Why don't young white males care about society anymore?
Are you one of them?
>>55938241
because its easier not giving a shit about society and i can actually get shit done
>>55938241
I care about my immediate society of my friends, family and peers. I do not care about "mainstream society" because it is actively seeking to destroy me and everything that I hold dear.
>>55938241
To much world news constantly streamed into your face and anyone would get numb.......better rob the hood and do some jail time to desensitize myself.
>>55938241
Because in general society comes across as anti-white male.
Because we don't like the brain-dead, suicidal society we have today.
http://cyber.eserver.org/unabom.txt
tl;dr -- it's bad for you
society offers nothing to us anymore
I isolate myself and and absorb as much of the white man's successes (art, technology) before it all disappears
>>55938241
Too stressful, too much opposition, Nothing worth fighting for. When the bombs come, we all die. With big brother here, we cannot live. We can become slaves to a machine, its wheels greased with the blood of the fallen. We have to step on our brothers toes, in order to stand on our own two feet.
>>55938588
Hitler dubs, I agree but I also actively red pill everyone I can
How can you care about a society when you are a victim of said society? A man just got arrested in Toronto for hate speech. All he did was condemn terror attacks. In Germany you cant even talk about anything Nazi relsted without getting arrested. In France you get shot just for going to a rock show. In America you get hounded by college nerd niggers because some hoodlem got shot by a white cop.
Whats happening isthe Jews won in creating their ultra left, anto christ society. Its over mate.
I feel helpless honeslty
Liberals are taking over, guns will probably be gone in my lifetime, my home state of texas is going to be a Hispanic majority in the next 20 years
white people are fucked
>>55938241
>Why don't young white males care about society anymore?
Because society doesn't care about young white men anymore.
Why work or fight for people that hate you?
Because there's no reason to. Neither women nor society in general value the responsible, monogamous, family man. You're either an alpha stud who bangs tons of women and gives no fucks or you're a beta who checks out of society and perpetuates his teenage years. Neither has a good incentive to risk his finances by marriage If you have no family you don't need to work super hard in a career when you might as well do as little as possible to survive.
>>55938426
What is American Crime about?
I am, but more and more I've been realizing that I'm part of the problem. At the very least, I've made it my goal to marry a pretty white girl, own a home, and have pretty white children.
>>55938241
No reward for the effort/ risk.
>>55938990
Hispanic Texan here, the American spirit lives on.
>>55938241
>young white males don't care about society anymore
What's there to care about? Western Society is now run by a bunch of SJW kucks who will ostracize you if you speak the truth. We no longer have any values other than "MUH DIVERSITY". There's nothing to fight for. Nothing to feel proud of.
Why care about a society when there's nothing left worth caring about?
>>55939053
black guys fucking white women
>>55939036
Let's not forget the horrible divorce and child support laws in the US that will bankrupt any man.
Plus the tax code punishes you before you even make decent money.
Basically the middle class is beyond fucked.
It only pays to be rich or get neet bux from the government.
>>55939152
Oy Vey!
We've spent our entire lives being hated and filled with guilt. White guilt, male guilt, libtards in general thinking everything about us is what is hurting society. So we said fuck it. We don't need you. I don't need a liberated cunt of a woman who is going to cheat with Jamal and take half my shit. I don't need every fucking nonwhite person to make jokes at my race's expense and if I take a jab back get called a racist xenophobe. White hate, male hate is what happened. So you know what? I'll take what I earn, keep to myself and not support some entitled cunt of a feminist where I have no rights in my home. I'm not going to be guilted by people of all other races around me. I got a vasectomy, I fuck sluts and spend all my money on selfish desires.
Rest if the world, this is the world you wanted when you hated us, cheated on us, made racist jokes about us, etc. Fucking deal with achmed raping you and imposing their much culture on you. You took our culture away.
>>55938241
Because society, including white females, have explicitly asked white males to leave. Why would you paint a house you are being evicted from? White males are not wanted, but have nowhere to leave to. It's a catch 22 that leads to a lot of listless white male NEETs
>>55938990
Daily reminder defeatism is the tool of the enemy.
I can't change the world. I can only vote and make my family strong.
This is my part. Are you doing yours?
Because smoking weed and beating off all day while playing fallout 4 is way more fun than having a gf. All that work, all that talking, all that pretending to be cool just to maybe get sex is just not worth the time and effort.
What is wrong with you defeatist faggots? Do you even realize what your forefathers achieved? What hardships they endured? And you're all just giving up without so much as a fight?
Absolutely disgusting. Your lineage was forged in the frost of Mother Europe. Fucking act like it you fairies.
If a bunch of defeatist pussies is what we've all collectively become, then we deserve our inevitable extinction.
