>i own a gun because i'm unable to defend myself in a fair fight
>i fight fair and honorably
owning a gun is for pussies
If Americans need to defend themselves from other Americans, why do they use guns and not harpoons?
>>56495897
Sure do and I don't find anything wrong with that. I'm a skinny fuck and have no time for working out.
Isn't that the point?
>fair fight
top kek
>>56495897
No I own guns because I enjoy building my precision skills.
I understand every male in New Zealand is a limp wristed femboy but you really don't need to be afraid of firearms, champ.
AU, EU -- and yes, UK, you're EU... Does it bother you that you're on a site using an american website, on an american domain, made by an american using an invention made in america called the internet that you likely found on an american search engine while trying to research how terrible america is?
>expecting fair fights outside your dojo
please senpai
>>56495897
>fair fight
wtf is that?
Can someone explain to me why 'I need muh guns in case da gubmint attacks' is a good argument? If the government decided to go all totalitarian on your ass then your handguns/rifles won't do shit against tanks and drones. So all guns do in the meantime is let niggers shoot people.
If you're fighting fair, you already lost.
>>56495897
>fair fight
I bet your one of those faggots who gets mad when people dont bow in dark souls.
>>56496143
Go get enriched.
>>56495897
>4+ niggers break in your house with knives/guns
>fair
Let's not act like people own guns because they plan on using them during a fight. This is a matter of life and death in many situations where looking like a pussy or "fedora" is a lot easier to handle than 4 Jamals pushing your shit in
>>56496082
I remember when I was 16
>>56496159
Why are you implying soldiers would willingly drive tanks upon their own people?
Or are you a retard and don't think about the shit that you say?
>>56496215
Go and get shot.
>>56496075
>limp wristed
>can't even touch us at rugby
Kek
>>56496247
If that's the case then what's even the point of wanting civilians to be armed? Are you retarded?
>>56496159
LOLOLOL
>>56495897
>2015
>I mean
>Come on
>This isn't the 1950's
>No one fair when it comes to fisticuffs anymore
>>56496159
The guns stop it from getting there, like in the Glorious Revolution, or if need be complicate it if it does, like in the Soviet Baltic and parts of Ukraine.
>>56495897
Why would you ever fight fair. If you're trying to win- and there aren't rules in a fight for your life, you need to play foul.
>>56496242
What is ad homenim
>>56496159
>Having a fighting chance is a bad thing
>Letting niggers kill themselves is a bad thing
>The US gov. can economically survive a civil war
>Drones can patrol the entire United States
>Tanks can patrol the entire United States
>>56496291
Good one reading my reply properly there.
I never said that I need to be armed for that reason, I asked you why you thought soldiers would willingly kill their own countrymen you sperg
If everybody has a gun, it is a perfectly fair fight.
>>56495897
>Implying niggers will put the gun down to fight you with bare hands during the drive by
>Implying it isnt every freedom loving Americans duty to own a gun
Are Americans allowed to own G3A3s? I would like to own one some day because I like how it looks.
>>56496398
OP BTFO
>>56496433
From what I hear, you can own basically any firearm in the southern and south-west states (barring Commiefornia).
>>56496159
well the primary arguments are constitutionality and self defense since police cannot be relied on to respond in time to imminent threats
to answer your question though no government wants to govern a country of corpses, what guns do is allow a domestic insurgency and make maintaining the police state necessary to pacify a country with 300 million guns a difficult venture in practice.
when it was originally created it was intended for a rebellion against a tyrannical government with a parity in available firepower but in the 21st century its asymmetric warfare.
>>56496294
>drive tank into street
>kick down door
>get shot at
>use tank to blow house to smithereens
>neighbors proceed to comply
>if they don't then just raze the whole neighborhood, it's not like the government gives a shit at that point anyway
>>56496399
Because that condition needs to be fulfilled in order for the 'I need guns against the gubmint' scenario to occur. If soldiers won't oppress civilians on behalf of the government then there is no point for civilians to have guns in the first place.
