Literally what's wrong with shooting jets that invade your airspace?
Nothing, shooting the parachuting pilots tho
>>56612417
why shoot the plane down?
>>56612565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8LVlYJ5eJU
>>56612417
Well when you know they are not attacking you and instead performing missing near your airspace it is in fact retarded.
Turks acted children.
>>56612942
>Well when you know they are not attacking you and instead performing missing near your airspace it is in fact retarded.
Kek. You're not supposed to violete another country's airspace. Simple as that.
Just because they didn't attack us doesn't mean shit.
>>56612942
the turks are children. russia hopefully will blow them the fuck out during WWIII.
Well , We did this once too
to an American RQ-170 pilot-less spy plane
NOT to a jet that is going to bomb ISIS
you feeling the diffrence yet ?
>>56613043
doesn't mean you shoot the plane down like a nigger.
>>56612417
I hope they wipe you useless, horrible twats off the earth
>>56613043
You mother fuckers simply want to act all bad ass and shit, I hope that Russia gives you exactly what you are asking for.
Fuck your shit nation and shit people.
>russia violates america airspace
>gets escorted out
>russia violates european countries airspace
>gets escourted out
>russia invaded turkish airspace for a few seconds
>gets shot down
You're third world tier
Russia was not being aggressive. There was no reason to attack.
>>56613223
Exactly, it is nigger behavior.
>>56613043
>turk complains about airspace violation
whenever one of you brown bastards gets near me, everything starts to smell like shit. respect my airspace.
I think the t*rks are just salty because Russia is carrying out strikes against ISIS in Syria.
Turkey's tight-knit relationship with ISIS is undeniable.
>>56612417
Nothing, except when they aren't in your airspace, you give basically no warning and you snipe the pilots as they parachute down. REMOVE KEBAB
>>56613313
>You're third world tier
Turk fucks read this 10000 times because it is true and you have shown it to be true.
>>56613115
The American RQ-170 had a malfunction. It then crashed and was dragged to Iran. Your country then embarrassingly said they reverse engineered the plane within 2 weeks and every engineer came out and said you were lying. All you guys did was figure out how to make the wings move a little bit and that was it. A engineer/professor at MIT said it would take him over 5 years to reverse-engineer the plane with everything MIT has.
Your country is an embarrassment.
RUSSIA DINDU NUFFIN. THEY A GUD BOY. WE NEED MO' MONEY FOR DEM POGROMS.
>>56613327
A muslim fuck nation supporting muslim fucks, what a surprise.
>>56612417
you invade out airspace everyday
>>56612942
Ok so what if Russia flew over or super close to us?
I'm not fully aware informed on what happened but this is just what I think.
I love rushaboo, but damnit they're not on that good of terms with us.
>>56613313
They didn't even invade the airspace, they were performing in Syria, near the turk airspace. Huge difference. Turkey is terrorist state that has funded, aided and abetted terrorist groups for years now. Wipe these fucks off the map.
>>56612417
For how long? 17 seconds? During anti-terrorist mission? Srsly, go fuck yourself.
>>56612417
As an American, I think we have every right to shoot down any plane flying in Mexico.
I'm with you.
>>56613313
>>56613386
And not the cool 3rd world, pretty sure Brozil and Whitegentina would escort them out too.
>>56613043
Even though they were in your airspace and they ignored warnings, you should realize that the risks outweigh the rewards.
>Let Russia fly through air space
>Turn a blind eye
>Everything is fine
>Don't let Russia fly through your air space
>Shoot them down
>Russia puts sanctions on Turkey, decides maybe it's time to invade
>>56613223
actually, it does. russians have been intruding upon air space for years. they got btfo by some Turk-backed ISIS cunts on the border.
>>56613512
Then you know what to do.
>ITT:
>RUSSIA DINDUN NUFFINS
>HE WAS A GOOD BOI
>EVIL TURKS KEEPIN THE RUS MAN DOWN
Hahahahahah
>>56613598
Russian planes have been flying close to British airspace recently, each and every time they are escorted out of it. No country shoots down a plane without warning like this to a friend, make no mistake, this an act of war by Turkey, they have basically said with this, we are openly joining isis.
>>56613598
When you overflew deep into their airspace they had the decency to not kill the pilot on his way down.
>>56613598
>Ok so what if Russia flew over or super close to us?
It happens now and again, we send escorts to see them out, never do we shoot first like niggers.
>>56613512
Then shoot them down. It's your right to do so breh. If we do invade your airspace and you shoot us down, I'll support your decision.
>>56613796
Russia did do something wrong, but whether or not there should have been retaliation for violating air space is another issue. It's a really, really stupid thing to do.
>>56613313
There need be no further comment
>>56613731
any other civilized nation would have escorted them out. turkey is the ones who are the dindus.
>>56612417
LOL all these turks in full damage control.
>russian plane spends 17 seconds (officially confirmed) in tukish airspace
>turkis interceptor shoots down russian jet AFTER he left said airspace and was already 4kms in syria.
>turkish troops enter syria to execute the pilot as he's landing with a parachute
Seems legit, right?
