Is there any way for a command economy to work in the long term?
>>56656359
Its a good question. With today's instant communications and super computers it might be able to.
>>56656359
ask /his/
>>56656474
I thought about it but I already posted here so fuck it.
No. It never worked. It doesn't work. It will never work.
>>56656359
No, the self-correcting supply/demand free market price system always results in a better allocation of resources. A command economy is just guessing things, with better technology is going to get more accurate but I doubt it will ever approach free market levels. Plus, why go into all that effort when you can literally leave the market be and it's fine?
>>56656756
Cause its not fine.
>>56656359
No.
If you want to find out why, read about the economic histories of every centrally-planned economy in history.
Empiricism uber alles.
>>56656851
Not with Jews around.
>>56656756
A free market doesn't care about resources. It cares about revenue.
>>56656359
By commanding the economy to be a free market
>>56656972
Something not working any number of times it not proof that it may never work. You can only ever prove that something works, by doing it successfully at least once. Proving that something does not work remains inconclusive.
you would be trying to predict a chaotic system, a
small deviation in initial conditions will result in significantly different outcomes. Hence in the long term it will fail, command economies are good in the short term when there is a clear goal and you have centralized power.
>>56656359
Long term? What's that?
>>56656359
Yes.
But it only works on a fairly small scale. Feudalism was basically a command economy, but it was operated within individual communities of a few hundred or a few thousand individuals under a lord, rather than on the national scale.
Perhaps in the future, computerized systems could be efficient enough to administer a command economy on a national scale, but who knows?
>>56656851
Capitalism has objectively helped lift hundreds of millions of people out of poverty and to a standard of living unimaginable a century ago for the middle classes
>>56657256
Markets aren't exclusive to Capitalism, you're going off track here.
>>56657147
You're not wrong, but pretending that every single failure of an experiment is down to ill fortune rather than the theory being faulty is just naive and a little silly.
>>56657242
holy fuck that picture.
>>56656359
No.
It's probably the best thing for turning a land of illiterate peasants living on farms who think eating meat is a luxury in to a land of amoral drones who do at least get to live in cities, eat meat regularly and know how to read. You just have to be prepared to massacre them occasionally whenever they get brave enough to point out your inevitable fuck ups. This is how a lot of countries went from shit tier to poor tier (Russia, China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, etc...)
The problem is that once you get to a basic level of infrastructure and industrial development, having the Glorious Leaders, backed by the army and secret police, have final say on everything always leads to trouble as the privileged class fights to maintain the economic status quo, even when their growth model has become inappropriate. Also, people who have spent their entire lives playing Byzantine political games, like China's leaders, usually don't know what is best for the economy long-term and are rarely humble enough to listen to people who might. So, unless you are small enough to be micro-managed (i.e. a city-state like Hong Kong or Singapore) or have enormous amounts of mineral wealth per capita so there is no need to be efficient (Saudi, Qatar), then you need a more productive population. This is impossible unless that population feels that they have a stake in the system; and the only way to do that is to liberalise the political system and give people real freedom. Nobody really believes in a system that asserts its right to throw them in jail merely for non-violent free speech; at best they are only prepared to use it.
Japan, Korea and Taiwan were smart enough to understand this and liberalised. They are now rich countries. The Communist Party of the Soviet Union were too power-greedy and held on too long; Russia is not rich. And the Chinese Communist Party are no smarter and even more greedy than the CPSU were, and they'll hold on until it's too late too.
What if the command economy made the exact same decisions as a free market would?
>>56658893
too many things to be micromanaged, and limited amount of info to be able to make the correct decision every time.
