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And a real man doesn't do it.

Full article: http://www.msicollege.com/sperm-retention-benefits-nofap/

>Most of these men try NOFAP as a last resort. Nothing else works for them, so they simply think, what harm can it do? Quickly these men realize that they’ve stumbled onto something, they begin to see what many have labelled superpowers. This consists of increased confidence, removal of depression, anxiety, fear and social awkwardness. They also report receiving huge increases in motivation for life and success, they suddenly want to do more than lie in bed and watch TV all day. I personally don’t believe in the superpowers, I believe it’s merely a man experiencing normality. The reason why it feels like superpowers for so many, is down to how familiar they became with feeling tired and negative.
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When you control your sexual impulses, women lose their power over you. It's incredibly liberating.
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>>56447187
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Bump, you all too busy looking up porn right now to post in here? Here's your reality check.
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easiest way is to go no tech

completely cancel internet subscription and throw away all personal computers and live without for the rest of your life.
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>>56447801
Hi, Mr. Lumberjack. The rest of us could possibly simply just develop some discipline. That increases manliness too.
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>>56447010
>>56447159
>>56447187
>>56447211

Yes, jerking off is degenerate but, dude, I don't think all those facts are for real.
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>>56447010
I tried NOFAP for two weeks and experienced a lot of those effects like more energy, being more focused, getting shit done.

but now i am back at fapping 2 times a day :(
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>>56448268
>Facts
Anecdotes, but lots of them. If a scientific study was conducted with a sample group the size of the no fap community I'm sure some concrete results could be gathered. Personally, I've discovered a lot of these benefits myself so I'm sure there's some accuracy here.
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>>56448639
Once you see the importance of it it's up to you to keep at it, no one else will be able to get you through this but yourself. (Although others can help)
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>>56447010

But if i don't rub one out sometimes, i get really pissed off at everything.
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>>56448268
It's probably real if you're a limp-dicked porn addict that beats off a dozen times a day.
It's doing something to excess that makes most enjoyable things degenerate.
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>>56448903

I think that's because you're serbian
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>>56448903
thats just your natural state as a Serb. Remove some kebab when you get pissed
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>>56448903
Then work out. That relieves more stress permanently as long as you keep at it. Jerking off relieves some stress temporarily and then causes more stress directly afterwards.
>>56448964
There is no purpose to it whatsoever, even doing it occasionally. You usually don't need a release. If you do it comes naturally every month and a half through a wet dream. Otherwise the sperm reabsorbs itself into the body and you start to feel the benefits.
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>>56448696
Our ability to masturbate is a contributing evolutionary factor in our developing technologies.

We still have strong biological urges to have sex and thus reproduce. But, having an easy way to relieve this as necessary without resorting constantly to males dueling for females and courtship behaviors, that investment of time and energy was put into other endeavors advancing the species.
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>>56447010

When you have 2 kids and a high sperm count as well as an extremely fertile wife, masturbation is a godsend. Seriously, if I get one tiny little droplet of sploog in her, she puffs up like a michelin blimp. Tits are nice for the first 2-3 months. plus, shes hormonal and horny as hell. but its not worth it keep popping out kids just for all that. I so dont want another kid.
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>>56449278
>>implying technology isn't degenerate within itself
just look at the kind of deviants who were involved in modern invention and science. Crazy people all around, some of them faggots
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>>56447010
not jacking off doesn't do anything besides make me horny, this is all bullshit.

I do agree with not watching the sexy jew though.
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>>56449278
The urge to have sex goes away after three weeks of no fap bro. That way you can focus on other pursuits instead of jerking or chasing girls. Tesla was celibate by the way. I'm not saying never get laid, but it can help a man make something of himself before getting married to a pure and worthy girl to start a family.
Kinda like what this guy said but less MGTOW: >>56447116
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>>56448774
i think i will try it again
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>>56449456
Then you obviously never got a good streak going, probably tried to quit for a few days to a week and felt horny as fuck as a result.
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>>56449367
>he posts this on a Canadian Syrian refugee networking board
The absolute madmeme.
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>>56447010
Whether this has something to it, I don't know, but that is the dumbest fucking page I've visited in years.
What an absolute moron the guy who wrote that must be. He actually attributes Jewish success to lack of masturbation.
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>>56447010
>no footnotes, zero credible sources provided
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>>56449666
Yeah, that part was clearly nonsense. Especially since Christianity preaches abstinence too. But the rest of it is okay.
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>>56449457
Have you seen what happens in countries and cultures that push nofap agendas though?
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so what you're saying is i should let my Goddess lock my dicklet up in chastity
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>>56449728
It's just an article concerning no fap findings, you can't expect credible sources for something that hasn't even been thoroughly studied yet. I think the first official scientific study on the subject is going on right now. You should expect the results some time next year.
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>>56447010

