This board is so blue-pilled it hurts.
Noam Chomsky is a leftist though so I refuse to read or entertain any of his ideas since they are contrary to my preconceived notions.
>>56559577
didn't this dude support Chairman Mao and the Sandinistas? talk about crushing the people
>>56559577
commie faggot, that is continually wrong. He's a linguist that thinks he is somehow able to comment on things completely out of his realm of understanding.
>>56559577
>someone quoted him
>so he must be right
>>56559577
Left out playing Santa or Robin Hood.
They work wonders at dividing people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NajQTN9qhXg
Chomsky is based. Watch him completely destroy lolbertarian idealogy.
>>56559577
Or maybe it's the opposite of what Noam says, and rallying everyone around some puritanical utopian notions are how you organize people so you can crush them? I mean, that's what Marxists do.
>>56560256
>private tyranny
lol top kek, you do know a transaction with a company is voluntary not like the government which uses force.
How can i be blue-pilled when i'm voting for based Trump?
>>56561664
Most blue pilled candidate to vote for.
>>56560457
>chomsky
>puritanical utopian
>>56561993
>guis we can make a commie society
>wit no government
fuck off shill.
>>56559577
>you can only fight one enemy at once
you are one dumb mother fucker
>>56559577
Communism should be included in that list.
>>56559577
Why does it matter?
>>56560762
>I need food
>chad has taken all of the food
>chad, give me food
>sure, that'll be $400 dollars
>that's absurd
>you have a choice, I'm not forcing you to buy the food
you do understand that force isn't always physical in nature
yes people who use these buzzwords to silence opposition do indeed intend to destroy the populace.
>>56560762
> country owned by corporations
> demand you pay rent to live on their land
>>56562333
Fucking this. Sucking Marx's cock isn't red pilled.
The biggest mistake this board makes is blaming Jews. There are conservative Jews who support strong moral foundations and traditional values (Ben 'makes Kikes look alright' Shapiro comes to mind). The real enemy of the West is communism in all its forms. People fixate on the fact that most of the people involved in the Frankfurt School were Jewish, when personally I feel that's just a smokescreen which gives plausible deniability to the cretins behind cultural marxism.
>implying jingoism isnt what we need
>>56563434
>inb4 JIDF
>>56563434
>The real enemy of the West is communism in all its forms.
>>56559932
Chomsky and Alinsky are the two names you should dread. They are what created the modern liberal movement.
>>56563621
"If you like your insurance, you can keep it."
>>56563621
>save millions of dollars
Citation fucking needed
I'm taxed at 47%, and I make less than $60k. If I wasn't taxed so damn much to pay for the universal healthcare my nanny state forces onto me, I could afford private insurance, and so could everybody else.
Monsanto is trying to take over seed production.
one day Monsanto might get a cut from everything that's grown in North America. but everyone will be free to get their food from somewhere else
>>56563434
with you on that.
>>56559577
Their was always something about him that I couldn't quite articulate until I found this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Anti-Chomsky_Reader
chomsky is an anti american terrorist apologist, who constantly paints the usa as the greatest evil ever while conveniently forgetting about everyone else.
i remember watching an interview with him where he was asked to comment on the arab spring in Egypt, he said nothing about it and went off on some tangent about how evil the usa was in the Spanish american war over 100 fucking years ago
>>56559932
Even if that were true, it has no bearing on whether or not what the quote is saying is true.
>>56560043
He's also a respected philosopher and politics is within the realm of philosophy.
>>56560091
I agree that we should attack arguments, not the people making them or any other irrelevant basis.
>>56560240
How so?
>>56560457
I think you're right to the extent that communists moralize, you're right. The things Chomsky mentions are also forms of moralizing. But, moralizing isn't necessary to communism.
>>56562251
I think you misunderstood the quote.
>>56562333
Marxism can be dangerous but it isn't too widespread as far as issues used to divide people go.
>>56562466
Because if you're a person getting crushed, you might like to know.
>>56563758
I think you exaggerate their role.
>>56563823
That's assuming that privatization wouldn't raise the costs which seems to be the case in the US, or there's at least a correlation.
>>56559577
>t. marxist "anarchist" jew who has supported all of those things when it benefited him and his ethnic group
Why should I support others just because we typically share the same number of chromosomes? All that gives life meaning creates divisions between men.
>>56564267
Care to provide an example?
>>56564150
>respected philosopher
"colorless green ideas sleep furiously", look at me I'm so RANDOM, REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>56564150
>competition raises costs
Don't you have to be 18 to use this site?
>>56564073
Because everybody already knows how fucked up or non existence institutions are in the non-western world. But sometimes we close our eyes to our own systems of oppression, thus he feels the ethical responsibility to speak about politics. He didn't have to, and he probably shouldn't as he was one of the most important scientists of the second half of the XX century.
>>56559577
He left out progressivism and social justice.
>>56564462
Political correctness and identity politics is clearly encompassed on religious fundamentalism. It just wasn't really an issue already when he wrote this.
>>56564362
Supported Mao, Pol Pot, gun ownership restrictions and the Federal Reserve.