>>56496284
Rugby really isn't the best example to use if you're gonna talk about limp wristedness
>>56495897
I own a gun because niggers dont fight fair
>>56495897
Pro-tip: If you are 'defending' yourself it's not a fair fight. It's not 'fair' to get attacked on the street.
You got pecs I got teks
>>56496433
>>56496469
It's selective fire so no you can't own it. You can have semi-auto in the US unless it's a pre-ban which cost like $10k+.
>>56495897
You know who's unable to defend himself in a "fair" fight (which is completely illegal by the way) is that elderly rabbi who was sucker-punched by an "unarmed" youth.
>>56496499
meant to quote this one too
>>56496075
>>56495897
Islander detected
>>56496538
>The government will always have far more power and resources, what is your semi automatic gonna do?
Make the grunts breaching the door think twice.
>>56496411
>tfw everyone is too scared to have a good ol'e street shootout
> Gun owners having tiny dicks is just a stereotype made up by greedy Jews and dumb nig nogs. Its totally not true like most stereotypes
>>56495897
>New Zealand could be wiped off the face of the Earth and no one would notice or care
>>56496584
Nah gee. 1 on 1 in Souf Auckland righ now.
>>56495897
>"Fair fight"
M8 you grew up in NZ, around Maori and fobs. How the fuck do you still believe fair fights exist ?
>>56495897
>>56496486
See you're a stupid ausfag. You need to come to america and breath the air of freedom. I don't like to type out arguments because it wastes my time so this next pic and that first one will suffice. If you don't get it after that then fuck you, I'm not going to explain further.
>>56495897
Q: How do you win a fair fight with a Leb?
A: Take his sim card
>>56495897
EBIN, TOTALLY EBIN
>>56495897
le totally upvote
>>56496486
>implying the US military would raze its own
No, you gotta give tanks to the cops if you're going to do that.
>>56496538
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare
surprisingly effective with a small force
now consider that there are more guns in U.S. citizens' hands than there are in any country on Earth
>>56495897
If everyone owns a gun you can have fair gun fights
>>56496159
Kek.
>>56495897
>i perform mental gymnastics in order to rationalize my serfdom because reality is too scary
So you want muslim rapists to be free to rape because not every woman has a black belt. Or seniors to be robbed because thy cant disarm multiple robbers like some kind of grandpa bruce lee. Gotcha
Oh wait, nevermind, Bruce Lee was carrying a gun 24/7, so your argument is shit.
>>56496632
I stopped reading at point 2, because I've already addressed this. Again, in such a scenario there would be no point in having armed civilians when the army would suffice.
Also
>america
>freedom
You're literally losing your freedom of free speech and freedom to be white as we speak. Your only saving grace is that you're not as kucked as europe right now.
>>56496082
>I have a small dick, the only way I feel like a real man is when I'm firing a gun.
>>56496757
Bruce Lee was nothing but an actor.
Yip Man gave him some very basic Wing-Chun lessons as a small boy, as a favor to his rich, famous Chinese actor father.
Bruce Lee grew up as a tap dancing little spoiled rich kid, a child actor, and he basically tricked Americans into thinking he was some sort of Martial Arts genius when he came to the U.S. He wasn't.
He never participated in any REAL tournament.
He never won any sort of title belt.
He never beat any martial arts champions or won any real titles, unlike REAL champions like Chuck Norris and Steven Seagal.
He was just an actor, and to this day, people are stupid enough to think he really could fight.
Have you watched "The Karate Kid" with Jaden Smith? That was Bruce Lee. He was a Jaden Smith of his day, but people were too stupid to realize it's all Hollywood bullshit.
To this day, people are too stupid to realize it was all Hollywood, and not real. Bruce Lee was NOT a martial arts champion. Just an actor who could fake it like he knew how to do it.
>>56495897
OP, I found your picture.