>>55939896
That might help you sleep at night, but no vidya is as satisfying as having your dick buried balls deep in a woman's ass. That's the cold hard truth.
>>55940087
yeah im sure you would know
>>55938241
I definitely don't. I care deeply about my small circle of friends and family, but outside that I'm done caring. I've had my idealist phase but I grew out of that REALLY quickly
>>55938241
As a white male, I like anyone has to compete for the limited resources in civilization. The lazier, shittier, more degenerate my competition gets, the easier it is for me to succeed.
I have worked many jobs and I have always found this to be true. I get promoted for just caring a little bit, which puts me miles ahead of others that I work with.
>>55940087
>putting your dick in shit
>>55940144
Brace yourself for "BRO U DONT EVEN KNO HOW MUCH PUSSY I GET I AM THE PUSSY MASTER STAY MAD BETA VIRGIN"
>>55938241
>Why don't young white males care about society anymore?
Because no one cares about them, and caring for each other should be reciprocal and not simply demanded.
>Are you one of them?
Yes, I guess I'm not that young anymore at 32 but I'm a MGTOW and have been for about 3-4 years now.
Feminists through the proxy violence of the state have made traditional values such as long term monogamous relationships, marriage and children fundamentally undesireable things for young men, so men are opting out and instead simply focusing on their own best self interests, securing enough money to live on your own and buy enough beer and vidya.
You can misleadingly try and solve a lot of things with state violence, such as poverty, the economy, healthcare, single parenthood, etc. But the thing that everyone universally agrees you cannot fix with violence is love, pairbonding, and raising children, those things necessarily have to be done voluntarily and men are walking away from those things because the system is overwhelmingly stacked against them.
Where are his nudes
>>55940087
never had shit on ye pipe mate
While I agree with most of the people here we are taking the wrong approach. If we don't fight back its an automatic lose. The biggest problem we have is too many of us rather sacrifice our values, rights and logic for pussy. We need to stand unified and stop dating feminist and socialist women. I am a little bit older then some of you (approaching 30). Women get real desperate when they are unable to find a men. We can easily force women to change their ways if we turn our back on them. But right now women have a never ending gauntlet of cocks to pick from in their teens and 20s.
because being a white man is the hardest role in society today. you're blamed for everything, praised for nothing, and literally everyone wants you dead. why wouldn't we be completely apathetic?
>>55940144
BRO U DONT EVEN KNO HOW MUCH PUSSY I GET I AM THE PUSSY MASTER STAY MAD BETA VIRGIN
>>55938241
because it isn't homogenous and empty consumer culture is the dominant force.
>>55938241
>Why don't young white males care about society anymore?
Why should we care? We're expected to shoulder the burden of a society that tells us how oppressive and terrible we are. The very fact that anyone even asks this question is evidence that we're just a pack animal for them to throw all their responsibilities on to when their lives get too hard.
Fuck 'em. I'm not shouldering their load anymore.They can carry it themselves or buckle under its weight. If I'm not allowed to be proud of who I am or what I do then I'd rather do drugs and play videogames.
>>55938241
Because the future isn't worth defending.
The world is going to turn into a global third world shit hole ruled by homosexuals or Muslims depending on what part of the planet you're on.
Have fun, making movies or video games for a living, eat, screw and die.
>>55938241
because white society betrayed us?
Think about it,who accept the jewish marxism and diversity shit?
who pushes for it instead of fighting back?
who labels you as everything bad in the world for not being a blind liberal idiot?
who loves to fight and destroy their own race?
whos woman have become the worlds biggest whores and trash?
All whites.
Maybe there are reasonable decent whites left but thats a big minority.
>>55940678
standing up for yourself is pretty hard when you're a pussy.
>>55939205
Another spic here.if you want guns then you don't want Hispanic majority spic are known supporter of gun control.I am pro gun as hell and the only people I could ralate to are whites
lol, you people take the SJW shit to seriously. Being white and male
Is not hard at all irl. The real reason young men are dropping out of society is the exact same reason SJWs exist - deep spiritual and cultural malaise. Western civ is in its death throes. No one has any thing to live for. Take comfort in the fact SJWs are just as miserable as you are, for the same essential reasons.
>>55941166
speak for yourself, bro. this is a war we won't win. the world and the leaders have already decided that the white race should be exterminated for our sins. you of all people should be aware of this with your new fancy PM.
>>55940596
Honestly, fucking a girl in the ass sucks after the novelty wears off.
After I blow a load, I want to go to sleep, not go jump in the shower.
white males on suicune watch
>>55938241
because the game is rigged against us.
