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Why are Americans so defensive when it comes to guns?

Sure I can agree with you that having a handgun on you for self defense is a good idea, since if everybody has a gun thieves will think twice before trying to rob you, but why on Earth would you need an automatic riffle?
The chances you'll use it in self defense and not in some mass shooting in slim to none.
What convincing reason could you make defending regular Joe Schmo being able to purchase one?
>"Hurr durr, to defend 'gainst the gubmint 'course!"
If the government wanted you dead, they could use a tank or a helicopter or literally anything. Your one gun won't stop them from being able to bomb your ass
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I agree

A handgun is smart, but walking around with a fucking rifle is fedora worthy cringe
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>>56578283
*sigh* really Bulgaria?
with all the shit going on near you...
your judging us?
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>>56578387
Yes even the Balkans are questioning your logic in this regard
>le *sigh*
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>>56578387
We're too much of a shithole for anyone to come.
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>>56578283
this has been said a million times, and every time someone points out that the afghans seem to be doing alright against tanks and planes, and they are a tiny backwards group against the world's best military.

>>56578362
I can carry my rifle where I want, because I have freedom.
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I don't get it
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>>56578283
pleb country bro can't understand simple things
why am i not surprised

>the gov can use tanks, ayy lmao better surrender your guns

really nigga?
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>>56578633
and I can wear a fedora and tip it at every fair lady, doesn't make it any less cringe
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>>56578283
Why exactly is it that I need a reason?
I got 3 cars. Do I need a reason for having more than 1 car? Leave us alone dirty foreigner cück
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>>56578283
You're just so used to the governement screwing you over at each step that you can't understand the people who will have none of that. It's less about the guns themselves and more about the government being able to take your rights from you on a whim.
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The men are mostly circumcised, so they need to compensate, If you can't satisfy yourself or your women sexually, you turn to violence.
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>>56578727
I agree
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>>56578727

Nothing more cringe than those fucking fedora tipping mudslimes.
Don't get me started on those navy "fedora" seals.
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>>56578844
Exactly, and America was founded on the blood of patriots, and we will supply fresh blood. As much as needed.
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>>56578727
The only cringe is how Europeans are always cücks.
We have gun racks for our trucks where we put our ar15 when we go somewhere. Most people don't actually carry it because it's cumbersome and they have a concealed pistol on them.
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>>56578362
>walking around with a fucking rifle is fedora worthy cringe
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>>56578902
Bro, navy carrying guns is way different than a fedora wearing neckbeard fatty carrying a gun
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>>56578283
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED

you fat non-white gypsy scum


>If the government wanted you dead, they could use a tank or a helicopter or literally anything

my god just shut the fuck up

yeah let's replace all police officers with helicopters

when breaking into a house let's use tanks

LET'S BOMB OUR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE

dick
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>Why are Americans so defensive when it comes to guns?
>Establishers of the nation all but wrote The Riddle of Steel on our very being

Also, Serbia told me to never let the leftists take the guns.
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>>56578283
Getting a good education and not having insecurities is not easy.
Buying a rifle and being like "pew pew I'm a strong man!" it's way more easier
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How come no one ever complains about Switzerland's entire male population being armed with automatic weapons?
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>>56578961
> Bro, navy carrying guns is way different than a fedora wearing neckbeard fatty carrying a gun

You are fucking bluepill my friend.

They're all fedoras. God, you stupid fedora jews. You don't even know what's different and what's the same.
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>>56578961
This whole conversation is making me cringe. Such a cringe-worthy jew.
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>>56579045
Because they don't have niggers there
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ok ill bite because its late and im drunk

>automatic rifles
I assume you actually mean full auto
In the US any fully automatic rifle made before 1986 that was registered by the NFA is legally allowed to be owned and transferred for a fee, these guns are considered super collectible and the most basic NFA full auto will run you near $5000 to be legally owned and transferred after you pass a FBI background check.

but we also live in a world where a piece of string and a metal loop can make your m1 fire full retard.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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>>56579067
I bet if you carry a gun and a terrorist is running towards you with a knife, I bet you would run like a little bitch
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>>56579045
Because they're rich as fuck. There's no point in committing crime when you can just buy yourself happiness.
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>>56579158
Gibe more mone pls
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>>56579045
Maybe because hardly ever it is heard of mass shooting in swiss schools
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>>56579196
So tell me why we shouldn't have automatics in America then.
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we don't really have full auto guns

and most gun violence is committed with hand guns
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>>56579300
It's bad.
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>>56579232
away from him shooting the gun at him. I finished that for you.
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>>56578362
>>56578727
If you're gonna use the fedora meme, at least use greentext and fedora pictures.
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>>56579317
*Most
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>implying i need to justify why i own any type of gun to a fucking bulgarian
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I DO NOT HAVE A TINY DICK! Just look at the size of my gun if you don't believe me.
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>>56579232
I bet you would get on your knees and suck his uncircumcised cock.

