http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/
I've heard people say younger/tail-end Millennials are whiny PC bitches because they grew up with the Internet, and that if you cut out the older portions of this poll, the numbers would drop.
I was born in 1995. The only Internet we had was dial-up until 2007, most people I know grew up the same way. Even then, I rarely went on it; I mostly played outside. I remember using Netscape Navigator and watching 90s cartoons on TV. I remember using Mac OS 9 up until 07 as well.
Is 95-96 the last of the "old school" or first of the "new school"? Did I just barely dodge the bullet of "whiny PC college student"? I see most of this shit coming from freshmen (97 and up).
Makes you wonder what things will be like in 20 years. Will it even be recognizable?
Yeah I'm watching O'Reilly as well, OP
I grew up with the internet and it certainly did the opposite of making me a whiny PC bitch
I think the difference is these people think the Internet is tumblr and faceberg
I'm 30. Born in 1984. Man, I fucking hate millenials.
The world is going to hell. Bitch ass PC culture is taking over, and the world is going to be a Muslim majority by 2050. We're not going to make it.
My wife and I are both doctors. We're white and well off, but not rich. Not having any kids... going to enjoy my money and die rich as the world burns.
Just fuck my generation up senpai
Grow up. The entire developed world (no, America is not a developed country) accepts that hate speech needs to be restricted.
>people use their right to free speech to express the idea that we shouldn't have free speech
It's really insane. Lately I feel like this is some kind of parallel universe.
>>56562081
It's not just the internet. It's the upbringing.
Parents consent to anything their children say. At the same time, they overcontrol their lives, being literal hovercraft over them; a kid bullies them? They nose in and make a whole fuss about it, instead of letting their son/daughter deal with it on their own. They failed a test? Instead of helping them study or teach them about the subject at hand, they go and cry to the teachers about the 'damage' they're doing to their kid. Their kid gets sick? They treat it like it's some heart attack and spend half their savings on a measly flu.
And then these kids are exposed to the real world, and they hate it. Their parents can't help them anymore - they're either fed up by this point, or they simply can't. So they turn to authorities and, acting like the vocal minority that they are, pester and pester until they make sure they get their way.
The whole thing about "Baby Boomers" being deluded isn't a meme. It's true. They're so hung-up over mistakes they and their parents did, they have raised generations of retards and oversensitive manteens who will eat themselves very soon.
And we are alive to see it, for better or worse.
>Non-white, lefties, and women want more censorship
Expected.
>College grads don't
Wait what?
>>56562385
>the world is going to be a Muslim majority by 2050
this! this! this!
Instead of using warfare to take over a continent like men, they have to whine like bitches, stand behind PC addicts and reproduce faster.
Man, whatever happened to god ole fashioned warfare?
They'd have to repeal the 2nd amendment first.
>>56562212
I think there was a thread about this yesterday. I wonder if someone at Fox reads /pol/.
>>56562385
Your birthday's coming up, bro.
>Liberalism
>Limiting free speech
Pick one.
Abrogating free speech is a facet of fascism. Not that I mind. It'll be used against the fucking idiots who supported that change at the first opportunity anyway.
"B-but you're only supposed to do that against people I don't like!" Touch luck shitbird. This is the future you chose.
>>56562312
Same as this person. Born in '94 and I hate PC bullshit.
I think the PC people are the people who have been introduced to the internet around their teens and have discovered social media. Whereas most people on the internet before hand just don't give a fuck.
>>56562783
Fascist? UN treaties on rights bans hate speech. Your own country bans hate speech. Do you think your country is fascist?
>The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) states that "any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law".[10] The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD) prohibits all incitement of racism.