>feminists
>leftists
>faggots
>greedy/corrupt polititians
>foreigners (economic migrants aka social parasits)
>jurisdiction
>>55938990
>Guns
>Gone
God how retarded can you be. That is NEVER going to happen. Not only is it UNCONSTITUTIONAL, but it's flat out unrealistic and everyone knows it. Not even Bernie wants to ban them, he's made that abundantly clear.
Also, it's usually bitches like OP that bitch about white people not being active racists that aren't doing shit either.
>>55941433
Why are spics so anti gun? Is it a control thing because they want to spite whites or is there logic?
Masculinity is in decline and feminism is on the rise.
>>55941861
Which is an awful thing.
I cannot make any meaningful contribution because I need 3-5 years experience first
>>55941852
They hate legal guns but love illegal ones
>>55941852
that history of cartel violence i suppose
>>55941601
I'd watch suicine if you catch my drift
>>55941166
>standing up for yourself is pretty hard when you're a pussy.
Welcome to shaming 101 gentlemen.
Shaming a tactic to attempt to get you to do what someone else wants, even when it's not in you own self interest.
Typically we see shaming from women because women directly benefit from systems that punish men and reward women, say biased family courts, alimony laws, palimony, child support, etc.
However you will see social shaming from men, the cause is fairly simple. They define their manhood and self worth around attracting women by providing as many resources as possible to them. This is an objectively bad deal for men however they do it anyway because they feel it helps prove their worth. The only issue is that the worth is only legitimate if other people respect that sacrifice, when men go their own way and reject women and social systems that are toxic for them, they implicitly lower the value of the sacrifice other men make.
So men shame other men for not chasing pussy or not fighting for their cause because its harming their self esteem.
There's nothing wrong with rational self interest, if something isn't a good deal for you and people have no ability to force you to do it, then it's completely fine to opt out. Shaming is simply the last tactic of those who want to use you to further their own goals at your expense, and it'll come thick and fast so be prepared to spot it and rationally defuse it, or simply ignore it.
This is MGTOW 101
i only see money as a problem really, i've got none. alki/druggi maybe that's my problem
>>55938241
Because society shits on us. Everybody gets his privilege but not young white males.
>>55940042
Most Boomers hate the West.
>>55938241
Why are you here every fucking day posting the same exact thread OP kill yourself
>>55940042
>Do you even realize what your forefathers achieved? What hardships they endured? And you're all just giving up without so much as a fight?
>If a bunch of defeatist pussies is what we've all collectively become, then we deserve our inevitable extinction.
This is all funny coming from a romanticist, clinging to the past.
Get with the present and stop wildly swinging like an imbecile.
>>55938241
Why the fuck would you?
We are told every single day from various sources that we are wrong and need to be punished.
It is openly celebrated that white males are being unnaturally forced out of everything.
It is openly celebrated that the demographic changes will ensure further erosion.
I do not have to mention the way we are portrayed in much of the media.
>>55940885
Too true ahmed
Video Games and anime are just so great.
So superb.
I love everything about them! Nothing warms my heart like a good video game with a delicious meal. It's simply divine.
Nothing can compete, it's unparalleled joy in and of itself.
[spoiler]But seriously, what's the point of investing in someone who will probably divorce you, take your kid and then force you to fork over half your paycheck every month?[/spoiler]
>>55938665
He is so right the fuck on about leftist.
>>55938990
>Liberals are taking over, guns will probably be gone in my lifetime, my home state of texas is going to be a Hispanic majority in the next 20 years
Every night right before I enter sleep these facts enter my mind and I feel like crying.
It makes me fucking sick thinking about it.
Vote Trump.
>>55942237
Russia please stop. Your country is free from PC bullshit.
>>55940042
>Do you even realize what your forefathers achieved? What hardships they endured?
And it was for nothing....
Just so we could hand the nation over to hateful leftist, niggers and mestizos.
>>55938241
society turned its back on me
>>55940637
its not about getting women. even if she is desperate the first time you meet her, after a few months she'll become a demanding monster which will destroy you via the jurisdiction sysem if you marry her
I don't feel much reward from any endeavor anymore or the urge to do much. So I just maintain myself.
>>55940224
I have found this to be the case also but my fear;I am scared to death as women gain more power they will start putting a stop to the merit based system all together.
Especially for unattractive me like me.
>>55938241
We're too far deep, were so far fucked there's no hope. Global bankers rule the world, our best option is to think we go off the grid and go innawoods, but even then we're not found unless needed
>>55940224
>I have worked many jobs and I have always found this to be true. I get promoted for just caring a little bit, which puts me miles ahead of others that I work with.
That was just because of your white privilege.
Real talk, /pol/. How do we harness the despair, emptiness and feels into a force for positive change?