it's only degenerate in a failed society where you do not have a fitting hole to cum inside... without that what the fuck you gunna do? Store up so much cum you end up raping children like the mudslimes?
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>>56449819
India has been doing pretty well and they're one of the strongest on this (for the Brahmin caste at least). But arranged marriage is clearly an important component of it. No need to fap when you're guarranteed a wife at a young age.
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>>56449959
Sperm starts reabsorbing itself back into the body after two weeks of abstaining.
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>>56449819
Our country is doing the opposite, they're pushing a pro porn agenda. We all know who's behind this. And look at what it's doing to us. We're either pussified betas or sex crazed fake "alphas". A true alpha male is not a slave to pussy. He succeeds in life, gets a proper pure virgin wife, and has children. No fap is a personal choice here, it's not being pushed on anyone just recommended. No need to pretend like anyone's being forced not to jerk.
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>plebs who dont know how to tantra
get on my level
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>>56450486
Tantra was always a tiny batshit insane sect of buddhism, and never the norm. The average buddhist practiced marriage and abstinence unless they were a monk who would commit to celibacy. Tantra was only popularized in the west as a form of feminist hippie degeneracy .
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>>56447010
Ok so how do you go about not fapping ever again? Can't hurt to try....
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>>56450695
cut off internet access except in public places
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In this article, OP is BTFO: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/the-stars-who-are-bad-for-your-health-2171132.html

>The report was equally sceptical of cage fighter Alex Reid's claim that unprotected sex without ejaculating helped him prepare before a match because "reabsorbing" the sperm had the nutritional value of steak, eggs, lemons and oranges. Reminding him of the dangers of unprotected sex, Professor John Aplin said sperm cannot be reabsorbed once it had left the testes, adding: "The nutritional content of the ejaculate is really rather small."
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>>56450863
the thing isn't nutritional value it's about hormonal drops and zinc loss cause by ejaculation. "reabsorbing" isn't really that, it's more hormonal
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>>56450695
No more 4chan. I mean that. I only came here to make this thread, haven't actually posted anything else on here in a while and removed the site from my bookmarks. There's too much porn posted on here. Browse sites that you know are SFW. And don't spend too much time on the internet. Go outside, live your life, engage in your hobbies, etc. Don't fantasize too much, don't ever touch your dick unless necessary. Keep your mind and body clean, working out is also vital. I'd say it's the most important thing really.
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>>56450863
Go back to jerking off, see where that gets you. Meanwhile I'm gonna make something of myself. I've already read all the studies telling me masturbation is healthy, convinced myself to start jerking again and started feeling like shit instantly afterwards. I'm fucking done with that cycle.
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ITT: Idiots who don't know the first thing about how the human body works.

I'm really not surprised /pol/ is so low on those IQ stats released.
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>>56450657
>this thing i dont like is somehow linked to lefists and degeneracy
never change /pol/

one of the first people to popularize tantra in the west was Aleister Crowley, who was anti-Semitic and misogynistic as fuck.
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>>56451096
It's more than just zinc, and yeah hormonal levels/testosterone balances out.
https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
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>>56451587
Illuminati man, why should he be trusted.
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Reminder that NoFap is purely placebo.
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>>56447010
jerking off excessively is degenerate. porn is even more degenerate. i associate men who jerk off to porn as losers and terrible in bed.
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>>56447010
>a real man doesn't

>Masturbate
>drink
>have a job
>do drugs
>talk to the traitorous female enemy of MANkind
>eat meat
>drink milk
>abstain vaccines

