On here and various other boards, the topic comes up regarding users interest to form a new independent community with land and resources. I was thinking about this on the bus today, and there actually seems a way this is realistically possible in 3 complicated steps.
1. Organize a project team of wealthy investors who will fund the process of claiming the land, develop and ultimately live on it, as well as expert attorneys to deal with the politics (next post).
2. Make an arrangement with a viable separatist movement: We create a new organization for the movement which absorbs the existing ones, and negotiate their independence through peaceful diplomatic processes, under condition that we will be granted a specific piece(s) of their land as our own. Successor states to vast and diverse island colonies such as Indonesia and Philippines are one place you are likely to find such things other than in Africa.
3. Arrange for simultaneous independence and UN recognition of the new independent state whose case we funded, and our own. If having a fully sovereign nation is still not possible, or not desired, there are plenty of other less risky arrangements: Annexation by the United States and become a self-governing commonwealth, Compact of Free Association with USA or other existing country, where they are allowed to build military bases in exchange for protection and other benefits, or simply a privately governed island/city, micro-nation, special administrative region, or autonomous enclave within the newly independent parent nation.
There have been attempts to simply purchase sovereignty of land from poor countries and territories, but it never worked, but emerging along with a newly independent state is something that just might work. What do you think? Not that I actually have the means or the will to do this, just considering if its even possible.
Bumoing for interest
Link to last thread which got me thinking:
>>56532237
The problems is what will stop separatists to invade and claim your land before you get the recognition and protection.
You need your own army above all
>>56571697
*problem
>>56570249
I'm willing to bet if you'd get common sense involved, fuck ignorance you could start off building just an island and build an empire. There's too many people that realize what's going on and they do not want any part of it. It could very well be a possibility if you can find unclaimed land. That would be the major problem.
>>56570249
Lawfags aren't allowed on the island.
are there shacks situated around the island where we can breed females of various ethnicities?
I can't wait to see your guy's island become swamped by BLM activists.
>>56572258
If you build the shacks and bring the women of their own will I guess
>>56570249
I thought we were doing this to take over some shithole African country. Now its an island instead?
I will invest, but you faggots better be 100% Aryan and with no genetic defects if you want to be part of it.
>>56573653
different land mass every month.
I always thought it would be something like isla san benidecto
I'm happy to get the ball rolling with this
I will set up a website, add application forms and a discussion forum for approved members
We need money though. Can we raise enough for an island without overpopulating it?
I mean we could probably do it if 100,000 of us invested $10 but we need like 50 of us with $20,000 ideally
greece is selling tons of islands atm for paying their denbts
island of size in OP pic is about 2m$
if i sell all my shit in germany i can get like 200k
i guess with about 50 people should be possible.
mediterrainian is better than going somewhere in the pasific, since we can still get access to western products there, but there is a risk of refugees coming to our coast demanding wellfare
>>56575239
We wont be letting them anywhere near us - we will need a cheap speedboat to patrol our waters (itll be like 2-10k euro)
What laws would we have to follow? We need to somewhere with common law in place really
>>56575239
you are thinking about this the wrong way, get a grant from the government to use the land and keep tabs on the experiment, eg: post on 4chan. this could have happened several years ago if people actually wanted to. the island i pointed out has 6 people living on it and there is no reason its still idle if there is a satellite internet feed. it would be the grand experiment 2.0
>>56575418
well, we only accept whites, so we kinda don´t need laws, since no crimes
small coommunity of 50-100 people all know each other, guess we can handle it our selves and spot foul apples easily.
no need for prisons, whoever does something against the community will just be expelled from the island.
You faggots better win this shit.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/just-cause-3-dev-giving-away-an-entire-island-but-/1100-6430026/
>>56570249
only a /pol/ island could work would be free and unlimited gun laws and removal of degeneracy. (less freedoms), also no niggers, jews and mudslimes.
These are the basics. If you do not have these I would not even consider it.
>>56575723
a reasonable argument. so /pol/, /k/, and /g/?
/b/ shot on sight?
Off the top of my head I think we would need to do it by making a Private company, opening a private bank account
lets say we need 1 mill euro - issue 1 mill shares, everyone gets 1 share per euro invested.