>>56496808
>tfw I put my knife on the bench and it just begins cutting up all the tomatos in sight
>>56496820
You kinda missed the point of his post.
>>56496674
If it's such an impossible scenario then why is it one of the most common arguments for guns?
>I need guns to protect myself from the government!
>oh but no soldier would listen to the government if they were ordered to attack me anyway lol
>>56496808
If you were trying to disfigure the tomato, it would have worked with a knife or without a knife. It just didn't happen the way you wanted it to.
>>56495971
I know it's wrong but this made me laugh.
>>56496808
But the person in the pic literally cut the tomato.
Show me a pic where a knife cut a tomato on it's own accord.
>>56496820
okay, true enough but he would still do better in a streetfight then a unarmed woman, and still caried.
Also Steven Segal and Norris are both pro- gun too, so I think my argument still applies.
>>56495897
Fair fights are for weaklings who didn't conquer entire countries.
Get fucked, nerd.
>>56496939
>revolutions and oppresive dictatorships dont happen anymore
Why, bevause its THE CURRENT YEAR?
>>56496820
>Seagal
>champion
Pick one
>>56497073
If they did, the army would turn on the government according to people in here, and therefore they wouldn't be able to pull it off in the first place. So again, how is 'muh gubmint' a justifiable argument for guns?
Battles to the death aren't about being fair. They're about winning.
>>56495897
nogs don't fight fair. ergo, we civilized whites need extra protection.
>>56496159
You are totally right, my friend. These pitiful neckbeards cling onto their guns, but they don't realize that modern militaries are unbeatable. I mean, what can a bunch of backwoods rednecks with rifles, handguns and homemade explosives do against tanks, fighter jets and a modern military?
>>56496939
As our good friend Chairman Mao said, political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Prepare for everything.
Our military is not political anyway. It never has been historically. It's impossibly to say how many would defect, but if we assume 100 million gun owners in the US (a low figure), let's say one percent of them form an insurgency. That's one million armed insurgents. That would put the American insurgency in the Top 30 for global army strength. Well armed, well trained, and motivated. Taliban and the Iraqi ex-military/insurgents had tens of thousands at their heights. Islamic State might have a hundred thousand or so at most.
It would be like fighting the Korean War a second time.
>>56496808
The logic isn't that people are physically shooting other people with bullets made in out body, it's that people are the ones with the intent to put bullets into another person, by using a gun.
The real logic would be: the man is what has the intent to cut the tomato, he just uses a knife to achieve that.
7/10 made me reply.
>>56497127
Because people here are delusional in thinking that enough soldiers would turn on the government. Deep down they know this so they fight to keep their guns even though it won't mean jack shit.
>>56495968
Katanas are for pussies
>>56496499
>Amerifat thinking his toddlers wearing padding and helmets is somehow manlier than a 20 man bare handed fight to the death
No wonder you keks can't play for shit :^)
>He has a small dick!
>He needs a gun to protect himself!
Probably. I'm 6'2" and weigh 135lbs and can't fight for shit.
Too bad I'm Australian and don't have guns. Just have to hope my scary yelling voice is enough.
>>56496608
Nobody realizing our glorious utopia exists is our greatest blessing
>>56497162
I love you. I am sorry about the White Obama running your country.
>>56497194
You don't need the soldiers to turn. What I would expect is a 1-3% rate among regular enlisted, upwards of 10% of special forces (your key for obtaining trainers), possibilities go out the door if a General or Major convinces his entire organization to defect as has happened in Syria on occasion. And who exactly are these people? A regiment of supply clerks I'd argue has more value than a regiment of 11B. Specialized training.
Throw in Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Russia, and a slew of other American hating nations would have supplies and advisers in rebel areas in a fucking heartbeat. Russia probably gets outright involved if you offer them a couple of naval bases on the Atlantic.
>>56495897
>Implying white people can be in a fair fight any longer
Shitskins fight in groups
>>56497220
Grade A shitpost
here is your reply
>>56496765
Good thing the army is volunteer then, right?
