>Islam is extremely violent!
>Just ignore the fact that AT MOST extremists make up .5% of a 1.2 billion population.
>Also ignore the fact that islamic nations were completely fine before America decided to intervene in Middle Eastern relations
>Also please ignore the greatest murders in Europe being white, Andres Breivik and Andreas Lubitz
>Please also look at my cherrypicked Qur'an verses that are out of context
>Forget about the Islamic Golden age too!
Since /pol/ hates rational discussion I already know waht type of responses I'll get
>hurr durr BAIT XD
>Gtfo MUDSLIME!!!
>LOL LOOK AT THIS QUR'AN VERSE THO
>ur retarded
>How dare you be rational?
>Le Islamic Golden age was stolen inventions meme
>>55934281
Brave post OP. Not even being a sarcastic fagit
>le few bad apples meme
>>55934651
>They had sample sizes of 100 - 1,000 and attempted to base millions of people based off it
Nice try, learn how to not be such a sheep.
Islam is extremely violent to those who aren't believers. Just look up apostasy laws in the middle east. I'd hate to be in the middle of those shitskins.
>>55934281
Whether you like it or not, the Qur'an promotes violence against infidels in many places.
This is what gives rise to extremism.
This will always be the case as long as Islam is a religion based on the Qur'an.
>>55934936
Just out of curiosity, do you actually not believe in the science of statistics?
>>55934936
you blind fool, so they're not blowing themselves up
doesn't mean they're innocent, have you not heard on this board or seen the links about assaults and sex crimes DIRECTLY related to refugees?
would you really be comfortable with your family living with nothing but refugees as nieghbors
>>55934281
>>Islam is extremely violent!
glad we can agree
/thread
>>55934281
>Also ignore the fact that islamic nations were completely fine before America decided to intervene in Middle Eastern relations
Actually throughout the middle east history, since the babylonians, it was all about bloody conquest and building upon the ruin of others
Then islam came and it changed nothing, it was still about murdering your way to the top
>>55934281
>Implying 0.5%
According to inteligence agencies around the world it's actually 15-25%.
>At worst it's every 4th muslim.
>Implying islam doesn't have violent history with it's conqest.
>Implying your prophet isn't a warmonger when compared to Jesus.
>M-muh out of context verses.
Oh, so Quaran somehow manages to justify murder? Please explain.
>Implying your prophet wasn't a pedo.
>Implying muslimes aren't pedos overall.
Where are all the christian extremists OP? Why don't they murder women and children after raping them? Why dodn't they bomb cities and fight for the creation of one global kingdom?
Right, they keep their shit to themselves (when compared to muslim extremists) because christianity is objectively better than Islam and it doesn't promote violence.
Now fuck off to your shithole.
>>55934281
>Also ignore the fact that islamic nations were completely fine before America decided to intervene in Middle Eastern relations
Yes they were, but the problem is that they are moving to our countries without trying to assimilate, instead they try and change the law so it would be here as it was in their homeland where they lived happily under those laws. Unfortunately WE don't want to live under those fucked up laws, and WE cannot tolerate those laws in our "civilized" societies.
>>55934281
90% of Sunni's support terrorism and extremism even if they aren't themselves directly involved
>>55934936
>doesn't know how statistics and sample sizes work
Just sad really
>>55934936
>Only the Muslims that had a chance to mistreat non-Muslim have done so. So obviously the rest of them are humane.
Top Kek. MIDF is in overdrive since the Paris attacks.
You're all a cancer and I hope the kikes wipe you out.
Death to Palestinians.
>>55934281
>>Forget about the Islamic Golden age too!
The "Islamic Golden Age" was a result of the Ottomans conquering superior cultures and managing to not fuck it up TOO much.
Even then there was very little innovation or scientific or artistic achievement in that time for much Arabs like to claim it as a renaissance.
Please read this before you continue your delusion OP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests
>>55934281
.5% of 1.2 billion is fucking 6 million you shit head
>>55934281
Breivik did'nt murder anyone.
He served justice.
>>55934281
Right. The West made sure that Islam genosided 3 million Hindus in Bangladesh.
It's funny how there's people that are like "IT'S JUST EXTREMISTS THEY AREN'T REAL MUSLIMS" but it's an objective fact, you can open the Quran yourself and have a look, or even ask another Muslim, that Islam actually advocates everything the "extremists" are doing. If anything, the extremists are the truest Muslims, following the law of their religion to the very letter.
>>55934281
>islamic nations were completely fine before America decided to intervene in Middle Eastern relations
Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski think you're an ignorant fool that should have paid attention in history class.
>greatest murders in Europe were committed in the last 10 years
into the trash your opinion goes
>>55935655
Also this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_of_Islam
>>55934281
dumb frogposter
>>55934281
>>Just ignore the fact that AT MOST extremists make up .5%
and let's remember that ".5%" all started out as "normal" muslims and then became "radicalized"
>>55934281
The only one not rational here is you. Not only did you not list sources, you're ignoring the fact that out of the entire Muslim population, as you say, with 0.5% being terrorists or radicals, this amounts to tens of millions of terrorists if you do the math. Also enjoy some evidence that completely contradicts what you're saying.
