How can you fucking explain yourselves when the world is in such a fucking knot? ISIS is fucking huge, and you know why? Because we just had to go into the middle east to take down the evil dictatorships THAT WE INSTALLED IN THE COLD WAR. THAT IS WHY ISIS HATES US. THAT IS WHY 9/11 HAPPENED. BUT NO, IT'S BECAUSE "THEY HATE OUR FREEDOMS"
Look at this country over here. Look at it you stupid little faggot. Did you know that we were essentially the same thing during WW1? The only difference? WE WERE ACROSS A FUCKING POND WITH CANADA AND A DRUG CARTEL AS OUR CLOSEST NEIGHBORS.
BUT NO! WE CAN'T HAVE THAT SO WE SAIL ACROSS THE FUCKING ATLANTIC TO INSTIGATE THE REST OF THE WORLD. NOW EVERY FUCKING WAR WE'VE FOUGHT SINCE HAS BEEN TO FIX A PROBLEM THAT WAS CAUSED BY THE LAST. We don't have to be the fucking policeman of the world. No one would give a flying shit about us if we didn't fiddle with everyone else.
So no. We shouldn't fight ISIS. We shouldn't give a shit about what happened to France, we shouldn't be in NATO, or the UN, or any other stupid treaty we have lying around. We have the strongest military in the world. Bring it back to defend the homeland, let the citizens bear arms, and try to be like Switzerland because it's easy as fuck where we're standing.
Too late for that now bucko
It would never happen anyway
the bus of progress needs a driver
but the road to utopia is a bumpy one
it's also foggy so it's hard to see the potholes
>>56668998
>left wing faggots unironically believe Muslims attack Western nations because of American foreign dip, and not because of Islam
>>56669588
Also we only have a quarter tank of gas
oh and the driver actually wants to go somewhere else but isn't telling us
>>56669702
It's both.
They attack us because of Islam, but they are ABLE to attack us because we toppled their governments.
There would still be rule of law in the Middle East without our meddling.
OP...see US puppet masters of our "leaders"/elected officials. These pigs wage war AGAINST the will of the people.
Prez Barry came off as an anti-war peacekeeper...and look at how many invasions he waged.
>>56668998
>Because we just had to go into the middle east to take down the evil dictatorships THAT WE INSTALLED IN THE COLD WAR. THAT IS WHY ISIS HATES US. THAT IS WHY 9/11 HAPPENED. BUT NO, IT'S BECAUSE "THEY HATE OUR FREEDOMS"
No, Islam has always been anti-West and always pushed to prey on or destroy Western civilization. And Islamic terrorism precedes every modern "war" in the Middle East.
Fucking commie shill
>>56669826
Other way around, bud. Terrorists commonly site US intervention in the Middle East, whether it is installing or taking down a dictator. They have also always had safe haven in Afghanistan.
>>56669702
The US invented radical Islam.
>>56669826
They are able to attack us because those same left wing faggots who were wrong about American foreign dip were also wrong about bringing them into our countries.
Sure, let's just invite in a bloodsworn enemy that's attacked us for 1,300 continuous years and have them live in our kids' gym despite the fact they have a very obvious and proven cultural inclination towards murder and child-rape and hatred of our kind. What could possibly go wrong.
Whoopsie they liquidated 130 of our countrymen and fucked 1400 kids. Bawwwww, it must be those evil right-wingers' fault.
>>56670149
You might actually want to read the Hadith sometime instead of memeing.
we would need to wain our oil consumption first and there's only one way to do that my friend
>>56669939
Source?
>>56668998
You think too highly of us faggot. We (US) are shit pawns in the big game. But at least we fight.
Every other man or woman in America will die for the rights we have.
Test us.
And all will know.
>>56670360
History.
>>56670149
Stop. You're embarrassing.
>>56670360
Find something that says otherwise.
>>56670418
I'll even take any mentioning of an Islamic terrorist attack on the west before WW2.
>>56670646
Ottomans
>>56670646
Sure here you go
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Broken_Hill
>>56668998
You can thank Schlomo for all of this.
You create a problem, create a solution, then a new problem emerges and the cycle goes on.
People are angry we went into the middle east, some people say we did it for oil, some will say we did it for Israel, and some will say we did it because of 9-11. Do or dont, the people would be angry either way. 10 bucks says, is the US would have let 9-11 slide, and sadome using chemicals on his own people pass, people would still be angry.
Of course.
Ron Paul was the last hope. He lost though.
>>56670646
We fought 2 wars in North Africa over "piracy" with the Barbary states in the 1800s because they fought it was perfectly justified in attacking Western shipping and demanding tribute from Western nations. It was our first foreign war.
>>56670846
Good contribution.
>>56670846
Also jew war profiteers who control and manipulate the flow of information.
>>56670994
>because they fought
*thought
>>56670720
The Ottomans had one war with Italy that had nothing to do with Islam, and then fought in WW1 in defense of Islam if anything.
>>56670646
Roman - Parthian wars. The longest wars in recorded history were still between shitskins and Europeans (and this is BEFORE Islam).
>>56671006
Good jidfing
>>56668998
>being this much russian
>>56671058
>The Ottomans had one war with Italy that had nothing to do with Islam
>>56671093
...
>>56668998
>Because we just had to go into the middle east to take down the evil dictatorships THAT WE INSTALLED IN THE COLD WAR
You raise a good point.
Arabs don't have any experience with democracy. They're much better off under an authoritarian leader.
Removing Saddam and Ghadaffi was a mistake.
>>56671058
Nope, that's not correct. A 20 minute Google fun can prove that..
>>56671258
Shhh...
Shhhh..
Let Australia be Australia.
>>56671130
Thanks, I try
>>56671258
Don't believe me?
>>56668998
OP is a giant flaming faggot.
>>56671471
FUCK OFF HE'S THINKING
>>56671652
right then, carry on
>>56671652
obuıp 'ɟɟo ʞɔnɟ
>>56671446
>>56671190
I'm going to take a wild guess that you guys think Poland and Austria are considered the west?
>>56671910
West of shitville
Not west of the Atlantic
>you
>we
Nope. I'm not in the least responsible for any of that shit.
>>56672050
Poland and Austria are not the west, you uneducated fucklord.
>>56672272
>bait: the post
Go back to /hm/, faggots don't belong here.
>>56672272
Geography determines location. Not your ideals kiddo.
>>56672603
You literally just said >>56672050
So your interpretation of the "western world" is the countries west of the line drawn most conveniently for your argument?
>>56671652
>status quo ante bellum
And nothing is new in the world