. MAYBE stop selling fuel to Turkey, (but he's strapped for money)
4. Write angry letters to the UN
5. dump more Russian junk surplus weaponry on the Kurds.
>>56688183
>How would you like Turkish planes getting shot down every time they take off?
If that happens that just gives Turkey greenflag to invade mate. Not smart move, right now our army can't do that because of international and political backlash inside the country but if they shoot down passenger planes that's just giving an excuse to just walk over Syria.
Also Turkey is in NATO because NATO needs Turkey, not vice versa.
>>56688409
>NATO needs turkey
These levels of delusion are staggering
>>56688409
muh nato nato nato nato
literally everything you retarded president said, he pissing his pants his entire speech
>>56688409
>NATO needs Turkey
Yah you're a REAL big help .... ugh
with friends like you.....
>>56688501
If NATO didn't need Turkey, Turkey wouldn't be in NATO, simple as that. Do you think they are doing charity work?
>>56682617
Love that movie by the way, certain that Scorsese studied it because of the fireworks scene.
>>56688554
Nobody needs NATO anymore... it should be disbanded..
>>56688554
with turkey starting shit like this how long do you think it is going to remain in nato?
>>56688536
>>56688664
I want to apologize for the opinions formed by this American, he probably had a deep south education.
>>56688554
>"If Turkey didn't need Greece, Greece wouldn't be in NATO, simple as that"
That's how retarded you sound. I'm pretty sure Turkey was a joke nominee on the list, so a bunch of people thought it'd be funny to put it. And then you accidentally got in.
>>56688536
You think Turkey is not a help because they buy oil from ISIS? Pretty fucking naive to think that, did you think that world conflicts are some sort of black-white with clear cut sides?
Especially considering USA was backing up FSA and other Islamic rebels, one would think it is pretty obvious what this aims to accomplish.
Turkey gets cheap oil, gets a bufferzone, gets to weaken groups endangering its borders (PKK, YPG), while they support and train groups they are in good terms with (Peshmerga).
Meanwhile USA and NATO benefits from Turkey being the watchdogs on the border and having a sizable military force being an element close to Russia and both Iraq and Syria.
Politics are a little bit more complicated than what people say on TV, those are just to appeal to the masses.
>>56688713
Obama is probably mailing Edrogan a nice gift package as we speak.
He didn't "start" anything, he ended Russia's constant buzzing around a NATO nation's airspace during an ongoing conflict.
This is the only kind of action a semi-educated Thug like Putiin understands.
>>56688751
What does Turkey needing or not needing Greece have to do with NATO?
By the way, Turkey and Greece are huge trade partners, both of them being in NATO prevents any serious conflict and they get to share and learn military information from each other.
>>56682779
HAHA
I generally side with Russia on this matter but it really is refreshing to see a country call their bluff and put them in their place
>MGSV was a huge dissapointment
Can't stop thinking about it at times. It should have been great
FUCKING LOOK AT THIS :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03nUMw7japI
>>56688886
If he does something stupid, he will be down a naval vessel as well. He clearly thinks he is either the USA or the old Soviet Union, and not some broken-apart oil dystopia teetering on the edge of financial ruin.
>>56688764
>USA was backing up FSA
To me and many,many Americans this is a scandal and an outrage.
John McCain being a senior Seanatpr has fucktons of liberty to go adventuring.
He is a fool who thought he was going be another Charlie Wilson who gave the Afghan Mujaheddin the guns to fight Russia in the 80's
Any keyboard general here on /pol/ knew this was an idiots errand destined to backfire in a major way.
Do you think you can just GENOCIDE away anyone you dislike for any petty reason?
This is why you get so much shit.
>>56688409
> nato needs a million turkoman redshirts
> nato needs turkey's cuban army surplus weaponry
> nato needs turkey's kebab sellers supply the mess tentsa of the civilized armies
> nato considers open access to turkish airspace convenient but hardly essential
only one of these is true.
guess which one
>>56689029
>> nato considers open access to turkish airspace convenient but hardly essential
>>56689022
>>56689022
>Do you think you can just GENOCIDE away anyone you dislike for any petty reason?
It's worked out fairly well for them up to this point.
>>56689022
>He is a fool who thought he was going be another Charlie Wilson who gave the Afghan Mujaheddin the guns to fight Russia in the 80's
This was a mistake as well.