Who would take the word of such a faggot seriously.
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>>56578283
>but why on Earth would you need an automatic riffle?
>need
There's that word again.
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>>56578283

>Why do you really need this part of your rights? Just give up this little part. Surely this won't lead to a precedent for more rights to be stripped.
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>>56579010
Correct, i still have a ak i literally removed kebab with.
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>>56579400
Haha
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>>56579405
Want to be the 51st state?
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>>56579405
Based Czech.
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>>56579481
can I be
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>>56579481
Can we be 52nd?
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>>56579567
then you would have to pay taxes
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>>56578283
>why on Earth would you need an automatic riffle?
to defend yourself

plus it's not a question of if i need it, it's my right
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>>56579591
Go away Poland.
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>>56579641
You're crazy
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>>56578283
1. It is difficult and expensive to obtain authorization to own a fully automatic weapon in the US.
2.The purpose of the Second Amendment is not hunting or to fend off a mugger.

The purpose of the Second Amendment is to give the people final recourse against a tyrannical government. The Founders knew that, eventually, all governments devolve into one form of tyranny or another.
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>>56579664
Can't we be friends, kikebro?
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shall not be infringed
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What's with this Jewish proxy shitposter?
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>>56579760
You're not even the real Russia
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>>56579460

Greatest kebab removing ally.
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>>56578283
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
/thread
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>>56579842
Nor are you the real Jews. I still like you, kikebro ^_^
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>>56579755
It even extends past government tyranny I believe

John Moses Browning made us all equal in 1911
You can be the biggest faggot on planet earth, a pathetic beta neckbeard, or a grandma taking her groceries in, if a motherfucker wanted to employ violence on you in a world without modern firearms there would be no recourse.
thats why darkages times were so shitty, whoever had the monopoly on violence had all the power

now that you dont need a strength advantage to kill a man you are more free then ever
its the personal level equivalent of mutually assured destruction
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>>56579460
>ak i literally removed kebab with
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>>56579755
>The purpose of the Second Amendment is to give the people final recourse against a tyrannical government
In which case you need helicopters and tanks
>but muh afghanis!
a bunch of mountain niggers shitting in a cave
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>>56578362

>country is getting keked hard by immigrants
>armed only with a plastic spoon

You couldn't resist getting bent over backwards, not that you'd want to anyway. Your masochism is your business but leave America and it's liberty out of it.
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>>56579959
How dare you, don't make me blame you for the holocaust
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>>56579889
>american says that Serbia is "best ally"
Mfw NATO fucking bombed Serbia
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>>56578727
nice try ahmed. Why don't you try to shoot up another one of our Muhammed drawing contests?

If you don't carry a rifle in the woods where I live you're asking to be grizzly food. I mean, you probably CAN stop a grizzly with a .45 but ill take my .45-70 gubmint every day.

>>56578961
the navy is a shit (minus muh-reens), Int the Army we actually learn how to shoot
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>>56580090
people misunderstand the whole "against government tyranny" thing

its less about a active revolution and more of a sticking point that implies that if the government does certain things it may prove costly to implement.

vs bongland where if for some reason the government wanted they could have local police enter every home and take your children and expect little or no resistance.
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>>56580099
It's ok, brah, you can say I participated in any number of fictitious events :^)
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>>56578283
shall
not
be
infringed
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>>56578727
Quick question German bro do you think you would've been invaded by 2 million Muslims this year if you were allowed to carry "assault rifles" like us?
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>>56578283
75% of gun homicides are committed with handguns. only 4% are committed with rifles.
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I just thought about something. An attempt to change the constitution or one of the amendments will cause a heavy shitstorm in the US. However, changes in the Oxford Dictionary of English are fairly common as words change all the time. Rather than changing the amendment, wouldn't it be easier to just change the Oxford Dictionary meaning of infringement?
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>>56580299
>its less about a active revolution and more of a sticking point that implies that if the government does certain things it may prove costly to implement.
Why does it matter what is in the constitution if you're advocating ignoring the rule of law when it suits you?
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>>56578283
>why on Earth would you need an automatic riffle?
becoz muh freedumbs and muh demockery
'Murika!
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>>56580566
You're a genius
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>>56580566
youre fucking drunk poland
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>>56578283 The US military couldn't even defeat al-Qaeda.
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>>56580599
all the "gun controll" hooplah you hear about is really just a loud minority in the US, we still have the highest number of private arms ownership and the government knows that.

