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>Middle class family in the Midwest
>wake up and eat tax free and cheap breakfast prepared by my wonderful wife
>children look forward to go to school and learn valuable information in the reformed school system
>go to work
>software engineer
>wage has been increased, same as other workers
>enjoy stress free work
>go home at 3 because the work day has been shortened
>car crash
>get injured
>better by tomorrow
>only owe hospital a few hours worth of work
>enjoy my wonderful life with family on work free holidays

It's time to accept Bernie as your next president /pol/
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>>56635644
>c.ucks actually believe this
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>>56635644

europes experience with socialism has been pretty unpleasant
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You forgot the part where you get ass fucked by jamal and get keked by tyrone while bernie stands there saying black lives matter.
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>>56635644
THIS THREAD IS NOW THE PROPERTY OF #BLACKLIVESMATTER

SANDERS MUST ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING

We Want An Immediate End To Police Brutality And the Murder Of Black, Brown & All Oppressed People

Every 28 hours a black person in the United States is killed by someone employed or protected by the government of the United States.

Other communities are also criminalized, targeted, attacked and brutalized.

We want an immediate end to state sanctioned violence against our communities.

We Want Full Employment For Our People

Every individual has the human right to employment and a living wage.

Inability to access employment and fair pay continues to marginalize our communities, ready us for imprisonment, and deny us of our right to a life with dignity.

We Want Decent Housing Fit for the Shelter of Black People

Our communities have a human right to access quality housing that protects our families and allows for our children to be free from harm.

We Want an End to the School to Prison Pipeline & Quality Education for All

We want an end to policies that criminalize our young people as well as discriminatory discipline practices that bar access to quality education.

Furthermore, we want all children to be able to access free, quality education. Including free or affordable public university.

We Want Freedom from Mass Incarceration and an End to the Prison Industrial Complex

We want an end to the over policing and surveillance of our communities.

This will hasten an end to the criminalization of black and brown people and hyper incarceration everywhere.

Policing in the United States has historically helped to enforce racist laws, policies and norms.

The result is a massive prison industrial complex built on the warehousing of black people.

We call for the cessation of mass incarceration and the eradication of the prison industrial complex all together.

In its place we will address harm and conflict in our communities through community based solutions.
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>>56635644

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PREP THE BULL ALREADY
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>die
>estate tax time
>government takes everything you have
>your family is left with nothing but a funeral bill
>you deserve it for being a communist enabler
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>>56635644
K.. KEEP ME POSTED
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>>56635976

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Bernie is the only credible threat to Trump. Trump's greatest strength is that he's an outsider against the establishment- but Bernie is, too. So Trump's strategy will have to completely shift versus if he runs against Hillary. That's why Trump keeps saying he WANTS to run against Hillary.
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>>56635983

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>>56635857

I was at Westlake when that went down.

Christ they were bitchy cunts.
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>>56635730
>commie jews vs. banking jews
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>>56636064
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How would your wage increase when your company and owner are getting taxed at higher rates, thus losing after tax income?

How will your cost of living cheapen when the wage floor is doubled, and prices are artificially increased due to government borrowing induced demand increases?

How wil your incentives remain the same when your taxes will up the better you do?

Please explain
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>>56635644
> Tax free meal
> socialism

chose one
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>>56636165
Hayek was from German Bohemia, Mises however was of based Jewish descent.
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Sanders would be the best president China ever had.
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>>56636185
I'm a Trump supporter, I'm just saying Trump vs Bernie would be way closer than Trump vs Hillary.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-lifelong-conservatives-who-love-bernie-sanders/417441/
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>>56635983
you're down right fucking retarded. For one your argument is shit because a true 100% socialist society would have funeral bills not cost anything. Two, Bernie only wants to raise the estate tax on the top 1%.
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>wake up and eat tax free and cheap breakfast prepared by my wonderful wife
>tax free
>under Bernie Fucking Sanders
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>>56635644
WHAT DO WE WANT?
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>>56636394
FREE SHIT!
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>>56636343

What about the hundreds of thousands of whites who were forced to be in the army during the civil war via draft?
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>Kike wins presidency
>We are now accepting 100 million refugees!
>If you argue or protest you are sent to an interment camp for bigots because you reminded Bernie of his grandparents who were in Concentration Camps
>The USA becomes the capital of Islam
>All women must wear hijabs or suffer public stonings and executions