I am not saying it is moral or should have been done what I am saying is the conflict is more than just "hurr muzzies vs civilization".
>>56689029
Turkey's weaponry is not cuban surplus, neither is its military force a ragtag team of villagers. I don't even know why do you think like that? It is not US level, or even UK and French level of military but it is still important.
What's your thought process behind your perception of Turkish military? They are muslims so their army must be like that of Syria?
Even if our army wasn't in any way functional, just having the numbers both in equipment and military personnel, coupled with its position would be important to prevent conflicts from escalating further just by virtue of it being there.
>>56685013
> implying russia and Based Putin need anyone's permission or assistance to demolish turkey
turkey's armed forces are a paper kitten
Putin has demonstrated a casual disdain for "international opinion"
if he decides to smash turkey into a thin paste of kebab meat and schwarma theres nothing that will dissuade him
the rest of the world wont do shit.
they might whine and cry and lament the horrors, but they'll do NOTHING as usual.
meanwhile all the civilized peoples of the world will nod gravely and agree that it's a terrible thing, then shrug because nothing of value was lost
NOBODY gives a squirt of piss about turkey, they are more trouble than they are worth, and only inetia and lefty wimpiness has allowed them to strut and posture for so long.
greece will take the opportunity to liberate cyprus, bashar assad will reclaim territory that turkey annexed (plus a lot more) and the rest of durkadurkastan will scramble for the scraps.
>>56689116
>This is why you get so much shit.
complete the thought please... if you think we are nice and comfy you are delusional.. this ride is going to be bumpy..
I don't think major war will erupt over this event... I think Putin sees more value is gaining face with Global powers and Turkey is small potatoes right now..
>>56689261
> implying turkey "prevents conflicts"
turkey is supporting isis with clandestine assistance, letting the durkadurkas swarm into europe at will, repressing the kurds, genociding the armenians, funding terror groups like The Grey Wolves, enabling iran with passive acquiescence to their shenanigans and providing a safe haven for talibs and other salafists
turkey is a rat skulking on the outskirts of civilization stealing scrap and shitting all over everything in any place it can wriggle into
Putin is gonna cleanse that nest of vermin with fire and sword.
>>56684632
IM
NUCLEAAARRRR
>>56689686
you fucked it up maple leaf
A Fallen Legend
nuclear? He is not so stupid. I hope
>>56688821
you must be delusional if you think this ended something
>>56689654
>turkey is supporting isis
Even if they were once, not anymore
> letting the durkadurkas swarm into europe at will
Turkey has more refugees than all of Europe combined, if they were let into Europe, Germany and France would have to take more than a million each.
>repressing the kurds
About half the Kurds vote for AKP, also there is nothing repressing the Kurds
>genociding the armenians
Yeah we are doing it right now
> funding terror groups like The Grey Wolves
Grey wolves are aligned with MHP and the nationalists, not AKP or Erdogan and they haven't been active since 80s
>enabling iran with passive acquiescence to their shenanigan
Iran and Turkey are rivals although trade partners
> safe haven for talibs and other salafists
That's Saudi Arabia, US ally. Turkey is Hanafi sect, not salafi.
I mean literally everything you said is wrong
>>56690318
http://europe.newsweek.com/isis-and-turkey-cooperate-destroy-kurds-former-isis-member-reveals-turkish-282920
A former member of ISIS has revealed the extent to which the cooperation of the Turkish military allows the terrorist group, who now control large parts of Iraq and Syria, to travel through Turkish territory to reinforce fighters battling Kurdish forces.
A reluctant former communications technician working for Islamic State, now going by the pseudonym 'Sherko Omer', who managed to escape the group, told Newsweek that he travelled in a convoy of trucks as part of an ISIS unit from their stronghold in Raqqa, across Turkish border, through Turkey and then back across the border to attack Syrian Kurds in the city of Serekaniye in northern Syria in February.
"ISIS commanders told us to fear nothing at all because there was full cooperation with the Turks," said Omer of crossing the border into Turkey, "and they reassured us that nothing will happen, especially when that is how they regularly travel from Raqqa and Aleppo to the Kurdish areas further northeast of Syria because it was impossible to travel through Syria as YPG [National Army of Syrian Kurdistan] controlled most parts of the Kurdish region."
>>56690416
>2014
Not news that Islamic rebels were supported in the past against Assad, a year and a half later, the situation has changed.
Is US still supporting Al-qaeda?
