http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/china-declares-war-on-isis-after-terrorists-claim-to-have-executed-chinese-hostage/ar-BBnkiit?li=AAaeUIW
>all those retards and SJWs calling them DAESH now
>b-but ISIS is not representative for Islam
Yes, it fucking is. Fucking keep calling those disgusting sandniggers ISLAMIC STATE, you fucking retards.
>>56513607
b... but ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_the_Secularisation_of_Islamic_Society
B-but if I call them 'Daesh', I can show how progressive and tolerant I am. T-they're not the real Islam guys! They're Daesh! I'm not Muslim but boy am I steamed when these people try to pretend to be Islam!
>pretty much the only reason anyone uses Daesh
I bet soon you can't say ISIS without someone calling you a supporter.
But guys, ISIS gets mad when you call them by their real name, daesh!
Dont you want to make ISIS mad!??!?
DO you like ISIS or something? Wtf
What the fuck is "daesh" supposed to mean?
>>56516034
It's suppose to mean like "murderer" or some stupid shit in arabic.
Fags only want to use it because they finally found a name they can use that doesn't include "islam"
>>56515516
oh
HAHAHAHA
holy shit.
Daesh isn't a euphemism you idiots.
It unambiguously means The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant
>>56516123
Call them ISIS legitimizes their position as the "Islamic State"
They are not the Islamic state, they are a group of radicals that wish to take over Islam and the world.
Refusing them even the title of Islam is to remove any sense of victory or pride they have. They are not ISIS. They are Daesh.
>>56513607
>kill in allah's name
>believe in getting their virgins
>definitely not muslims
I'm not sure what kind of brain damage people have these days but it's going to get us all killed.
>>56513607
>no video of execution
Meh, don't care
>>56516235
No, thats ISIL
>>56515516
Ibn Warraq BTFO
>>56516034
Apparently it's the arabic equivalent of boogeyman, and meant to delegitimize ISIS and mock them?
>>56513607
it's daesh, not isis
it's isis, not osiris
it's osiris, not ...
>>56513607
Here's the supposed reason why people "should" call it Daesh:
1. ISIS gave themselves a really long-winded name in arabic. Daesh is an acronym, and since acronyms are pretty rarely used in arabic, you basically prevent them from puffing themselves up by repeating their long-ass name.
2. "Daesh" is pretty close to another arabic word that supposedly means "a group of bigots" or something, giving the word pretty good comedic value.
Basically, unless you're an arabic-speaker in an arabic-speaking community, calling it ISIS or Daesh doesn't matter because the linguistic relevance isn't there. I personally call it ISIS because it sounds rather nice, and because the kucks are all calling it Daesh.
>>56516034
It sounds like "Tramples upon" and "Sows discord" if the BBC is to be trusted (It isn't to be trusted).
>>56516123
Daesh as a word has no translation in Arabic.
It's an Arabic acronym which, when expanded, reads "The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant"
So to say Daesh eliminates any reference to Islam just proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
Hamas is an Arabic acronym too, also including "Islamic" in its breakout (Islamic Resistance Movement).
Fatah (the closest thing Palestine has to a legitimate governing party) is an Arabic acronym that they actually had to make backwards because read in the normal direction it reads "Hatf" which means "doom"
>>56515904
>B-but if I call them 'Daesh', I can show how progressive and tolerant I am. T-they're not the real Islam guys! They're Daesh! I'm not Muslim but boy am I steamed when these people try to pretend to be Islam!
Guess who also gets steamed?
GENTLEMAN, WE HAVE OUR NEW CAMPAIGN
>Get Liberals to piss off ISIS by delegitimizing their organization
#DaeshNotIslam
#DaeshNotISIS
>>56513607
>http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/china-declares-war-on-isis-after-terrorists-claim-to-have-executed-chinese-hostage/ar-BBnkiit?li=AAaeUIW
>Students in Germany and Sweden are protesting new viral trend of calling ISIS "DAESH" since it's derogative to the Islamic race and teaching of the many refugees religious affiliation.
>Vivian Schmitt, an executive director of Students Union against Racism and Islamophobia at University of Cuxhaven in Lower Saxony
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuxhaven_(district)
has agreed to file in report for every racist öpularischemediahassgesang.
YOU FUCKING GERMAN FAGGOTS!!!
I call them ISIS because it would piss them off to be called by the name of a pagan goddess.
>>56516236
>They are not the Islamic state
The only thing that's debatable is if they're a state. They are certainly a group that is made up of practitioners of Islam, they follow the Qu'ran and the teachings of the prophet.
>>56513607
K.
>>56513607
Roger
>>56513607
Bueno
>>56513607
Ach, So...
>>56513607
Bene... allora?
>>56515516
hahaha, this is proof there is a God. such things cannot happen randomly.
>>56513607
I really don't give a fuck what they're called. They're goddamned inbred retardo barbarian fuckwits. Take the jihad away, and I still wouldn't want them in the west.
>>56513607
Daesh means Islamic state in Arabic. Of course they are Islamic but that isn't saying much.
t. A Syrian Muslim
>>56516680
Go easy on the dinner wine, Mario.
I read that Daesh would piss them off more than anything else.
>>56516766
Get out.
Daesh literally means Isis, it's just in another language
I don't understand why someone would push for them to be called Daesh instead.
>>56516793
Disinformation from the left mate.
>>56516840
Because it's also an insult.
>>56513607
why is ISIS bad if they kill prisoners though??
