Apparently this is worth committing a war-crime for, according to Turkey.
>>56623037
That's the real border btw. Turkey has decided to move their airspace five miles into Syria
Based Turks
Fuck PIDF lol. Even if Russia didn't deserve it it's too funny
>>56623221
Playing right into Obama's nigger paws, goyim
>>56623037
oh wow famly turkie is next to syria shesh u learn somthin new every day huh haha
What was the jet even doing? It is not even flying around ISIS held territory.
My 14K portfolio shot up 20% just today
They laughed when I bought bottomed out construction/materials and oil stock just two weeks before WW3
WELL WHO'S LAUGHING NOW
AHAHAHAHAHA
>>56623550
Killing FSA, who are holed up in the north.
>>56623708
Why would they do that when they are fighting ISIS. Does Russia support ISIS?
>>56623851
Shut up you bellend
>>56623169
>>56623851
ISIS and FSA are two sides of the same coin, their fighters swap sides often. Most ISIS fighters are former FSA fighters from earlier in the war.
>>56623851
As you can see from AA gunning people in parachutes, there is no difference between FSA and ISIS.
There never has been.
There are islamic armies and the secular Syrian Arab Army, and those who support them, like Russia.
There are no moderate rebels.
AA gunning people in parachutes is a war crime of greater magnitude than a 1.7 mile airspace incursion any day of the week.
>>56623037
RT reporting on anything not russia = based
RT reporting on anything relating to russia = biased to the max
>>56623851
Contrary to what you will read on CNN, the FSA is/was/became ISIS, they're all the same sand niggers with the same goal, to control Syria in a tribe-like fashion, and to do that, Al Assad has to go.
All this does is confirm the legitimacy and intent of Al Assad's fight for his country and his people.
So fuck the FSA, fuck ISIS, fuck al Nusra, FUCK the White House nigger faggot fucking Obongo for directly supporting, funding and training terrorists.
>>56624008
Am I spoiling Russias secret?
>>56624218
>>56624196
>>56624181
This is a pretty bro-fist simultaneous response, bee tee dubs
Airspace is airspace......
This just in:
>All bombers are going to be accompanied by fighter jets at all times now
>Ship with AA will be stationed near Lattakia
>Every target that is considered a potential threat will be destroyed
>>56624335
>Turkey claims to be fighting ISIS
>Russia is fighting ISIS
>Turkey shoots down Russian jet anyway and kills the pilots just because
Yeah, totally justified. That would be like the French shooting down British aircraft in WWII because they flew over a tiny corner of France.
17 seconds is short enough that Turkey likely planned this ahead of time.
Did Washington put them up to it?
>>56624181
>>56624196
>>56624218
So why do they fight each other if they are the same group?
>>56623851
Putin doesn't give a fuck about ISIS. It's only about wiping out the FSA and securing Assad's regime.
>>56624529
>>56624529
> Fighter gets
> bcause g2a missiles
Sober up, Ivan
>>56624726
Mudshits fight and kill each other all the time, it's just what they do
>>56623114
Looks shit.
>Wearing suits and helmets
>Original they had the balls to drop without a single fuck given in sleeveless Hawaiian shirts
>From masculine as fuck to pussified fcuks
>>56624529
Я люблю тo, чтo вы дeлaeтe
Удaчи
>>56624577
>Did Washington put them up to it?
The answer is so transparently 'yes' it is hardly worth it but:
>Yes.
would this be some sort of automated system that shot this down with missles?
>>56624573
Why would an allied nation that has given permission to its allies to fly over its airspace then shot down their aircraft?
>>56624577
That's what I want to know
Turkey is incompetent as FUCK
how would they know to shop them perfectly in a 15 second window?
>>56624726
Fighting for control over the country. They're both radical Muslim groups and they both want control, neither are "moderate" and at the moment they both want Assad gone. Helping either of them is helping radical Islamists gain a massive foothold in the Middle East.
Alpha Turkey put beta Russia in it's place.
No incursions no exceptions. How is this so hard for /pol/ to understand?