>>56613796
This would be a valid arguement if Turkey had given them more than a few seconds warning. Go fuck a pig mehmet
>>56613813
This. They do it here in Canada and by the US too, and all that happens is they get escorted out.
>>56612417
Nothing, unless you're a mudskin who has never seen a bear in their deserts and on first confrontation kicks him in the ass and thinks he's some sort of bear trainer afterwards. Nice knowing ya, would like to see this attitude from your countrymen once the bombs fall.
>>56613975
It is really obvious that Turkey was just itching for any lame excuse.
>>56613043
How about you stop getting in the way of everyone's kebab removal efforts and proving to the whole world you're ISIS sympathising savages?
It doesn't even matter that you manufactured the scenario to put yourselves in the right to shoot Russians. We all know you wanted to.
>>56613986
Fuck you inbred piece of shit, we warned them many times before. Not just today but this is the countless time they violated our airspace.
Now they'll think twice before doing the same thing.
>>56614001
It's not like a videogame, There's no big line saying where borders start, how the fuck is anyone supposed to know when they're in the air at like 500 MPH?
>>56613975
The whole situation is pretty fucked up.
>>56613731
This. Russia has routinely violated Estonia, Finnish, Latvian, Lithuanian, Swedish, Norwegian, British, Danish, American, Georgian, and Turkish air space and maritime exclusion zones for years now.
The world's longest game of "I'm not touching you!" has come to an end, and Russia's butthurt that being a massive faggot to their neighbors has blown up in their face. Sucks to suck, guys.
>>56613663
Do we even have something which files to escort them out?
Turkey is fucked.
You guys just sparked the next world war.
>>56614123
>They'll think twice
Maybe every time they see a Turkish F-16 in Syria now they'll just decide to shoot it down.
>>56613512
tfw diaspora from dodecanese
i'm coming home when it's time to kill kebab
>>56614123
Go fuck a pig, Turkey is just waving it's pathetic arab microdick around, if Russia wanted to start shit with you you'd already be glass you retarded street shitter.
>>56614123
>Now they'll invade us and turn us into a Russian state before doing the same thing again.
FTFY
>>56613896
Our AFs intercepting each other for a good half of a century. I bet pilots can even recognise each other already lol.
But these dirty Turk bitches simlpy can't understand that airspace is wide and you can lose a track especially when you are perfoming combat mission over a hostile territory. It's cleasrly understandable. For everyone, but kebabs.
>>56612417
Everybody does it.
You just can't handle the banter, so nobody likes you.
>>56614123
>Now they'll think twice before doing the same thing.
Pretty sure that's not what Putin is thinking about this evening. He's probably lustily stroking his Cheget while looking at a map of Turkey.
>>56614123
keep justifying it all you want. it was an act of war, russia was only in the airspace for 15 seconds.
>>56614123
Or they'll just send a shitload of weapon to the Kurds to fuck you.
>>56614131
I should have implied that only if they get caught in air space, they get escorted out. I'm sure they willingly do it all the time and never get caught.
>>56614249
>rhodes
Oh hey, another Turk.
>>56612417
I hope you get nuked.
You are all fucking niggers. Even /pol won't forget your cuntish attitude.
You will not make EU your home. Your application for membership is out of the fucking window.
You are pests, nothing more. Niggers, who can't integrate. Doesn't matter where you go.
It's the African genes inside you.
>>56612417
I'll lput you on a jet that invades my airspace and shoot you down fucking mongol
>>56614149
Russia is going to invade as retaliation, or doing something unofficial and shady to Turkey. Don't poke a bear unless you want your head chewed off.
>>56614123
Can you imagene the shitstorm that would follow if a country shot down an American fighter jet for violating their airspace for a few seconds?
Russian and US jets invade our airspace all the time. Do you guys think we should shoot them down?
>>56613619
OH SHIT RUSSIA VS TURKEY ON /POL/ AIJDFLAIJDLFGIAJDFL
>>56614337
You act like it's a mistake on Turkey's behalf, it isn't. They had their finger on the button just waiting till the jet entered an inch into turk airspace when they could blow it up to help their friends isis.
>>56614398
I wasn't disagreeing, merely adding to the point.
>>56614463
Isreal did that. More than once even.
>>56614538
Israel*
>>56613975
>>russian plane spends 17 seconds (officially confirmed) in tukish airspace
and that's all that matters
russia violated the airspace and got slapped for doing it
also isn't the first time russia violated the airspace, guess the turks got tired of it and did something about it
>Implying Turkey isnt secretly supporting ISIS in order to use them as attack dogs on the Kurds
>>56614463
> Israel
Whatevs dude.
>>56614538
Israel doesn't count because they can do nothing wrong and it was totally an accident and the American's fault and the Holocaust.
>>56614501
Fuck off kek,. go pregnant a Somalian woman.
>>56613313
You need one .
>>56614123
I dont think they are all that bothered about pestering your airspace again might make it easier to go to syria vis turkish airspace once they flatten turkey.
Since this is an aggression from Tahkey to Russia, and NATO might not even bother, can Kebab resist an invasion?
