>The Vatican has made an official request to be granted access to the 1500-year-old bible, however the bible that is said to be worth $28 million is currently held by the Turkish government securely. The holy words are hand written in Syriac in luminous gold lettering on loosely bound together animal hides. Syriac is a dialect of Aramaic – the reported native language of Jesus Christ. Aramaic itself is a nearly dead language, rarely present in today's modern society. Aramaic is only spoken in a small village near Damascus.
According to the Christian Post, merely photocopies of the holy book’s pages are being sold for a staggering $1.7 million. In addition to the age and impeccable construction of the bible, the contents of the holy book is what makes it so valuable. The Gospel of Barnabas is not included in the New Testament alongside Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
This work opposes the ideas proposed in the widely spread New Testament, and instead has noticeable similarities to the Muslim interpretation of Jesus. The Gospel of Barnabas even contains a story in which Jesus predicts the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Due to this fact, many followers of Islam believe the original gospel work was repressed by the Vatican Library.
http://www.latintimes.com/1500-year-old-bible-discovered-turkey-indicates-jesus-christ-was-not-crucified-171471
>>56480862
The gospel of Barnabas is old beans, it has been widely judged as a 14th century islamic forgery.
http://www.latintimes.com/1500-year-old-bible-discovered-turkey-indicates-jesus-christ-was-not-crucified-171471
>>56480862
>turkey
>Jesus predicts the coming of Prophet Muhammad
you're not even trying, khajiit.
>1500
We have older that don't.
>>56481439
This. Gnostics and heretics have been injecting their heresy into the Christian canon for literally centuries. Even the early church had to deal with these faggots, this is no new discovery, nor does it pose a threat to "modern Christianity".
>>56481639
I suppose I should say "attempting to inject". They were never successful.
>>56480862
sounds like dumb as shit Islamic lies
>>56481528
You realize Aramaic is still spoken in Turkey right? Also Paul the Apostle(Paul of Tarsus) was from Tarsus which is a city in Turkey. If any bible were to be found it'd be very possible to find in Turkey.
>>56481439
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas#Anachronisms
Well if Jesus said it, than it must be true. Guess Muhammad really is a prophet of God, time to read the Koran.
What translation should I read?
>>56480862
>Heretics write bible fanfic and try to pass it off as legit
>Burn in hell for all eternity for modifying God's holy word
Oh look, it's fucking nothing.
Wow, it's fucking nothing. There are also Gospels supposedly written by Judas, and the accounts of Arias. And guess what, the Church debunked them hundreds of years ago and ruled them non-canon
>fedora trying to poke holes in a 2000 year old establishment
yeah nah fuck off. This is just another attempt of heretics trying to insert their retarded ideas into the Church. They didn't listen then, they won't listen now, and I don't see any reason they'd be inclined to ever listen to this bullshit
>>56480862
>photocopies of the holy book’s pages are being sold for a staggering $1.7 million
>photocopies
>$1.7 million
This story's years old, debunked, and should have been obvious bullshit on the first reading anyway.
>>56481716
yeah, a lot of biblical sites are in Turkey because it used to be Christian until you shit skins conquered it. What is your point?
>>56481625
It sure is convenient that it dates back to the time Islam was starting out. These mudslimes aren't event trying.
>>56481716
haha... "turkeys"
Of course they won't allow anyone else to look at it. They would hardly want carbon dating performed.
You can't just pour chemicals on paper to make it look old anymore. That trick is just done. At best what they've got is from the 17th century. At worst, they've knocked it up quite recently.
Go and have a look for any mention of that particular gospel from writings post Jesus death, first and second century. Nada. Started popping up well after the rise of islam, suggested to be a forgery designed to lure christians in andalusia to the religion of their new rulers.
>>56480862
yeah the story was when Micheal kicked adam and eve out of heaven, Adam looked back and saw on what was written on the gates, "la ilaha ilah allah, muhammad rausl allah"
>1500 years
>christianity is 2000 years old
>he doesn't know about the apocrypha
lel
It's almost Christmas. Guess it's time for the leftist press to rehash anti-Christian memes. Can't run all the stories though, need to save some for Easter.
>>56481716
Tarsus was in Spain you idiot
itt heresy
>>56481920
lol it's like they took the age of their own religion and projected onto Christianity
>>56482060
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarsus,_Mersin
HURR HURR
>>56482017
1611 KJV GOAT
>>56481913
My point is exactly that, traveled around Turkey a lot when I was little and seen many really old Christian churches(some were literal caves). Also seen a church with drawing of Muhammad, most had that same Orthodox style. So it's possible to find old religious texts in here, this guy >>56482060
probably didn't know that.