>The Dutch penal code prohibits both insulting a group (article 137c) and inciting hatred, discrimination or violence (article 137d). The definition of the offences as outlined in the penal code is as follows:
Article 137c: He who publicly, orally, in writing or graphically, intentionally expresses himself insultingly regarding a group of people because of their race, their religion or their life philosophy, their heterosexual or homosexual orientation or their physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by imprisonment of no more than a year or a monetary penalty of the third category.[52]
Article 137d: He who publicly, orally, in writing or graphically, incites hatred against, discrimination of or violent action against person or belongings of people because of their race, their religion or their life philosophy, their gender, their heterosexual or homosexual orientation or their physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by imprisonment of no more than a year or a monetary penalty of the third category.[53]
>>56563132
>UN treaties
>having any power
>>56562925
I'm from '85. I think it's the education system that poisoned entire batches with feelings bullshit and other crap.
It used to be when you were too stupid for college/uni or even high school, you were prepped for a trade job. Now everything is dumbed down because every retard has a right to higher education. With the massive influx of immigrants with most of them too stupid to even successfully complete highschool, things are getting worse and worse. That in addition to the most ridiculous degrees being concocted for said idiots which are a massive economic drain.
>>56563185
Doesn't matter. It represents the international consensus on hate speech. America is the only country that doesn't restrict hate speech. The rest of the world understands that restricting hate speech is necessary to protect the human dignity of their citizens and to preserve the conditions for democracy to work well.
>>56563132
>Fascist? UN treaties on rights bans hate speech.
UN has some sort of monopoly on what's fascist or not? Is it your reference to what's ultimately considered fascist?
>Your own country bans hate speech. Do you think your country is fascist?
My country is not fascist. The act of limiting free speech is a fascist act. Can you only think in extremes? Maybe look up the /pol/ chart and see which fallacy you are guilty of here.
>>56562385
>Not having any kids
Good luck with that. It'll only be a matter of time before "oopsie I'm pregnant" then she'll leave and you'll lose half your shit and be stuck paying child support for a kid that probably isn't even yours.
*I* want to limit free speech. Honestly. I really do.
But that's only logical. We don't allow people to terrify their neighbors with death threats. Or scream fire in a crowded theater. Or slander someone with lies. I think everyone can agree with me. It's just logical, yes?
It's the same thing. Well, not really. These whack jobs take it too far. They feel that emotional damage is every bit as wrong as hurting people in a stampede by yelling 'fire'.
It's literally stupid in my opinion but you can't argue against these people by shouting 'but free speech, but free speech!' because everyone already agrees that there are limits to free speech.
You have to argue with these people by proving that emotional harm is not something to be protected against.
>>56563499
We have a nice saying here. It's called rattling ovaries.
>>56563525
>It's literally stupid in my opinion but you can't argue against these people by shouting 'but free speech, but free speech!' because everyone already agrees that there are limits to free speech.
You can't argue with those people in any way. The only way is to give them what they want and confront them with their stupidity. Even then I have my doubts.
>>56563435
How can you call hate speech laws fascist when it's designed precisely to prevent fascism and other undemocratic ideologies from growing? You're making no sense.
>>56563525
The consensus internationally is that the right to human dignity supersedes the right of free speech in democratic societies.
>>56562385
>84'
tough shit bro, we're millenials by definition, though ill admit probably not at heart
>>56562731
no they will just vilify anyone anyone to the point that saying something even remotely-ever-so-slightly-potentially offensive will be socio/political/career suicide
oh wait we are already there
>>56562081
WHITES ARE THE MINORITY
WE ARE OUTNUMBERED 6 TO 1 ON THIS PLANET
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>56562081
'96 here. The "participation award" generation is finally coming to fruition. And the results aren't pretty.
Most NatSoc faggots also want to.
>>56563811
it's just a game of attrition. liberals cant cling to their ideals forever. the media just needs an excuse to cover a redpill topic. sure it may be partially spun to favor democrats, but once the information is out there we trust that viewers "read between the lines". it's a delicate procedure, plus editors/supervisors dont proofread EVERY word.
>the best articles are publsihed on thursdays
>>56562081
>non-hispanic whites ~ 60% of millenials
>40% of millenials want to ban free speech about minorities
>>56563719
You can only prevent fascism and other undemocratic ideologies by encouraging public discussion, which is effectively banned by 'hate speech' laws.