>Good ol' Bernie
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>>56635730
Warning: Hayek was still a socialist by the American definition. He thought basic income was morally mandated.
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>>56636342
>calls me retarded
>unironically spouting the "free" maymay
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Ask a based Berniebro anything. Nobody here agrees with Donald Trump as much as I agree with Bernie Sanders.
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I'd be in for Bernie but he isn't winning. If he gets close, we'll talk.
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>>56636593
Yeah, he is not perfect. Yet he is still considered one of the most "right-wing" Nobel winner, which really tells us something how leftist the rest of them are.
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>>56635644
You'd seriously be okay with the janitor making as much money as you do?
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>>56635995
> All of them completely ignore that car and home loans can be dealt with by bankruptcy. If you couldn't get rid of them via bankruptcy interest rates would skyrocket on anyone who isn't on time 100%.
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Why has nobody commented on the amount of shilling Berniedrones do compared to Hillary?
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>>56635644
>socialist America
>having a middle class
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>>56636240
Only the 1% gets taxed. Go eat a waffle.
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>>56636853
Except Bernie doesn't have shills, he can't afford them like Hillary.
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>WHAT DO WE WANT?

FREE SHIT!

>WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

NOW!

>WHAT DO WE WANT?

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>>56635644
>>Middle class family in the Midwest
after taxes you make staggering 10k a year
>>wake up and eat tax free and cheap breakfast prepared by my wonderful wife
prices are the same tho.
>>children look forward to go to school and learn valuable information in the reformed school system
they hold hands singing kumbaya and learns about how slavery was their fault
>>go to work
that hasn't been taken by women or minorities because of affirmative action, illegals because they are cheaper or outsourced to india or korea
>>software engineer
nerd
>>wage has been increased, same as other workers
funded by your own tax money
>>enjoy stress free work
work ethics won't change or you'll definitely be replaced by koreans or indians
>>go home at 3 because the work day has been shortened
same as above
>>car crash
like you can afford a car and all the taxes that follow due to green laws
>>get injured
what you get for driving a tiny nerd car
>>better by tomorrow
bernie won't change anatomy. american healthcare is the best in the world. whatever bernie is planning will end that.
>>only owe hospital a few hours worth of work
after giving all your shit on a yearly basis to fund this shit.
>>enjoy my wonderful life with family on work free holidays
like he wont ban holidays for being violent, racist and/or sexist

this is what keks like him do here.
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>>56635644
Why did america suddenly start sucking corporation dick? I mean sure you can have your conservative values, just stop sucking corporate dick.
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>>56636997
>american healthcare is the best in the world
Are you retarded m8?
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>Middle class family in the Midwest
>wake up and eat, dreading going to work
>children look forward to go to school and learning communist propaganda in the reformed "education" system
>go to work
>software engineer
>wage has been increased, same as other workers, productivity goes down as all those who are smart moved on to being janitors and Walmart greeters, because they now make only 2 dollars less than us
>enjoy stress because I am the last compitant fool at my job
>go home at 3 am because I need the overtime now that taxes are over 50% to pay for all this "free" shit
>car crash
>get injured
>takes them 3 days to treat me, now there is a waiting list because everyone is taking their cut of this "free" healthcare, every idiot who feels a tingle in their elbow rushes to the doctor
>only owe hospital half my paycheck every payday, "free"
>enjoy my wonderful life with family on the few holidays I take off, someone needs to pay for all this "free" shit

It's time to accept Bernie as your next president /pol/
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>>56637005
What's with this buzzword everyone especially redditors throw around? Corporations.

Who is the corporate enemy? Do people understand how businesses work?
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>>56636165
http://www.jinfo.org/Nobels_Economics.html

Friedrich von Hayek (1974) is described as being Jewish in a number of sources, e.g., From Marx to Mises by David Ramsay Steele (Open Court, La Salle, IL, 1992, p. 401). This misidentification is due, in part, to his having been the cousin of Ludwig Wittgenstein (through, as it turns out, Wittgenstein's one non-Jewish grandparent), and his leadership with von Mises (who was Jewish) of the then heavily Jewish Austrian School of economics. In Hayek on Hayek (University of Chicago Press, Chicago, IL, 1994, pp. 61-62), however, Hayek states that none of his ancestors appear to have been Jewish.
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>>56636648
So calling out your shitty socialist hate mongering is "spouting the free maymay" when I in no way was actually supporting it in any way. Jesus Christ you are dumb.
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>>56637245
This. For some reason, a lot of people think because you're a business you make mad profit every year and live in a mansion. That is not the case a lot of the time with small-medium business owners. A lot of them struggle to break even.
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>>56636862
> Not realizing that a true capitalist country has no middle class either and that America's middle class is shrinking.
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>>56637310
>a true 100% socialist society would have funeral bills not cost anything
this is memeing free shit.
kill yourself you reddit shill
>i-im not even a commie, i promise
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Man, as I run out of money for university, a Sanders presidency starts looking more and more like not a bad idea.