>>56481959
So basically it was taqiyya.
>>56482295
It's always taqiyya
>>56482248
>saw iconography of Mohammad
no you didn't, not unless it was a mosque. I'm guessing you don't have a single shred of evidence to back up your retarded claim?
/POL/ IN FULL DENIAL MODE
CHRISTIANITY IS FINISHED
PRAISE ALLAH.
IF ANY DOUBTED THE TRUTH OF THE PROPHET I ASK DO YOU STILL?
>>56482060
>Paul is from Spain
>>56482450
i used to be a christcuc.k, but now i converted to islam and i see the truth
your reminder that the old testament was passed down orally for hundreds/thousands of years before being written down
imagine trusting current sandniggers with something that important for just a few decades
>>56482385
I thought you got beheadded for that.
>>56481864
>Photocopy it like 2000 times
>make 3.4 Billion dollars
>never need money ever again
>>56481439
This really needs more recognition. There is literally nothing in this story.
>>56482091
Yup, they don't realize that Christianity has texts that are confirmed to date back to at least 100 AD and even before then. None of these texts, and none of the religious commentary at the time from theologians ever mentioned Mohammad. All of them acknowledged Jesus as the Messiah and as the completion of Jewish prophecy. I have to give it to them though, they sure are trying to make Islam look like the continuation and completion of the Abrahamic faiths. Too bad it's literally a false religion in every way imaginary.
>>56480862
>Aramaic is only spoken in a small village near Damascus
And by all the orthodox Jews
Even I understand it
>>56482060
You're thinking of Tarshish, which is speculated to have been Tartessos.
Anyway, nothing new here. Just more Satanislamic liars.
>>56480862
>Compilers of the bible sorted through this shit and deemed it trash
>People now scream "OMG IT CONFLICTS YOUR RELIGION BTFO"
>Not realizing it was not included specifically because it didn't fit
>>56482906
>implying all religions aren't false ancient memes
>>56482587
>was never said by anyone
>>56482726
Hey, I ambivalent and if anything prefer western Christianity but the EU recently gave nigger Apefrika 5 billion and those shitskin nations manage to spend it on frivolities. What do you think Turkey would do with it that's so special?
>>56483031
Well yeah, but Islam is even more overtly false since it has absolutely no connection to ancient prophecy (like it claims).
>>56483082
Probably never have to do any work ever again cause they would be rolling in dough nigga.
>>56482587
>typical leafs fan looking for any excuse to blow himself up
ALL THESE RELIGIOUS BOOKS WERE WRITTEN BY MEN. TRANSLATED, AND MISTRANSLATED OVER TIME. CORRUPTED BY TYRANTS TO KEEP CONTROL AND START WAR.
MANKIND CANNOT EVOLVE FURTHER UNTIL ALL RELIGION IS EXTINGUISHED.
>>56481439
/thread
>>56482385
I don't really remember the name but drawings were like this and most had their face smudged in a way, but that's how most Muslims depict Muhammad anyway, with a veil on his face or a light erasing it. But there was this one Muhammad in his deathbed, wearing green robe and has white/grey beard and hair, also friends and family is around him. But like I said most drawings were basic and faces were same like this. Also as far as I know there are depictions of Muhammad with Ottoman miniatures and some old miniatures of other cultures.
I can't really remember much since I was about 13 or something but there are many churches with many names, I'm sure people of that area knows about it more than I do.
>>56483212
Fedora tipping edgelord detected.
>>56483353
Ah, I see where the confusion comes in. In Orthodox churches, halos (the "veil" or light you saw) are placed around holy people, such as saints, the Apostles, Christ, etc. I really doubt you saw Mohammed in any of them (it was most likely a Saint you saw depicted), although it is certainly possible that the Ottomans added these depictions of Mohammed later on. The Ottomans were known to alter churches so as to make Christians seem more "in tune" with Islam and therefore justify tolerating them. An example, instead of tearing down the Hagia Sophia, the Ottomans instead erected minarets and covered the iconography (instead of simply destroying it).
>>56480862
Pretty sure coming of antichrist was in the book
>bible contains noncanon book that's been declared fake for longer than the books existence
>much proof
Fuck off
>>56480862
Bullshit.
>>56483542
Jesus fuck, Ottomans didn't touch them, I saw many saints depicted, Mohammad one was depicted as Mohammad afaik not a christian saint like other ones since those halos are on the back of their heads.