YOU are the one not making sense.
You are just banning shit because you don't like under the banner of stopping hate speech. And guess what's happening. More and more things are getting banned because some special snowflake's feels are trampled on. This is no different than what happens in a fascist state.
>>56564117
No, you prevent fascism by protecting the dignity of your citizens and preserving the feeling of solidarity and equality among your citizens. No, open discourse does not prevent fascism. Look at Donald Trump, an actual fascist. He's allowed to say horrendous things and some people are actually responding to it positively and getting stirred up to hate minorities because they're irrational.
>>56562081
Maybe they'll grow up. I was a liberal while I was a teenager too.
>>56564412
>He's allowed to say horrendous things
Oh no, did he hurt your feelings lad?
What horrendous things did he say? He didn't accidentally touch on some rather inconvenient truths you didn't want to hear did he?
Which part hurt you the most? Where he said illegal immigrants are breaking the law by being illegally in the US? Or the part about blacks being disproportionately more responsible for crime?
Here, why don't you enjoy some of the fruits your precious hate speech laws brings.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/18116-new-swedish-law-criminalizes-anti-immigration-internet-speech
In order to protect the feelings of minorities only state mandated opinions concerning immigration are legal in Sweden. Congratulations. Criticizing government policy is now illegal thanks to UN hate speech wizardry.
Like I said, one day those laws will backfire because it is your Swedish equivalent who is being silenced.
>>56564504
Churchill had some quote about it. If you're not a liberal by the time you're 20, you have no heart. if you're not a conservtive by the time you're 40, you have no brain. summat like that
>>56562718
are you fucking stupid? Warfare is coming...
We talk about a "stealth jihad" but what we're seeing is more akin to a "stealth people's war."
It follows the exact same model, whether intentionally or not. First, the Cultural Marxists cry victimhood, as we're seeing now. Then they slowly go on the offensive, where they start attacking so-called "hate speech" and other things that trigger so-called "microaggressions." Then, once they've got the academy under their slimy thumbs, they attack full-force and take over the institutions entirely.
>>56562081
>women, shitskins and retards have beliefs that are in line with the democrat party
the politically correctness jew has been pouring poison into the millenial's ears.
the future that used to be a terrible joke IS HERE AND NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHO1PprfmkY
>>56565571
>Then, once they've got the academy under their slimy thumbs
They already have this. Or haven't you noticed all the useful idiots who are suddenly on all kinds of key positions and educational boards introducing weird policies and idiot curricula? We have entire generations more interested in feelings instead of facts.
>>56562682
I saw it too. I think, that regardless of all the shit at colleges, they at least have enough of the "old-guard" that remember being silenced and know that free speech is a requirement for a civilized nation.
I think a lot of that "old-guard" has some chickens coming to roost right about now.
>>56565762
This has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with Jews.
The main people who push political correctness and Leftism are not Jews. They are atheists or satanists/Sabbateans. "Jewish Marxist" or "Jewish Leftist" is an oxymoron, because JUDAISM IS OPPOSED TO LEFTISM.
>>56565891
Not yet. We still have some good colleges left like Hillsdale and Liberty U. We are also seeing the right slowly emerge again.
>>56562682
do you actually believed the cuddled SJWs are smart and hard working enough to get a degree?
even shit degrees are too much for them
>>56566079
>Not yet. We still have some good colleges left like Hillsdale and Liberty U. We are also seeing the right slowly emerge again.
You claim not yet, but only have *some* good colleges left.
>>56566657
The stealth war ends once all universities have been taken over. As long as the right still has a few prestigious ones we can make a comeback.
>>56567224
I think it ends when the damage becomes apparent and the situation as a whole untenable.
We had to start giving mandatory Dutch and English classes in college because the proficiency in those languages were extremely poor. And they really are mandatory. If you fail freshman courses, you have to leave.
>>56562081
Christ, Europe's worse than I expected. And fucking Germany.