>>56623851
FSA hasn't been a significant, let alone existent player in the civil war since 2013. Western media, constantly implies that there are still friendlies on the ground in Syria, a supportable resistance. This isn't true. 90% of those fighting Assad are part of Salafist Islamist factions like ISIS, fighting for no other reason than Jihad.
>>56624961
Гyгл пoмoг или ты caм этo нaпиcaл?
NATO guidebook says that if an aicraft is either
1) flying trough a very small chunk of territorry
2) en route to exist the airspace
3) not having the pilot on visual
then it's not right to shoot down the aircraft.
NATO in its treaty assumes that in this case the nation that shoot down the aircraft invading the country's airspace is making an act of war so if another country declares war on it then article 5 can't be invoked.
in short, turkey disrespected a lot of nato proceedures and if putin declares war on turkey then turkey can't invoke article 5.
>>56624855
>f-16
>g2a
Ahmed, drinking is haram.
>>56625091
No it's more like the kid turkey threw a small little punch at the big kid russia who will meet him at the playground at the back of the school at 3 pm.
>>56625309
NOTHING
IS
GOING
TO
HAPPEN
HOLY
FUCK
YOU
PEOPLE
ARE
SO
RETARDED
THIS
SHIT
HAPPENS
SOMEWHERE
EVERY 6
MONTHS
>>56625057
Assad is also radical and not 'moderate' as well. Simply apply labels isn't an argument for getting rid of something. Saudi Arabia is clearly radical and not 'moderate' but at least it is contained. Problem with ISIS over other Islamist regimes is they reject the idea of borders and consider themselves to be a global caliphate and will not stop until it takes the world. Attacking any radical Muslims that oppose them that are happy to be monster in their own region, just like Assad, is better then doing anything that helps something like ISIS.
>>56625664
calm down, i merely pointed out some nato proceedures and why turkey cant invoke article 5 in case russia goes apeshit.
i never said Russia WILL go apeshit
As someone who loves EU4, I cannot wait to see Kebab being removed for real.
>>56625845
THEN WHY EVEN BRING IT UP. you may as well have proposed russia starting a new circus in china or something just as likely to never happen
>>56625158
Support the YPG, the only hope
>>56625845
> m-muh procedures
Jobsworths pls go
>>56625751
In what was is Assad "radical"? He runs a secular government, doesn't enforce sharia, there was a sizable Christian population in Syria that lived relatively well, the only remotely "radical" thing about him is that he is fighting to hold on to power in his own country, which I seriously don't blame him for.
Is it because he is a dictator? Is that his only crime? Being a dictator in a sea of dictators?
>>56626449
>? He runs a secular government,
Love this meme. He has routinely given his own sect, the Alawites, special treatment and discriminated against sunnis.
>>56625158
The western media usually just refer to the Kurds but it isn't surprising that the FSA would be struggling since it is has been attacked from two fronts and this has just helped ISIS more than anyone.
>>56623114
>>56623221
>>56623507
>>56623550
>>56623664
>>56623851
>>56624335
>>56624731
>>56625019
>>56626109
Chinese-Russian Circus sounds pretty dope to be honest, monica.
>>56623037
I hope Putin sends cruise missiles right into Turkey.
>>56623037
shooting down a military aircraft that is in your airspace illegally is not a war crime.
Considering how often in the last 2 years the Russians have used their jets and bombers to fly way too fucking close to the sovereign airspace of other nations, i say it's about fucking time.
>>56627192
shooting at pilots parachuting from the plane however is.
>>56623037
>war crime
>>56626449
You completely missed the point of the argument. I said simply slapping labels on shit helps nothing just as you clearly demonstrate as you argue against a label being slapped on something.
>>56627435
ok. that one i'll grant you.
>>56626855
All the big bad Jew enemies support Assad. Hezbollah, Iran, etc.
>>56625019
it was an f-16 (based jet btw) of the turkish air force.
so basically he engaged in retalliation to the russian jet crossing airspace for 5 seconds.
what should have been solved in turkey sanctioning russia which would be the right thing to to they go full retard on this one.
I don't know what erdogan is thinking. The membership in NATO doesn't give him a get out of jail free card.