>young white males not interested in society/politics
obviously you've never been to a college campus.
>>55938241
Fuck society. - Mr.Robot.
>>55943278
Affirmative Action will fix that.
>>55941601
OFFICIAL THREAD MUSIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogGVXxZ23FY
>>55940087
Sport fucking gets old quick and the people who pursue that lifestyle especially after the college years are using sex as a crutch for their self esteem or simply have out of control hedonist proclivities a la Charlie Sheen.
I've slept with over 30 women by this point (lost count) and it's been very unrewarding. Video games are a waste of time but sleeping around isn't worthwhile.
>>55938241
society doesnt give a single shit about me, why should i bother with society?
>>55941433
That is the point, latrinos are leftist as fuck, they are going to destroy the USA for good.
Because I realized everything is fucked and you can't do jack shit about it other than complain on the Internet
>>55939025
/thread
Society doesn't give a shit about us...yet.
>>55943427
>people who pursue that lifestyle especially after the college years are using sex as a crutch for their self esteem
SHUT UP BRO YOURE JUST JELLY CUZ IM ROLLIN IN PRIMO STRANGE I AM AN ALPHA MALE WHO HAS SEX WITH LOTS OF GIRLS FROM TINDER. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO AN ORGY? YEAH DIDNT THINK SO BETA NERD. THIS IS WHAT A REAL MAN LOOKS LIKE. I AM COOL AND CONFIDENT AND WOMEN LOVE ME. IT'S TRUE I KNOW IT IS.
>>55940224
>I have worked many jobs and I have always found this to be true. I get promoted for just caring a little bit, which puts me miles ahead of others that I work with.
Same here, but to what end? I reject LTRs, marriage and fatherhood or really accepting any responsibilities that will in any way negatively effect my life.
But living a single lifestyle in a nice flat, with all the shit you could possibly want is really just a case of not being a complete spastic in the work place and get in a reasonable career.
I got promoted recently to Head of IT and I was raking int he cash but now I'm getting a lot more and I don't even really need it, it's just more money I'm getting taxed on and more of that tax is going to single mothers to support their hellspawn which will only be raised to future thugs and thieves that pose a threat to our way of life.
A this point I don't really care about getting ahead, beer and vidya is cheap, at this stage I'm more or less done with getting raises and would prefer to lower my time in the work place rather than try and be anymore successful.
Raising kids costs like $250k-500k in a lifetime so not raising 2-3 of them is going to leave us with more money than we know what to do with. Most guys opting out of this shit basically do not need super awesome career paths, just to turn up on time and do the minimum not to get fired.
Because I only worry about me.
Noone else does so why care about them? I work and pay my taxes, what else do you want?
>>55939053
Probably about a person living in the United States participating in illegal or immoral activities.
Or maybe about someone who is so fucking stupid, they take the time to post a question on an anonymous forum instead of just googling it.
>>55938241
yes i am.
why?
Because you can't win honestly anymore.
>>55943956
fucking this
good for you man
>>55938241
Cause we are all fucked by the jew bankers and most people are dumb enough to not realize this
I have no love for a society that doesn't love me back. Let it burn
>>55943956
You would never get married? Have you completely given up on dating? Can't say I blame you but I feel like quality men should bring children into the world.
>>55938241
Because society doesn't care about them.
bitches are parasites and a drain physically, emotionally and financially. fuck em and ditch em.
>>55938241
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2015/11/human-harems.html
>>55942208
underrated post
I'm leaving, but I'm taking my wives and children. We can do better for ourselves if we're not pressed into servitude to subsidize the existence of others.
Much of adulthood is sacrificing your own happiness for the greater good. Working a shitty, dead-end job you hate is the price of having a family, functional institutions, healthy economy, etc. Somebody has to clean up shit, but nobody wants to do it.
Now much of the benefit of these sacrifices has been stripped away. Your family can fall apart through no fault of your own. Your children can be easily corrupted. Your government only serves the interests of big business. Community and religion are dying too. Work is simply something that pays the bills.
When capitalism is stripped down to money, with no ties to the community or the people, it's a dehumanizing system.
>>55942329
Just because it's romanticism doesn't make it any less true. At one time, we were willingly to fight savagely for family, country, values, etc.
Now look at what we've been reduced to. A bunch of sniveling cowards on a nip cartoon message board.
There are literal boatloads of Syrians traveling half way across the world to engage the west directly in a holy war, and some of us can't even be bothered to get out of bed in the morning and work.
It's insane. Apathy and tolerance truly are the virtues of a dying society.
>>55944752
>You would never get married?