>>56563901
You're the same shit as people 2 years older/younger younger than you.
>>56567856
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
what the fuck is wrong with my countrymen?
>>56562081
50% of millennials are woman and 40% want to ban or limit free speech because muh feels. Oh and look its non white liberals too. Into the trash they go.
Now they expect men to marry up and pay for chads kid because they suck dicks for a living. God karma is going to be amazing in about 5-15 years when they are all obese cat ladies. I want them all to suffer so much :)
>>56569386
nazi guilt
>>56569990
>nazis where bad because they burned books and killed innoccents, so lets censor free speech and take away the children of those who disagree with me in order not to be one
>>56564412
Oh shut the fuck up. You lefitst love to use the word "fascist" when it has nothing to even do with the original term. It's just a slur, propagated by "people" like this leftist. These people NEED to be removed genetically if we as a species are to survive and advance. And they probably will be.
Good on them. Genuine free speech is a scam for chumps and idiots. If you want to say offensive things, nobody is going to stop you even now. You just to be prepared for the consequences and accept responsibility and ultimate risk.
Don't like blowback? Tough luck, that's what real free speech is about. SJW are just more passionate, committed, and organized.
As a NEET I enjoy watching both sides get hot and bothered, fighting over nothing important. All y'all can stay mad.
>>56562081
I was born in 88 and had the proto-type to PC going on which was just female teachers hating all boys and throwing ritalin at us and failing us if we wouldn't take it. Going back to college now for fun so I can appreciate modern day PC as well.
To be fair though in highschool I got bored of the teacher dancing around the racial issue in a book and walked up to the front of class and took her chalk and wrote every racial slur I could think of on the board, and when I ran out I had classmates join in. Few periods later in the day I found out I offended the black girl and had to apologize, felt sorry though as she was a pretty cool chick and I wasn't so jaded then. If I did that today I woulda been expelled no queries posed ya feel me familia?
>>56562655
You described my parents and me and my brother's upbringing perfectly. And the moment we were supposed to take responsibility we both fell flat on our face. I managed to recover, but my brother failed his studies for the third time now, and will probably enter permanent NEET life.
Never spoil your kids.
>>56564412
Leftists have been attacking Trump from the beginning.
>30 years from now these people will be on the Supreme Court
That's how long we have left before free speech dies in the US
>>56573713
That's what I mean when I talk of "stealth people's war." The endgame is the takeover of all institutions and the direct implementation of the cultural Marxist agenda.
>>56562081
This is because they were never taught about communist. Kids form the post soviet era don;t get how fucking horrible it was to live in a restricted society that dictated what you could think and say, and how lucky they are to not live in it.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Global Socialism 2.0 is around the next bend, and its going to be terrifying for the redpilled.
>>56574757
America will fall to socialism entirely unless we have a revival of rightist values.
I propose starting with the fallen Jews, as they are the ones who created critical theory. Get as many as possible to make shuvah. The Orthodox aka real Jews are against Leftism since Judaism is against Leftism.
I'm sorry that you're a fuckin pussy. We are NOT going to limit free speech because your faggot ass can't handle THE TRUTH.
>>56575969
literally "keep me posted" tier
>>56574884
>the answer is more jewishness
>the jews are against leftism!
I'd like to watch your family burn alive.
>>56576179
Where does Torah promote communism?
>>56562081
WTFFF
Born in 81. Grew up listening to true metal. 51k internet till I went to uni. Hitler did nothing wrong. And I still get lumped in with millenials???
>>56562081
>born in 1995
fucking hell, you're 18+.
I need to get my shit together.
>>56562385
>Not having any kids.
Literally destroying Western civilisation and killing white people.
>>56576972
destruction of the tribes of non-jews.
>>56562081
It kills me that non-white, uneducated women are heavily slanted toward taking away our 1st amendment rights.
Kek^kek (yes that's exponential kek)
>>56563366
>government steps in and literally stops people from breathing while vibrating their vocal chords in a certain way
>promotes human dignity
What?
