My professor openly whitewashed the paris terror attacks in class today. "well we need to consider that the west has played a major role in enticing some people, horseshit, ect" I need to get the fuck out of this county. Does Russia yield to pc muzzie friendly faggotry?
well, he's not wrong.
if you create a monster, then you're partly responsible.
the monster is also responsible of being a piece of shit though.
the two things are not mutually exclusive.
>>56602293
The Iraq war is the number one factor in the rise of ISIS. Stop racialising every issue. Bush Blair, Cheney Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz are to blame along with the fools in Obama's admin like Clinton that advocated arming them.
>>56602293
russia's gdp is like $10,000 per capita. why would you want to live there? you'll be poor
>>56602421
How the fuck has the West made Islam a violent subhuman culture?
>>56603251
CIA backed coups, for example.
>Syria 1949
>Iran 1953
>Iraq 1960–63
>Afghanistan 1979–89
>Turkey 1980
>Iraq 1992–96
>Iran 2005
Desperate and frustrated people look for an enemy and a reason to hate him. The West has been fucking around with Middle-East for too long to be ignored. Thus, extremism in direct opposition to it was born.
We would do exactly the same against a perceived oppressor.
>>56602421
Islam has been around for 1400 years, and for all that time it has been at war with the West, because it's an expansionist, war-mongering, barbaric ideology.
>>56603852
The West has also been in a war with itself for the past 2000 years though. That's not really an argument. We've been living in a state of internal peace for the last 70 years or so.
Humans have always sought war and power anyway. The ideology behind just gives us an excuse.
>>56603251
>>56603817
The US (and the British before them) has always supported radical Islamists over secular nationalists in the region. The US hasn't been serious about containing ISIS because ISIS is being exploited as a proxy for US interests.
>>56603817
So prior to 1949, Islam truly was a religion of peace who didn't stone women to death for not wearing modest clothing, who didn't genocide entire peoples for not submitting to their ideologies, who didn't jihad into Europe multiple, killing everyone in their path, to expand their shitty religion?
>>56602293
can somebody tell me where the white moon with sunglasses smiley face mask man that kills nigs meme cam from?
>>56604440
To be honest, who gives a shit about what sheep fuckers do in their land. I'm concerned about said sheepfuckers blowing themselves up together with my friends and family.
Exporting democracy and western values (which is anyway just an excuse for money and resources) to those who haven't spilled sweat and blood for them doesn't work. It's acually counterproductive, as we can see at the moment.
I'm not even getting into the topic of our supposed moral high ground prior to 1949. Like we never committed crimes against humanity.
>>56605120
ytmnd
>>56602293
Usually the elite class (politicans, pundits, professors) swings to the left as their world comes crashing down, even if the rest of the public swings to the right on that issue.
So rather than restraining ourselves on globalization, backing down on intervening in the middle east, etc. we will instead double on these issues.
>>56605148
Holocaust didn't happen desu.
>>56602293
>not posting school
>not posting professor
Come on, OP, do you want the administration to know or are you just fucking around before your art history class?
>>56602421
This
>Stick your nose external affairs
>Suprised when they attack you.
>>56605460
DUDE
>>56605148
No no no, you're not dodging this. You said the West created a monster. Islam has always been a monster.
>I'm concerned about said sheepfuckers blowing themselves up together with my friends and family.
So we shouldn't have imported the sheepfuckers into our lands.
>>56605356
Eh, not a negationist, but even if I was my point would still stand desu senpai.
>>56604440
No, but radical jihadists were dealt with accordingly with the secularist govnts the US pushed so hard to destroy.
>>56605585
Islam has always been a monster as in humans do bad stuff to other humans, yes.
Islam has always been a monster as in terror suicide squads in your cities while burning american flags and screaming allahu akbar west is pigs burn the west for muhammad, no.
Islam is much fucking worse now, that's the monster the West has created. Or at least unleashed on itself.
>So we shouldn't have imported the sheepfuckers into our lands.
Never said the opposite.
>>56605915
>Islam has always been a monster as in terror suicide squads in your cities while burning american flags and screaming allahu akbar west is pigs burn the west for muhammad, no.
>Never said the opposite.
You were always going to get that first quote by importing them into your lands. Whether the West moved a finger or not is irrelevant. That's Islam. That's the ugly beast that they worship.
>>56606648
>by importing them into your lands
I'm not German but Italian.
Still, you can't hold all german people responsible for the kekening that's happening. A lot of them are mad as fuck, and they're right about it. This concept of democracy is shit because nobody ever asks the "demos" what they think if the country should import 2 millions Mehmets or not.
I honestly don't believe it's irrelevant at all. Think about Iran and how the U.S. fucked up their government and supported goddamn Khomeini.
Dude, fucking Khomeini.
And think about how we're constantly trying to convince ourselves that we can control the "moderate rebels" and use them for our interests.
The most effective comeback is using their own logic against them, accuse the professor of "victim blaming".
>>56607924
Right, but Islam is always Islam. It's a shit ideology that advocates genocide, women killing, expanse into other lands, and extremism. It doesn't matter what anyone does. It's the religion.
>>56608210
While I do agree that their book says a lot of shit, I'm also sure that humans are both capable of weeding out the violent shit when it's not needed. There were a lot of islamic empires in the past that didn't give a shit about jihads.
As there were a lot of christian empires that, while starting from a much more diplomatic and peaceful message, became violent conquerors, warmongers and whatever else.
Dunno man, humans are humans. They get violent no matter what ideology backs them up. I wouldn't blame it per se, even if islam is really full of shit.
>>56602293
>>56604440
>Islam truly was a religion of peace who didn't stone women
Fuck off, cunt protector. Men have to wear bears 24/7, that's far more misandrist than having to wear veils for a couple of minutes every day.
>>56608878
If you're referring to the Christian crusades, they came about by shit like what we're talking about. Fucking mudslime filth getting unruly and the Christians having enough of their shit and purging them.
And Christianity stopped killing and purging hundreds of years ago, while Islam does it today. It's an ass backwards ideology that needs to be purged from the planet.
>implying he's wrong
Christ I hope you're not studying history.
>>56602421
So are the advocates of extreme political correctness responsible for the rise of the far-right, thereby making them responsible?
>>56609462
Ever heard of the 30 years' war?
>>56602293
ive openly started saying shit to my professors when they start spewing their rhetorical bullshit. its pretty awkward but I'm 24 and don't give a fuck about school anymore. give me my degree and stop people teenagers bullshit.
>>56609865
I have. So he's referring to that then. Okay.
>>56608878
>humans are humans
das it mane, they be equally violent and shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
Sandniggers are human garbage, but they would be content to stay in their dirt holes and murder-rape each other for disagreeing on religious minutae or showing too much skin were it not for western nations using the region as their chess board from the Cold War onward.
It would basically be a drier version of the Congo.
>>56602421