Thinks blacks dindunuffin and that white racists is the biggest issue in america.
He's your typical marxist kike.
>>56564358
>Why should I support others just because we typically share the same number of chromosomes?
Having the same number of chromosomes isn't why you should but I suspect that you have interests in your life that you wish to pursue as well as interests to your life that are more background interests like developing as a healthy individual bodily, mentally, and intellectually. Other people are often key to fulfilling these interests and, often times, their involvement necessitate that they have certain interests fulfilled. For instance, I can learn more, and thereby grow intellectually, from someone who has had certain opportunities for knowledge. I thereby have an interest in fostering the intellectual development of others. Physically, I'm much safer as a human when those around me aren't ill. To that extent, I should support the health of those around me. I could continue.
>>56564365
Quoting words, followed by, irrelevant, what I can only assume you take to be commentary on the quote doesn't provide evidence one way or another for anything.
>>56564390
Competition under certain circumstances does raise costs. You can pretend I'm underage if it helps you feel better when you see beliefs that trigger you.
>>56564794
How exactly do the things you listed benefit Chomsky's ethnic group as you claimed?
>>56564750
>the PC brave and tolerant crowd are religious fundamentalists
What the fuck are you saying
>>56564750
It certainly was an issue in the 60s when niggers where storming college halls with rifles and throwing bricks through the professors room windows? Chomsky's ilk have always defended those savages, they made much of their careers on their scorched ground.
>>56564365
or "Is The Man who is Tall Happy ?"
He wrote those phrases as a linguist not a philosopher. But yeah he pretty much pioneered the field so hes work was philosophic in a way.
Not understanding the significance of those phrases is like not understanding the basic laws of motion.
>>56559577
If you're of the opinion that there is a certain group that is working to dominate the planet under a government comprised of only 1 group of people of which most people of /pol/ aren't part of, then yes you're very right.
>>56563823
>>56563621
US healthcare is fucked up. It's not a free market. It's like the worst parts of government interference and the worst parts of crony capitalism combined to make the most bloated, inefficient system imaginable. Then Obama's brilliant solution, to take money from tax payers and give out to insurance companies - apparently because Medicare didn't make the medical industry greedy enough already.
>>56563774
Doctors on retainer actually makes a whole lot more sense than paying them for each service. Doctors should be incentivized to be efficient in curing patients, as things are right now, there's no accountability in actually treating people.
>>56564949
They obviously aren't religious fundamentalists by definition, but the point is that they have the same sort of dogmatism and destructive ideals as fundamentalists. There are a lot of people on the left who hate identity politics and Chomsky is one of them.
>>56559577
>Comsky
>Red-pilled
>>56564949
If you think about it for a moment instead of just laughing at the memes it is religious fundamentalism.
>>56564864
In a market flooded with ready consumers, you generally need to lower your prices in order to compete. Explain to me exactly how raising your prices makes you more attractive to consumers, because I think you're full of shit.
>>56565107
Not to mention medical professions are now being forced to do defensive medicine, because ambulance chasers are a fucking thing. Hell, many politicians support those kinds of practices, because they are part of that same lawyer clique.
>>56565107
>there's no accountability
Confirmed for not knowing what you're talking about
>YOURE ALL SO BLUE PILLED, LISTEN TO THE JEW TELL YOU ABOUT HOW DIFFERENCES ARE SHIT COMBINE AND MAKE THE MALATTO GOOD GOYIM FUCKERS
nah
>>56564864
>Competition under certain circumstances does raise costs
Wrong. You're thinking of an oligarchy (think OPEC), not a competitive market.
>>56565114
well yeah, but that's just dogmatism, and is by no means exclusive to religion.
>>56564926
>How exactly do the things you listed benefit Chomsky's ethnic group as you claimed?
How are they not?
The destruction of natives and their ability to protect themselves from globalist cocksuckers like him and the other marxists and jews.
>posting chompsky seriously
>>56564864
I swear the flags are backwards this time around.
>>56565349
The word is mulato fag.
We came up with it and we still use it to refer to machiatto looking people because we don't have to dwell with your social frictions and taboos.
>>56565313
Raising your prices in instances of collusion greatly increases profits while having no affect on attractiveness. It the obvious business decision for a person who can get away with it.
>>56565416
That's why the other anon suggested we not limit it to what you're considering religion. You're arguing over a matter of what name to give to something that you both agree is the same.
>>56565417
Ah, he's benefited because of mass jew conspiracy. In that case, you could provide literally anything as evidence of that because you've already bought into an unfalsifiable conspiracy theory.
>>56565613
>Raising your prices in instances of collusion greatly increases profits while having no affect on attractiveness.
This is called an oligarchy and that doesn't exist here in the USA; we have "monopolistic competition" at best. You're a retard.
>>56565337
What kind of accountability are you talking about? I know about tort law and ambulance chasers, but that's not what I'm talking about.
What I meant is that there's nothing to stop inefficient use of resources or ineffective practices, consumers are in the dark about what they're getting and so hospitals can do whatever and charge them whatever.
>>56565699
>This is called an oligarchy and that doesn't exist here in the USA;
>Being this blue-pilled
I love how /pol/ has become so eager to suck their overlord's cocks in the past year.