>>56577564
Airwrecka sounds like a fucking Mad Max name.
>>56563366
Is this a trollpost?
Hate speech laws are universally derided as a method for governments to silence dissent.
>>56563366
Fuck off kekold
>>56563132
There's a difference between letting niggas know I think their lifestyle choice is degenerate af and telling people I want them to die.
>>56562081
>I was born in 1995.
you realize that makes you a millennial, right?
>>56577564
Isn't that the old greek pronunciation of eureka?
>>56572366
Dat ass tho. I hope she made it back home without being raped and murdered.
>>56578205
With an ass like that? Not happening.
>>56562505
get used to the fact that assholes exist and that it isn't the governments place to protect your sensitive ego from harsh words
>>56577867
No, you are ignorant. Hate speech is almost universally illegal. America is pretty much the only developed country that does not forbid hate speech. Go ahead and read the wikipedia article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech
>>56577837
women should never be allowed to name their child if they are a single mother
>>56562385
>Born in 1984. Man, I fucking hate millenials.
you are a millennial sperglord, the cuttoff year for gen Xers is 1982.
>>56578460
Some limits on expression were contemplated by the framers and have been read into the Constitution by the Supreme Court. In 1942, Justice Frank Murphy summarized the case law: "There are certain well-defined and limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise a Constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous and the insulting or 'fighting' words – those which by their very utterances inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace.
In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group.
>from the wikipedia article
>it sounds like hate speech is illegal in the US
>>56562081
> Republicans more in favor of free speech than Dems.
Conservative revival when?
>>56578664
The most brilliant thing the jews did was broaden the definition of millennial so we would have retards like this fighting and arguing instead of focusing on what's important.
>>56562081
On a positive note, it seems that those who finished college are MORE likely to support free speech. Maybe it's not so brainwashing after all.
>>56578886
That might just mean white people are more likely to complete college.
>>56578460
Your entire argument is "speech I don't like should be against the law".
My entire argument is "no, all speech should be permitted so long as it doesn't immediately create a physical danger".
You idiot fucks need to realize that if you get your way and get the 1st amendment neutered, there will eventually be people in power who use that to oppress you. Not the fictional oppression that the BLM fucksticks and feminist / SJW assholes scream about. Real oppression - where a cop arrests you for having a political opinion.
>>56562549
>Lately I feel like this is some kind of parallel universe.
That's the concept behind psychological warfare.
It's not Jews you should be looking at, jokes or otherwise: it's the Muslims. They're paying "Jews" to be traitors.
>>56579019
Yeah, Europe is so oppressed with their hate speech laws. Oh, wait. They're more free than we are and have better functioning democracies.
>>56579262
Since when did we have a democracy in the US?
>>56579262
You can climb on top of a tree here with an AR-15 and scream 'I hate the government. I hope the government comes to harm. I am a liberal/conservative'.
Try that in Europe and see what happens to you.
>>56579262
I can get face-sitting porn, question the Hallofcost, criticize backwards practices of religions, and mock celebrities without fear of libel suits in 'Murrica.
>>56562081
Omg I'm a millenial.
>>56579262
Except our countries are literally being invaded by millions of our ancient enemies who are raping and murdering us in thousands, our culture is being destroyed and our people are being replaced. And there's nothing we can say, let alone do about it.
>>56579382
1. You have a narrow conception of liberty. Europe may restrict some of those libertarian rights, but they provide positive liberties that America doesn't guarantee.
2. Even if you just measure negative liberty, America can't be said to be more free relative to Europe when you consider that it has the highest incarceration rate in the world.
>>56562081
When this happens democracy will be officially dead.
This is what you get when you get more non whites lol.
>>56579999
>they provide positive liberties that America doesn't guarantee
Such as? Social safety nets don't require 'hate speech laws' or any other limits on speech, so don't try to use this.
>Even if you just measure negative liberty, America can't be said to be more free relative to Europe when you consider that it has the highest incarceration rate in the world.