And probably a dozen other retarded practices that borders on being a cultist.
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>>56451588
Those mg levels are pretty fucking tiny.
>>56451096
I see the study that found higher testosterone levels in men after they abstain for three weeks. They also don't understand the mechanism behind this.
It's important to understand that more testosterone is not necessarily better for everyone.
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>>56451729
By all means keep jerking, see what happens.
>>56451777
A real man doesn't:
>Masturbate
true
>drink
social drinking is okay although I don't partake in it myself, alcoholics are failures at life
>have a job
A real man has a job, a winner has a good job. A successful man is usually a healthy man.
>do drugs
drugs fuck your shit up
>get with women
A pathetic lowlife gets with sluts. A real man gets with a pure girl and makes babies with her.
>eat meat
vegetarians are weak, meat eaters are strong which is what a real man should be
>drink milk
If one isn't lactose intolerant milk should be drunk.
>abstain vaccines
not sure about this one
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>All these nofap shills
Remind me again, is this /fit/ or /r9k/? In any case I want them to go and stay go.
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>>56451588
So I should be taking both zinc + calcium suppliments while on nofap. I've just been taking zinc.
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>>56452270
I dont jerk off, I'd rather bong with my britbong partner.
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>>56452229
>tiny
So what? You're draining yourself of them if you jerk of too much. I've even fapped once after a long streak and immediately felt like I was missing something in my system. It's noticeable is all I'm saying.
>More testosterone is not better
lolwut, you do realize testosterone is what keeps you a composed individual right, not to mention the benefits of improved physical strength.
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>>56452364
I've been taking vitamin gummies, only until my bottle runs out. After that I'm done with supplements since they're not good for you in the long run. Better to get it from a real diet.
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>>56447010
I agree. I was recently born again as a true Christian and I decided to stop drinking (I drank a six pack a day for 3 months straight) and stop masturbating (something I've done multiple times a day since I was like 13) and it's extremely hard to do but my desire to drink was straight up removed. It was insane. Every time I look at a woman now though I just want to fuck her. 4/10s before are now 8/10s. It's real hard no pun intended but it's very well worth it.
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>>56451777
vaccinated vegekuck drone detected
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I tried NoFap last year and it fucked me over.

I can only last about five minutes now instead of my usual 30-45 minutes.

Cured my death grip I guess.
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>>56452484
>More testosterone is not better FOR EVERYONE
Your post turns into a strawman when you take off the "for everyone" like that. Don't do that.
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>>56452887
But it is better for everyone.
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READ THE BOOK THE MULTI-ORGASMIC MAN. GOOGLE THE PDF.. IT'S SHORT AND EASY TO READ.

Seriously, every single man on here should read that book. It changed my life forever.

It tells you everything you need to know about nofap and sex.

Basically: Your body produces sexual energy, or "Chi." Jacking off once removes 50% of your "chi." Jacking off twice and you're at about 0%. In your twenties, it takes 4 days to restore your "chi." As you get older, it takes longer. Men in their sixties should no longer ejaculate.

When you have built up your chi, you can apply it to anything. Talking to women, making music, labor, studying....it's like a gift from the gods.

If you jack off too much, you will constantly be at 50% of what you should be and will never reach your potential.
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>>56452484
>So what? You're draining yourself of them if you jerk of too much.
If you're eating healthy there's no way 1-2 times per day is going to seriously affect your health at those mg levels. More than that, though, and I'd be worried about you from more than just a nutritional and hormonal standpoint.
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>>56447010
>read article
>literally only anecdotal evidence
into the trash it goes
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>>56452990
this would imply that having sex with your wife nightly is also degenerate, which is bullshit if you're married

Eastern mysticism is bullshit but that doesn't take away from the fact that fapping is bad.
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>>56452961
There's plenty of well-documented negative medical side effects from excess testosterone which you're welcome to Google if you like. Suffice to say, you are wrong.
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>>56453145
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>>56453214
Post it then.
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>>56453292
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=too+much+testosterone
You are wrong.
Note: this is all you're getting out of me. I know better than to put effort in replies to trolls.
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>be me, chronic masturbator
>fuck for 2 hours a couple days ago
>couldn't get off
>receive pic related

I've gone 2-3 days without jerking off for the first time since I was 11 and I feel a lot better.
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>>56450037
>India has been doing pretty well
>rape capital of the world
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But I don't want prostate cancer.
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>>56448639
I agree.

I tried no fap but it's too hard.