>>56627435
But it wasn't the Turks that did that it was the FSA
Shooting down a plane following violation of airspace isn't a war-crime.
>>56628384
No, but shooting the pilots after they ejected from the plane is.
>This just in on RT.com, Russian officials confirm that Russian forces are definitely fighting ISIS, totally not just bombing rebels with Assad.
>>56628793
Turkish soldiers shot the pilots?
News to me.
>>56628289
Except this has been going on for ages. I remember hearing Turkey right when Russian started bombing giving repeat warnings telling Russia to stay out of its airspace. Seems they finally had enough
>>56628289
Sad day when Turkey is the only one willing to stand up to Russia and show strength, sanctions don't do shit except show the unwillingness to react
>>56623037
Turkish airspace probably got penetrated by 4 cm. Since 4 cm is the size of the average AKP dick, this counts as rape.
>>56629006
Sanctions do have an effect they just end up effecting the people more than who you really want to hurt and Russia has been able to spin the blame onto the west anyway.
>>56625091
>Alpha Georgia put Russia in its place
>Alpha Ukraine put Russia in its place
>Alpha Isis put Russia in its place
>Alpha Turkey put Russia in its place
Gonna get bingo in a year or so at this rate.
>>56626734
Sunnis must be crushed if others shall live in peace.
>>56626734
>he discriminated against the most radical and violent population!
I hate retards on this board that actually defend US-Kike policies.
Get FUCKED pootin
>>56628877
Underrated post, lad, top shelf
Them dubs too damn son
Correct my table
>>56623037
> cu/ckanada sayingthings about border issues with its sieve borders w/ US
>>56631786
Hezbollah support Syrian Government and so does North Korean. Got to protect that North Korea park in Syria.
>>56623037
what really makes me feel ill is that there are no good actors.
- the US is invested in destabilizing the region in order to remove Assad... in order to install a puppet regime so that they can block Iranian pipeline projects thru syria and can greenlight qatari pipeline projects... all in an attempt to keep the eurozone (especially germany) from establishing closer economic ties with russia.
- Assad fucked up with the 'modernization' of syria... tried to push liberal and capitalist reforms too hard and caused too much internal strife (especially when trying to repress anti-government protesters and political enemies). His heavy push for westernization of syria (and likely CIA destabilization ops) caused the civil war... and the opposition won't quit until they're all dead or bashar steps down.
- Turkey (while on its way towards a theocratic state as part of the IS caliphate) is trying to take advantage of the situation by keeping ISIS operating in kurdish areas. (Does turkey claim any syrian border areas? What, other than killing kurds and following US instruction, does Turkey get from this?)
- Arab countries are happy to sit back and keep funding whoever needs it.
- Iran appears to be the most out-of-the-loop here... even tho it funds hezbollah (and likely more groups)... and even tho this war is all about them and russia.
- France, germany, and the rest of the kekzone countries are, at this point, flailing about... not understanding that the US is their worst enemy.
- Russia... gangster state fighting for survival. They MUST prevent qatari oil and natural gas from pipelining into EU. If they lose here they are lost as a power.
- China. Will china be the one to provide moral leadership?! Is this china's chance to become the leading superpower?
nukes when?
>>56624196
how long will americans allow their money to go to ISIS/FSA?
>>56631786
k
asd testing asd
>>56634544
Added Hezbollah (& nice dubs btw)
>>56637058
Thanks for the input, implemented some of your changes (but not all)
Russian reports are lies. Just this morning they were trying to say it was shot down by a ground to air missile, to evade the fact that it was warned 10 times to leave.
>>56637058
oy gevalt
>>56628877
>>56630911
>implying "rebels" aren't the Margarine of Butter
>Russia never violated!!! Dirty turkish lies!!!
>IT WAS JUST A PRANK BRO, RUSSIANS WERE THERE JUST FOR 5 MINUTES
stay kek
>>56626855
based Italy pointing out all the kikes
>>56641236
So what does it really mean?
>>56638428
This is close to the truth.
That Iran-Iraq-USA triangle is awkward as fuck for Obama.