Are you fucking kidding me? 50% divorce rate, 70-80% of those divorces initiated by women, most common excuse for divorce is being "unsatisfied", alimony and assets goes to her assuming she doesn't bankrupt you through divorce courts first. Men don't want to get married because we're fucked to death by marriage now, male suicide rate post divorce shoots up to like 11x more than women.
>Have you completely given up on dating? Can't say I blame you but I feel like quality men should bring children into the world.
I don't date, while some MGTOW like to fuck about in a RooshV PUA kind of way, that attracts just as much risk as marriage does with false rape claims, false pregnancy claims to trap men etc.
I do have FWB from time to time if they're women I know well enough to know they're not completely crazy, if you're going to do that get a vasectomy and make sure you get your doctor to verify it on legal document, it's free on the NHS (for those in the UK)
Why should quality men bring a child into the world if it's not in their best interest? Do you know what happens to fathers through the divorce courts, it's about 10x more brutal than divorce, 90% of the time custody goes to her and then you've got a minimum in the UK of 18 years of child support which if you're working even just min wage is about £50,000 total.
>>55945185
"there is a difference between bravery and stupidity. The only risks that reasonable people dare to take are calculated risks. One weighs the likely costs and benefits of said risks. As it is, some men are finding out that many women are failing a cost-benefit analysis."
Every white nationalist Ive ever met is a white knight faggot who only wants to defend the white race because he's obsessed with white females and cowers at their feet. Any criticism of white women and the society they have created they instantly dismiss as being the fault of jews and go on defending their precious white women. They expect white beta men to go fight in distant wars against the 'other' because they need to 'defend' white women who mock, humiliate, imprison, bankrupt, steal, lie and cheat from, for what? There is nothing they promise in return.
14 words? More like 14 fuck offs. White women created this world, now they can defend it.
>>55938241
I've been depressed since about 15-16 years old and I suck at socializing to boot.
Lol. I expected glorious racism and threats of violence against women and people of colour and this is what I get? The biggest collection of defeatist fagsticks on all of 4chan? How the fuck did people like you take over the world and colonise/oppress every fucking of people that weren't christian white males? No wonder Daquan has his gargantuan dick down your women's throats. No wonder your women respect you so little you're actually trying to take tips from littledick mudslimes blowing up paris? Red pill? The only thing any of you swallow is cum. Which is what you enjoy as a kek. Society hates you? It hates black, mexican, muslims jews and women too.
At least you're the group that has the majority of power and wealth. You can bitch and moan about how its all being taken away, but if you're just going to give up when times are tough then we're just gonna take everything away. #endrant #praisethesun #allahuakbar #fuckparis #YouMadBruh? #AdaptorEvaporate
>>55945717
The divorce rates you're talking about, even in the UK, aren't real. That's meme tier bullshit, bro. I know that a study can out recently here in the US that showed the divorce rate for Christians to be around 11%.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2014/May/Divorce-Shocker-Most-Marriages-Do-Make-It/
>Why should quality men bring a child into the world if it's not in their best interest?
Yeah, feminists and an enabling governmental structure have fucked shit up but it all depends on what you mean by best interest. It's not inconceivable that creating a future with well-raised children is ultimately in your best interest if you want for the human race to thrive.
I'm in a similar situation as you more or less but just having some fun when I'm not at work doesn't feel very fulfilling to me, anymore.
>>55946626
Society doesn't hate blacks and muslims, but human beings do.
I'm not really a part of society so society is not really a part of me. I don't have a social group to belong to. It's all about individualism nowadays.
Nihilism can't be avoided since I can't force myself to believe in some sandnigger meme deitys nor anything else that would create even temporary meaning. I don't give a fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9W0GQvONKc
>>55945882
White Women have never created jack shit.
>>55943956
Good goy. Women are parasites. Do not procreate. Do not proliferate your race or nation, just keep playing with your toys and drinking your life away.
>>55938990
how retarded are you? a neckbeard that believes the government is out to get him and personally take away his guns
keep rotting in your cellar
>>55946629
>The divorce rates you're talking about, even in the UK, aren't real. That's meme tier bullshit, bro. I know that a study can out recently here in the US that showed the divorce rate for Christians to be around 11%.
Cherry pick specific groups does not data make. The Office for national statistics (ONS) in the UK put divorce rate at about 42% and steadily increasing in percentage despite a net decrease in marriage.
The non-religious are on the increase in the UK, 15% to 25% between 2001 and 2011 census, that's also accelerating, and most of the age bands show heavy leaning towards young people being overwhelmingly non religious. The newer generations simply don't care about Christianity or marriage.
>It's not inconceivable that creating a future with well-raised children is ultimately in your best interest if you want for the human race to thrive.