>>56690318
> implying turkey isnt a main artery for isis' oil exports and a major supplier of all the shit they need since they neither sow nor reap, because they are just bandits.
> implying turkey isnt letting massive numbers of "refugees" "escape" into europe daily
> implying that ~50% of the kurds "voted" for the single candidate on the ballot while a gun was pointed at their heads means something
> implying that the grey wolves dont exist anymore because they are keeping a low profile after their top leader was killed while riding in a limo with turkey's chief of the national police and his mistress
> implying that minor trade rivalries on falafel imports and shwarma franchises with iran prevent them from PASSIVELY ACCEPTING iran's shenanigans on the world stage
> implying turkey is salafist free, despite their numerous ties with the top salafists on the planet and official silence on salafist outrages
i mean literally everything i said was correct and you tried to weasel around the facts.
>>56684858
>I hope Poland will not be destroed
Cvck, pidr.
>>56682617
>This
>>56690786
> implying turkey isnt a main artery for isis' oil exports and a major supplier of all the shit they need since they neither sow nor reap, because they are just bandits.
US does that too, it is just business, what do you expect, not to buy oil and instead be energy starved? Not everyone can do fracking in their own soil.
> implying turkey isnt letting massive numbers of "refugees" "escape" into europe daily
What are you supposed to do, hold them hostage? For every refugee that goes to Europe, more stays in Turkey. Most refugees in Europe aren't even from Syria anyway, Turkey holds most Syrian refugees, by a large margin.
>implying that ~50% of the kurds "voted" for the single candidate on the ballot while a gun was pointed at their heads means something
Did they do that too in 2003 when literally almost all of them voted for AKP, or 2008 when 70% of them did? This is just wrong anyway, no point even responding to.
> implying that the grey wolves dont exist anymore because they are keeping a low profile after their top leader was killed while riding in a limo with turkey's chief of the national police and his mistress
They aren't active, whether they still exist or not doesn't matter.
> implying that minor trade rivalries on falafel imports and shwarma franchises with iran prevent them from PASSIVELY ACCEPTING iran's shenanigans on the world stage
What's wrong with Iran?
> implying turkey is salafist free, despite their numerous ties with the top salafists on the planet and official silence on salafist outrages
AKP is currently in a media-war with our Islamists, arresting their officials and closing their media outlets. Even still, Turkey doesn't have many salafists, nationalists don't like them, leftists don't like them and even conservatives consider them to be too extreme and "ruining the image of Islam".
>i mean literally everything i said was correct and you tried to weasel around the facts.
"no"
>>56691051
> US does that too, it is just business
the US does not buy oil from isis
we may receive oil that isis sold, through various middlemen but oil is a COMMODITY and it's fungible.
theres no way to tell where every drop of oil came from originally, just like "conflict diamonds"
your statement is a LIE
> What are you supposed to do, hold them hostage?
YES you HOLD THEM
refugees are not tourists. you keep them in camps so they dont get killed by the war, then SEND THEM HOME when the shit is over.
> Did they do that too in 2003 when literally almost all of them voted for AKP, or 2008 when 70% of them did? This is just wrong anyway, no point even responding to.
turkey is a repressive regime that forces the kurds to submit or die.
dont pretend they are happy loyal citizens of the great turkish civilization. they are CAPTIVES in their own land.
> They aren't active, whether they still exist or not doesn't matter.
they ARE still active, they just keep a low profile and dont commit atrocities that can be traced back to them.
they are part of turkey's intelligence apparatus now, but turkey wants to pretend they are civilized to get into the EU and nato so they are simply keeping their heads down.
just like WW2, turkey is hiding in a corner waiting for the winner to become apparent so they can jump on the bandwagon once everything is nearly over.
> What's wrong with Iran?
seriously.
what
the
FUCK.
> turkey is currently stompin down their salafists to protect their image so they can get into the EU, so that means the salafists dont exist, despite having media outlets, open out and proud "officials" subject to arrest, and the capability to participate in a "media war"
yep, no salafists in turkey, nothing to see here... move along, lets let turkey join the EU...
> "no"
literally Nuh Uhh!!
you just confirmed 2/3 of my statements and denied the existence of the rest as if your pretense changes reality.
Turkish Logic.
>>56688764
Fuck off kebab you're going to get roasted shortly, get in the oven
>>56688928
what is that doll
it's creepy