Russian entry into Turkish airspace lasted 'seconds': U.S. official
so why is turkey being north korea lately? as if supporting ISIS was not enough
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-entry-turkish-airspace-lasted-seconds-u-official-164618732.html
Turkey is literally a third world shithole.
Remove the fucking kebab. Say goodbye to EU, you dirty turksmells.
>>56614658
a centipede?
>>56614658
Wrong anatomical structure, Turkey.
RADAR DATA INCOMING
TURKEY CLAIMS JET WAS IN THEIR AIRSPACE FOR OVER TWO MINUTES
DATA SHOWS THAT AT MINIMUM SPEEDS JET COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN IN THE AIRSPACE FOR 9 SECONDS
https://twitter.com/DrPartizan_/status/669114412561793024
>>56614658
Yeah. Soon you will know what it feels like to have it broken. Best of luck.
>>56613313
You're a c.kek turks are not.
>>56613313
I don't think it was even their airspace. It was the airspace of a basically illegal border expansion.
>>56614752
lol'd
Nothing, just like I would shoot a nigger in my home, a country has an obligation to shoot down warplanes in their airspace even after multiple warnings not to.
>>56614658
You need to be fucked in the ass deeply for arming ISIS, you subhumans
>>56614681
>invasion
>2015
turkey is no kek eu
you violate our space you get fucked up
deal with it
>>56614658
I repeat, Turkey, you do NOT poke the Russian bear and expect to come out alive. They were there for a few seconds, maybe didn't know, got zero warnings and then BAM out of the sky because you're a xenophobic terrorist sympathisizing state.
Don't fuck with Russians. They have a history of destroying things they don't like.
>>56612417
It's wrong since Turkgays murdered pilot after ejecting, fuck turkgays! FREE KURDISTAN FREE CONSTANTINOPLE FREE CYPRUS
>>56614612
Russians planes spend was more time in US air space over the pacific, and guess what? They get escorted out, not executed on the spot by subhumans.
>>56614437
I hope so my greek friend the turks think they are at the top table and deserve the respect of the other nations but how can they when they do shit like this .
>>56614461
Russia has routinely done shit like this to foreign powers. They have learned they can get away with violated other countries' sovereignty just because they will let Putin get away with it rather than stand up for themselves and risk a fight.
I don't give a shit if they decide to invade Turkey, their army would get decimated in a drawn-out war, especially because they're going through their rainy day fund already to fund Ukrainian rebels and propping up the Syrian government. Their economy is shit, they won't do anything.
Even if Turkey was in the wrong, and it was only in their airspace for a few seconds, it sucks to fucking suck. They do this shit all the time, Turkey just decided enough was enough.
>>56614910
>Turk women.jpg
>>56614953
that would be because america is civilized, not a bunch of terrorist supporting niggers. I hope russia fucks turkey hard.
>>56614521
Well, it's hard for me to understand that RuAF's bombings of IS oil fuel storages could become Erdogan's problem. Seriously? The idea of buying cheap oils stands higher for him than the offortunity of cutting of IS energy system? And it is European contry, NATO meber? Can't believe it. But fuck I hope NATO won't stand for Turkey if it's true.
>>56612417
I support you, Turkbro.
It is pure kekoldry to allow Russia to pretend to be big and bad without consequence.
Also, since you're a NATO member Putin knows he can't do jack shit about it. Well played, Mehmed.
>>56614893
If by violation you mean they were in it for seconds before they got blown out of the sky...yes. Not accounting for pilot error, not accounting for mistakes...nope. Just shoot first, enjoy the invasion later.
Russia isn't France, you know.
>>56614754
>it was in our airspace 10 times
>for a total of 9 seconds
the map they showed contradicts there own statements
>>56613975
>"turkish troops enter syria to execute the pilot as he's landing with a parachute"
>"plane is 4kms in syria"
>somehow turkish troops cought up with the pilot and executed him while he's still up in the air
ok then.
also it was local rebel groups.
>>56613043
You constantly invade Greeces airspace
>>56614612
>HURRDUR WE BOMB U NOW :D :D
Americans everyone. Russia is a much more important player in this than the fucking Ottoman horde. Mehmeds should accept their place and not hide behind NATO to clean up their stupid fucking mess.
Your a fucking idiot op. Have fun legging it alone against the russians.
>>56613313
>nigger violates american women
>gets escorted out
>nigger violates european women airspace
>gets escourted out
>Nigger stares at a turkish woman
>gets shot
>>56612417
So you are ok with the Syrians downing a T*rk jet few years back that invaded their airspace?
>>56615138
>Russia isn't France, you know.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Just what in the FUCK is pussy ass Russia gonna do?
Turkey is in fucking NATO. N A T O.
There is absolutely nothing Russia can do other than bitch and whine like the dumb faggots they are.
>>56614953
This, what is escorting.
>In another countries airspace
>Native Jets come up "Follow us and GTFO or we shoot"
>They leave
Then again can turkey even afford a jet?
>>56615192
It's more like someone accidentally bumping into you on the train, so you blow their fucking head off.
>>56615155
>"Its alright, we didn't fire the gun that killed them, we only downed their plane and left them for dead in enemy territory."