>>55935573
This.
>>55935578
The Ottoman Empire wasn't around until the 1300s. When people say "Islamic Golden Age" they mean Baghdad in the 1100s.
It was a sect of Islam, I can't remember the name, who were relatively chill and allowed themselves a degree of secularization. That begat algebra, etc. The Mongols came along in the 1200s and fucked their day up, and the rest is history.
>>55934281
>scripture says to kill non believers
>"i-it d-d-doesn't count, muh cherrypicking, muh context"
>>55934651
US! wtf?
>>55934281
>Also ignore the fact that islamic nations were completely fine before America decided to intervene in Middle Eastern relations
Hey there, I'm a Junior Professor at Friedrich Meinecke Institut at Freie Universität Berlin and I, personally, think that that is a very questionable statement. Would you mind going more in detail on it and/or recommend me any publications that support the thesis?
>>55934281
13% of Muslims are radicals in the United States. What say you, OP?
>Just ignore the fact that AT MOST extremists make up .5% of a 1.2 billion population
I heard 15-25%. Where did you get your numbers? Genuinely curious.
>>55935573
Someone has a kek fetish
>>55934281
if you divide the 3000 people killed per 9/11 Hijackers (19) that is 157 per hijacker.
So Muslims get high score 19 times.
>>55934281
>>55935398
Wasn't the 15-25% statistic just those who wanted the West to be fucked up, not actually violent offenders. As in, people who probably would assist a terrorist given the opportunity at little cost to themselves? That's what I took from it.
>>55934281
>mudslimes can barely manage a 2.5 k/d ratio on average
That's not them being non-violent, it's them being incompetent.
>>55934281
>>Forget about the Islamic Golden age too!
Inferior to Western civilization in any single way.
>nuclear power
>space flight
>internet
>>55934281
Also, Muslims are around 1.7 billion, not 1.2 as you say.
>>55935900
Charleston was more like a Autist shooting then a 'White supremacy' shooting
>>55934281
>Please also look at my cherrypicked Qur'an verses that are out of context
the only things out of context is that stupid slim propaganda shit saying "islam says not to kill innocents and hurt women" and the like.
every good thing in the qur'an is made completely irrelevant by the fact none of it applies to infidels. none of it.
>>55935699
>6 million
Oyyyyy veeeeeeyyyyy :^)))))
>>55934281
>>55935197
>science of statistics
>>55934281
>at most .5% of 1.2 billion
>implying 6 million terrorists is just a minor problem
Bait of the week right here, well done OP.
>>55934281
How about you stick to something you're good at, sport.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s
>>55934281
There never was an pisslamic "Golden Age"
Name one fucking thing they discovered or invented from that time, let alone ever
PROTIP YOU CAN'T
>inb4 MUH NUMERALS
Those were loo pooers
>>55934281
that's still at least 6 million extremists...
0.5% of 1,2 billion is 6million
6 MILLION
>>55934936
Go flip a coin 100-1000 times and see how close to 50-50 you get.
Christians and Muslims are just Jews
Anyone from any of those groups arguing against the other is fucking retarded.
>>55935974
Consider that there are about 1,500 'Syrian refugees' here. Not to mention the millions of bleeding heart liberals.
![150620-dylann-roof-mn-1315_c2f7d0a707598be74cdb91774d5942e7.nbcnews-fp-360-360[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5tr6RLh.jpg "150620-dylann-roof-mn-1315_c2f7d0a707598be74cdb91774d5942e7.nbcnews-fp-360-360[1].jpg")
>>55936122
>sample size of 1
>"OMG WHITE PEOPLE SO RAYCISS BAN EVERYTHING FROM EVERYWHERE!"
>sample size of thousands
>"U CAN'T JUDGE ISLAM TILL YOU ASK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY GUIZE!"
Liberals: yes, they are this stupid.
>>55934281
>.5% of a 1.2 billion population
>1,200,000,000 x 0.005 = 6,000,000
>6 million
who could be behind this post, i wonder
b-b-ut muh 'violent' verses
:^)
>>55934281
It doesn't matter if they only make up 0.5% if the other 1.6 billion enable or support them.
The nazis were once a very small minority of Germany and look what happened there
>>55935900
More than 50 act of terrorism in Pakistan with motive as >The attack was thought to be revenge for an offensive carried out by the Pakistani Army against militants in the tribal area. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohmand_Agency_attack It is politics motive, not religions. Not always muslims do act of terrorism, becouse they believe in Allah. Often it is political act of terrorism, which do muslims. Palestin or Chechen separatism it is policy. As and war in Pakistan and e.t.c.
>>55934281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjvPj7WAX7A
>>55936649
That video should be an obligatory post on all b8 threads like this from now on.
>>55936984
Back to duneland with you
>>55934281
Explain the peaceful teachings in the quran
Ill wait
>>55936855
I think it is because of the popularity of the US proxy.