The bank account is then used as the islands money reserves and for all trade. We would then take a 'wage' from that company, based on our shares
I have a relatively successful online business I would happily bring to the island
>>56575981
what currency?
>>56576099
If we're going Greek we'd need euros. I would prefer GBP though. We could use bitcoins too
We need a name for our new Country.
>>56575601
or tasked with breeding a good apple into the environment?
the burden of children to redirect?
Yeah Op. The problem here is that your little "utopia" is gonna be way more expensive than you envision and will entail a standard of life way lower than you will accept even if you form a sort of commune with your like minded internet buddies while being dependent on outside resources AKA "the world".
But its all gonna be great cuz you had a wet dream about it and that one anon said he would create a website for it...
Sorry bub, but living on an island with a bunch of your internet circle jerk buddies isn't going to be a magical experience.
>>56576211
As unstable as BTC is, it would be the best option due to 4chanina being well...borderless. if we could get /lit/ and /sci/ this clay could be ours. and we know enough to being shovels to make the lava flow to make more land and volcanic soil is good growing...well, anything
>>56576410
4chanina or Mootistan
>>56573768
I have 25% of the genes of a Lebanese immigrant who was a doctor in WWII under Gen. Patton. Fuck you. Otherwise, I'm all master race. Green eyes and brown air.
>>56575903
This is the bare minimum, seriously. There were plenty of retards here who had the "bright" idea to be liberal fuckwads who hate guns.
Well I do not want to live on an island where I could not own an artillery piece, or a flamethrower....or a fully automated .50 cal rifle. I also want to own a bearcat with a .50 cal or worse on top. You know what? I want to own an anti air emplacement. I want to own tanks and if it was affordable, I would like to own nukes.
Seriously, bare minimum.
Also the no-nigger, no-jew and the no mudslime is also the bare minimum. The extended laws should discriminate against street poopers, chinese, mexicans and all sorts of degenerate races. With taxes, with actual blatant law enforcement laws "no jaywalking for non whites" . I mean actual racism put into law books. All of it meant to only help the white race so that they make more children and reduce the mudraces children (free abortions for mudraces!), also longer prison sentences for them.
>mfw a mehmet under an european flag steal all the money
>>56576099
I say we bring back liquid silver. direct factions to various nations where it could have actual impact, exchange shit fiat for drain on treasury of shit nations.
We come to consensus on domestic value rate of exchange.
- Silver is low atm, will most definitely rise making holders (us) multiplicitly richer, as a nation.
still accept tourism funds for trade outside the community.
>>56576550
cultural communism?
im ok with this.
I also want to own a tank.
not that i cant in the US but the paperwork is hell. howerver, i know your pain, brother.
but if we had an island, those who wanted to live here would have to get here first. that would barrier one.
instead of jails, make them work the field. that would save money from wages and give jobs to the fuck ups. there is a way to save this.
>>56576876
we could also get old processors and get the gold out of them. its all in how you approach it.
>>56576410
Autismany
>>56576410
I say we go Greek if in the Mediterranean, blend better with cartographers. Do we have Anon proficient in naming planetary bodies?
>>56573768
well that's me
>>56576410
Neuschwabenland
>>56576550
Prison on paradise island, baka
why waste the space senpai, we could use the cages for beasts of grandeur, use the captives for food. Rome dude, it's that simple.
>>56576983
No, not communism, national socialism of course. But I feel like because we have a pretty nice amount of libertarians here who are quite nice to us. We should allow some measure of that implemented. We cant have it both ways but we can maximize the desires of both parties kinda.
What we will be taking from libertarians is their desire for open borders, for fair treatment, for non intervention. They wont be getting that because we will be discriminating against other races lawfully. We will be making sure that the borders are protected and that some measure of force against degenerate races is enacted.
They should eventually learn to live with it because they are white, so that means that they will mostly get what they want. Which is non limited gun/heavy weaponry rights. As long as they are white the government wont pry into their business transactions. But public displays of degeneracy will still be heavily published. Just not on the private properties. As long as they are white, drug usage will be somewhat overlooked as long as its not in the public.
Thats about it I guess.