Honestly, i don't feel motivation to do anything anymore.
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>>56447010
>only edging since 3 months
>Total nofap since 1 week
So far so good.
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>>56452990
>jerk off a 3rd time
>have -50% chi
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>>56453965
try cancelling internet and only using it in public places for as long as it takes
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>>56453757
>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=too+much+testosterone
>Let me google that for you
>troll
I shouldn't even give you the time of day, but these results come from testosterone imbalance. Jerking off by the way is one of the causes of testosterone imbalance. If abstinence boosts testosterone it's in a natural and healthy way, there's absolutely no harm in it.
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>>56451587
He was also a degenerate satanic faggot
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>>56453962
Abstinence doesn't give you prostate cancer, jerking off too much when young increases the risk of prostate cancer as a matter of fact. There's something about jerking off being healthy during old age because it flushes out toxins from the body but I wouldn't know since I'm not old. If you're under the age of 40 you shouldn't be jerking off.
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>>56453978
Don't edge either, it ain't good for you.
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>>56454318
>already have excess testosterone for whatever reason, unaware of it
>some random anon posts LOL STOP FAPPING TO BE HEALTHIER on 4chan
>believe it, make your pre-existing problem worse
It's possible. Just saying.
One should take medical advice from their doctor, not 4chan.
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>>56454480
Yeah prostate cancer was my main concern. And the fact that blue balls are really annoying.
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>>56454602
how so? (I stopped anyway).
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>>56451777
>>56452270
>follow any religion besides Islam

Forgot the most important one tbqhwy senpaitachi
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>>56454605
You don't seem to get it. If you stop jerking off your testosterone levels will return to a healthy, balanced level.
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>>56454724
>implying that ejaculation is the sole variable in testosterone levels
Your logic is fucking terrible.
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>>56454622
I don't get blue balls anymore since I don't fantasize about banging girls anymore. If I see a girl and I start thinking about sex I simply think about something else. My erections have gotten way bigger too but I rarely let myself get one anymore since it leads to fap, just some morningwood is okay to keep the muscle exercised.
>>56454697
It fucks with your prostate, might as well blow your load at that point. You either don't do it all or you ejaculate. There's no middle ground, but it's good you stopped. Eventually the tension will relieve itself in a wet dream anyway.
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>>56454480
Well shit, think I'll try nofap for longer than a week then. Keeping my porn collection though so I have something to trade after the collapse.
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>>56454907
Just fuck off if you don't want to accept what I'm saying then.
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>>56455002
This is a start. If you take a liking to no fap you'll eventually have to delete that porn collection though. I remember having a porn folder that I kept for an entire year before eventually getting rid of it knowing full well I'd never fap again.
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>>56452744
This. it's like I'm in heat, I'm creeping on everyone. I feel less strength in my ability to stay faithful to my partner too
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>>56455034
>being this mad that I exposed your terrible logic
I will "fuck off" now that I've succeeded in making you, the OP, look like an idiot.
Remember, kids, take medical advice from your doctor, not 4chan.
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>>56452990
>2015
>taking chi seriously
its just some ancient japan shit reinvented by hipsters
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>>56455323
Working out helps too, but fuck you. Stay in your shit if you like. People who don't want to accept help aren't worth my time.
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>>56455309
Make love to your partner, problem solved.
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>>56447010
>http://www.msicollege.com/sperm-retention-benefits-nofap/
>>56447159
>>56447187
>>56447211


keep posting more
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>>56449201
>sperm reabsorbes in the body

Hahaha top fucking kek, I knew the no fap movement consisted out of beta pussies but this is just batshit insane.

It doesn't work like that anon
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>>56447010
>increased confidence, removal of depression, anxiety, fear and social awkwardness. They also report receiving huge increases in motivation for life and success


What a crock of shit.
I never felt lonely in my whole life before I started doing nofap. I seriously didn't know that a feeling like that really exists, but when I stopped masturbating, being alone just crushed my mood.
If anything, I became more anxious and depressed.
It didn't feel more motivated either.
I would say that the constant horniness made me a little more confident, but that's the only only good thing 40 days of nofap brought me.

No sense of accomplishment, no motivation to get better, it was just a huge distraction that kept me from going on with my daily routine and being productive.
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>>56455770
agreed.

this is worst than feminism really.

alpha males jerk off 10 times a day and stay at max energy. this stuff about nofap is for chumps.

im sure you run out of energy if you're a "worker ant" - but if you're good stock, good sperm, you have unlimited juice. just keep eating onion rings / gatorade or biting on a lemon / eating steaks + asparagus.

