forget about ww3
realistically , what could russia do againt turkey for revenge. drop a bomb on some soldiers? shoot one aircraft?
Nuke paris
>>56592900
invade it and reclaim constantinople since article 5 isnt valid in this case
>>56595068
This is most likely scenario.
nothing really
>>56592900
Give better stuff to the Kurds.
>>56592900
probably return the favor if Turkey or NATO come from Turkish airspace into Syrian airspace
>>56592900
they could push all ISIS scum from Syria to turkey and from there to western europe.... that will be funny pretty soon
>>56595068
article 5 is not binding in this scenario, but any major retaliation from Russia will either force NATO to disband or react.
>>56592900
>what could russia do againt turkey for revenge
Arm Kurds
>>56595790
effectively, by declaring Turkey in league with ISIS, any form of NATO attempting to assist the Syrian rebels is seen as trying to aid the terrorists, and in turn, fair targets.
It might not look like it, but politically, Russia just sealed Assad's position in Syria.
>>56592900
Gib weapons to Kurds
>>56595682
>Give better stuff to the Kurds
>Imblying Russia has better stuff
They gonna give them that one nice fighter they dust off for airshows? Or did that crash?
Sponsor the Kurds. The Kurds deserve a state anyway
>>56596175
only a fucking idiot would underestimate russia. why int he fuck do you think putin rolls around like ayyy lmao 24/7? no one at the present time has the balls to fuck him off.
>>56592900
destroy isis and arm the kurds
help em to make kurdistan and let them take 30% turkish clay
that would be a realistic scenario and hurt turkey very hard
I bet Putin won't take this lightly but he'll probably wait.
>>56596336
>why int he fuck do you think putin rolls around like ayyy lmao 24/7?
Because his entire country is surrounded by 3rd world shitholes?
Kim Jong Un rolls around 24/7 like a badass too, are you impressed with his cartoon badassery?
>>56595452
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>>56596083
This.
Turkey fucked up. And best thing can happen is for USA to spank it a bit.
Putin has the power, and the moral high ground know.
The whole world gives Putin and russia respect for a reason. He does not beg! he does not ask!
He takes!! And even sand nigger leaders respect him more than Obama.
And he wont announce. He will just punish Turkey into getting on its knees for its mistake.
You dont fuck with the Putin.
And USA wont defend Turkey. Obama wont do anything against Putin.
Turkey is so afraid they called Nato right after begging to be taken care of and a meeting.
They know they poked the bear.
>>56592900
Nothing. A note of protest.
>>56596926
>The whole world gives Putin and russia respect for a reason
Yes, because he sits on a large nuclear arsenal that he can't use without getting burned off of the map by Nato.
Do you get paid to suck off Putin on /pol/ or are you a legitimate fangirl?
>>56596175
What he can do is give the Kurds some real hardware. The Obama Administration has been keking around and will only supply basic shit, mostly because of the smelly Turk and how he gets butthurt about Kurdish RIGHTFUL CLAY. Russia is closer and can start arming the Kurds in a way that turns them from resistance movement into a real army.
>>56592900
Russians ground troops all over Syria, tens of thousands of them.
>>56597030
The Russians already sell their best shit to whoever has the rubles.
So basically nothing new.
>mfw 10m turkish refugees are going to germany
>>56592900
They will just bomb muslims much harder now
>>56592900
They are useless.
Turkey along would destroy them, ;let alone NATO.
Putin sooooo badly wants a fight, but the manlet wont get one on his terms
>>56597150
heh, just not on a flight path over Turkey.
>>56597027
>Do you get paid to suck off Putin on /pol/ or are you a legitimate fangirl?
Literally the only anti-Putin people on /pol/ are NGOs shills and niggers. Which one are you?
>>56597030
>What he can do is give the Kurds some real hardware. The Obama Administration has been keking around and will only supply basic shit, mostly because of the smelly Turk and how he gets butthurt about Kurdish RIGHTFUL CLAY. Russia is closer and can start arming the Kurds in a way that turns them from resistance movement into a real army.
I am hoping this.
>>56596926
Very funny, but Ruissia is just a thug-janitor now, clearing out the mess that US/EU has created.
No Turkish Stream than, ok.
>>56597206
>Literally the only anti-Putin people on /pol/
Are heterosexuals who don't engage in adolescent cartoon fantasies involving puffed-up thug dictators.
Clearly you are not one of those.
>>56597279
Yes, air campaigns over Durka-land have always proven super-effective.
Daily reminder that Turkey is not part of Europe.
>this thread
>implying kurdish insurgents haven't been internationally sponsored for decades
>implying the most serious thing they've ever done isn't killing off-duty soldiers and cops
>implying giving them bigger weapons would do anything other than giving Turkey reasons to bomb more 'strategic targets', maybe also civilian ones
>>56597374
+0.50 USD have been added to your account.
Your English is terrible, nigger, better work on it if you're going to spread propaganda.
>>56597203
This
Turkey could conquer Russia in about a month, I'd bet
>>56596926
>The whole world gives Putin and russia respect for a reason.
>respect
Yeah, the same way you respect someone who's juggling grenades and keeps saying "oooh, it would be sad if something happened to you or your stuff".
>>56592900
Arm the Kurd en masse? Dimwit
>>56596004
>any major retaliation from Russia will either force NATO to disband or react.
fixed:
>any major retaliation from Russia will either force NATO to kick turkey out or react by threatening to kick out turkey.
