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>bootlickers will defend this
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They want paid leave and then they wonder why they don't get paid as much as males.

Ok.
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>i want to be paid equally with less hours of work
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Isn't the problem with the US being a federation of states and all?
The federal government can't enforce paid leave universally, it's up to the states legislatures to do it?
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>>56520945
>>56520877
Daily reminder that most European countries are changing paid leave to "parental leave", which means dads and mothers have equal right to it.
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Just because it isn't government mandated doesn't mean mom's don't get maternity leave. A lot of companies offer paid leave for moms.
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>>56520443

>Mandated paid leave and Paid leave are the same thing

I guarantee most bitches who actually deserve it get their full year.

Couldnt care less that nogs dont get free pay.
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>trying this hard to get Hillary supporters to his side
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>>56521140
It's nice to hear you're doing something about the abysmal birthrate that isn't demographic suicide.
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>>56521177
B-but anon, McDonalds doesn't offer 24 weeks paid leave!
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>>56521060
our country was founded on local governments having bigger say than the fed. Its the reason we wanted to be our own nation so that the people had control of who was in power. But over the years democrats have continually voted away our powers in favor of a huge federal overhead in exchange for dem gib me dats benefits.
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>>56521346
It's better than having Mexicans and Niggers as the solution.
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>>56520443
sure, then mama dindu can just have litter after litter while you be a good boy and pay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GApbGZiKa4
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in 2013 my mother was given paid maternity leave. Why do women claim they don't have paid leave?
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>>56520443

>paying women to get pregnant

Yeah, naw.
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>Both new parents have the right to take parental leave of up to 35 or 37 weeks of unpaid time off work.

this is what we have.
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>>56521140

It already happened here. Felt good to spend a week playing baby games with my new baby.
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>>56521391
Too bad your government decided that syrians were the solution.
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>>56520443
They have no government mandated paid leave.

If that's important to you, find an employer that offers it.
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>>56520443
Maternity leave is bad. It encourages taking off a few weeks and then going back to work and putting the kid in daycare. A woman shouldn't work outside the home, she should focus on raising her children.
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>all these bernie shills today

please go away, you people are retarded
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>>56520443
Of we REALLY cared for our mothers, government would have never encouraged women to enter the workforce to begin with so they could ALWAYS be home for their children.
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>>56521618
No, that's the EU shilling.
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>>56521784
>trumpkek calling anyone else retarded
le build le wall xdddd amirite?
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>>56521391
Naw, I'll take the Mexicans and niggers over the Snackbars.
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>>56520443
That's very misleading. Many American companies offer paid leave, there is just no law requiring it.
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How do Bernie shills feel that Hillary is going to get the Nom, and that their free everything cheer leader will be back to living as an irrelevant bag of shit by the end of next year?
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>>56520443
lol he knows the nation can't handle offering the same to men as well. It would cripple our economy and take to whole thing to post cold war Russia levels. What a cunt. His whole platform is just half measures and bullshit.
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You don't need laws to enforce this shit, if the woman was a valuable asset to the employer they would and already do provide it.
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>>56520443
>responsible enough to raise children
>too poor to take off work

Libtards are fucking useless, if you're that poor, pull out.
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>>56520443
This is why were #1!!!!
USA USA USA!!!!
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>>56520443
>bootlickers
everytime i see this term used it makes me think of some edgy 14 year old anarchist
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>>56520443

Since when is maternity leave a woman only thing? This is sexist and discriminatory, men are just as able to take time off with their newborn as the woman in 2015.