This keeps your sperm stock good. then find reddit users and their girlfriends. just agree to "hang out" with them.
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>>56447159
>>56447187
>>56447211
proofs?
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>>56452990
Can I shoot energy blasts witht this energy?
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>>56456006
This.

The real problem is inferring that sexual denial somehow makes you into a discliplined person.

In reality, sexual strength is "use it or lose it"

If you just nofap after 40 days - you'll be weakened *critically*.

You guys truly need to research your *fundamentals*.
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>>56447010
I jerk off once or twice a day and I have sex. Some days I get a BJ other days I just fuck. I would say that 8 or 10 days I'll jerk off and fuck in the same fucking day. Explain that? Anyone care too? Oh and to add to this jerking off also helps me last longer in bed.
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>>56456006
So you were sexually hungary when not fapping?
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>>56447010
>NEETfags and /r9k/ rejects think nofap causes good things
>don't realize the disappearance of Sexual urges is the body'S physiological response to the lack of ejaculating over a long period.
>sperm production plummets because the ones being made aren't being used, the proteins released by the dying masses of cum cause a form of self-induced temporary sterilization
>this also simultaneously causes a self induced Erectile Dysfunction as your libido is no longer being triggered by ANY THING
>what you experience on nofap is just your body's resignation to the fact that not even YOU want to fuck you anymore, so that entire system becomes obsolete
>you are reconditioning yourself to be an asexual, reproductive failure

But please continue convincing yourselves that it grants you 'superpowers'.

Fucking LOL.
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>>56451139
Doing any of the following things can lead to a better life:
Stop eat some much junk
Stop watching so much tv
Stop driving so much take a bike
Stop being on the computer for so long
Stop being a workaholic
Stop going to the movies
Stop drinking

You notice anything? Well if you didn't let me explain it. Anything that is excessive is usually bad for your health. If you are jerking off 10 times a day and are thinking about porn constantly well you are being extremely excessive and obsessive. Its not good for you.
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> try nofap for 3 months
> test levels plummet

Nofap is dangerous if you're a serious athlete

You should only do nofap if you're a neet and don't need normal functioning test levels
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>>56447010
I can attest to nofap superpowers having participated in nofap feb 2010. However, there are side effects such as increased likelihood to act on degenerate fantasies and also rape. Surely there must be a happy medium.
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>>56456318
Weak Carlos desu.
And I wouldn't necessarily say that. The horniness wasn't really a problem, I could handle that, but it also made me much more emotional. It's not a nice state to be in.
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>>56455757
That all comes from the article, link's in the OP. This is a less science heavy article though, it's just entry level stuff.
>>56456132
Try it yourself and see how you feel.
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>>56452990
Jackie Chan in Jacking Chan.
50% Jacking 50% Chi 100% Jackie Chan
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>>56456299
My dick is bigger after going through with no fap for a while than it was when I was jerking off routinely.
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>>56456583
Anybody have anything to say about this?
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>>56449362
>only having 2 kids
It's like you want to kill the white race.
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>>56456949
>ap for a while than it was when I was jerking off routinely.
>>56456848
give me links
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>>56456629
>Stop going to the movies
huh
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>>56456949
Bigger? I doubt it. It just depends on how hard of an erection you get. Sometimes my cock isn't at 100% i'd say more like 80% sometimes I can get it to 100% strength and it does get bigger.

I also jerk off every day.
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>>56457087
movies are degenerate and a waste of money
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>>56456648
I don't know. While working out and jerking off I was only making slight progress. While working out during no fap my muscle mass has made significantly more progress.
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Got to admit, when I don't wank for a week or two a feel much better.

Its like being 15 again wanting to fucking anything that moves and getting random boners.

Gets difficult as fuck though.
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>>56457099
My dick was about 5-5.5 inches while fapping and that was when fully erect. I can go 6 inches easily now.
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>>56451503
>he thinks there has been a study on 4chan interboard IQs
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>>56456997
I haven't experienced it. My load after a month of no fap is viscous and takes a few good squirts to get out. And as I've already mentioned, more poweful erections.
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>>56452229
>more testosterone is not necessarily better for everyone
That's true. It makes women grow beards.
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>>56456997
Of course they dont. Acknowledging the truth hurts for a lot of people, especially when it directly contradicts their personal narrarive.
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>>56457443
Longest I've spent non fapping was two weeks and my cum was thick as fuck. I wonder what one month would do.
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>>56457313
this

maybe if i stop fapping tho ill finally lose my virginity because ill be too horney to be anxious
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>>56456997
It's bullshit. After a month of nofap I was a drooling, mouth-breathing rapist.
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>>56449842
Yes goyim! Nothing is manlier!