And why would I care about that? A science based world view tells us that we only desire to have kids because that's what passes on genes and encourages more pair bonding/mating, it's a trick of biology, we should know better now that burden isn't a social responsibility and it doesn't matter one bit if the human race dies out 10 seconds after you die or 10 million years, not our problem.
>I'm in a similar situation as you more or less but just having some fun when I'm not at work doesn't feel very fulfilling to me, anymore.
Do something fulfilling then, I study physics in my spare time, free online uni-grade lectures, it's not something I'll likely ever need or use, I just like to learn. I practice hacking as a side trade to my IT position and set up my own pen testing business, I made good money off that but I honestly just do it because it's rewarding and endlessly interesting. Build something you can stick your name to, it doesn't need to be a family, something you can be proud of, or give back to your local community, help run clubs you're interested in, stay active.
>>55939036
Dude... what the fuck? If you spent time outside with other people you would know that is wrong. Plenty of chicks want to have family early on.
>>55947964
>Good goy. Women are parasites. Do not procreate. Do not proliferate your race or nation, just keep playing with your toys and drinking your life away.
Oh vey, the jews will inherit the earth about 1000 years after I'm dead and it literally doesn't matter one single iota.
Yes good luck with that pointless battle someone has tricked you into thinking is worth it.
Great thing about no women and no kids is that no kids means you don't have to give a single flying fuck about the future, that just straight eliminates most of life's bigger problems.
Why do you think? We are left out to dry and are easily going to be the oppressed group of this next decade. I just hope after everyone's done with this incredibly ill-timed fad of denying young white males a voice in any conversation relating to society at large we can all truly be peaceful and understanding. This is easily the most distraught and confused I've been my whole young life, I just want to feel happy and understood again.
>>55945185
>Much of adulthood is sacrificing your own happiness for the greater good. Working a shitty, dead-end job you hate is the price of having a family, functional institutions, healthy economy, etc. Somebody has to clean up shit, but nobody wants to do it.
When real life hits you.. Its far easier saying that you don't care and there is no point and opt out of that to be useless slob
>>55943269
We don't. We burn everything we have created before it can decay. Let all the filth within our great nations burn so that we can bathe in the ashes and begin to build anew. Glorious.
>>55938241
I had one semi-serious relationship and it ended when I just couldn't take her bullshit anymore. I've gotten similar vibes from girls I wasn't serious with and told myself that I would never willingly accept that that's how it has to be if I want a traditional relationship. Cam girls do the job in between the occasional Tinder romp. I know that there are diamonds in the rough out there but so far I've yet to find mine. I'm 26 for what it's worth.
Is putting up with mind games and unnecessary really just something we have to accept if we want to be married and have kids. I wonder if my dad deals with it along with every other person I know in a long term relationship. I think if I try again I'll just end it because of the same shit.
>>55941852
Guns are used to make life a living hell in latin america. Cartels, Theft, and Narcs.
>>55949792
Was supposed to read:
>is putting up with mind games and unnecessary drama
>>55949552
You are the very filth thats spreading its rotting disease trough being a victim and not taking responsibility.
How much of your life is in order?
Hows your family life?
Hows your employment status?
Hows your friends?
Hows your hobbies doing?
Hows your room / place? Tidy?
Fix up those things before you start talking about society. Because honestly, if you own fucking life is a mess then why the fuck should you have anything to say or do about society? You'll just fuck that up as well. And no, society probably did not fuck your life up.
>>55949152
Resigning to your fate is exactly why we're "losing". From men who wouldn't surrender even in the face of death to men who surrender because they'll lose Facebook buddies, absolutely atrocious.
because of self entitlement
their parents got employment and a good wage from the get go. they assumed it would be the same for them, with their media studies degree
plus, there's no traditional goals for males to aim for... getting a wife, earning money to support the wife and kids... these things don't exist anymore because the wife is out at work herself. she still has her role has the mother though. so a man is now just a shit version of a woman, with no tits.
>>55940719
achmed please, don't kick us while we're down :^(
>>55940719
Your a fucking Muslim aren't you? Kill yourself you fucking degenerate of the human race. You come in and invade Europeans countries and request their women. If they don't have sex with you, you rape them. Die in fucking fire.
>>55938241
I don't blow up inside about people anymore. I drank my excessive empathy away, I think. There was a permanent point that I passed in my drug use making me feel neutral about anything and everything.
Yeah I'm one of them. I have cancer though. It's not very far along, but every treatment has failed. My tumors are still small and not in vital organs yet. I'm not even remotely close to death, but I know that nothing can be done to save me. It's fruitless for me to get a job or do anything other than stuff I absolutely enjoy at this point.