How does this sexist bigot get off thinking he can just pretend that issues facing society are now "womens issues"

Theres no such thing as a womans issue, I can be a woman if I want just by waking up in the morning and deciding Im a woman, this is 2015, wheres my maternity leave, Im a trans-parent, I dont have a kid but Id like to think that I do and that means I deserve benefits.
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>>56520443
I always hear companies that offer time off, like Google and NetFlix, employees are actually competitive with each and try to kiss as much ass as possible, so they really don't take time off
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>>56520877
Someone has to raise your kid not to be a faggot.
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>>56520443
it's the employer's decision on how much paid leave to give, not the govenment's to regulate it.
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>>56521388
Pretty much this. Ideally, a state would decide what it wanted to do, based on the population voting in repesentatives to enact laws that would affect their own state. However, since the late 1800s, early 1900s, the size and power of the federal government has drastically increased, in order to impose one-size-fits-all approach to governing. As a result, a lot of BS occurs on the national level, instead of it being contained within a state or even a district.

So to put it this way, CA had all the right in the world to demand companies give paid leave, while AZ says companies can do whatever it wants. However, the big distinction is that it is not the feds demanding one way or another for every single state.
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>>56521406
That's why you don't stop there American-senpai.

You have universal healthcare so those lower social-econimic braket welfare moms have their children inside the system, where unnoficially physicians and social workers do their best to push birth control onto them when they start "overbreeding" (not just pills, but IUD's, subdermal implants, on older women even prepare for tubal ligation if they are followed in gyn/ob services [which btw, very low socio-economic are consired as criteria for risk pregnancy and thus enables management in that setting]).
Also, social workers check on those (low income, low IQ) types after discharge.

So stop shilling for Muh Capitalism and embrace that SOME socialism is good for society.
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>>56522150
So who raises the kid after the 26 weeks?
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there is a balance there, he is right. no parental leave is actually insane
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>>56522353
Schools
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>>56522295
>Implying the masses always knows what's right (not for them, but the Greater Good) on fields way out of their education range...
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>>56521836
>hating Bernie means I support Trump

Not even that guy but what?
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>>56521864
>>56521935
>>56520443
It's not that at all. He's trying to cow tow to the female vote.
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>>56522150
>not to be a faggot
Women are the reason there are so many soft faggots these days. I am not having kids, but if I did I would definitely insist on raising him or her. If it is a boy and raised by a modern woman he will turn out to be some soft little faggot, if it is a girl she will turn out to be a dick cramming whore.
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>>56520443
>Give women 26 weeks of paid maternity leave
>Companies now have even less reason to hire them

Either you give paid leave to both parents or neither.
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>usa is third world country
more news at 20:00
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>>56520443
Wow, is he suggesting that whiter countries respect mothers more?? What a racist!
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>>56522386
The federal government is also stuffed with people who think they know what they're doing, but it ends up being just trying to usurp power to themselves. If someone goes power happy in a state, it's only contained there, instead of nationwide.

Also, who gets to decide what is "The Greater Good"?
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>>56521140
It's the same for Canada. The father or the mother can take the leave for the child.
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>>56520443
>bootlickers

WAT

People want the government to give paid leave. Why would those against that be the "bootlickers"?
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>>56520443
it's no surprise that americans are all mentally retarded and ill because they were neglected as babies.

lel even russia is doing better EVEN north korea HAHAHAHAHA
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>>56522508
In germany u can choose who stays home but only 1 can.
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>>56522137
If you want to know, the maternity thing has been a deal since the early 1900s, and even Lenin got the women to join up in his revolution by promising that kind of shit. Never really implemented it, and like with most rulers, put it off heavily and pretty much used commie feminists to push an agenda on a promise
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>>56520443
>all of Africa has better care for women

Lol this is about as believable as global warming
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>>56521140
We had this since fall of ussr
Euros are behind us on socialism olympiad again
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>>56520443
>women in Africa get a better deal than women in America
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>>56522368
No parental leave is good. If she's having children she shouldn't have a job, she should be raising her children, which she can't do if she goes back to work after a few months.
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>>56522023
> Implying Natural Family Planning methods have a low rate of failure (well, to be fair, they can be quite good, with studies reaching over 90% efficacy on PROPERLY EDUCATED couples)

Improve access to free birth control (many generic pills are extremely cheap anyway)
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>>56520443