>>56570249
>There have been attempts to simply purchase sovereignty of land from poor countries and territories,
sauce?
hey, just a thought, but there is a whole unclaimed continent out there.
if we buy island from a country we can´t make sure they just reclaim it as soon as we start own gouvernment.
why not use neutral terretory? Could get a bit cold, but if we can spend millions for buying an island, we might aswell use it for housing+windpowered heaters
Sounds unrealistic to expect to be recognized by anyone. At most, you could try to set up a farming commune in a suspended-conflict zone. I've heard that if you contact the embassy of Nagorno-Karabakh and give them proof that you're experienced in farming and maintaining land, they'll give you farmland for free, possibly also with Karabakh citizenship. It may also be possible to go to South Ossettia, Abkhazia or Transnistria, if you make agreements with their diplomatic missions: They control the territory but report back to nobody.
You could also go full Jim Jones and buy land in a remote country that nobody cares about like Guyana or Suriname (not French Guiana, the FFL will get you.)
>just playing armchair dictator here, Uncle Sam
Any of you guys ever hear of that billionaire who started a project like this? There was an unclaimed pacific island reef that he spend millions to add sand to, raise a flag and make a few platforms. By the time the flag was up, Tonga's military annexed it (not even sure Tonga had a military before the incident.) So the trick is to do it legally and not upset your neighbors.
>>56577512
I agree partial. i would think a true meritocracy would work best with the idea that all knowledge would be basically free. assuming that the NEET culture would not infiltrate the place, if you are wiling to learn a trade from a board and follow it to be useful then i have no issue with what you do. im a firm beliver that there are black people and niggers and you should know the difference, but a lot of that comes from a southern US up bringing. however, with a young country like this idea. if you are willing to till fields and fish you are still useful but there needs to be a more concise econ then "but its dirty."
i am in an odd spot to make any kind of decision as far as policy. the only thing i really think of is that if it can be a program it can be law, becase even something unthinking can understand it.
>>56578141
No, discrimination based on genetic markers is the only way to go. If I could decide it I would make it so that all trace of sub Saharan DNA is banned, alongside all jew DNA. Other races will also be indexed into a national registry if they desire to get to high positions. They are banned from government, and also banned from private corporations in high positions.
Islam would be banned as well and classified as terrorism.
Women would get no right to vote and would also be banned from governmental positions and/or high private corporation positions.
Over the years I collected quite a lot of idea's so I would have to dig them up again inside of my mind but yea, this is almost the basics.
Lmao I know I'm not accepted but at least can we trade :^)
I think it hilarious that some of you people actually think you could form a coherent, comfortable, government/society/collective, on a small resource barren piece of land somewhere.
Half of you would be crying for your vidya/wal mart/hot pizza pockets/urban conveinances in ten minutes, while the other half would be measuring each others guns in a pillbox wondering why no one takes you seriously cuz gunz.
>>56578476
That's how to do it
>>56578476
>f they desire to get to high positions. They are banned from government, and also banned from private corporations in high positions.
im still working on how to manage this. ill be back in 6 hours.
is there a title for these types of threads?
>>56571697
Burgers -> we needz gunz coz freedooom
So uhhh, where are the wealth/resources going to be generated on your little paradise island where you think anyone would want to live there or trade? Anything with significant natural resources is not going to be for sale.
So you and your buddies are going to do what exactly? sit around, finger your guns and decide what. Who should be let in? How you are going to pay for the vast amounts of food/fuel/materials you will require? Coconuts and grass skirts exports?
Now its basically an isolated expensive clubhouse and news flash. . . these already exist for super rich people.
You might as well just have everyone move to a little state/territory with very few people, organize politically and throw out all the natives. Although it's unlikely they would allow their population to increase by 51% solely through immigration in a short span of time. It might just be better to take over a shit hole no one cares about.
>>56577525
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Country_of_World_Peace#Efforts_to_obtain_sovereignty
>>56577615
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva_Reefs#Republic_of_Minerva
>>56579272
I said before I have a pretty successful online business I'd be happy to take over and we could all run. It could generate millions a year with enough skilled workers (Programmers, designers, copy writers, idea men)
>>56582778
What is it out of curiosity/envy?
>>56574811
just spam crowdfunding and say it's a social experiment.