>>56516766
As an add on it means it stands for. Dawlet Al Islamiya Fi Iraq Wa Sham. It literal means The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant.
>>56516835
No u. This is a discussion of something more relevant to me than you
>>56515516
>mfw ISIS picked their name on purpose just for this
>>56516840
>I don't understand why someone would push for them to be called Daesh instead.
It's not an insult that's bullshit.
It's simply the left try to disassociate ISIS from Islam #Not AllMuslis etc.
>>56516953
Not all muslims!!!
Just the caliphate :^)
Wtf is this stupid shit, in a matter of 3 days I seen all these dumbass posts all over /pol/ to rename them.
>>56516840
>I don't understand why someone would push for them to be called Daesh instead.
Because in Arabic, things aren't usually called by their acronyms, and if they are, the acronym often resembles a word that has significance. Like Hamas, which is both an acronym and also resembles the word passion.
>>56516882
I meant get out of my country.
>>56516877
Because its barbaric.
This isn't even ISIS if the description is to be trusted, but I really don't see much of a difference between the "moderate" rebels and ISIS, at least in terms of brutality.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=809_1395163651
>>56513607
I'm pretty sure declaring them Un-Islamic violates their human rights according to the UN.
>>56516840
Also, as >>56516953 and others have pointed out, it's also a tactic to try and disassociate ISIS with Islam.
>>56517036
One day nigga, but its more of my country than yours. I have done more for it
>>56516284
>Daesh
>D-a-e-sh
>Dawla (state)
>Islamiya (Islamic) technically an "I" sound but the letter used is pronounced like an "A" when integrated as an acronym
>fi (in) preposition left out of the acronym
>Eraq (Iraq)
>wa (and) left out again
>Sham (the Levant region, but referring mostly to Syria)
>>56517007
>Because in Arabic, things aren't usually called by their acronyms, and if they are, the acronym often resembles a word that has significance
what does daesh sound like, something insulting?
>>56516575
>>56516034
The thinking goes that they do not represent all of Islam, and even the Independent, along with all the SJW's hates them.
http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/why-isis-will-hate-it-if-we-start-calling-them-daesh--bkC822p_zl
>>56517141
>One day nigga
Fair enough, if you're just chilling for a bit.
>I have done more for it
Such as?
>>56513607
>only religion without reform
>people blowing themselves up literally accepted.
It's the faith of terrorism.
>D.A.E.SH is a transliteration of the Arabic acronym formed of the same words that make up I.S.I.S in English: ‘Islamic State in Iraq and Syria’, or ‘لدولة الإسلامية في العراق والشام’ (‘al-dowla al-islaamiyya fii-il-i’raaq wa-ash-shaam’). That’s the full name chosen by the organisation.
it's still islamic, still exactly the same as ISIS.
>>56516584
Westerners don't know that, though, as you can see. It's propaganda directed at us, not them, to mitigate the association of ISIS with Islam.
ISIS doesn't mind being called Daesh at all, because it's their own invention.
>>56517177
I'm pretty sure it's gibberish, but someone who actual speaks Arabic would probably be a better source.
>>56517142
stfu KUCK, its ISIS. dont you have some muslim dicks to suck?
>>56516602
>an executive director of Students Union against Racism and Islamophobia at University of Cuxhaven in Lower Saxony
what the fuck is going on
"ISIS" sounds funny in Hebrew, "daesh" just became the normal way of saying it.
>>56517195
>Such as?
Meh, mostly just research in university and a lot of community shit I did when I was younger. Typical Ivy League student I guess. Still I got bigger plans for the future. Wish me luck goy
>>56517316
Going to build a clock?
But seriously, good luck. You can stay if you leave the death cult.
>>56516620
This clip should be useful in a piss-take.
https://youtu.be/boXtqvcrpKM
>>56517278
In some Scandinavian languages it ISIS sounds funny too since 'is' means 'ice'. So we're saying Ice-Ice everytime we're talking about ISIS. Calling it Daesh might piss the terrorists off too.
>>56517278
its just kucks like Germany and Frnace, trying to get rid of the "Islamic" in the name of a terror organisation.
if it was CSIS (Christian State of Iraq and Syria), they wouldnt give a fuck about the name.
>>56517375
Someone needs to edit in a bunch of goatfuckers showing up and beheading someone.
>>56516236
Actually, they are the "Islamic State". This is not a terrorist group at this point but a legitimate unrecognized country.
>tfw they are literally the Saudis 100 years ago.
Calling ISIS daesh means you are a kek
>>56513607
Good goy.
Kill Muslims because a bunch of Wahabis being funded by the west is causing shit as you wanted them to.
>>56517269
liberal bureaucracy eating itself
>>56513607
>Yes, it fucking is
ISIS cannot be representative of Islam because ISIS adheres to Salafism, a small sect in Islam. Mainstream Muslims represent Islam, not Salafies or Wahhabis.
>>56513607
It's the pinnacle of sjw craftiness.
Mocking the bigots while simultaenously being pc by keeping Islam out of the equation.
>>56517474
It's the other way around you brachycephaly
>>56517416
Tell me again, how many forces CroaKUCK sent in ME? Your useless country doesn't even help the coalition, fucking parasite just here to get the EU subsidies.
>>56513607
They've been called Daesh for a while, OP. It's just the Arabic version of the acronym; the meaning is the same.
It's fitting since IS is in Arabic nations, plus it sounds cooler.
>but I didn't know about it, so people shouldn't do it
>>56517526
Who are you trying to fool?