>>56565613
But adding competition makes those instances less likely, and keeps competitors on their toes. The most competitive an environment, the less opportunity a single competitor will have to price gouge. I don't see how increasing competition facilitates the kind of business model you're talking about.
>>56565833
Cool sources, Chavez.
>This is called an oligarchy and that doesn't exist here in the USA
So Mcdonalds, Hardees, 5 guys, etc are colluding in order to fix the prices of their burgers? Stop being a moron.
>>56564864
>Competition under certain circumstances does raise costs.
You misspelled demand.
>>56565699
>This is called an oligarchy and that doesn't exist here in the USA
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/21/americas-oligarchy-not-democracy-or-republic-unive/
>>56565934
>So Mcdonalds, Hardees, 5 guys, etc are colluding in order to fix the prices of their burgers
We were talking about health insurance, not burgers. Pay attention. I know it can be hard.
>>56565968
No one is talking about demand, we're talking about the state of the demand and the nature of the supply if it were privatized.
>>56565561
Yes but you're portugal.
>>56562630
Sadly, few do
>>56566054
This has nothing to do with the economy and barriers to entry as far as operating a firm is concerned. That's just some progressive hypothesis perpetuated by butthurt Bernie voters because he can't afford a superpac.
>>56560256
What a statist fuckhead.
>>56562630
>chad has been given a monopoly on food through government regulation
>>56566145
With socialism, the food just flies into your mouth I hear.
>>56566366
>Chad is also losing tons of money for bad business practices from that government regulation.
>>56566090
>We were talking about (private) health insurance
They face the same market pressures (competition) that burger joints do. If you're going to presume they're colluding under the current laws, you have to extend that to every other burger joint, real estate firm, etc. Of course you can't because that's retarded and if any sort of proof is uncovered by a competitor, that's grounds for a lawsuit that can sink a fortune 500 company.
>>56565699
Nigga everything is within the framework of "Monopolistic Competition" nowadays.
The old text book example used to be Restaurants. You can choose amongst many in your city but there is always one that offers something in particular that you are looking for.
Hence there is no true "competition" and that wierd phrase is used "monopolistic competition"
Most of the largest enterprises fall on this category now:
Telecom
Media software
Pharma
Energy
Massive Gross Retail like Walmart and fashion conglomerates like Inditex.
The largest bulk of the economy comes from sectors where there couldn't be any competition, either because there are too much barriers to enter the market on the first place or because everybody is producing a unique good.
Im all for freedom and "capitalism" way but we reached a technological stage where those competition memes simply don't apply as they did during the Industrial Revolution.
>>56566457
It could, if we wanted it to, but I suspect we'll have better things to do.
>>56564461
>scientists
are you fucking kidding me?
>>56559932
Yep Noam Choamsky is literally a fucking GateKeeper.
Appears to give the absolute truths but denies the goyim the ultimate truth on the synagogue of satan
>>56566090
>makes a claim an oligarchy exists
>oligarchy is defined by leaders in a market working together to price fix
>gets a point made that the definition is not met
>claims he's still right because of unfalsifiable reasons
>Insinuates the guy he's arguing with is retarded
>and is actually retarded
PICK ALL
Oligarchy is not ruling class
Oligarchy is not "wealth=power"
You might have a good argument, but your definitions are shit, and then you need to be able to prove that health insurance companies are colluding rather than competing.
>I'm a health insurance company that lobbied against ACA because it would ruin my chance to grab market share
>I'm totally in an Oligarchy though lol
You're fucking retarded
>>56559577
I'm glad he said jingoism instead of nationalism. That I agree with. And I often agree that sometimes people stir up this kind of rhetoric to use people, however that doesn't make it bad. I could write more but chomsky is a 6/10, good on some stuff, but a gatekeeper and doesn't go into a lot of other stuff.
>>56565613
>Raising your prices in instances of collusion greatly increases profits while having no affect on attractiveness. It the obvious business decision for a person who can get away with it.
Holy fuck how retarded can you be? Have you ever taken high school macroeconomics?
>>56566998
>He doesn't know that with low barriers to entry that an upstart competitor can easily swipe oligarch business
>He doesn't know that oligarch businesses face extreme pressure for a member to "cheat"
laughinggirls.jpg
>>56565107
>curing patients
Your providing a service not a result, there can't really be much accountability other than your own honour.
One more reason for healthcare to be highly regulated by all of us. Physicians were mostly attracted by the nature of the job and the social status it brought, not the shekels. I prefer it remains like that.
>>56559577
Chosmky, like his father Satan, is an accuser of saints.
Point out the imperfections of the greatest to draw attention away from the degenerate actors in the world.
>>56568316
America are not saints man, not even close. That's like a sean hannity tier opinion.
>>56568670
The conservative vision of a free, small-government America with traditional moral values is pretty fucking saintly. This is the America that commies want to crush.
>>56568670
america is literally the greatest civilization that humans have ever created, and leftists want to tear it down. What a fucking disgrace.
pol is now politically correct
>>56562630
maybe you should try Mark instead or growing your own food.