Again, this has nothing to do with 'hate speech' laws. I agree with you that our incarceration rate is ridiculous and that our government and law enforcement system is out of control when it comes to incarceration. THE ANSWER IS NOT MORE LAWS TO PUT PEOPLE IN PRISON FOR SAYING 'NIGGER'
>>56579809
You're insane. Immigrants don't murder you and replace you. They come here to work and co-exist with us. They're saving Europe by raising your birth rate to a sustainable level.
>>56580245
The birth rate is falling because of feminist policies that fuck over men in relationships and fuck over husbands and fathers.
The same exact thing will happen when all the immigrants start getting fucked over by those same policies.
>>56562081
>40% of millenials are non-white
Well, that wraps that one up.
>>56580245
What is the work statistics for mudslimes and gypsies?
'97 here. Considering suicide as time goes by and you clear-headed folk begin to pass on. There's no way my adulthood will be in a comfortable world.
>>56579262
> Vote pro EU or vote pro EU
Look if you have 2 parties in a parliament that are pro EU, and an opposition that is also pro EU you don't have an opposition. We have like 6-7 parties that are so much like each other that they only try to differ in appearance and figureheads. Then you have some ''far right'' party who is against Mudslimes and it's isolated and deemed retarded by media.
It's fun since these kid of parties have no far right economic policies at all, the media is retarded and keeps placing them along with 25-35% of the population in the nazi bracket.
EU countries don't have ''better'' democracies. We also have insurance companies buying 2-3 people in parliament to vote for them on issues. But nobody is buying these parties for the people. You get funded as political party by companies and thus have to pander to their interests, not to the interests of the lower / middle class.
That's why every form of democracy that is currently active in the world is dysfunctional. The only thing that keeps things is check is fundamental human rights otherwise everything would be a giant mess. You already see it that with law, it is very subjective and there are a lot of laws favouring business, those are made by parliament. And parliament is bought.
Thus you have unfair parliament not for its people and you have an unfair law. Democracy is an illusion.
>>56577027
'88 here. No internet until I was 14. In my view nobody has the right to not be offended. People should be held accountable for actions, not words.
Yet I'm lumped in with these beta 'muh feels 'faggots. Fuck this shit.
If you were born in 1995 then you haven't used netscape navigator, it was gone by the year 2000.
I also refuse to believe anyone used dialup until 2007 in fucking america, when we slavs all switched to broadband connections by the year 2002, at which point I did not know anyone who would use dialup.
So you're full of shit, you're a full blown millenial, stop calling yourself 90's kid when you don't remember the nineties at all
>>56562081
Well, now that WWIII has kicked off, I can't wait for that 40% to be drafted.
Can you just imagine these faggots in combat?
>>56580662
Rural America has worse Internet than rural Eastern Europe.
>>56580245
>They're saving Europe by raising your birth rate to a sustainable level.
you can do that with natives too very easily if you stop blasting destabilizing propaganda everywhere
>>56562081
I was born in 1990. People from 1992 onwards seem to be in with the PC crowd from my observation.
>>56580682
"Stop shooting, we need to make sure they consent to us being here first."
"We should tweet only, weapons are a tool of the patriarchy."
"Running is so ableist. We need to show the world that fats can fight in wars too."
>>56580245
i just want to add that its far from coincidental that the three countries with the lowest birthrate are the former axis powers germany italy and japan
>>56562081
You're still technically a teenager, and are the very problem with the modern world.
Sitting on the internet and whinging about "I remember..." is reserved for people at least 30 years old.
You're everything wrong with your generation, you little whiny internet bitch.
>>56580785
nah faggot you're a millennial, every fucking millennial wants to say they aren't millennials so they don't have to take responsibility, you're a fucking millennial faggot and so is every other faggot born in 1990
>>56562081
Millennials are very left-indoctrinated. and leftists are world's biggest fascists, no surprise here.
>>56578836
Listen to the Spaniard, /pol/.