>>56517576
Croatia isn't selling weapons and chemical weapons to Arabs in Middle East.
That's what you and USA is doing.
If anything, you should be put on death trial for helping the enemy you fucking goy.
>>56515999
Here in Kebabistan, it's only Erdogan and his lackeys that use the name Daesh. I really don't think they're trying to insult them.
>Yes, it fucking is.
No, it isn't. The Quran is rife with contradictions of both peaceful and violent passages, but to say that ISIS is representative of Islam is just silly.
And they're called Daesh by Arabs as a pejorative term. Just because your country is being flooded with ISIS members doesn't excuse being a retard.
>>56517611
Come on kike, you gotta try harder with your shilling! Convince me to kill Muslims because you made the west fund those Wahabis.
pro tip you can't
>>56516602
>Islamic race
Fuck sake there is literally no such thing.
>>56517736
b-but the media taught me that muslims belong to one ethnicity and they all support ISIS
>>56517576
the only way one can redpill kucks is to let some of them die :)
>>56517661
Oh look another useless passive piece of shit country.
Go built some new houses for yours refugees and stay quiet as always.
>>56517711
>ISIS is representative of Islam is just silly.
How is it not?
>>56516602
>>56517269
>cuxhaven
>in germany
is this real life
>>56517711
Except the violent passages are the correct interpretation because they're newer than the peaceful passages. If a sura contradicts another sura, then the one that is newer is to be followed. Most people don't know which sura came first and which sura came after that, though, because Quran isn't chronological.
Anyway, ISIS is following the correct interpretation of Islam, so I don't see why it shouldn't be called Islamic State.
>>56517840
Because they're extreme, duh. Are Catholics representatives of Christianity? What about the Lutheran Church or the KKK?
>>56517839
>it's ok to fund Arabs in Middle East if you kill some of them once in a while and pressure EU to accept them if they need "shelter"
So many goys on /pol/, I feel like Europe is already dead because of people like you.
14/88 into the oven with you and the kikes!
Why are you supporting ISIS by calling them a name that they want to be called? Calling them Daesh is much better because it makes them angry, just like wiping your ass with the page of a Koran.
Seriously OP, do I need to report you to DHS? You sound like a fucking terrorist sympathiser trying to marry Islam with Daesh
>>56517711
>And they're called Daesh by Arabs as a pejorative term
Look who's swallowed the bullshit!
>>56517661
yes we actually are.. :D
http://www.glas-slavonije.hr/224134/1/Hrvatska-prodala-Siriji-oruzja-za-200-milijuna-dolara
>>56517963
>Calling them Daesh is much better because it makes them angry,
No it doesn't
>>56517963
You mean ISIS?
>>56518030
>>56517976
get out mohammed
>>56516590
But liberals are already doing that.
>>56517963
They don't care if you call them Daesh but they prefer ISIS.
You could call them something else like "State of something" and they'll get equally frustrated.
Anyway, isn't your country being culturally enriched by Indians and Chinese today? I think you should worry about that instead
>>56518074
What's up . .. did I burst your bubble and expose you for the gullible fool that you are?
>>56517963
No, it's not better, it only reinforces the dangerous idea that NotAllMuslims. While I do agree that all Muslims obviously aren't terrorists, they are still dangerous to our way of life and we shouldn't trying to appease them. They're enemies.
>0.01% of the worldwide Muslim population
>representative of Islam as a whole
/pol/tards being good goys again
DAESH :^)
>>56518151
Oh, look, it's Bosnia. Color me surprised.
>>56517936
>its ok to stay passive and never doing anything, but accepting the most BBC you can
fuck off, im sure even the Oven are banned in sweden.
Both are incorrect.
Isis dropped the second half of the name long ago and have called themselves the Islamic State for over a year now.
Its not daesh, or isis or isil.
Its just the Islamic State. Get it with it morans.
>>56518151
see >>56517725
calm down with the shilling
>>56518151
how does this picture make you feel??
>Because they're extreme, duh.
That Islam should be a global religion, that gays and apostates should be put to death, that women should submit to men, that the law should be patterned after Sharia are not "extreme" views in the Muslim world.
>Are Catholics representatives of Christianity?
Yes, they are.
>What about the Lutheran Church or the KKK?
The former, sure. The latter has been denounced by every Christian organization that's out there, but they too seem to follow some of the tenets of Christianity.
Now actually answer the question. How does ISIS not represent Islam?
>>56518219
You are also incorrect.
it was changed from ISIS to IS in July this year.
Get it with it moran
Islamic State Iraq Syria
how much more fitting do you want it?
Meant >>56518299 for you >>56517925.
>>56518299
>How does ISIS not represent Islam?
Does one male rapist represent every male?
Why should we care about how they want to be called?
>>56513607
It is Al Quaeda / CIA
they just keep changing the names to confuse you.
Can someone explain to me wtf Daesh is?
Is it a sjw politically correct term for Islamic jihadi groups now?
>>56518477
why do you protect them though Sven. you do know they stone faggots in their countries?
>>56516243
>Say they're doing it in the name of Allah and Islam
>Shout "Allahu akbar" before blowing themselves up
>"Guys can we stop calling them Muslims when they quite obviously aren't"
I can't find the screenshot that summed up everything best but it was along the lines of
>"It really says something when when the people seen as edgy and rebellious are the only ones telling the truth"
George Orwell was right.
>>56518477
False equivalence. Now answer the question. How does ISIS not represent Islam?