What do /pol/? I wouldn't mind a Europe system of university so I don't end up with 40k of crippling debt but I also think in most other regards, Sanders is a retard.
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>>56637429
Which Bernie understands. He only wants to go after the top 0.1% that are fucking everything up.
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>Middle class family in the Midwest
>Wake up and eat dry bread, fetched from the gutter 3 days ago when they handed out food
>children look forward to go to school and learn communist propaganda in the reformed indoctrination system
>Go to work
>Factory worker
>Wages have been abolished to achieve true equality among the workers. Getting a small loaf of bread at the end of the month is an incentive to work hard though
>Pretend to enjoy work when a party member is nearby
>Go home at 3 am because the work day has been lengthened
>Political commissar doesn't like my face
>Get beaten up
>Get accused of being a capitalist saboteur
>Enjoy the rest of my life in the gulag, never seeing my family again
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>>56636996

Learn economics
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>>56637534
Again you prove my point that clearly just pointing out that you don't even understand a socialist system, you attack people and call them socialist commies even though all they did was correct your shitty argument.
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>>56635983
>implying this doesn't already happen with our current capitalist system
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>>56637429
It's much more difficult to falsify financial/accounting records after Enron.

I don't know if people are talking out of their asses about business practices or if they're complaining about corporate interests in Capitol Hill.

There's a reason why most people in the business background don't get involved arguing with Bernie fans.
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>>56637797
Socialists cant even explain what a socialist system is.
They just meme free shit, like youre doing right now.
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>>56635644
>Middle class family in Midwest
>wake up and eat sweet potatoes since that was the only thing in the store
>children put on the best pieces of clothing with the least holes in them
>go to work
>software engineer
>forgot that company moved to India to avoid high taxes
>walk back home
>home at 3 after walking tens of miles
>trip on doorstep
>break leg
>there are no paramedics
>die
>next day
>still dead on my lawn since no one has picked up my body
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>>56636342
And then when that doesn't raise enough money, he'll raise it on the middle class.
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>>56637167
He forgot to add "If you're a multi-millionare"
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>>56636836
3 out of 4 actually talk about it... Are you retarded?
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>>56635644
Here is how it ACTUALLY will be:
>Poor as fuck family in middle of niggersville
>poor because no one in the family has a job, since the only degrees you need from college are feminist studies or religious (Shariah) studies. Everything else is either halal or sexist
>Wake up and pray to Allah/Sarkeesian for mercy for being a white cishet male.
>breakfast made by trashbag-I mean wife is only our ration of bran-flakes and stale milk.
>Children fear school because of Tyrone and his gang.
>Can't speak out or else they'll go to prison for being racist
>Go and try to apply to the most menial of jobs: janitor at the Starbucks on the northwest corner of my street.
>Actually land the job
>Pay is 3,000$, but being a white cishet male means that most of it is taxed, also being a non-muslim takes away what is left.
>Constantly having to clean up blood from beheadings, pancake-people from being trampled by landwhales, and general shit
>Go home, get mugged about 18 times by Abdullah, Tyrone's parents, and other niggers
>Go to hospital
>Get denied for being a white cishet non-muslim male
>Now unable to provide for my family
>Unable to pay taxes
>ISIS comes to my house and behead me and my family for violating Shariah
>Feminists and niggers cheer as my house burns down
>Another victory for the oppressed.
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>>56637654
How are they fucking everything up? Please describe without saying the same tired argument of "corrupt" and "evil" and give an economic basis.
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>>56636240
BREHS
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>>56635730
>Austrian
>thinks other economic views are retarded
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>>56635644
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>>56637167
Multiple world leaders (albeit middle eastern) have come to the Mayo Clinic in MN because it's a world-renowned hospital.