>"We euros now? :D :D"
>>56613043
>turkey
>a country
>>56615004
I'm aware but fucking with Russians and risking a war is just not an option for countries that have intelligent leaders that don't need to prove themselves every step of the way. There's a reason America had a Cold War with them for all those years, and just fought them indirectly in different areas around the world. They're not stupid.
>>56614893
Yeah.
Since you are stuck in the middle ages, let me explain it this way.
Image that your neighbour is a farmer and you are mentally challenged and produce nothing of value.
Imagine that he provides you with half of the food you need to survive.
Imagine your farmer friend is fighting a bully on the other side of your property.
Imagine that in this fight he steps on your land.
Middleages reaction: Kill the mother fucker.
Your farmer friend in this case provide you with gas, which you need for heating and cooking food.
Yeah. You "fucked him up".
Now, count to potato.
I pretty sure NATO countries invade Russian airspace all the time, since '60s. It's like a game for them.
Fucking kebabs should be nuked.
>>56615327
Agreed. Literally nothing will happen.
>>56615327
I might be wrong, but doesn't NATO only activate on defense of a member, when this time Turkey is clearly the offenser?
>>56615155
>it's impossible turkish troops who knew where the plane was could finish off the pilots
>must have been random rebels who just happened to be there
:^)
>>56615097
Sorry for my mistakes lol. Can't get used to English keyboard.
>>56615327
War. They've done it before and they can do it again.
>>56614953
>>56615185
>someone breaks into your house
oh its fine, let him go
he was only there for 15 seconds
>>56613975
>that flight path
was the pilot drunk or something?
>>56615327
You think NATO will back Turkey up on this?
Turkey has just fucked its relationship with the rest of the civilised world and will be fucked over a barrel by NATO. Personally I'd kick them out for what is ostensibly an aggressive act that threatens NATO unjustifiably.
>>56615155
You don't need to be standing under the parachute to shoot at the guy, and 4km is not a long distance when you're shooting at something mid air.
>>56615486
fuck off russia was warned multiple times since they started to bomb syria. plus they were bombing turkmen civillians.
>>56613043
this man speaks the truth
>>56615327
>turkey hiding behind NATO like a child clinging to his mothers skirt
kek, what a bunch of pussies who can't fight on their own with mommy backing them up.
>>56615602
it's more akin to walking on someone's lawn since breaking and entering would imply some type of malicious intent and at least some property damage
Ok in simple terms
>>Russians performing recon/mission
>>Fly into Turkish airspace
>>Warned 10 times ,leave plox
>>9 seconds later
>>Shoot Russian Plane
>>Allah Ackbar
>> what have we gone and done
GET UP GET UP GET UP DROP DA BOMBSHELL
Anglosphere and Russia have .... almost a hobby of invading one another's airspace.
Turkey cannot in2banter
>>56615682
>HOW DARE THEY BOMB OUR BRAVE ISIS BROTHERS INCHALLAH NOW WHERE'S MY 9 YEAR OLD WIFE?
Turks are the biggest problem in the world today
they have one of the biggest armies in the world, they're on the doorstep of ISIS, and they're a member of NATO. they should be the ones taking refugees and attacking ISIS
instead they do fuck all, have their men invade Germany, and shoot down mother Russia's freedom jets.
>>56614150
No but we can pretend.
>>56613322
Underrated kek.
>>56615399
that's not the subject.
but yeah, turkish army possibly left them to their deaths. so what?
"oh we gonna punish you for invading our airspace, but fear not, we will protect/give you back to your country after we blow up your plane."
>>56613619
rules are rules. If turkey was USA you would`ve got nuked the fuck off the world map.
What is wrong is that you cannot shoot them after they exit your airspace. This is an act of war you have committed.
For example:
A country can have border guards and shoot someone who crosses the border.
But if the border guards sees someone walk across and back, they cannot chase him into the other country to kill him.
>>56615602
Its more like
>Guy walks across my field peacefully for 15 seconds
If I take issue with it I'm going to go up to him and tell him to leave my field and *possibly* escort him. I'm not going to blow his head off the moment his foot touches my land.
>>56615531
Sure does.
"Article 5 is at the basis of a fundamental principle of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation. It provides that if a NATO Ally is the victim of an armed attack, each and every other member of the Alliance will consider this act of violence as an armed attack against all members and will take the actions it deems necessary to assist the Ally attacked."
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm?
>>56614777
Yeah yours was broken not too long ago.
>>56615792
world is not black and white you know. i hate isis I am an atheist kemalist. it doesn't mean you can enter turkish air space as you like or bomb anyone you want.
>>56615630
You literally have no fucking idea what the entire purpose of NATO is.
NATO has no option of whether or not to defend a member. That's literally the entire fucking point of NATO in the first place.
Failing to defend a member instantly negates the entire function of NATO, essentially dissolving it immediately.
Notice how Russia didn't try any of the Ukraine-style bullshit in Eastern Poland? Exactly.
>>56615682
Give time to take tourists, and then begin to talk of an adult
>>56613512
when did you found money to buy some jet fuel?
>>56615327
This
Putin/some other butthurt slav will make some big speech about it and demand an apology and threatening retaliation.