>>56518617
Nice try kike
>>56518671
False equivalence, now answer the question. How does one male rapist not represent every other male?
>>56518606
Yes . . .. . because it's not nice to to link their name with Muslims . . .Islam is a religion of peace don't you know?
>>56518706
Because I didn't ask how does ISIS not represent every Muslim? I asked how does ISIS not represent Islam? Try to keep up.
>>56513607
Why do libtards keep saying that IS isn't Islam? They are the purest form of Islam in the world right now. Research is fucking hard, I guess.
>>56518820
Read the fucking thread it's been explained over 9000 times.
>>56518689
better be a K-selection kike than a r-selection mudslim or a faggot like you.
also, /pol would always prefer kikes to muslims
>>56518299
>That Islam should be a global religion
Qoran forbids forceful conversions, therefore nothing wrong IF Islam becomes global religion in that way. :^)
>that gays and apostates should be put to death
Well, that's the penalty under Sharia law. If you want to publically acknowledge such things be sure to move out of Sharia jurisdiction. :^)
>that women should submit to men
Literally nothing wrong with that.
>The latter has been denounced by every Christian organization that's out there
And legitimacy of ISIS "Caliphate" was acknowledged by the Muslim institutions worldwide? :^)
>>56518477
According to feminists it does. I like this current argument they've been using though, you know the ones I mean
>"Do we blame all German people for the Nazis?"
>"Do we blame all white people for the slave trade?"
>"So why do we blame all Muslims because of ISIS?"
Obviously kucks repeat it because it sounds as if it's deep and meaningful when it's literally retarded because both former groups were and still are blamed for those things, hypocritically the same people who use this argument are the same people who blame the two former groups. The amazing thing is the only people who aren't being blamed are the ones who are responsible for all 3.
>>56518606
Jesus Christ just google the fucking word already I'm tired of explaining it
>>56518151
>11 million Sunni muslims
>0.01% of 1 billion
Kebab education
>>56517925
>Are Catholics representatives of Christianity?
Yes, actually.
>>56513607
in this thread: people who don't know DAESH is exactly the same thing as ISIS, just using the arabic words to form the abbreviation
>>56518905
Excellent contribution Ivan Schlomovic, 1 shekel has been credited to your account.
>>56518995
we already know this dickwad.
>>56518706
Males that rape represents males that rape. Muslims that believe in the supremacy of Sharia law represent muslims who believe in the supremacy of Sharia law. That simple.
I do respect your different view of the world though and wish that your country takes in every refugee you can. We will gladly send the ones they impose on us (only 20 so far but there'll probably be more) to you once they realize there's no noteworthy benefits here. Have a wonderful day, my cück friend.
>>56518876
Woah, mate. Calm down. America will save you when Trump comes to power.
>>56516034
الدولة الإسلامية في العراق والشام
د ا ع ش
D A 'A SH
It's just an acronym, what the fuck are all these other retards on about?
>>56518931
The Serbs had the right idea with you smelly goatfuckers.
REMOVE KEBAB
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>>56518299
>How does ISIS not represent Islam?
:^)
>>56519097
sorry mate, I didn't mean to reference you.
btw. Trump will never be Pres. anyway.
>>56518931
>Qoran forbids forceful conversions
Yes, the options are convert, die, or live under Muslim rule.
>Well, that's the penalty under Sharia law. If you want to publically acknowledge such things be sure to move out of Sharia jurisdiction.
So, you acknowledge that these are not radical beliefs? That ISIS does adhere to the tenets of Islam?
>And legitimacy of ISIS "Caliphate" was acknowledged by the Muslim institutions worldwide?
Enough that people are willing to leave the countries and join them. Enough that people are willing to carry out attacks in their name. Enough that they control a whole state. Also, way to ignore the rest of what I said. For better or worse, members of the KKK that adhere to the tenets of Christianity are Christians, though arguably not very good ones. Same with ISIS, they are Muslims, they practice Islam.
>>56513607
>retards and SJWs calling them DAESH now
News for you, OP. The label "Daesh" was given to ISIS members and sympathizers, not by SJW's or libtards but by peace-loving, family-oriented, law-abiding, Arab Muslims themselves.
Peace-loving Muslims calling ISIS "Daesh" is akin to 1930's anti-Nazi Germans calling Nazi Germans "Heinie's".
>>56519134
>loyalty to one's nation is permissible in Islam
Haha holy shit
>>56519213
>live under Muslim rule
Who said you have to live in a country with Muslims?
Oh right, you're a kike.
>>56519197
That's fucking heresy.
>>56519258
its not, its just the arabic version of saying ISIS
>>56519326
>Who said you have to live in a country with Muslims?
Merkel. And all the other leaders of Europe. And if Sanders/Clinton have their way, them too.
>>56517545
>argumentum ad popularum
Just because "most people believe in X", that doesn't make X correct. Can you prove that ISIS is "wrong" in their interpretation of Islam?
>>56517925
>are Catholics representative of Christianity
Yes.
They are all the same entity.
>>56512443
>>56519258
I first heard about Daesh when I read an article saying a US general was calling them Daesh, and that it was meant to be an insult that was an acronym of their Arabic name, but explicitly excluded the word Islamic. Thus it insults them by implying they're not Islamic. Like calling them niggers.
Is any of that actually true? Do they find it insulting, or is it like blacks calling each other nigger?
>>56519463
Can you prove that male rapists is "wrong" in their representation of every male?