These churches are old as fuck and most are actually a cave so it's not in a important location like Hagia Sophia. I believe church was there, like I said many churches so idk which one. Also depiction didn't look like this, it looked more like those old Orthodox drawings with thin and long noses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihlara
>>56483373
The fedora meme is no longer a valid counter to defend your bronze age beliefs if i am to be completely honest with you at this moment in time fammerino
>>56483006
this book wasn't accepted because it was written several hundred years after the canon was established.
>>56483006
>being such a retard that you don't realize that the bible is perhaps the most well preserved document in human history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rml5Cif01g4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYEzxD2kcGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCp-ayAp7fE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l0Say2wMw0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIdCRanZZyw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lo2kzBPOZk
>Vatican gets hold of the old bible
>it completely BTFOs the new testament
>Final Crusade begins
DEUS VULT?
>>56483559
Mohammed couldn't be the antichrist, because he didn't do anything the book said the antichrist would do. He especially didn't signal a second coming of Jesus.
That said, I'm not religious anyway- I just find it odd that christians are constantly accusing people of being the antichrist.
>>56484013
why would christians put pictures of mohammed in their churches?
>>56484013
you really expect me to believe this senpai?
>>56484023
>The fedora meme is no longer a valid counter to defend your bronze age beliefs
yeah, it is 2015 after all.
Most bible translations in use today were made before the internet.
Now with google and different websites such as biblehub and archive which has various editions of the lexicons and Greek new testaments that you can download and search for key phrases in, now's a better time than ever to undertake a revision of the bible translation to produce a more accurate rendition.
It should be done by a free but organized group that allows for user input and participation with forums like the type you find in game modding communities.
>>56484373
No idea, maybe they were on good terms with him at one point and whatnot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtiname_of_Muhammad
All I know is there are lots and lots of cave churches there and it takes some good time to travel around, but I'm sure any local would know it.
>>56484402
Believe what?
>>56484336
the mahdi, which is like the islamic messiah, has a lot of similarities to the antichirst.
I see TIDF is already here, will notify my supervisor about this redundancy..
>>56484662
marhaba benim arkadash :DDD
>>56481439
/thread
>>56484743
eşşeğin siki
>>56480862
>Turkey
>Islamic portrayals of Jesus
>1,500 years ago
Nice try, mudslime faggot. Eat some bacon.
>>56484662
>tfw AKP won't pay me to defend Turkey on internet :(
>>56484743
How could you fail at such basic translation. Also you don't have to use me/my/mine for the most part in Turkish.
>>56485160
Fuck off troll
>>56480862
If true the dune coons would be flaunting it, not hiding it.
>>56480862
Gnostic texts are well attested, and well defended against by the Church Fathers in the early Church period.
Here are man others if you're actually interested.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gnostics.html
This is nothing knew, man. Just because your sunday school teacher never explained the history of Christianity doesn't mean the Church hasn't been dealing with this shit for damn near 2000 years. It's also why apostolic teachings, and the writings of the early generations of Christians are treated as useful historical tools to sift through what was and wasn't in line with the apostles and their disciples , and their students and so on.
>>56485405
This.
Islam at its core is Gnostic heresy mixed with paganism from the Arabian Peninsula.
>>56480862
why do people always act like apocryphal books are huge news?
>>56485214
>on internet
on the* internet
lol
>being Muslim unironically
>>56485314
Not even trolling, m8. They weren't even trying to cover up this bullshit.
>>56484013
Hope you realize every single Christian holy site is going to get reconquered as soon as Christianity is united with death of Protestantism and our integrity returns.
>>56480862
So what?
Can you find a Jewish book that treats Jesus as the son of God?
No?
Then both Christian and Muslim religions are wrong.
>inb4 books from one religion shouldn't matter in another
No shit.
>>56485605
Islam is simply Arabian domination text.
>>56485605
Can anybody tell me what religion Mohamed and other Arabs from his region were before they became Muslims? After almost an hour of researching the closest answer that I could find was that they were vaguely Christian
>>56486239
Mostly pagan. That trip to Mecca they make? That used to be done for over 300 gods. A different one every day. Others had heretical Gnostic Christian beliefs.
>>56480862
>The Gospel of Barnabas even contains a story in which Jesus predicts the coming of Prophet Muhammad.
>>56486436
Interesting, that being said I'm 90% sure that Mohamed was a Gnostic Christian although he may have converted in adulthood, Mohamed was circumcised which is something Arabic Christians don't usually do which suggests that he didn't come from a Christian family.