NATO/Turks/Turk allies will deliver some speech saying it was a mistake and we're talking with the Turks to fix it and we don't condone it etc etc.
Nothing will actually change.
>>56614658
Yours will be turnt to vapor before it gets dark
>>56615602
more like some guy walking by steps on the edge of your lawn for 9 seconds and you shoot him in the back after hes already left.
>>56615682
>Bombing turks
>a bad thing
If they're in Syria then you should be bombing them too you fucking idiot.
>>56615473
The Russian military is a creaking, Soviet-era mess. If it's any bit as corrupt as the rest of the government, half the officers will be shit. Russia also doesn't have the money to handle any sort of conflict right now; their economy is in shambles, and ordinary Russians would not be able to bare it.
I've lived in Russia, I have friends there. Some of them eat meat once a month, because inflation is so bad. They hate the current conflict with Ukraine, but support the home team anyway; they like to thump their chests about Syria, but it's a cash drain they're beginning to become very uncomfortable with. Russia is fucked; if Russia invades Turkey, they're turbofucked.
>>56614123
I really hope they push your shit in you sorry fuck.
>>56615939
what kind of horseshit reasoning is that?
>>56615682
>Turkmen civilians
Yes, ISIS.
>>56615991
so will NATO do anything since turkey was the aggressor?
>>56615932
please, russia invades our alaskan airspace for shits and giggles all the time and we just wave to them and escort them out
>>56612417
remove yourself, kebab shitstain
>>56613796
This typifies how stupid middle easterners are
>>56613512
what are you going to do about it pussy? Kick a jet down a pit?
>Russian jets enter British airspace
>RAF scrambled to track and monitor aircraft until they leave airspace
>Russian jets enter Turkish airspace
>shoot down jet for no raisin
>start WWIII
>>56615630
>>56615327
See >>56615991
If a country is the aggressor NATO will not help them.
>>56613986
your mother is haram to us
>Literally what's wrong with aiding Radical Islam?
Remove kebab from NATO then remove kebab from Earth.
>>56615991
>Will take the actions it deems necessary to assist the Ally attacked.
That doesn't mean anything though. We don't have to do anything for them. We could say, "Oh Russia fucked up, oh well." and that's it.
>>56616009
> Implying it wasn't intentionally allowed to happen
>>56615327
Most countries in NATO don't even like Turkey.
They have a fucking dictator as president.
They shoot down planes and lie about it.
They were only of use to the West as a buffer zone between the West and Russia/ME.
Turkey pretty much fucked up this time. Nobody would care if they lost NATO membership.
>>56614390
15 seconds too long.
>>56613619
Russian getting btfo by Turkey.
Literally what's wrong if people close to erdowan start dying of natural reasons in coming days.... Also i don't see anything wrong if mistakenly Russian bombs fall in turkey
>>56615797
you realize there are almost 5 million syrian refugees in turkey you ignorant fuck?
>>56613681
Oh no Russian sanctions, how will Turkey survive without imports of depression and suicide?
>>56612417
Let me shoot down the next Turkish airlines plane passing by, then
>>56616083
eating meat rarely is wise, if everyone did so we could raise our livestock in humane conditions.
your great great grandparents probably ate meat once a month or less even, and youre here today.
>>56615927
You do realise what the geneva convention is right? Even shitty third world pig fucker countries should abide by it.
>>56615797
And remember they're the fucking path for westerners to join ISIS and they do next to nothing to stop it.
>>56615927
You didn't just leave them to their deaths, you fucking sent them there. Those are white, civilised lives that your barbaric mudslime scum removed from the Earth.
>OHMYGAWSH ID'S HABBENING :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
You guys are fucking idiots, Russia and Turkey relies on each other's economy.
In worst case the diplomatic relations will get fucked up for a while and thats it.
>>56616224
>OH NO 'MUH REFUGEE HOSTAGES'
turks in full damage control now!
>>56612417
You fucking dumb turkshits. Russia has violated our waters and airspace before but you don't see us just shooting them down because that's something you don't fucking do. you dumb motherfuckers.
>>56616013
>I am an atheist kemalist
And I am marxist, 1/4 Leninist, Maoist, anarcho-capitalist.
>or bomb anyone you want
you sure do a lot of that to the Kurds in northern Syria.
>>56616125
NATO will do nothing since Turkey struck first. The website speaks a lot of defense, but it appears if one strikes first the rest of the members will not defend them.
>>56614658
Look my Turkish friend, I respect the spine.
Just be prepared for the consequences if they call your bluff.
I'll pray for you bastards, but because I am fallen, I can't shake the feeling that I want you all nuked.
>>56615682
Now what exactly would a turkish "civilian" be doing in a neighboring warzone?
Going out for turk-tea? Fighting with an armed rebel group?
>>56616263
If that was the case, Russia shouldn't have flown the wrong way you dumb shit
>>56612417
You've violated Syrian airspace several fucking times you dirty sandnigger
>>56616224
You realize that shooting down the only nation who is actually trying to improve the situation is not exactly considered a strategic move in that respect?