>>56519258
>peace-loving, family-oriented, law-abiding, Arab Muslims themselves
That's a mythical creature. Never been documented.
>>56519326
>imports muslims at a record rate
>"Who said you have to live in a country with Muslims? "
Swedish posters are an amazing glimpse into the mental gymnastics needed to live in a cück state.
>>56519589
Thank you Mr Schlomo, 35 shekels have been deposited to your account.
>>56519213
>So, you acknowledge that these are not radical beliefs?
From a modern Western standpoint, yes they are radical.
>That ISIS does adhere to the tenets of Islam?
Fuck no. See >>56519134
>Enough that people are willing to leave the countries and join them. Enough that people are willing to carry out attacks in their name. Enough that they control a whole state.
Why don't relevant worldwide Muslim intstitutions recognize the legitimacy of their "Caliphate"? You know the weight that word carries in Islamic teaching? Yet, no one gives a shit about them. Bunch of smelly faggots joining them means nothing. :^)
>For better or worse, members of the KKK that adhere to the tenets of Christianity are Christians, though arguably not very good ones.
Yet you pointed out they have been "denounced by every Christian organization out there". Why is that, Chad? :^)
>>56519134
You've already stated that ISIS does adhere to the tenets of Islam.
>>56519574
>Can you prove that male rapists is "wrong" in their representation of every male?
Find a better comparison, one that makes sense.
>>56519569
>Is any of that actually true? Do they find it insulting,
It's not true unless you mispronounce it badly, then it sounds like the verb 'to trample'. The reason for changing the name are in the thread.
>>56519639
>jews
>in Portugal
Nah, we threw those out.
Much like we will throw out the "refugees" imposed on us. The 20 we have so far will be making their way to the rest of Europe soon. Some have literally said "We want Sweden." I know you don't mind.
>>56519589
Did you know that us Nordics can't tell the difference between you shitskins? You see, I don't look at someones belief, their race is more important because it shows me their true instincts and behavior.
You look and smell just like those "Muslims" that you dislike, how does that make you feel?
>>56518998
>>56519326
>>56519574
>>56519639
>calling everone who is against muslims a kike.
gj achmed, you surely didnt out your self as a muslim with such statements.
also, where do I donate to Israel army? I want more of those fuckers in Palestine killed :)
>>56517856
I kek'd
>>56519861
I call you a goy or a kike because it's exactly what you are.
Do you feel intimidated?
>>56519373
>its not, its just the arabic version of saying ISIS
No, you are wrong. "Daesh" is a derogatory word a Muslim uses as a way of telling someone they are a blasphemous, God-forsaken low-life. Imagine calling someone a "nigger" or "white trash". "Daesh" is a similar slang that good Muslims use to shame barbaric Arabs.
>>56517269
>Keksheaven
>mfw the memes are becoming real again
>>56518706
Being a male is not a choice being apart of a ideology such as a religion is
DAILY REMINDER
RELIGION IS A IDELOGY THE SAME AS NAZISM AND IS A CHOICE TO FOLLOW IT THE SAME WAY WE REGARD NAZIS AND PEOPEL WHO ASSOCIATE WITH THAT CHOSEN IDELOGY TODAY IS PROOF AND ALL YOU NEED TO SEE TO KNOW IT IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO LAMBASTE AND JUDGE ALL WHO CHOOSE TO ASSOCIATE TO SAID CHOSEN IDELOGY ISLAM IS NOT A RACE AND YOU DO NOT GET TO DO SHIT ABOUT IT.
>>56519961
No it is not you fucking retard . . . read the thread it's been explained 6 gorillion times.
>Using your enemies language
Either speak American or don't speak at all.
>>56519832
It makes me feel like what you think doesn't matter at all since you're supposedly racist and yet you're letting in thousands of shitskins into your country anyway. Since I look so much like them then you can think of me when Mohammed bin Mohammed is pounding your ass.
>>56519944
why, jews are above average intelligence and semi-handsome. Also, I agree with their reproduction strategy (K-selection).
I wouldn't mind being a kike in my next life.
>>56520047
False equivalence, now answer the question. How does Abrahamic (read: kike) religions represent every other religious belief?
>>56520047
CONT.
THE SAME WAY A NAZI SUPPORTER TODAY CAN NOT WALK DOWN THE STREET DISPLAYING THEIR CHOSEN IDELOGICAL CHOICE WITHOUT BEING ASKED TO JUSTIFY THEIR CHOICE AND ITS RELATION TO THE HOLOCAUST AND PAST MEMBERS.
>>56516584
Your right about ISIS
Fath backwards however is an acronym for "Palestinian freedom movement"
>>56519746
>From a modern Western standpoint, yes they are radical.
No shit mudslime. But they aren't very radical according to Islam.
>Fuck no.
So, some scholars are having a disagreement? No one cares.
>Why don't relevant worldwide Muslim intstitutions recognize the legitimacy of their "Caliphate"? You know the weight that word carries in Islamic teaching? Yet, no one gives a shit about them. Bunch of smelly faggots joining them means nothing.
Because they exist in countries that might make things difficult for them? That they're much more practical than ISIS? And enough people give a shit about them to join up. Enough people sympathize with them.
>Yet you pointed out they have been "denounced by every Christian organization out there". Why is that, Chad?
Because Christian organization will vehemently denounce people that perform atrocities in their name. Muslim organization will go the the defensive and scream over and over how it's "not all Muslims."
Islam is a cancer.
Saudi Arabia is basically an ISIS that has made it.