You can get your bill significantly reduced if you have insurance and want to make a single payment. I know it costs money still and a lot of people don't have insurance, but it's not impossible to lower a bill of $15,000 to $1500.
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>>56637593

Yeah, you're fucking dumb. You just hate on Bernie to be part of the /pol/ bandwagon.
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Can someone post the Bernie campaign pic where he's sucking a black dick? Thanks
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>>56637912
I'm sorry, did you ask what a socialist system was? No I believe all you did was making a shitty fucking comment and every single time you actually use the word meme like it helps your argument or make you sound in anyway not like a fucking imbecile. You should consider going back to 5th grade because that's the level of intelligence you portray.
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I know that the US is already in a shit ton of debt, but this faggot old man will drive our country into the ground with his "programs". Yeah sure, they seem nice and all, but the repercussions will leave this country absolutely fucked and send us into a spiraling recession much worse than the one in 2008. I don't know why you retarded ass millennials think this guy is the answer. He definitely is not.
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>>56635644
hahaha, nice meme
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>>56638461
>being this mad because you cant even coherently explain your own point of view
Get off of /pol/
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>>56637214
>>go home at 3 am because I need the overtime now that taxes are over 50% to pay for all this "free" shit
with socialists in charge you aren't allowed to work more than a certain numbers of hours.
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Sorry, I don't want more war. So I can't vote for a warmonger like Sanders
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>>56637996
None of them talk about how bankruptcy affects loan rates. They talking about collateral and defaults but that does not mean they talk about bankruptcy.
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>>56635730

honestly economics are irrelevant

it's all about that cultural victory
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>>56637488
>a true capitalist country has no middle class
>implying capitalism didn't invent the middle class
KEK

>the middle class is shrinking
> let's shrink the economy more
>government will save us
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>>56635644
>Middle class family in the Midwest
>wake up and eat some poptarts bought using the new Sanders-Quick EBT system
>wife divorced me, and I now have to pay 20% of my monthly earnings to he because of the 35th Amendment
>worry about what indoctrination is being taught to my children next- the other day it was 'genderqueer and polygamy acceptance'
>go to work
>sanitorial engineer at local McDonalds
>wage has been artificially increased by the state once again- from $202/hr to $347/hr I know this must be my last day before I get hit by the third mass-layoffs this year and the eventual inflation wave
>Today's dollar would be worth $52 in 2015
>wealthy regional manager scoffs at my work, then whispers in the ear of his crony. He realizes that he could easily replace my job position and save more money with another Robo-Wash; we already have two others, they're my "co-workers"
>go home at 3 because the delusional tyrant of president believes we're living in a time of economic surplus and that we should have shorter days
>car crash
>get injured
>surgery delayed to 9 months from now, because the healthcare service is corrupt, cheap and wants to suck in as many tax dollars as they can
>sit in hospital bed in dying agony
>children taken away by the state because of my injuries and 'inability to provide for them'
>try and repeat to myself the state slogan
>You live in the most well-developed and forward thinking countries in the world.
>Y-you li-live in the most w-well..dev- well-developed and f-forward thiiinking countries-s i-in.. th-th-the w-wo-world-d..
>y-yo-youu ll-li-liiive...
>I see the world that could have been
>My children playing in a field as I and my former wife enjoy a picnic
>Patriotic music was playing, flags and banners on nearby buildings- I think it's the 4th of July
>the darkness rolls over, my vision blurrs as I realized the mistake I made voting for that kek Bernie Sanders
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>>56638327
>hurr you're a retard

ebin arguments senpai
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>>56638649
I did not know that.
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>>56635644
Sounds like you want to live over here. Come enjoy the sunshine brother.
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>>56638581
I am not mad, I am baffled at how retarded you are. The fact that you didn't get this proves my point about you need to go back to middle school, if not farther.
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>>56638293
I imagine the US does have the best health care for the wealthiest people, sure. But as a whole, when compared to other countries, it is a woefully inefficient and ineffective system.
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>>56637488
Contrary to popular belief American's middle class is not shrinking because they're suddenly being paid less or because the ebil corporations and guberment are stealing all their money.

America's middle class is shrinking because the definition of middle class itself is changing. What made you middle class in the 40's and 50's would make you barely above poverty levels now.

Basically, for you retards incapable of logical thinking, this means that living standards have increased to the point that what was middle class before is no longer middle class.
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>>56638831

>Sanders' policy would fix the issue of crippling student debt but it's stupid and he's a retard.
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>>56638820
Breddy guuuuddd :DDDDDDDDD
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>>56638787
Go look up history from the early 1900's ya fucking dipshit. The socialist movement / policies that erupted due to the fucked up shit the businesses were doing back then created the middle class.
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>>56636064

Shillary will crack like an egg against Trump. It will be more satisfying than taking down a senile old man.
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>>56639301
No, it really wouldn't just a bunch of self entitled little fucks that think they need free shit.
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>>56635644
>"We're going to tax the shit out of the 1%!"
>What about when they all leave?
>"We're going to tax the shit out of the new 1%!"
>What about when they all leave?