China has paid pregnancy leave?
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>>56520443
yes why dont you give single moms more incentives! sound like a good plan
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>>56521527
>with my new baby.
Coming from Mexiko I can't judge if that's your baby or you simply took it from José after you cut off his head.
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>>56522638
You can't split up the time off between parents? That would seem to be much more fair
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>>56520443
Is that the legal minimum or the average? I know the average US worker gets around as many paid vacation days as the average European or Canadian worker, even though the legal minimum is lower, so it could be the same deal with maternity leave. I looked on the BLS site but couldn't find any stats.
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>>56520443
>let me pay you to have a kid

How does that make any sense?
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I wouldn't be such a problem if the only people living in america were either white or asian..

But how the fuck can you give Tyrisha free money for to do the only thing she knows how to do??
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>>56520443
>y-you bootlickers
>please expand government power
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>>56522508
Funfact, we have congé parental for the father.
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>>56523015
It would make more sense than bringing in Muslims to prop up the population
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>>56522540
One topic which seems relevant to your previous post is that, in a bipartisan system, the 2 conflicting parties tend to radicalize further apart (at least in fringe topics), which tends to generate a sucession of cycles of winners and losers who continously exchange the seat of power, leaving the rest of the population (be it a a relatively large minority or a relatively small minority unrepresented). And that's what shocks me most about the American system, the validation that the "losers" deserve to be left out because they have lost in a poll...
In a multipartisan system, this doesn't happen as often.
>INB4 Implying there's such a thing as a better political system (and if such a thing existed, it would be approppriate for every civilized country in the world)

(Of course in overly simplifying but still, i hope my point gets across)
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>>56523015
It should be the other way around. Majority of people who have tons of kids have an IQ lower than 100. You should be paying idiots to not have babies by making them cut their nuts off.
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>>56520443

Okay. we can give women 26+ weeks off.

I just wont hire women. I'm not paying you not to work.
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>>56521140
The US and Canada do this too, but maternity/paternity leave in America is generally a job-offered benefit not mandated by the government.

Paternity/maternity leave is pathetically short compared to the socialist countries though, similar to all those vacation time memes.
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>>56523459
The biggest problem in the American government is that the feds have been given too much power. As such, there is too much of a winner/loser mentality which does poison a lot of minds and it's not hard to see people scream their team won, like it was a sports game. In the states, more can and does get done, but since it's not usually a nation thing, cooperation like that tends to get ignored.

And I do get what you're saying, and it's not that the USA system is supposed to be 1 vs 1, but since the founding, it's pretty much been a constant battle between those who like a more centralized government vs. those who like a more decentralized government.
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>>56520443
>26 weeks of paid leave

for god's sake
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>>56520443

>More single mothers than ever before
>BUH BUH BUH WHY ARE MEN SUCH MISGONISTIC SHITLORDS NOW

Hmmmmmmm
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>>56521503
>>56521503

>Both new parents have the right to take parental leave of up to 35 or 37 weeks of unpaid time off work.

Inb4 some crafty dindu tries and breaks the system by timing it so they can have a year+ off and claim welfare.
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>>56522494
100 times this. No one lets boys be boys anymore. It's really fucked up. We have a generation of furries and faggots because everyone raises, teaches, mentors, etc. boys as though they are women. Fucking casuals shitting everything up for the rest of us.

>>56524185
Are you kidding me, people all over the place will be taking advantage of this. This is why if we were to do this we would need mandatory paternity and maternity. Otherwise some women would just baby factory it up and end up making the same as men but only working half the time. It would be fucking insanity.
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>paying bitches to work
>not paying them to stay home and have children
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>>56520443
>Africa
>Paid leave
Top kek.
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>>56520443
>no Federal law for paid maternity leave means nobody gets paid maternity leave

full retard. just because there isn't a law mandating it doesn't mean workers don't get it.
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>>56523982
>pic related
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>Greenland finally included in an international demographic map
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