>>56520128
It is a ideology m8 I don't get your question all you need to know is see>>56520047
Nazi's broke the dam on being able to judge people based on their ideological choice using history as a precedent m8 everything your trying to compare is false gender and race is not a choice and is not based on a default ideology religion and ideology is a choice
>>56518606
Never mind I looked it up
>Isis finds acronyms to be Absolutly haram
Kek
>>56519773
>You've already stated that ISIS does adhere to the tenets of Islam.
I didn't say that. They can't be considered as such since they consciously and cynically break so many fundamental Islamic laws as seen >>56519134
. :^)
>>56520128
You still haven't answered the question I posed to you. That's all you have to do. How does ISIS not represent Islam? Surely it should be easy, right?
>>56520381
You still haven't answered the question I posed to you. That's all you have to do. How do male rapists not represent every male? Surely it should be easy, right?
>>56520341
Does not change who they identify as m8
a bunch of neo Nazis cant do positive things for a community and still expect to not be judged for their ideological choice and its past it goes both ways
>>56520381
The same way neo Nazis represent Nazis and is a chosen ideology
>secular moslems
>>56520421
Being a male is not a choice false equivalency.
>>56520457
>neo Nazis represent Nazis
Neo Nazis are goys, they do not represent national socialism but the kikes managed to convince everyone they do.
>>56520341
You very much did, in >>56518931
>>that gays and apostates should be put to death
>Well, that's the penalty under Sharia law. If you want to publically acknowledge such things be sure to move out of Sharia jurisdiction.
>They can't be considered as such since they consciously and cynically break so many fundamental Islamic laws
That just appears to be bickering among Islamic scholars. The truth is, ISIS is fundamental Islam. Leave the death cult and join the rest of the world, even if you are a third world shithole.
>>56520421
Being male is not an ideology, it's a biological fact. Islam is an ideology.
>>56516620
This. Dumb fucking muslims calling themselves after an Egyptian goddess. Muhammad hadn't even been invented when Isis was around.
>>56520516
sorry m8 the German neo Nazis are following national socialism this is a true no scots man argument sir it will not work
>>56520075
>read the thread it's been explained
It is irrelevant how many times the plebes in this thread offer their propaganda. It doesn't make it any more of a genuine explanation. The fact is, "daesh" is a slang word in the Arabic language but IT'S USAGE in the spoken language is the key to understanding the meaning of the word. I invite you to come to any one of the apartment buildings I own where many Arab Muslim families live and speak to them about ISIS. They will refuse to calll them ISIS and they will admonish you for affording ISIS the validation that a formal name provides. To those good Muslims, ISIS are shaming Islam and do not take the religion seriously but instead are using the religion to bring about a Middle East/North Africa fascism with ISIS at the top of the chain of command. And so, good Muslims refuse to recognize ISIS as a legitimate organization and instead they choose to refer to them as low-life filth — "daesh".
>>56513607
>DAESH
>DILDO
what ever, they execute Chinese, the game is on. More join the frying pan. More bombs on dildo territory.
soon whole north and south Syria Iraq will be worse er state then Palestrina.
>>56520421
>How do male rapists not represent every male?
There is no core tenet of being a male outside of having male reproductive organs. Now, if there was some sort of Manism ideology that allowed for rape in specific situations, and said rapist adhered to it, you would have an argument. But it doesn't exist, so you don't.
Now it's your turn.
>>56513607
Ni hao china
kill them fuckin all
The only English speaking source that I've ever seen calling ISIS Daesh is Reddit.
DAILY REMINDER
ALL ARGUMENTS USED TO CRTIICSE ANY AND ALL CRITICISM OF ISLAM AND ITS FOLLOWRD CAN BE USED TO DEFEND NAZIS TODAY AND CHOOSING TO FOLLOW SAID IDEOLOGY
>>56520677
>More join the frying pan.
>More bombs on dildo territory.
>More immigrants in dildo countries (Germoney and Sweden)
>>56520697
reading that post gave me cancer and reminded me of this funny picture
When ever the fact religion being a ideology and comparing how we treat Nazis today as proof you can judge all followers of a ideology the threads seem to die
>>56520806
Answer to question Ahmed. How does ISIS not represent Islam?
>>56520806
You just got BTFO m8 no fight left in you?
>>56520671
You are talking shit, I speak arabic you fat fuck.
There is no such word as 'Daesh' and you would have to mispronounce it VERY badly to mean a verb! .. . because of the way it's formed Arabic don't use acronyms very much.
Stay on your 'Not all muslims' narrative if you want . . but you are fooling nobody!
>>56517840
>>56517921
>Except the violent passages are the correct interpretation because they're newer than the peaceful passages. If a sura contradicts another sura, then the one that is newer is to be followed. If a sura contradicts another sura, then the one that is newer is to be followed.
There are peaceful passages that are also newer, such as sura 109 which is a "live and let live" passage about non-believers. ISIS clearly does not follow this sura, even for other sects of Islam.
Secondly, the argument is that a tiny fundamentalist minority cannot represent the vast majority, many of whom follow different interpretations of Islam.
Arguing over which is the "correct" interpretation is literally Muslim-tier: a discussion for Muslims and Islamic scholars. Most Christians today do not interpret the Bible literally. That doesn't make them any less Christian, however, that doesn't mean dumbfucks in the American Bible Belt represent Christianity because they think that the Earth is 6000 years old and that Jesus is going to come down soon to kill Muslims, convert Jews to Christianity, and lead all Christians to paradise.