Repeat until the upper and middle classes are completely destroyed.
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>>56638728

>He votes against one of the most destructive wars that created a domino effect of socio-economic issues.

>Warmonger

Hope you'e just memeing.
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>>56636668

>your 4th and 5th result

That speaks volumes.
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>>56636343
just look at that dandruf
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>>56639301
demand for school goes up, government increases student loan support, college tuition(s) rise.

people who should have gone to trade schools or become nurses suddenly realize they owe $60K for a worthless whatever degree.

this is not the fault of the rest of the country.
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>tax free

stopped reading there.
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>>56639387
Lower costs of goods and rising wages from industrialization created the middle class

Not the handful of anarchists bombing bus stops

The red vote never got more then 1%

Fuck off Eugene Debs, you're drunk
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>>56639768
Honestly what he could do is make trade schools free. We need more people in the trades right now since unis are pumping out more graduates every year, grads who can't find jobs.

How to make trade school free is another story.
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>Middle class family in the Midwest
>Wake up and eat 20% of a bagel that was provided to me from EBT funds. Other 80% was taxed away to less poor
>Children looking forward to their 10th year in college that is all free to them
>go to work
>maintenance person at local McDonald's repairing their automated machines
>make 15 dollars an hour while robots make 300 dollars an hour
>stressed out, none of these machines work right since all designed by STEM woman from free college
>Go home at 3 because I was let go because Jamal just got his 4 year college degree for free and they need diversity
>Car crash
>get injured
>wait 4 weeks for treatment because hospitals are backed up since Alexandra has a tummy ache
>hospital makes me perform medical procedures that I have no idea how to do as payment
>pretty sure I killed a childd
>Enjoy my shitty life with my shitty family and work for free on holidays that no longer exist
>feel the bern
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>>56636593
Basic income is literally 100 times better than our current welfare system. The only problem is that we refuse to hold people responsible for their bad decisions.
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>this guy
Yes, with a command economy all we did was defeat the Nazis and make healthcare free for everyone at the point of use
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>>56635983
That's not how an estate tax works, and they're imposed on the extemely wealthy
>>56636484
>thinking a few years in the army is worse than being a slave your entire life
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Be 38 year old Doctor,

Get told I have to work on people who can't pay, get thrown in gulag for saying that not getting paid for my labor is slavery. Women doctor at my office only works 12 hours a week while I have to work 70. Get thrown in gulag for citing statistics about women in med school and how men should be admitted at a higher rate due to working 8000-20000 more hours over heir career.


Quit job, lose wife, wife gets good benefits for kicking me out of house. I live on street try to find one of the 2 men's shelters in the United States.


Volunteer doctor at homeless shelter, get kicked out for allegedly fat shaming a morbidly obese patient that came in drinking a 2 liter of Coke. Story goes viral online, kids won't talk to me, get thrown in gulag for 3rd time.


Start new practice in new city. Forced to accept people who can't afford to pay if I want Medicaid money. Second day Somali immigrant woman with her interpreter comes in. She makes eye contact with me, interpreter stands up and slaps the shit out of her for looking at a man that isn't her husband. Kick interpreter out, get thrown in gulag for 4th time due to cultural insensitivity.
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>>56638065
This is one of the dumbest things I've read on /pol/. Congratulations.
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>>56636513
>thinking a jew would make usa the capital of islam
>thinking islam is like a country and has a capital
>being this ethnocentric and retarded
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>>56639433

Or you end up stimulating the education of millenials who'd otherwise not receive an education due to the interest rate on student loans.
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>>56640430
No wait THIS is the dumbest thing I've read on /pol/, Jesus Christ.
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>>56636064
>Bernie is an outsider against the establishment
>Been a politician for 30+ years
>Working on increasing federal powers and spending

Nice try
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>>56636996
Investing in jobs and education is a good thing anon
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>>56640190
>Basic income
>With a large non-working nignog population

Please tell me how/why basic income wouldn't just make Laquindriux have 50 kids, and each of those 50 kids have 50 kids, until US becomes a giant ghetto...