>>56613043
REMINDER, TURKEY HAS MASSIVELY BREACHED NATO ROE FOR INTERCEPTION OF ANY AIRCRAFT.
YOU MUST VISUALLY INTERCEPT THE AIRCRAFT AND HAVE VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE PILOT
IF THE AIRCRAFT IS ON AN EXIT COURSE OF AN EXTREMELY NARROW BAND OF AIRSPACE, INTERCEPTION IS UNCALLED FOR
AT THE HALFWAY POINT, AN AIRCRAFT ENCROACHING UPON AIRSPACE IF ON AN EXIT COURSE, HAS COMPLIED WITH WARNINGS AND ORDERS AND CANNOT BE FIRED UPON
THE MINUTE THE AIRCRAFT IS OUT OF YOUR AIRSPACE, IT CANNOT BE FIRED UPON AND YOU MUST TURN AROUND AND GO HOME
IF YOU KNOW THE PURPOSE OF AN AIRCRAFT OPERATING CLOSE TO THE BORDER, ACCIDENTAL ENCROACHMENT IS ALLOWED AND NECESSITATES NO SCRAMBLE OR INTERCEPTION, UNLESS THE AIRCRAFT IS ON A PATH INTO YOUR COUNTRY WITH NO DEFINED EXIT POINT. IF THE AIRCRAFT IS MILITARY AND CLEARLY ARMED, AN AIRBORNE SENTRY CONSISTING OF AN INTERCEPTION SQUADRON IS ENCOURAGED TO FLY A HOLDING PATTERN ALONG THE BORDER FOR QUICK TURNAROUND. (NOTE, THAT DOESNT HAVE SHOOTDOWN OR EVEN RADAR LOCK ANYWHERE IN THE DEFINITION OF TURN AROUND)
DO NOT FIRE UPON AN AIRCRAFT THAT IS LEAVING OR HAS LEFT AIRSPACE. IT IS AN ACT OF WAR THAT BARS YOU FROM INCITING ARTICLE 5, AS NATO IS A DEFENSIVE MILITARY ORGANIZATION AND ARTICLE 5 ONLY COVERS A NATION ATTACKING A NATO COUNTRY WITHOUT DIRECT PROVOCATION OF THAT COUNTRY, OR AN OBJECTIVE ACT OF WAR AGAINST YOUR NOW PRESENT AGGRESSOR.
>tldr, fuck the Turks
Cry about it mehmet when we kick you out of NATO. They've been in deep shit anyway from the Kurdish bombings and directly aiding terrorists. They attempted to bomb a delta force detachment with the Kurds, but a strike eagle was on station and burned to intercept when the Turks were clearly heading towards the delta AO.
NATO is a defensive organization, not an organization used to bully larger countries and hide behind their allies. The airbase is almost in warning range of Turkish airspace. Have fun without NATO.
I will post this in every thread until the point is made.
>>56616263
p accurate desu
>>56616069
>>56616121
>don't know ethnic turks live in northern syria just like kurds.
they are not isis they are normal people who live there you fucktard
>>56614893
>you violate our space you get fucked up
You fuck with Russia, you get fucked up.
Prepare your hairy anus Turkey. You about to get ass raped and aint nobody going to help you this time. You really fucked up man, you really did this time.
Btw. Enjoy your democratically chosen genocidal dictator.
>>56616017
NATO only has to defend from agressors. Turkey has established itself as the aggressor and we should, in keeping with the fundamentals you are talking about, kick them out for inviting aggression that we would be compelled to save them from.
>>56616121
I think you mean Daesh lolololol
>>56615111
>to pretend to be big and bad without consequence.
That is what Turkey did...
>>56616083
War work is good for economies anon.
You saying how much Russia sucks when you're an American just shows me that the hatred of the USSR still runs in you.
>>56614150
>>56615862
Lol'd
>>56612417
Would you shoot an ally's jet if he came into your airspace?
Probably not, so we can establish that enforcing your airspace is dependent on circumstances and conditions, it is not a black and white issue.
So the next question is why did Turkey feel the need to down a Russian jet while it was continuing operations against terrorists in the region?
Russia is not a threat to Turkey and yet Turkey's action betray that they must feel threatened on some level. They feel threatened because they have a stake in ISIS' survival, and the recent strikes on the oil infrastructure has made them even more "edgy".
The Turks had no right to down that aircraft, and I'm sure NATO rules will reinforce this position, if they don't they are an illegitimate organization with a biased agenda.
>>56613619
Yeah Turkey is fucked, probably will get kicked out of NATO.
You're not supposed to engage anyone invading your airspace unless they proven to have a clear an imminent desire to attack or already have.
NATO doesn't grant Turkey permission to just shoot down anyone violating their air space for 20 seconds.
Not to mention its already been proven they have lied about contacting the pilot for 5 minutes straight.
They are supposed to scramble and make visual contact with their own air support.
All of which was impossible considering they pretty much blew the guy up the moment he entered.
Turkey is fucking finished.
>>56615327
look at this retarded american, burger devouring, illiterate fag. fuck you and fuck NATO.
I wish to see the day when Germany leaves this ungodly organizations (NATO and EU) and joins up with Russia and France in a new alliance.