Don't worry, Jamal is such an emasculated degenerate for fucking your wife!
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>>56457622
>>56457443
My cum is usually thickest after fapping alot then stopping for a day.

Literally shoot globs upon globs over my head when usually i can only shoot up to my neck.
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>>56449842
You're submissive like this as a result of jerking off too much. If you gave it a break you'd get manly enough to feel dominant again. Porn has seriously fucked with the mentality and physicality of modern day men.
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>>56451269

This is actually a symptom of depression. Funny how everyone who does nofap is depressed, isn't it? I used to feel like shit after fapping, but after I accepted I had depression and did something about it, those bad feelings went away. Fapping for me now relieves stress like it should (It really helps me sleep well). You feel bad after fapping because that's when guilt and regret set in. You feel bad because, one, you're depressed, and two, you're alone. Sex and masturbation give the same result, it's insane to think masturbation could make you depressed.
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>>56458048
I did get depression/OCD as soon as I started jerking off and the depression started going away as soon as I went no fap. The OCD has also gotten way better and will probably disappear soon. This is what happens when the chemical reactions in the brain get fixed when hormones are kept in check. This is the healthiest I've felt since I was a kid.
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Tried this shit twice. Lasted 5 days the first time and a week the second time. There was no improvement and all that happens is you end up sexually frustrated. It's bullshit.
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>>56458285

I have both OCD and depression, but I've had them since childhood. You've just fooled yourself into thinking you're fine, it's a placebo, you've given yourself false hope. You need treatment for your mental disorders. Feeling guilty after masturbation is a symptom of depression and OCD. You feel bad because afterwards because either you think what you did is wrong, or you realise you're alone. You might think it was a waste of time, or you could be sexually repressed (Straight people can repress their sexuality too).

As I said, I used to feel shit after I masturbated, but it was my mental disorders that were doing that. I mentioned it to my GP and had my hormones tested after masturbating, and they found nothing. I ended up talking to a sex therapist who agreed with my psychiatrist, that it was a symptom of my mental disorders.
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CHRIST.

Medfag here. The ignorance here sickens me.

There are no proper studies for this sort of thing, and the closest you'll get is this based post. >>56451674

The effects OP stated are purely confirmation bias and placebo. This whole talk about 're balancing testosterone' from nofap is completely bullshit when thinking of the benefits. Testosterone doesn't need to be higher, balance or not.

Wet dreams exist as a minimum requirement for the body to release things and keep the system healthy. So long as you're not keeping your body severely drained (I'm talking like 3+ a day) you'll be fine, unless you have an extremely poor diet but even once a day is absolutely fine.

I've gone nofap before, and the impact is absolutely minimal. After you get over the first few days, you'll get a boner at everything, go from lasting 30 minutes to 30 seconds, and be generally frustrated as fuck. It levels out after a couple of weeks when your brain realises you're an evolutionary failure for not getting any.
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There has never been an actual scientific study group of the effects of masturbation and if there was it would be considered beneficial regardless. Anything you post is nothing but hearsay and opinions. Its the same shit as the penis enlargement commericals. Its clickbait, and its bullshit
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>>56451674
>are not problematic
>uses the word 'problematic'
Dropped
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>>56459105

Seriously ni- oh, an Australian. Carry on.
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>>56458866
Medfag here again.

All of the 'positive benefits' people are reporting such as better erections, less mindfog, etc.

These are temporary benefits that exist between about 1 and 3 weeks of nofap, and it's your body upping the stakes to try and get you some puss.