Again its never really about a hypothetical revolution, we learned from the civil war thats a bad fuckin idea man.
The 2nd amendment supports all others, that's why it has such strong language, the amendments are a GUARANTEE of your rights one of which being your means of reminding the goverment that it enables that it cannot remove or impose unlawful changes to those without potential for loss.

yes you can point out patriot act and all the things you consider to be our government infringing on our rights and I would agree with you
but I am still much more free from my government then most others
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>>56578283
I can answer your question no problem OP.
You see this? This is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this thread? Nothing. OP, it has nothing to do with this thread! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending gun ownership, and I'm talking about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? OP, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're on 4chan deliberating and conjugating different races and nations, does it make sense? No! Anons of this supposed board, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
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>>56580996
When I was in Cali for an internship, I haven't met a single person who wasn't in one way or another supporting the gun ban. It shocked people when I said I was against it.
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FNC <3
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>>56581320
Cali does not count

pretty much Cali and NY are the no funs

but here in upstate NY we mange
fuck Cuomo
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>>56580126

We've bombed everybody.

Heck, we bombed the swiss, just for the hell of it. Great fun, good time all around.
Well not for the swiss but whatever.
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>>56581424
The problem with NYC and Cali is that it's a lot of foreigners trying to implant their own local laws in a land that's very foreign from their home countries.

>fuck the immigrants
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>>56581481

>doctor says:"you're too stressed, get an hobby"
>ifyousayso.jpeg
>get into bombs and stuff
>bomb nazi
>bomb japan (atomically)
>bomb asian reds
>bomb muslims
>bomb balkans
>mfw all the world calls us warmongers

Poor 'murricans
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>>56581213
this better be copypast
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>>56581822
I dont mind as long as those stay their containment zones

I wish the rest of New York state split from the city
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>>56581857
its from south park.
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>>56578633
>white girl looking menacing
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>>56578283
first of all "automatic rifles" are highly restricted
regular joes only have access to semiautomatic rifles.

Also the 2nd Amendment exists, so while guns may not be a big deal in other countries it's a big deal in the US. You may love or hate that, but it's still the law.

Let's look at the bulgarian constitution:
>Art. 52.
(1) Citizens shall have the right to medical insurance guaranteeing them affordable medical care, and to free medical care in accordance with conditions and procedures established by law.

Would you get defensive if people wanted to infrige that right?

Also the debate is heated because of previous stupid and ineffective legislation (Assault weapons Ban).

Lastly you don't need a high-caliber Rifle for a mass shooting. They CAN be used in shootings like in Paris or Utoya.
But think about your school - are there armed guards with bodyarmor that could shrug of a tiny pistol bullet? Or are there mostly defenseless children and unarmed adults that you could easily kill with a pea-shooter?
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>>56581846

If you only count the whites it's not so many.
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>>56582289
full auto is overrated anyway. the only real use is for suppression fire.

look at the paris bar video, the fucking kebab unloads and all he hits is fucking glass and walls

even in crowded area semi in the hands of a trained person would be just as good as going full auto..
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>>56582333

And the end that's the only thing people care about
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>>56578283
I assume someone will have pointed this out but
1. No one has been allowed an automatic rifle since before automatic rifles were invented
2. It's not called the Bill of Needs, you don't need more than two sets of clothes or one pair of shoes but it might surprise you but people that live in developed countries often have more than that.
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>>56582642

I'm saying we could do better.

...you're full of kebab aren't you Italy? Because of Merkel?
You...want some liberation?
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>>56578387
>tfw I will never be free as you are
Reeeeeee
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>>56582817
It's not like that, most of the immigrants just land in Italy, then they want to go to France, Germany or Scandinavia, very few stay here. Medias and some politicians make us believe that's a big deal but it isn't. The biggest issue we had with Europe it's that the other nations didn't want to help us with the mare nostrum operation
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>>56578283
>What do you need an automatic rifle for?

It's called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs
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>>56583135

So needings liberations and freedom from EU failings?

Time to break up the EU.
Get some good sunglasses. Nuke flashes can blind you.
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Have you ever fired an automatic weapon? It'seems just fun. The things are completely impractical, but who gives a fuck.

I can kill you just as easy with a 1911 as a fully automatic assault riffle
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