>>55948624
>A science based view
Then again, a scientific view of consciousness that reduces consciousness to mere material origins leads to the conclusion that all human perception and psychology is a grand illusion. How can you argue that one way of life is better? Your argument that you're better off without marriage and kids is a based on hedonistic principles. That has nothing to do with an objective, strictly rational view of life through the prism of science.
Just sayin'
>>55951211
>Then again, a scientific view of consciousness that reduces consciousness to mere material origins leads to the conclusion that all human perception and psychology is a grand illusion. How can you argue that one way of life is better? Your argument that you're better off without marriage and kids is a based on hedonistic principles. That has nothing to do with an objective, strictly rational view of life through the prism of science.
>Just sayin'
It's not just based on hedonistic principles, although if it were, so what? It's also based on a principle to minimize suffering from the outcomes of failed marriages/fatherhood, currently the state puts a high price on these things failing and women are too fickle to follow through or too hypergamous to stay with one man for long.
Science can only tell you the nature of things and describe reality for us, it means we get to interact with reality in rational ways and that increases our agency, our ability to achieve the outcome we desire. What you actually desire in the first place and how you weigh the various metrics you need to achieve to realise that, it's just personal preference.
Whatever your preferences are, ultimately being able to interact with reality in rational ways helps you reach that goal.
>>55945456
if you try to speak your mind the media will ruin your life
I have to pay off student loans somehow so I can't do anything at least until then.
Even once that's done, nobody cares about creating a better world
society is p bad desu senpai and I don't think it's going to get better before it gets a lot worse
>>55938241
There comes a point after getting vilified as the cause of everything "wrong" with society for so many years that you just say fuck it, I'm out, have fun without me.
>>55938241
Because I can see the future, and the future is not for humans, but for the emerging artifical superintelligence. We'll give birth to something that transcends us.
>>55941843
Daily reminder that any and all laws restricting or modifying the use, sale or transport of firearms is primely illegal without a proper amendment taking away natural rights under the tenth and fourteenth amendments, Article VI, and finally under the vaunted Second.
Further, reduction of natural rights by way of amendments remains treasonous.
Arrest Congress.
Why should i give a fuck? Everyone Hates us anyway.
Fucking Canada at it with the two sided bait game again
>>55938665
Yes the only way to check out of society is to return to pre industrial way of life.
Wage slaving and gaming all your life isn't checking out.
>>55938241
I'm building a robot in a cave to arrest the whole of the US government. Also, the commercialization of power armor fighting leagues and providing hard simulation and training environments for afflicted soldiers undergoing exposure therapy.
I have a dream, now if only reality would cooperate to give me the time and income to make it happen or fail hard and happy.
>>55945185
>implying this is capitalism's fault
It was the state that did all of this - the state destroyed the family through the family court system, the state destroyed civic organizations by keeping them from 'discriminating,' the state took over education from religion and killed it, etc.
None of that really has anything to do with big business, it's the state acting in its own interest to take control of ever greater parts of our lives until we are isolated and atomized, with no relationships with anything but the state
>>55940513
Calhoun Limit Reached
Irreversible Social Changes Occurring
Return and Reset of Social Dynamic Deemed Unfeasible
Time To Go To Space
Pax Ex Terra
>>55953702
We're already there, the grass eating Japanese men, often referred to as herbivores already strangely resemble the "beautiful ones" from the mouse experiments, a new wave of Japanese men that tend to prefer endless grooming but aren't interesting in fighting among themselves or chasing women.
MGTOW are rapidly starting to follow suit.
>>55938426
>Getting triggered by a nigger on TV
o kek
>>55954061
Those mouse experiments really shouldn't be generalized to humans
Men are checking out because it's the rational decision, not because they've been inbred for 500 generations and they're all severely retarded
How can we change the game? We need to do something other than individually retreat into isolation.
>>55938241
They know it's gonna end soon so they don't bother.
>>55950031
Define an ordered life
Define why family should be desirable
>yes, if they support or at least offer a measured opinion on your position, a good family life is desirable, elsewise it will only drag a soul down further
Employment directly empowers the funding o further social erosion, having a means to an ends is all well and good, but the cost-to-benefit ratio of 'gainful employment' is swiftly shrinking, living and dying off the land is equitable and meaningful if one has the fortitude to master the old style
Friends are only friends if they provide meaningful companionship, see family above
Hobbies are spent on surfeits of time, if one is not spending their time, anything becomes a hobby, if one is struggling to progress meaningfully, they may not have the luxury of maintaining a solid hobby
Cleanliness is only useful when it provides organisation and hygiene, a tidied room may not necessarily be a conducive room "if a cluttered desk represents a cluttered mind, then what does an empty desk represent"
Finally, an opinionated retort to your opinionated declaration, and a baseless one at that: Society is bunk if it does not serve the people that compose it; what used to be a healthy and cosmopolitan society borne on individual success, partnerships, and emergent wealth of product has been suborned and dismantled to serve platonic ideals and emotively justified 'oughts'.