UI might work in a homogenous society, but any society with such a large, infinitely reproducing criminal underclass would be national suicide.
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>>56640231
>and they're imposed on the extemely wealthy
for now

>>56639113
>my oversimplifications of everything are okay
>whenever someone else oversimplifies something they are retarded and need to go back to middle school
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>>56640430
>Get told I have to work on people who can't pay
That's not how socialised healthcare works family
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>>56635644
I don't feel like working. What's my future looking like?
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Someone with a youtube account please upload this
>>>/wsg/839953

Would be a huge service to our cause.
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He needs the super delegates. You know the 150 people whose opinion is more important to the Democratic Party than 150,000,000 voters.
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>>56641180
Why would it change?
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>>56639871
> Lower costs of goods and rising wages from industrialization created the middle class
Sure lets ignore unions, 40 hour work week laws, massive strikes with devastating casualties, and plenty more and just say "industrialization did it"
>Not the handful of anarchists bombing bus stops
Anarchists are not socialist just as Muslims are not terrorists ya dipshit.
>The red vote never got more then 1%
Not true, go read some books before you spout bullshit statistics.
>Fuck off Eugene Debs, you're drunk
At least you know who Debs is, sad you don't seem to know anything else.
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>>56635644
Kill yourself.
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>>56637668
That's communism, you dumb dumb. Socialism and communism are different. Kill yourself
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>>56641565
Because expanding government spending will be coupled with tax hikes.
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Someday you losers will realize Bernie is better than my muh meme trump
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>>56635644
You forgot

>30 trillion dollars in debt
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>>56640986
This is the funny part.

The liberal utopia, Scandinavia, is just now coming to realize what a true socialist state means when you have an influx of people instead of a static population for decades. Now they're saying no more immigrants after a mere 190,000 of them.

The US has over 11 million illegal immigrants alone.

>>56641722
I think they're both shit.

But then I think pretty much every candidate is shit and will probably vote independent even if I know it's absolutely hopeless.
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>>56638065
Go back to sucking Roosh's V's throbbing STI filled dick, faggot
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>>56640569
fuck off, senpai.
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He needs to stop calling himself a socialist, he's not a socialist his policies aren't socialist. IT BUGS ME OUT MANG
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>>56639301
It's not his policies on student debt that bother me. It's everything else. I think he's biting off problems that are way too big rather than looking at what causes them in the first place. IE WHY everything is so god damn expensive.

>>56639433
>>56639768
Nigga you are acting like I'm some shit eating liberal arts major who wants a free pass for everything. Eat shit.

I'm a small time aerospace engineering student who moved to one of the best universities in my state for the sole purpose of getting the best education and doing something with myself. I'm not out there with the rest of the people at my liberal shithole screaming about how college is oppressing me because my major is absolutely dogshit "but I liked it at the time and thought I could get a phD with my shit grades and make bank!"

I'm a fuck who had skills and interests in something worthwhile and decided to pursue it before being lured into the Jewish trap.

Do I think that we should just hand free cash to all students? No. So many fucking people drop out of engineering once they realize it's hard. I don't want to pay for these shitstains to drop out. if YOU drop out of college while getting paid, you should be obligated to pay every cent back.

But I think we could be doing so much more to offset this fucking growing cost. It's unreal. I pay a tuition of 14k a year + 600 a monh of rent. Thankfully, I slave my fucking ass off so that I can get financial aid but I don't think I'll have nearly the amount of aid I need to keep out of student debt after this year. Because I switched universities, I might be looking at 3 more years of uni.

I don't believe every cent of my life should be covered, that's fucking stupid shit. But I also don't believe that I should have to spend the prime of my life paying off the price of a fucking house because some greedy jews let tuition clime so fucking high.
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>>56641341
Obamacare isn't socialized healthcare.

And premiums are fucking skyrocketing.
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>BLACK LIVES MATTER

To whom?
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>>56636152
>le hitler maymay
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>>56641596
>mfw it's gotten to the point where I honestly can't tell if this is a socialist or a troll

Unions=/= socialism
>Massive strikes with devastating casualties
What like 4 or 5 people
Oh, you mean those three or four examples across an entire country were more people died?
Truly a war against the lower class

>Anarchists are not socialist just as Muslims are not terrorists ya dipshit
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHA

>Not true, go read some books before you spout bullshit statistics.
>t-t-t-they totally did faggot
>g-g-go read books
How about you post a source that says they did nigger

Which election did they do so well in?
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>>56642172
>But I also don't believe that I should have to spend the prime of my life paying off the price of a fucking house because some greedy jews let tuition clime so fucking high.

This is the problem, people are talking about making it free instead of why it is so expensive.
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>>56635644
>middle class
>tax free

>software engineer
>being able to find a job in an already bloated market when everybody will get a free 4 year degree

>car crash
>single payer system
>not waiting in a 6 month line to get the surgery to re-set your leg so you can walk again
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>>56636828

Nobel Prize committee is a bunch of rejects from the Norwegian socialist party, so...