>>56592900
From what our parliament has suggested so far, the realistic option is to cease communication over air. As an immediate result, Turkey will lose a fair bit of income from tourism. Rostourism's recommendations are already out, and at least one of the operators has ceased selling tours there.
Another idea, although not the brightest one, is to shut Turkey's hydrocarbon supply off. I'm no expert, so it's unclear to me whether or not we can the market for the surplus and how replaceable our shit is.
For a symmetric countermeasure, we can shoot their planes over Armenia and justify it as protecting our airbase.
>>56597709
It takes skill to juggle, you dumb shit.
>>56597374
your posts stand out like a sore thumb, you may want to work on that
at least learn how to greentext ffs
>>56597203
>Turkey
>Destroying anything but their undies when the Ruskies Tsar bomb them back to the bronze age
>>56592900
Intensive support for Kurds to establish a State brodering Turkey with logistical supply lines to assad and russia.
Protect kurd airspace with russian fighters. Supply PKK in Turkey with Intel and weaponry
>>56597983
Well, Putin's "juggling" is his propaganda machine. That's the thing worthy of respect.
>>56598333
This would all be possible in a world with $80 a barrel oil.
Too bad about that.
>>56598333
>>56596362
>europeans sucking k*rd dick
Wait until K*rds start multiplying uncontrollably on your lands
>>56597916
Many a nation has buckled under the threat of a cutoff of pasty, cheapass Russian tourists.
This could prove effective.
>>56592900
Three things stand out.
Take them to International Crimes Court and demand restitution. This is most likely to happen
Place an embargo or restrictions such as a no fly zone on Turkey's border. Not likely to happen but still a possibility.
Force Obama's hand, his puppet Erdogan steps down, Assad gets to stay in place. Unlikely and we will never know about it till the dust settles. If anyone doesn't yet think this is the cold war talked about in "The Next 100 Years", I highly suggest you read a book.
>>56592900
Probably KGB a few politicians
>>56598886
So,
1. write an angry letter from their lawyer
I agree this is the most likely, and the Turks might even pretend to give a fuck (not likely)
2. Embargoing fossil fuels when there's an enormous worldwide supply and low demand would be worse for the Russians than the Turks. And I suppose they could stop flights into Turkey from the north (which is entirely Russian) but they just don't have the muscle to shut down Turkish airspace. Nor would they have the balls to attempt that on a NATO member.
3. Yes, it's ridiculously unlikely that Putin could create regime change in Turkey.
So angry letter it is.
>>56598938
This is a thing they do in former Soviet states, not in NATO nations.
For a good reason.
>>56598756
> k*rd
>R*ssian
Why not spell it like a normal fucking person?
Thank God I'm not the Guy who shot down the plane or who gave the Order.
I mean, do you really want that the FSB murders your whole family, mixes some polonium or other horrible stuff in your food. Maybe captures you and tortures you for 30 years in some gulag before they finally let you eat a bullet?
I think thats what gonna happen.
Officially you won't ever hear about it, nobody will know the truth for sure.
But when you end up on Russias Death List, you better start running.
>>56592900
Invade turkey or bomb turkey m
Article five invoked
War in Eastern Europe/Scandinavia/ the arctic/ Alaska/ Middle East
M8. This is the biggest happening since 1939
>>56596004
Right but if Russia can show NATO for the important outdated de-unified shit show it is they will
That is Russia ultimate geopolitical goal
>>56594984
It would make France a better place desu. It would be a huge blow against terrorism too since terrorists would lose their go to terror attack city. Paris is the only relevant french city.
>>56596004
React by releasing a statement of deep concern.
>>56592900
>realistically , what could russia do againt turkey for revenge.
Block syrian airspace and shootdown turkish military plane.
Once area where kurdi live is accessible ruski can arm kurds for revenge, arming Armenia seem fun too.
Russia has one of the biggest hacker organisations in the world so they could spy on Turkey, even shut it down sometime for fun and economical crashes.
Stop sending their tourists to Turkey and destroy a big portion of Turkish economy.
Once it's all done and after 10 - 20 years Turkey will be a shithole like syria is right now, kurdistan , Armenia could start to go full beserkers , after some time of war russia could invade from the North , and when europe will see that the old ottoman empire is going to be extinct , join in and recapture Constantinople and a good east portion of Turkey ( which is always Greece clay )
Now it's all depend on vlad , if he want he can even nuke the shit out of them but it will not profit him.
Turkey vs. Russia
Who wins?
>>56600083
Alone? Russia. With NATO kicking Turkey out? Russia.
>>56596082
kek, I can't imagine Putin doing that, but it would be fucking hilarious
>>56599249
They will most likely give a few million or so for damages and call it even. Unless Ivan slavs out and kills a few Turks first.
>>56592900
economic sanctions
Total annihilation
>>56592900
Russia is with SCO, Turkey is with NATO.
Russia's RT are painting the incident as an "Act of War" by Turkey. (Putin said the same)
The main question is whether the jet was downed by a F16 or from the rebels on the ground.
At least Turkey will be boycotted by Russian tourists and that's a big revenue sector for Turkey. You can also expect economic sanctions from Russia. There is a joint pipeline called "Blue Stream". You have to observe what happens with it.
This destroyed the relationship between Turkey and Russia for good.
>>56597203
>this
The Turks actually have a real armed forces that get modernized regularly.