>>56484579
>All I know is there are lots and lots of cave churches
I wish we had something so historical in our country. I'd love to visit a 1900+ year old subterranean Church.
>>56486239
Read about the satanic verses. It's very illuminating in the way Muhammad dealt with the pagan beliefs that coexisted with early islam.
Nowadays the simple fact of mentioning them can cause immense butthurt among muslims.
Basically Muhammad, in order to get acceptance from pagans, stated at one point that it was okay to worship some moon goddess (iirc), and later he retracted himself and claimed that he was possessed by satan when he said that.
>>56483353
>how most Muslims depict Muhammad
nigger what? isn't that haram
>>56486162
Yes good goy, let the hatred consume you.
>>56486778
Lots of tourists are visiting the cave churches in there, probably pretty cheap for you too, you can always take a trip. But Turkey is big enough to take some time and visit lots of places, not just churches, and there are lots of churches on other locations as well.
>>56486783
Seems plausible, the simple fact that Mohamed wasn't killed for heresy shows that he was a very diplomatic person willing to make compromises for the greater good, on the other hand a lot of people would say that The Satanic Verses is basically the Islamic version of The Davinci Code
>>56480862
>Disproven Gospel
>>56481818
This desu baka senpai
Most of the depicted with a veil, but some of them aren't, just google it.
![book-of-revelation[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LktgxBN.jpg "book-of-revelation[1].jpg")
>>56481818
And yet 99% of Christianity continues to believe that the most blatant bible fanfic is legit
>>56483031
That edge.
Why is that jerk riding a horse with a tranny head?>>56487256
>>56487446
I think that's Gabriel and it's a gazelle's body, I'm not sure.
>>56480862
>all of these neckbeard catholics who have never read the bible even halfway through dont know Islam is just a continuation of Christianity because their pedo-preacher said so
Feels good to be Traditionalist and only have to put up with DUDE BAGANRY LMAO.
>>56480862
We muslim now?
>>56487422
I like Revalations 7:3
>all these schizos quibbling over whether it's a forgery.
>all holy books are, by their standard of legit, forgeries.
>>56482295
Absolutely it was tacquitos. God's gonna have a hot summer day when those heretics die.
>>56485314
Fuck off yourself weed leaf :D
>>56480862
>TOP MEN
>>56487772
>Galatians 3
the inheritors of Abraham and the actual children of David are Christians, not by blood, but by faith.
also
>revelation 2:9 and revelation 3:9
>>56481639
Why do you think modern Gnostics have just started calling themselves "spiritual" and have hijacked progressive Christian observance?
I'm interested in modern religions merely on an objective standpoint, to read them out research, entertainment and for their mythology.
I'm an athiest but all of these different religions are kind of interesting - from an objective secular viewpoint.
>>56488644
>that Greek mentality
>modern
>>56488745
i don't get it but am hign
>>56480862
>>56481439
/thread
Repent t_b_h___f_a_m
>>56481439
aaaaaaaaand, we're done. Move along people, there's nothing to see here.
Fucking heretics trying to shit everything up.
>>56482033
Here's an early present from a mudslime acquaintance.
>>56481864
>>56480862
I got some rare bible memes hot off the xerox.
>>56482091
>lol it's like they took the age of their own religion and projected onto Christianity
Islam is essentially a corruption of Gnosticism that Muhammad used as a social tool during his conquest of western Arabia
>A text which was made WELL after the oldest papyri scripts we have, and made after the life of Muhammad
This changes nothing, but OP had me worried there for a second.
>>56480862
>>56481439
>The vatican wants an islamic forgery of the bible
Thanks progressive pope.
>>56491083
Maybe it could give us insight about the past and there may be other books there.
Would be fun to read though.
>>56490947
Just to add on this proving the Gospel is a fake (among MANY contradictions), it says Jubilee in the forgery that occurs every 100 years, not 50 years. This actually occurred under Boniface viii during the year 1300, but was changed back after 3050 under Clement vi back to 50. So, the text was either written by presumably a Muslim scholar between the year 1300 and 1350 or Barnabas was a fucking retard.
>>56481639
>Gnostics and heretics have been injecting their heresy into the Christian canon for literally centuries.
Not a nice thing to say about the Catholic church. I like the books of the bible that depict Jesus as a trickster god, using magic to play jokes on people..
That somehow wasn't accepted into the collective books of the bible for some reason.
>$28m
am I the only one surprised at how little that seems?
>>56491841
It's because he was Loki, posing as a sorcerer to turn more people to the shackles of servitude to the fire giant.