Realize there is a difference between being Muslim and representing Islam. ISIS is comprised of Muslims, but does not necessarily represent Muslims. The fact that both /pol/ and SJWs can't manage to wrap their heads around this just shows why I tend to avoid these meaningless discussions.
>>56516236
>>56520235
>No shit mudslime. But they aren't very radical according to Islam.
Yes, UNDER Sharia jurisdiction. If majority of people expresses the need for Sharia law being implemented then I don't see a problem with such penalties being executed. :^)
>some scholars
Kek. Literally the worldwide muslim population disagrees with their self-proclaimed "Caliphate". :^)
>Because they exist in countries that might make things difficult for them? That they're much more practical than ISIS? And enough people give a shit about them to join up.
Nope.
>Enough people sympathize with them.
Top kek. Lay off that breitbart bro. :^)
>Because Christian organization will vehemently denounce people that perform atrocities in their name. Muslim organization will go the the defensive and scream over and over how it's "not all Muslims."
Muslim countries designate them as terrorist organization, muslim scholars denounce them publically and here you are spouting Twitter memes. Beyond pathetic, Chad.
http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/
:^)
>Islam is a cancer.
No, it's not. :^)
>>56520806
>tries to evade a post that completely wrecked him by posting an irrelevant pic
Sweden is too far gone, it's muslim land now.
>>56521000
>Realize there is a difference between being Muslim and representing Islam. ISIS is comprised of Muslims, but does not necessarily represent Muslims.
I have never stated ISIS represents Muslims, I've stated it's still Islam.
>>56521000
this is a no point argument this is BTFO with one point
if a group of neo Nazis starting advocating things not aligned with national socialism but other things that are national socialist they will still be judged and said to represent another face of the Nazi ideology m8 it works both ways you just don't like it but Nazism and how we treat anyone associated with really fucked your guys narrative
>>56521206
>>56521000
Isis represent Islam the same way neo Nazis represent Nazi 's
>>56520235
>>56520806
>>56521000
>>56521146
>No, it's not.
Every majority Muslim country on the planet is a shithole. Nearly every majority Muslim area within a non-Muslim majority country is the often the shittiest part of said country. Islam is a blight and we'd all be better off if you gave it up or just died.
>>56521435
every muslim i know is extremely violent
everytime someone says something against islam the muzzies say they want to kill us
>>56521435
THIS
as well remember being a terrorist is no the prerequisite of being a radical most if not all Muslims are radical and share radical beliefs when compared to civilized nations. An example of this is the fact almost all Muslims you ask believe in the women's rights being suppressed in the guideline of Islam and homosexuals as well.
>>56521353
That's funny that they've been here for months.
/pol/ literally could not have been more anti muslim these past few months.
When will people learn you cannot raid or hope to change this site from within?
>>56520543
>Well, that's the penalty under Sharia law. If you want to publically acknowledge such things be sure to move out of Sharia jurisdiction.
That was my general remark on that particular Sharia law, not on ISIS pracice.
>That just appears to be bickering among Islamic scholars
Nope. All relevant Muslim institutions deny "Caliphate". YouTube preaching shitheads don't fall under "relevant", m8. :^)
>The truth is, ISIS is fundamental Islam
No, it isn't. Consult again: >>56519134
>Leave the death cult and join the rest of the world
We're already there, m8.
>even if you are a third world shithole.
Haha I like how you /pol/tards always end up on with petty remarks on the flags. Capitulation, I guess. :^)
>>56521581
every german i know is a nazi
>>56521689
see>>56521221
>>56520736
ISIS represents islam the same way neo Nazis represent Nazis DEAL WITH IT
>>56517725
They keep raping people in our countries
>>56521885
If you ask the media it would be acceptable to say any right wing group in Germany is a face of Nazism
>>56521689
>That was my general remark on that particular Sharia law, not on ISIS pracice.
They're one and the same mudslime.
>Nope. All relevant Muslim institutions deny "Caliphate". YouTube preaching shitheads don't fall under "relevant", m8.
It doesn't matter what they deny. They can say ISIS isn't Islamic as much as they want, all it boils down to is No True Scotsman.
And I know the flag remarks are low-hanging fruit, but since you're not really a person, it doesn't matter.
>>56521353
I'm not here to defend Islam. Maybe you should read more instead of posting non sequiturs.
>>56521932
>if you ask the media which is owned by the kike, everything is nazi/racist unless it sympathizes with kikes or their goal
k
>>56521435
>Every majority Muslim country on the planet is a shithole. Nearly every majority Muslim area within a non-Muslim majority country is the often the shittiest part of said country
You have no arguments left for legitimizing ISIS so you inevitably end up "Muslim countries are shithole" meme. :^)
>Islam is a blight and we'd all be better off if you gave it up or just died.
No, it's not. :^)
>>56522000
You have no arguments against ISIS representing Islam outside of No True Scotsman. I went on to state the fact of how shitty Muslim countries are because you insist Islam isn't a cancer, when it very much is.
>>56521988
Again no one is changing that shit and it is now societies default so again your not making a point mine is clear as day you can judge anyone that chooses to associate with a ideology sorry so much so just resembling them justifies the lable kek
>>56521979
>They're one and the same mudslime.
No, they aren't. The majority of Muslims don't acknowledge them.
>It doesn't matter what they deny. They can say ISIS isn't Islamic as much as they want, all it boils down to is No True Scotsman.