>>55938241
porn
video games
internet
>>55954260
Do you intentionally boil things down to an abstract level or are you too stupid for critical thinking?
>>55954480
There was sufficient genetic diversity in the mouse experiments to avoid significant inbreeding, he did the same experiment lots of times and the results were always the same no matter how many mice you started at or how many generations they went through, once you reached the size limit it was already over.
There is a massive burst of asexuality in Japan right now which is so far unexplained yet it matches perfectly with these experiments. Japan is one of the most crowded places on earth. This shouldn't be too surprising.
>>55946626
You're forgetting our demographic group has no point of solidarity outside of "misogyny", "jingoism", and "racism" and that great wealth is decisively unbalanced to a very small percentage of the whole.
We are a series of minority groups lumped under the effigy of "white men" and only a few of those groups actually possess the qualities for which the whole is blamed into responsibility for.
>>55952256
Trust me, I hear you, and I'm not trying to win an internet argument here. It's just that I feel that the way we live life now makes LTRs unstable and it's all doomed through a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy.
>>55955285
to further forestall refutation of the observation of Calhoun effects on the human populace by pleading that Calhoun's work was oriented towards alleviating the vaunted Limit he had discovered, all his efforts ultimately failed.
Yes, Calhoun managed to increase the Limit for a given space, but the social order and natural behaviors inevitably mutated and resulted in the characteristic perverse destruction well before carrying capacity of the environment was reached.
And recall that, at best, Calhoun managed to squeeze the mice into a ~60% of carrying capacity by the end of his trials before the Calhoun Limit took effect and destroyed the experiments.
Can someone quote me the estimated human carrying capacity of our planet?
>>55954961
>boil things down to an abstract level
>being retarded enough to type this
>>55956119
well mate, we should reproduce since most of pol is K selection strategy.
But sadly, the wolrd favors r-strategy parasites.
>>55953308
>>55956119
>Google says 10 billion
>global population: 7.3 billion
Ladies and gentlemen, unless there is a shadow government tweaking our social order to forestall the Calhoun Limit >We Have Most Certainly Reached It Already
>>55956637
Maybe we just need more diversity lol
>>55938241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM
avoid porn and tv.
>>55956119
Yes because the behaviors exhibited were due for an increase in territorial behaviour as populations became more dense eventually giving way to bouts of hyper violence but general abandonment of dominance for resources.
I'm pretty sure the carrying capacity of the planet is way higher on almost all resources fronts with today technology, it's worth noting that human reproduction in all but 3rd world has tended towards replacement rate now so overcrowding isn't an issue in most places
>>55955898
I agree with you, they are unstable and at least for men that instability isn't worth the risk in increasing amounts. Either we're all doomed if the trend continues or western civilization has to reorganize to remove the state and the punishment for men when women walk away and foster an environment where men want to opt back in. When the current generation of women and SJWs reach menopause and lose the ability to have kids and realize they missed their chance we might see backlash from women against the monster they created.
3am, too tired to carry on, good discussion bros, I'm out.
>>55956637
We should build ourselves an AI that preserves the best accomplishments of the current society and cuts the overpopulated planet down to size. Reapers, sort of.
>>55951117
Bless you, brother
>society hates us
>the media reinforces that being white is bad
>marriage laws are fucked
>women are no longer women in that they are out of control, overly egotistical narcissists who have lost touch with their motherly instincts
>white male suicide rates are increasing and no one seems to give a shit
The reason I don't care about society is that society doesn't care about me.
It's time to stop deluding ourselves: white males feel most inclined to do shit and be productive when we detect that the collective is encouraging us to act. Old messages of 'man up' and similar shit no longer work because there's nothing to 'man up' for.
Man up so I can get with a whore who will betray me? Man up so I can be in a position where I am constantly ridiculed at every turn? No fucking thanks, I'm all set there.
This world has gone to shit and it's only going to get worse the further we stray away from traditional values that have yielded us the luxurious life that we have today. Our ancestors are rolling in their graves seeing us in our current state but, I'm sure they would not have been so inclined to break their back for a world that despised their very existence, either.
There is no reason not to sit back and watch it fall. Society has turned its back on us, and it's only right that we respond likewise.
>>55956939
wow, so much fucking redpill in one 8 minute video.
>>55938241
Because fuck it.
Let it all burn to the ground, let jamal and ahmed take over and destroy what white people have built over thousands of years.
Hitler tried, he couldnt do it and now its a long way down into degeneracy.