That's why Obama got a prize for being half-nigger and existing.
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>>56641180
Your oversimplification presented a false idea of socialism. Again, how do you not understand this?

Here I'll make it easy for you.
>Purely Capitalist country
>You lose your job due to cut backs for more profits
>Get cancer and you have no health insurance and no one wants to hire someone with cancer
>Die homeless and broke

I made that real easy for you to pick apart, can you do it?
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>>56642450
>>not waiting in a 6 month line to get the surgery to re-set your leg so you can walk again

I go to Michigan if I want to see a doctor. Its pretty swell.
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Here's how socialism works in europe.
>get taxed out the ass
>have to rent and not buy appartment because taxes are too high, wages are too low
>have no rights
>cant own guns
>healthcare system eats up more and more money for paying the system itself and not treatment
>goverment decides for EVERYONE instead of it's own people
>middle class and lower class become the same
>the super rich stay super rich because they got good lawyers and avoid taxed robbery
>be a wageslave until you die or someone decideds to start a nationalist revolution
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>>56642538
Then you should have worked harder.
See, I didnt get mad about it.
I made a joke, like everyone else on the internet.
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Sanders can be boiled down to the candidate who makes your inner child scream for joy. Vilifying minorities with vast utopian goals is something you'd see come out of a popular teenage novel.
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>>56641596
I have a serious question for you:
Why does Bernie think it's acceptable to tax traders out of existence?
Before you say "HFT's are evil", please remember that no distinction is made for his FTT,it affects individual traders (non-corporate) as well.
Before you say "It won't affect you", I can promise you it will.
And if you think we're just complaining about taxes being raised, then you haven't considered what happens when you base a tax on value instead of profit (that's what his FTT does).
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>>56641700
Instead of tax hikes, we can make cuts to unnecessary spending. Over 50% of our budget is defense spending, some of thst could be put to better use. We can also improve the tax code to get rid of tax loopholes for the rich
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>>56636876
>1% gets taxed
>1% goes to bahamas to retire
>new 1% gets taxed
>repeat
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>>56636668

Rate my politics faggot.
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>>56642895
It's only over half of discretionary spending which is only like 30%
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How's life in Denmark?

Why does it work for them
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>>56643134
They have a population lower than the Los Angeles
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>>56643134
Imagine the population of Mississippi under Denmark's system.
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>>56635730
That's a textbook example of No True Scotsman. Also Sanders is between social democrat and democratic socialist. He's not a Soviet socialist.
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>>56636343
Once the US apologizes and agrees to rightfully pay reparations to any living African-American on or after that date then we can begin the racial healing that the nation needs.
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>>56636294
China is hardline capitalist.
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>>56636834
Bernie hasn't promised to level everyone's income.
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>>56642340
>Unions=/= socialism
You do realize unions are socialist in nature right? Its people working together to get better wages / rights / etc against their capitalistic company.

>Oh, you mean those three or four examples across an entire country were more people died?
>Truly a war against the lower class
Did you just try and justify companies killing 30-40 people for striking and acting like the country would just roll over and go "eh they deserved it for striking" The company owners (like the Ludlow Massacre) got HUGE backlash.

>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Again I reiterate that associating radicals with the base idea/movement is dumb as shit. There is a reason they are called radicals.

Lastly I am not the one who stated a bullshit statistic, the burden of proof is not on me.
>God is real
>No he isn't
>WELL YOU CANT PROVE IT SO I'M RIGHT.
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>>56637668
Top tier strawman
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>Bernie
>tax-free

good to see his voting base has brushed up on his policy
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>>56635644
>tfw middle class man in the Midwest and work as a software engineer
Wew, if I had given in to the vaginal Jew I'd think you were talking about me, OP.

Except I'm also not a commie and realize none of that is what barney wants.
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>>56635644
>>56635644

>Be a Democrat
>Support Education Reform

Pick one. The teachers union is the largest contributor to Liberal politicians in the country. They are also the single biggest roadblock for Education Reform because they don't want bad teachers to be fired. More teachers= More dues.

Education literally sucks because of democrats. When Republicans "cut education funding" they are trying to harm the unions, not the teachers and students.

Daft fucking idiot.
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>>56636834
Why can't you people fucking move on from placing money on a pedestal already?
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>>56643980
90% of this thread is trolling and memes. Kinda sad really.
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>>56635644
low quality bait OP
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>>56635644
this wasn't even funny or a half decent prediction.