You never had those freedoms to begin with, at least ours have some reason to be respected. All you have is a queen.
>>56495897
>i own a gun because i'm unable to defend myself in a fair fight
That's what guns are for - for civilized people to kill savages.
after the shit white boy Zimmerman pulled white people shouldn't be allowed to own a gun, PERIOD. If you're white and in a situation call the cops and wait fro the EXPERTS to arrive.
>>56497255
Are crossbows legal in the US?
>fair fight
fuck off you double nigger
>>56495897
>I'm okay with getting gunned down by feral niggers looking for free shit because that's only fair
>>56497381
>Are crossbows legal in the US?
of course they are not. 100% banned because of babykillingness.
Think of BAMBI
>>56497381
Yeah, but only few use them. They are used for hunting. You know some people hunt with AR-15s
Is it weird I defend my house with an M1-Garand instead of a shotgun
>>56496861
>blacks
>in new zealand
Kek
>>56497381
Bow is better
You wont engage an armoured guy in these times
Shitskins cant afford it whites prefer guns
Bow is faster rhe same accuracy and scarier, cause the arrows stick out of the victim and immobalise him, even if the SHOT wasnt lethal
>>56497445
rifles are infinitely better for HD than shotguns. The shorter the better.
>>56497343
It takes 9 - 12 minutes for the police to arrive in America.
It takes 3 minutes to die from a gunshot wound in your femoral artery.
So A friend is selling an AK (semi-auto version for non-Americans to understand) $700 is it worth it.
>>56497343
here's your (you)
>>56496614
He bogan.
>>56496260
you first, idiot. hope your the first one to get shot when paris 2.0 happens in your neighborhood
>>56496433
If it can go full auto then no we can't own it, there are some we can with enough money, time, and paperwork. We can buy their neutered semi-auto cousins all day every day in the meantime.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/century-arms-c308-sporter-detail.html?Itemid=0
https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/h-k-uzi-s-mac-10/ptr-91-h-k-type-rifles.html
>>56495971
Underrated post
>>56497127
Because you necer should be forced to rely on state aproved gunowners in uniform, and I say that as serviceman abd someone who voted to keep compulsory mil. service in austria.
>>56497451
Don't you have some sheep to fuck or some feminists to elect?
I didn't know people as retarded as the C ucks ITT even existed. Then again, the world outside of the US will fade into chaos soon enough. Dont you all even fucking dare say you want guns when it happens. I expect you all to line up and get executed for being the shitstains you are.
>>56495897
>I shit post on 4chan, because I'm unable to defend myself in person.
>>56497554
Is that a question or statement?
Who made/imported/distributed the AK?
Is it a 47 or 74?
What condition is it in?
How long has he had it, was he the first owner?
>>56495897
I own a firearm cause they are fun to shoot!
Oh man, the feeling of firing a firearm feels amazing, even after a few thousand rounds!
And the only fight I'd ever be in would be against a bear or cougar, so having a firearm in that situation would be pretty sweet, hopefully it'd never come to that though.
Picture is my raifu.
>>56497649
Pot calling kettle black weedman :^)
>he doesn't know we've voted right wing 9 years in a row
>>56497563
>Litteraly live in the forest close to a city of 3000
Yeah seems likely that they would attack me.
>>56497296
Trudeau is okay, he is going to import some hot syrian babes and legalize weed.
I just find it intellectually dishonest that gun grabbers claim "rifles don't do anything against modern militaries" when literally almost every armed conflict in the 21st century has favoured highly mobile insurgents using small arms and guerilla warfare tactics.
Milquetoast leftists have no understanding of war, historical or philosophical.
>>56496159
If you wipe out every citizen who doesn't like what you're doing you'll end up running a country with nobody in it.
People don't like it when you blow up their neighbor's house with a drone strike for owning a shotgun
>>56495897
I don't own a gun because I am 6 foot 6 and missing an arm.