This shit (however minimal) disappears pretty quickly when your body gives up.
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I didn't jerk it for three days and my load was so huge I damn near drowned my GF.. just sayin
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>>56459267
>>56458866
I want to believe you, but that flag though.
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>>56458866
The psychological effects of not being a degenerate, increased testosterone and libido, and higher energy due to not going constantly at it are not a placebo you fucking schlemiel.
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>>56458866
>It levels out after a couple of weeks when your brain realises you're an evolutionary failure for not getting any

Kek
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>>56459267
>This shit (however minimal) disappears pretty quickly when your body gives up.
I hope I never get sick and need to go to you if this is the kind of conclusions you come up with you fucking quack.
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>>56458866
>>56459267
>medfag here
>im going to school right now for medicine so im super smart.
>there have been no pharmaceutical controlled studies on the issue so that means its wrong
>trust me im a doctor
okay bro thanks.
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>>56459523
Think nothing of the flag. I'm an MD, just like everyone in CA/US
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>le high energy myth

What the fuck are you talking about? What energy? The energy you get from food? Qi energy? Either you feel tired or you don't. Shut the hell up.
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Masturbating is The Way of The C.uck
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>>56459753
He literally states
>There are no proper studies for this sort of thing
and then in the next sentence
>The effects OP stated are purely confirmation bias and placebo.
as if he could know for certain.

Just another Aussie shitposting, move along people.
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>>56459835
http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2013/04/24/why-do-men-feel-sleepy-after-sex-prolactin-oxytocin-vasopressin-et-al/
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>>56459267
I masturbate frequently and, in all seriousness, it really is almost like a different experience every time. The analysis always seems to work with this oversimplistic model of how this happens. Sometimes I emerge exhausted or asleep, but sometimes highly energized and artistically inspired, and sometimes my energy is the same.
Perfect your diet, exercise more, pay attention to your mood going in to the arms of the lilitu -- do not masturbate for escapism or sadness, do it deliberately -- and spend as much time as you can analyzing your fantasies and understanding why you like what you like, never accept it as a given.
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>>56447159
>>56447187
>>56447211

I've only noticed
>More energy
>less depressed
>confidence
>happier
>better social skills
>deeper voice
>thicker (harder) dick
I want to go back but it's hard to get over the first few days..
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>>56460086

Funny because I used to jerk off at night before bed and couldn't get to sleep. Now I do it in the late afternoon/evening. It's all bullshit, everything these fuckers write.
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>>56460086
Do you jerk off in the middle of the day?
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>>56460421
>my personal anecdotes have value
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>>56460563
"Day" is irrelevant to me. I haven't worked for 6 months (start new job next week). In fact, it's 2245 and I'm already up for the day.
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I've tried no-fap for months and I've also jerked it twice a day. The differences were extremely minor, probably just that if I was jerking regularly I could last longer during sex and got hard quicker.
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>>56460421
I get what you mean, but they do mean like, sex. The actual act of sex and then cumming makes you sleepy because it's more exhausting.
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>>56447010
But it's alright for me to flick my bean? Neat.
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I stopped jacking off for a few of months once. Absolutely nothing changed whatsoever.
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>jerk off like 15 times a day
>more manly simply via genetics than 99% of people who do nofap
I'm just glad I was born before the era where men stopped being able to grow beards, are 5'6 on average, and have petite bodies.
Not sure what the fuck happened to you guys, but I do feel sorry for you.
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>>56461359
>>jerk off like 15 times a day
>>more manly simply via genetics than 99% of people who do nofap

pretty much this

i already have a deep voice. big dick. get lots of pupssy (i just make an okcupid and get mostly hot girls)

then i go back every night and realx and get a massage

i use elance and make about 10k a week

jerk off hourly
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>>56461966
I think it matters more how much you fapped and/or used porn during sexual development.

if you're already adult the worst effects are psychological only, but if you did it while you needed the testosterone to develop male secondary characteristics you're fucked for life
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>>56462212
>Literally too busy jerking off to leave my room when I was going through puberty
>Only time I left my room was to ask my dad to fix my computer because I ended up going down a porn rabbit hole and fucking my shit up with viruses
Still manlier than most men. Life isn't fair, and I don't take pride in my God given superiority, but it is what it is.
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>>56458852
>treatment
>drugs
Instead of getting healthy the natural way, yeah no.
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>>56461359
This means nothing. I'm 6'4'', muscular, have a strong jaw, and deep voice. It doesn't change the state I was in while jerking off which was weaker feeling, constantly tired, and more feminine. Now that I stopped I feel stronger, always have energy, and I'm more masculine. Genetics only take you so far.
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>>56451674
I once tried NoFap for 32 days, and saw almost no changes from my previous fapping habits (I fap like once a day before sleeping, or once every 2 days when I don't feel like it)