Hahahahaha, so much butthurt from all the Turkey haters. Lovin it :DDDDDD
>>56614958
once british send greeks to us, we fucked them in the ass. don't try that second time.
>>56615725
>>56615957
>>56616062
except for the fact russians knew they shouldn't be there
turks had warned them not to cross that line
this isn't the first time its happened
russians crossed the line anyway because they didn't care and assumed their preplanned apology would work again
>>56613316
America America America !!!
If there's a WW3 will my money be as valuable as yours senpai?
OBAMA TAKING TURKEY'S SIDE
WW3 WHEN?
>>56616083
I think USA is behind this. I dont believe the Turks would do something like this on their own. Russia's foreign policy consists of propaganda about >le strong russian bear but really their country is fucked. The Turks called their bluff and if the Russians do nothing about this and the other provocations that i predict coming their whole image of the scary superpower crumbles and in a couple of years they won't even be in Ukraine. If they decide to do something about it they're gonna be dragged into a long probably proxy-like war that will drain them so USA wins again.
Thoughts on this anyone?
>>56616641
This desu. I made this thread like 30 minutes ago. Look at the 200 replies :-DDDD
>>56616420
>improve the situation
Depends on your point of view, if you respect human decency then, yes, they're improving the situation. If you want a caliphate and cheap, blood tainted oil then it's understandable that you might not want Russia interfering.
>>56616527
Since it was Turkish airspace in question, Turkey is not an aggressor.
Absolutely nothing is going to happen to Turkey other than Russian whining.
And Russian whining carries about as much weight as fucking nothing.
>>56616592
>Violate airspace
>No right to take action
Fuck off Slavboo, you'd be crying if a Russian warplane passed over your pathetic country
>>56613043
You're exactly like those idiots on GTA Online who will just shoot at everybody in proximity because they're terrified.
>>56616171
That's exactly what the article says. Turkey attacked a Russian plane first and thus acts as the aggressor in the conflict. If Russia decides to take further action NATO will not intervene.
>>56616420
how does bombing EU/US backed rebels helping the situation? Russia doesn't strike ISIS or just do so as a show.
It is whole west's and turkey's fault this shit started. I support Assad rather than any other rebels. But now its impossible to make any diffrence Syria will be in constant war for another 20 years.
>>56616446
>Its only ok when its Turkey doing it to the Kurd!
>T-Turks are people I swear!
>>56616331
oh my fucking god. you shits are doing all the autism on purpose under the guise of "debate", are you? what damage control? what the fuck do we gain by controlling damage on fucking 4chan?
>>56615797
>they should be the ones taking refugees and attacking ISIS
we already fucking do that shit. last month isis killed over 100 people in peace gathering in ankara, just to retaliate for our military operations and just to say, "we are fucking here and this is war."
we are already fighting it.
>>56615991
In this case Turkey was not "the victim of an armed attack".
Article 5 cannot be invoked.
>>56616786
>its always the U.S's fault
Literally without fail, each, and every fucking time.
Kill yourself, you worthless, fat, ass beard conspiracy theorist.
>>56616794
People get mad when you do stupid shit and act like it's ok.
Are you really that surprised?
>>56616017
NATO is a defensie alliance.
It doesn't work unconditionally if you go shit on someone and they come to fuck your shit up in return.
>>56612942
They were warned like 10 times senpaitachi.
>>56612417
if we shot your planes each time you were in our airspace you wouldnt have any planes left YOU PIG FUCKING MUHUMED BLOWING TURBOFUCK
THE AEGEAN WILL NEVER BE FOR YOUR UNIBROWS YOU DONKEY FUCKING ALLAH RAPING BARBARIAN
>>56616034
>This
>Putin/some other butthurt slav will make some big speech about it and demand an apology and threatening retaliation.
>NATO/Turks/Turk allies will deliver some speech saying it was a mistake and we're talking with the Turks to fix it and we don't condone it etc etc.
>Nothing will actually change.
I'm RIDF as fuck and I agree with this anon. I really want the subhuman Turk to pay, but no military action will result from this.
Economic shit might not even happen.
It fucking sucks because those pilots were actually defending us from the terrorist filth Erdogan provides saftey to, but reality is cruel as fuck.
>>56616434
>"you seem upset"
>types 10 lines of text in full caps without giving a source for absolutely anything
>>56616786
The fact that someone might benefit from something in some regard does not mean they orchestrated it.
This is just kebab being assmad that putin is killing other kebab.
>>56616434
>THE MINUTE THE AIRCRAFT IS OUT OF YOUR AIRSPACE, IT CANNOT BE FIRED UPON AND YOU MUST TURN AROUND AND GO HOME
This
>>56613322
top fucking kek
>>56616937
It's already been proven they are lying.
How do you warn anyone 5, 10 times, in the span of 20 seconds or less?
More overly, you CANNOT just warn them over comm systems, and then blow them up 5 seconds later.
YOU HAVE TO SCRAMBLE YOUR OWN JET AND MAKE VISUAL CONTACT.
Something that was IMPOSSIBLE to do.
Turkey fucked up hard.