Berniefags confirmed autismbux eating hot pockets in moms basement
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>>56642208
Didn't realise you were talking about Obamacare mate, yeah Obamacare is a piece of shit
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>>56635644
>Bernie Sanders Presidency
>Low Income family in inner city Detroit
>Never went to college because I couldn't afford 4 years of not having an income even though Bernie made it free
>have to compete with the influx of new college grads
>don't get hired for anything above the minimum wage level
>attempt to look for a minimum wage job
>local businesses have gone out of business due to the increased taxes and costs
>large corporations won't hire me because I don't have a degree, even for entry level positions like bag boy at Safeway
>go on welfare and food stamps
>never able to get off welfare because I need to support my family
>get shot
>wait in hospital ward with dozens of other gunshot wound victims
>bleeding out nearly dead
>finally get treatment but its hastily done and recovery takes weeks
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>>56641596
>Unions created the 40 our work week

Topkek

please educate yourself by reading here (http://fee.org/anythingpeaceful/thank-capitalism-for-the-weekend/)

and watch this for the TLDR (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxDAUBxheDo)
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>>56643107
See? Even you don't fully support him 100%

Pathetic.
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>>56642172
Jews raised health care and tuition costs? Not federal involvement? Nobody would get life saving care without insurance if the hospital weren't reembursed the expence. The cost wouldn't be crazy if there weren't miles of red tape around medical patents that expire and encourage massive short term profit strategies. The more government shoves it's dick into something the more fucked it gets. I can't understand why people think there's any argument over that. The argument should be about what is big enough to put up with government involvement.
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>>56637912
There are different types of socialism. In some, the means of production (factories, workplaces, machines, tools, etc) are owned by the workers collectively and profit is split among them fairly. Goods and services are produced according to worker councils or in many cases the laws of good ol supply and demand. The government also takes a substantial sum of money and uses it to provide widespread social security, education, healthcare, and infrastructure. That's my lay man's understanding of the socialist economic model used in Yugoslavia from 1948ish to the 1980s.
Bernie is more moderate. Under his plan, production would be privately owned and workplaces would still have a hierarchy, but unions would have more power to bargain and workers would be guaranteed a certain basic income and a certain amount of paid parental leave and sick days. The majority of profits would still probably go to the upper tier of management, but taxes on the highest income bracket would be higher, and the tax burden would fall on the richest rather than the middling or poorest citizens. Drug prohibition would be ended, and mandatory minimums would probably be removed, among other justice reforms. Military spending would decrease, and tax revenue and savings from cuts would go to improving infrastructure, establishing healthcare for all citizens, and ensuring other high living standards for all citizens.
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>>56637961
if*
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>>56638649
Depends
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>>56638820
Tip top meme
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>>56639454
Where would they all go? It's not that easy. Try uprooting everything you know and own and relocating to Ching Kong Wan Senpai land.
Also the U.S. is a huge market even with a higher tax rate.
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>>56640986
Nice meme logic. Real life isn't that simple. The low employment among blacks is due to the breakup of the family, drug culture, the prison industrial complex, and other processes of urban decay. Not some convenient aspect of racial biology.
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/pol/ is probably one of the worst places to try to shill for an old socialist Jew. Why do you even bother?
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>wake up
>remember it's 2017
>look out window
>blacks still celebrating for the 569th day after Bernie was elected
>on day 413, they executed the white people who stood next to them
>they called them "garbage allies"
>Bernie has stopped doing public speakings, instead choosing to broadcast his propaganda
>turn on tv
>"Slavery was the worst thing to happen to the world"
>it is now 6pm
>I haven't left the house because of niggers in over 3 months
>a groups of boons start yelling outside my door
>this is it
>aim my illegal remington 1100, outlawed a year ago to anyone white
>hear a commotion at the door
>"naw nigga, prolly just some ole' ass lady in dis bitch"
>they leave
>go on reddit, one of the last legal websites where opinions are allowed
>tell about how niggers almost broke in today
>mods make me write a 500 page essay about why Racism is wrong

>thank god bernie was elected
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>>56642340
You're retarded.
Management resorted to some pretty nasty methods to try and eliminate unions. Hundreds of people in total died from such conflicts over the span of decades. One such conflict involved troops of hundreds or even thousands of workers. People in some areas went missing in the middle of the night, and some were just shot in their homes.
Don't pretend that's defensible.
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>>56643067
Good luck securing a spot in such a small chain of obscenely expensive islands.
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