Of course it does matter when literally the rest of population denies them. I'm sorry Chad if it doesn't fit your warmongering narrative, but that's how it is. :^)
>And I know the flag remarks are low-hanging fruit, but since you're not really a person, it doesn't matter.
Why so rude, Chad? :^)
>>56522119
>the fact of how shitty Muslim countries are
Which Muslim country? Saudi Arabia, a country which recently purchased modern warships and weaponry from your country for a price of 60 billion dollars?
Please tell me which shitty Muslim country.
>>56522000
No one has to tell you shit to legitimize isis as representing islam as the burden of proof is on those changing the default position
ISIS represent islam like neo Nazis represent Nazis.
>>56519134
Whelp, I guess Wahhabism and Salafism aren't Islam sects and countries like Saudia Arabia shouldn't exist then.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
>>56522227
>neo Nazis represent Nazis.
that's what you kikes want everyone to believe
>>56522119
>You have no arguments against ISIS representing Islam outside of No True Scotsman
Yes, yes I have (>>56519134). But you're ignoring them, why is that, Chad? :^)
>>56522212
see>>56522227
islam is a ideology
Nazism is a ideology
neo Nazis represent Nazis even is they say they don't even if they practice differently and support none national socialist policies but support others. m8
>>56522212
>The majority of Muslims don't acknowledge them.
The majority of Muslims agree with them on the exact same principles.
>Of course it does matter when literally the rest of population denies them.
They certainly doesn't represent every Muslim, but they are representative of Islam. It's an ideology that promotes and encourages radicalism. To deny that is to keep your head in the sand.
>Why so rude, Chad?
Because you are the enemy. West society cannot co-exist with Islam, unless serious reformation in undergone by your cult.
>>56522301
That's what society accepts and did accept until now when it triggered you leftist fucks kek
>>56515904
That's one of the funniest things I've found through this. Liberals are literally appropriating Islam to declare that ISIS don't follow what they believe to be true Islam.
>>56522401
>Nazism is a ideology
>neo Nazis represent Nazis
>>56522453
> society accepts
they're called "goys"
>you leftist fucks
leftists aka goys care about neo nazis?
you're not making a lot of sense here Schlomo
>>56522467
LOL
this is a fact and has been acceptable in society until it has ruined your guys narrative and triggered you sorry
>>56522518
sorry m8 your leftist to me and you have no point the facts are the facts now prove them wrong.
>>56522532
>>56513607
Towel heads try their damndest to instigate a war with the west but they end up in a war with the east
>>56522221
Find me one that isn't shit.
>>56522588
prove it wrong.
sorry it takes the wind out of your narrative m8
>>56522570
see >>56518689
You're a bit desperate with the shilling today Schlomo
>>56522454
>Liberals are literally appropriating Islam to declare that ISIS don't follow what they believe to be true Islam.
I have never thought of that before, thanks anon.
>>56522608
define shit
>>56513607
But we call them Daesh
>>56516123
no it fucking doesnt lmao
>>56522315
Again, it's bickering amongst Islamic scholars, who have an vested interest in not having ISIS affiliated with them. Who's to say which is right?
>>56522442
>The majority of Muslims agree with them on the exact same principles.
No, they don't.
>It's an ideology that promotes and encourages radicalism.
Islam? No, it's not.
>Because you are the enemy. West society cannot co-exist with Islam, unless serious reformation in undergone by your cult.
No, you take them for enemies by default since you're swallowing what's being served like a good goy. :^)
>>56513607
You stupid fucking faggot.
DaEsh is the Arabic acronym for Islamic State.
al-Dawala Islamiyya etc. Means Islamic state.
>>56522644
none of that addresses my point kek lol want to try again?
>>56516584
Fatah means opening you nigger lover
>>56522753
Islam? yes it is the same that is said about Nazism it is a toxic ideology and its followers can be judged for choosing it
>>56522779
>kek l0l resistance is futile admit defeat goy u cant do anything m8,media is stronger than historical facts, get rekt l0l
>>56522753
>No, they don't.
Yes, they do. That isn't up for debate, it's fact.
>Islam? No, it's not.
How can you honestly say that? Look at every Muslim country. How often are serious attacks undertaken in the name of Islam?
>No, you take them for enemies by default since you're swallowing what's being served like a good goy.
Any religion that preaches convert, die or kneel is by default the enemy of Western civilization. I know this is /pol/, but you can't blame the jews for everything.
>>56522896
wow m8 you really are the shill here as I hate Jews and Muslims and don't defend any religion as it is a tool of control against whites m8 if you don't see how ideology such as Islam is another shit skins mistake much like Christians follow a kike ideology you are the problem
>>56522950
If you don't kneel to American laws, what will happen?
You're so fucking stupid, can someone just kill every goy so humanity can move on and wipe out the kikes and later every other Abrahamic religion along with Semitic filth polluting this wonderful planet?
#ISISisIslam
>>56522797
He didn't say it didn't you fucking illiterate Dune Coon. He said they made it backwards. Yes, the implication in the name Fatah is that they will open up all of Filistina, in other words remove bagel. In the 50+ years since they started, they've utterly failed.
>>56523044
confirmed shill as if you don't see ALL religions as the problem your a blue pilled bitch
>>56523044
Why are you defending Islam, if you'd also like it to end?
>>56523160
poltard triggered
>>56522212
There have been a ton of polls that show there is a gross amount of moslems that support ISIS in first world countries. Islam is for savage thirdworlders that would still be scraping camel dung off rocks for moisture if not for the western world.