>>56616668
>turks getting to chimp out is more important than Russians trying to stabilise a warzone
Please stop talking about something you don't comprehend. NATO has rules of engagement and these are not those.
>yfw all these turk posters will be vaporized
in a real world situation, how long would it actually take russia to stuff turkey in a non-proxy war? will they make it before christmas?
>>56616434
sauce?
>>56616955
Kek, calm down Mehmetoulu. We already have your peninsulan mainland, we don't need a bunch of debt/syrian ridden islands :-DDDD
>>56616854
>damage control
>an attempt made to correct or rectify a situation that went wrong
And that's exactly what you're doing.
>>56614123
Remember what language you're speaking.
With language comes culture,
You're undeserving.
>>56616829
What a beautiful, logically laid out argument. You are inferior to me by a long shot, I can debate you a hundred times in your own language and you would lose each time.
Fall back America, this is my airspace.
>>56616296
Yes, but imagine if a staple American food doubled in price in the course of 9 months. And then realize electronics have exploded in price to almost four times as high. That's the Russian economy right now.
>>56616575
>war work is good for economies
No, it's shit. It is absolute shit. It raises taxes, debt, and inflation. No one wins except defense contractors.
>y-you just hate the USSR
Nigger I lived in fucking Siberia. Don't tell me I hate the country, I love the people there. Their government a shit.
>>56616786
The USA is shitting their pants and throwing Turkey under the bus by providing the technical data. I don't think it was a part of any grand scheme. It was just the Turks saying "Stop violating our airspace, Russia," and Russian continuing to do it until they got BTFO.
Also, please note the shit-tier English in a lot of these threads. Kremlin trolls out in force today. Watch for when they call Turks "child" but can't figure out the plural form correctly.
Well I think it's wrong because it's fun to watch Russia bomb things.
That's just my feels though.
>>56614149
>This. Russia has routinely violated Estonia, Finnish, Latvian, Lithuanian, Swedish, Norwegian, British, Danish, American, Georgian, and Turkish air space and maritime exclusion zones for years now.
And barely anyone gives any fucks.
We don't fucking chimp out, we escort them out and that's that, the RAF and the rest of Britain goes back to being a civilised Western society.
>>56616852
If you want a full confrontational war between the worlds two superpowers in your back yard, be my guest.
>>56616248
if Russia torn of the natural gaz turkey is fucked
>>56617133
Their war machine would break down once they realize they don't have the cash to do anything substantial. Turkey might annex a bit of territory afterwards
>>56616668
Yeah you are ignoring the fact that the plane was shot down WHILST INSIDE SYRIA.
>American guy crosses border to Russia then walks back
>Russia sends squad into the US to kill him
It should be glaringly obvious to anyone who isn't a retard that the key question is whether the plane was shot down INSIDE TURKEY or AFTER IT HAD EXITED TURKEY.
>>56616434
>if true, awesome post
Did not know any of this. Does this change the calculus?
>>56616803
>Shooting down the plane of what is basically an ally while it has jsut peacefully passed through your airspace and is now in foreign airspace overwhich you have no jurisdiction
>Not aggressive.
>>56617280
What are you going to do if I don't? Shoot me down?
turkey is literally that one fucking Muslim kid we all know that flips his shit at something completely mundane
>someone bumps into someone on the train
>turk starts flipping his shit and throwing sucker punches
>>56616434
>caps lock
>wall of text
didn't read
>>56616592
>Would you shoot an ally's jet if he came into your airspace?
how the fuck is this even a question?
it is black and white
friend walks into your apt with a weapon
vs
random nig walks into your apt with a weapon
looks pretty clear cut
>>56617310
>the rest of Britain goes back to not standing up for their sovereignty and allowing Russia to return and bully them time and time agian
Shouldn't you be off chasing a nuclear sub, friend?
>>56612417
You were not defending your airspace but the terrorists that Russia was attacking, basically you defend ISIS and then run to papa NATO scared you double faced fucks.
>>56612417
The only airspace you have was given to you by white people, faggot. Be thankful we didn't kill you all
>>56614658
>top bantz but westerns are too keked to understand.
>>56613043
i hope putin slaughters your family
>>56612417
It's a dick move.
The cold war ended, remember?
>>56616955
XD simply alani
>>56614461
What is NATO Article 5. They may be shitskins, but a treaty is a treaty. It would literally trigger WW3 Nuclear Boogalee if Russia invaded Turkey.
>>56613043
Shut up mongol
Perhaps should start shooting islamoturkistan planes down for the numerous genocides and violations of air space in Syria Greece and occupation of Cyprus
>>56617449
tldr turkey didn't obey nato "laws" and went full retard.
>>56612417
>have stupid fucking pointy bit at bottom border
>jet scoots over it for fifteen seconds
>kaboom
>dindu nuffin
>>56616653
>once british send greeks to us, we fucked them in the ass. don't try that second time.
Is that what your propaganda says?
The Greeks were left to die after Britain abandoned them and blockaded because they didn't want them to take Anatolia and join up with Russia.
They did similiar shit when the Greeks were fighting the nazis back in World War 2.
British were huge assholes back then.