So yea, for me NoFap is bullshit.
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>>56447010

Buy yourself a can of NOFAP today!
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Oh, shit. This is real.
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>>56458866
I think what a lot of people fail to recognize about nofap is that not masturbating is more mential conditioning than physical conditioning. Masturbation as I define it (and I know this is not what a dictionary would say this is just how I define it for myself) is self pleasure that accomplishes nothing. In this sense jerking your dick is just a symptom of masturbation, but not the entire problem in and of itself. I think that people would most likely see a lot of the improvements listed if they tried to remove all of the hedonistic pleasures in their life as much as possible. Because humans are a fallible species we must concede that it will always be impossible to remove all meaningless activities in our lives, but striving to be the best you can be will bring you further than living in complacency. To relate this closer to the topic at hand I would explain that it is far better to use your sexual energy to produce pleasure in a relationship with your partner, further solidifying your bond together, rather than indulging in masturbation/meaningless sex. Obviously this is not always possible for some people and the body has certain needs that need to be met, but striving to be better is always a worthwhile goal.
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>>56451503
You do realize the IQ test on 4chan was just a joke right? Though I guess the fact that you didnt realize that and the fact that you post on /pol/ really does confirm that we are the most retarded board.
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>>56466626
how many nofappers would be willing to completely fast from technology and internet use?

this is a bigger problem
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Every time I've tried it, I lose my mind at day 5 and basically become a potential rapist.
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I guess I'll give it a shot.
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>>56447010
>>56447159
>>56447187
>>56447211

Where are the studies to back these claims?
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>>56449362
>what are condomes.
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>>56468971
some guy from your country came on /pol/ a few months back and said he was a part of a group of scientists studying it. His posts were extremely detailed and actually covered the jist of the science backing their theory and what they were witnessing.

the stuff he said was intriguing enough that I spoke about it with a few of my buddies in grad school for similar fields. They were intrigued definitely. I really wish I could find the thread or remember more but whether or not you believe me is irrelevant
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youre supposed to have a woman to fuck everyday.

get a wife losers.
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>>56458852

>muh placeburr effect

If it works, it fucking works.
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>>56453782
This happened to me too. I fap way too much, and now my gf thinks I don't find her attractive because I can't cum in a reasonable time.
I'm 3 days into no fap, feeling really good. All of the porn on 4chan doesn't help though.
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>>56456997
I stopped fapping for a month. As a result I joined a judo club, quit my slave job, began a novel which; is well under way presently, and enjoyed more restful/shorter sleeps. Returning to fapping I noticed my writing productivity drop tremendously, my aggression in the dojo disappear and my overall virility diminish.
Maybe it's not for everyone but omitting sexual desires and thoughts from my life really aided in setting my life on a track that I believe to be worth following.
If you are abstaining from masturbating but feverishly dwelling on your suffocating desire to fornicate and fawning over passing females you are doing it wrong.
Abstinence begins in the mind, that is where your energy is being lost, through the mental gymnastics you undergo in an attempt to justify your lack of acceptance in the sexual arena.
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>>56470439
try abstaining from internet use entirely. consider canceling your subscription, saving money and only using it in public places like libraries
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>>56466626
Well worded, I agree.
>>56467575
I was actually considering this very thing today. I believe it would be beneficial, but even the thought is daunting.
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Nofap doesn't give you any special powers or energy. I couldn't get it up during hook ups from too much fapping so I went nofap no porn for a year.

Tbh it's the porn that's the real issue if you can't raise the flag. But nofap definitely helped fix my my junk.
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The benefits are legit, but it's so difficult!
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>>56470785
I'm an electrical engineering student, I'm starting to feel guilt and regret about my profession and interest I've studied for so long. I'm starting to think electricity and technology was a mistake and I should go live in the woods like the Amish after I save up for a few years.

of course I'd be a hypocrite and I wouldn't last a week living without power
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>>56470439
I jerk off like once a day, two if I'm really bored. My girlfriend would complain if I didn't last longer than 5 minutes, I've never heard a chick complain you lasted too long. For women, the sex itself is the best part, for us it's the climax.
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>>56447010
It's not like I can really enjoy it anyways :/
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