I've got sympathy mixed with intimidation enough that people leave me alone.
However for that very special person who decides to take a crack regardless, I certainly hope that they know how to handle their weapon of choice properly and can think quickly, because I still know how to disarm and nuetralize a man with just one arm.
But in all reality, why would you want to a fight a one armed man who would've happily gave you a cigarette in exchange for a story?
>>56496159
You can't rule a nation with tanks and bombs.
See: Syria
>>56495897
> fair fight
Define fair.
>>56495897
>a fight should be fair
Get kangaroo jack out of here.
>>56495897
This b8 is TERRIBLE
>>56498655
>You can't rule a nation with tanks and bombs.
you absolutely fucking can. syria is a terrible example
>>56499119
you literally cannot. you can destroy a nation sure but you cant rule it with drone strikes and carpet bombs
>>56496143
more than half the murders in the US are caused by blacks, white crime is in line with european crime. It's not the guns, it's the niggers.
>>56497798
thats one long barrel
is that for it to comply to some stupid rule or do you actually want the barrel to be that long?
Ive never known a person that owns a gun that doesnt act like a faggot.
I live in Florida, so lots of gun owners around me.
They are always either rednecks, retarded, overcompensate for everything, or are afraid of everything. Or a combination.
You always hear them talk tough even about the smallest shit. You always hear them talk about how worried that are about da turrusts and da blacks that are gonna come kill abduct their family and murder their dog in the night. You always hear them cry about everything in politics as if the sky were falling. Most of them have giant trucks that they dont even use for work.
I had a neighbor who was ready to shoot me one night cause i was riding my bike in a circle infront of my driveway cause the power was out and he got scared cause he didnt recognize me.
Gun owners are 95% of the time retarded giant pussies afraid of shadows.
Im not even against guns. Guns are cool and I think anyone who wants one should be allowed to own one. But that still doesnt change the fact that the majority of gun owners are delusional pussies.
>>56496082
Does it bother you you're using the British world wide web?
>>56499172
>you can't rule through fear
lol.
>>56499832
Countries are ruled through fear by secret police, which is a very different game.
>>56496159
It's like you have no idea how asymmetrical warfare works. There's more to war than just firepower.
>>56499832
Eventually you will piss enough people off where they will rebel. It will get to the point where enough atrocities against innocents are like fuel being added to a fire. Take a fucking look at Syria. There are entire cities pounded into dust from constant bombings and airstrikes yet there are still rebels and soldiers fighting among the ruins and torn landscapes.
>>56495897
To be really fair, there is no such thing as a fair fight because one side will always have a physical and biological advantage, as well as experience and training.
A gun is literally the only equalizer and it doesn't even balance out if both guys are trained, carrying shooters.
>>56497343
>zimmerman
>white
It's true if the media says something over and over again incessantly it will become true!
MURICA!
>>56495897
<implying niggers fight fair
>>56495897
I own a gun to kill shit, in a fight the best thing to do is fight dirty. That said, no robber or murderer is going to try and box you into submission
>>56499678
> "Ive never known a person that owns a gun and doesnt act like a faggot"
>live in FL
This logic... holy shit.
On another note, how's living life surrounded by hatians 24/7!?
>>56500483
Ive only met one hatian guy and he became a doctor... So pretty good I guess.
>fair fight
Yeah because some dude pulling a knife on you for your wallet is a "fair fight"
>>56497798
looks nice, I like how plain, single-colored it is
>>56496820
In a fight between you and Bruce Lee, I'm betting on Bruce Lee, and I think he'd make you fucking cry, dude.
'Cause I can tell from your post that you're not a real martial artist and never will be.
>>56499533
Canada has some stupid barrel length restriction bull shit
USA does too, but to a lesser extent
>implying violent shitskins ever fight fair.
>>56495897
I don't know what kind of third world shithole you need to live in to need to have guns to feel safe
It's either Big Brother or niggers. And I thought the USA was #1
Shaking my damn head to be totally honest familia