Can someone get screen captures of bill warners video to BTFO of these muppets talking about violent verses?
>le millions of people from countries devastated by poverty and war and grow up hating whites people can living alongside them in harmony meme
:^)
>>55935242
ofcourse, bet his name is mohamed mahmud el tariaki or sth
>>55937081
What happened there?
A very successful nation?
:^)
>muh tiny minority
>>55936984
>implying you mudshits don't play the same game as us by using verses out of context to prove how good islam is
>.5% at most, guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOc-vtI8dZs
>religion of peace
So 6 million terrorists
>>55936379
But it was too late. We already saw his mistake.
>>55934281
0.5% of 1.6 billion is 8 million.
And, how many of the 99.5% support, honor, and respect that 8 billion?
The the polls are to be believed, the vast majority want the same thing the terrorists do. Even within western countries.
>>55934281
>AT MOST extremists make up .5% of a 1.2 billion population.
Toilet water is only 0.4% shit. Drink it!
>>55934281
this is pretty much of all islam
>"AT MOST extremists make up .5% of a 1.2 billion population.
First, there is more like 1.5 bill muslims. So there's only 75 million extremists muslim terrorists ready to jihad. Nothing to worry about guys. It's just a small minority.
>>55934281
Call Islam whatever you want.
It is a religion designed for conquest.
"Muh violent verses" say whatever you want, kek, but just remember the Quran's teachings:
>When you have a minority, you must indicate tolerance and a desire to coexist peacefully
>When your group is growing, you act in the defense of Islam, jihad, etc
>Once you have established a reasonable majority, take over by force
Faggot
Muslims can take up the Middle East all they want. But "le peaceful religion x-DDD" is a shitty meme that has to go. Let them be a peaceful religion in their own regions, so that the "religion of peace" doesn't take down our own nations by force.
Which you will have noticed is being preached by Imams back in the Middle East, particularly high-ranking ones, and is being preached by refugees when they march through the streets demanding Islam, sharia law, and in the meantime they will be raping women and killing people.
Fuck off, shills.
>>55937584
I wonder how do these statistics. I do not think that Muslims would such openly declare their sympathies for the for interviewers.
>>55938032
https://twitter.com/ironwood8870/lists/ctrlsec1
https://luckytroll.club/report.htm
>>55938139
https://twitter.com/ironwood8870/lists/ctrlsec1
https://luckytroll.club/report.htm
>>55934281
Have a video OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s
Also pic related, read about the history of the middle east and Islam sometime.
>>55938180
For that reason I think its probably higher than the numbers suggest.
Plus that's pretty old and I think the trendline for muslims in the West has been to go even further in radical direction.
>>55937523
Wrong, we derive context by reading the content of the whole Surah. If you think something is being pulled out of context, then you read the whole stuff and see it for yourself, Joao.
>>55934281
>Forget about the Islamic Golden age too!
you are so stupid and hypocrite
iranians were already in their golden age and arabs shit just took their knowledges from the books they didnt destroy
>Please also look at my cherrypicked Qur'an verses that are out of context
it really exist
>Since /pol/ hates rational discussion I already know waht type of responses I'll get
Muslims need to stay in islamic countries, they must not live in christians countries
get the fuck you faggot
>>55937584
>>55937734
Big deal. 51% of Amerifats thought torturing prisoners is justified. :^)
>>55937734
>More Muslims in France support suicide bombings than in Pakistan
Kek
>>55934281
i want muslims out of europe
>>55937631
Pretty good video.
>>55938621
Fuck yeah we do, no mercy for those who strike against us. You can't moral high ground an enemy into submission
>>55938549
Ok, then European civilization it is barbarians, which stolen the legacy of Rome and Greece and burned books in the Middle Ages for Jesus.
>>55934281
>Islam is extremely violent!
Yup. It's the product of a sadistic, paedophilic warlord with epilepsy. Why would it be anything else?
>Just ignore the fact that AT MOST extremists make up .5% of a 1.2 billion population.
And the rest of the population sympathises with them.
>Also ignore the fact that islamic nations were completely fine before America decided to intervene in Middle Eastern relations
The last time Islamic nations were 'fine', America didn't even exist. Can't blame them for it.
>Also please ignore the greatest murders in Europe being white, Andres Breivik and Andreas Lubitz
And? They're rarities and not based on violent ideology like Islam.
>Please also look at my cherrypicked Qur'an verses that are out of context
Compared to whatever cherry-picked out of context verses you can choose to make it seem Islam is alright? A poisoned cake will still kill you, even if you want to just focus on the icing.
>Forget about the Islamic Golden age too!
Seems Muslims did. They devolved. No Muslim has contributed anything of worth for centuries.
>>55938856
no, not really
he is right, but its doesnt have a real message, he is just saying obv things
>>55934281
>>55934936
Damn, where's that israeli poster who calls everyone who frogposts a normie redditor when you need him?
>>55934281
You realise 0.5% of 1.2 billion is 6 million, right?
6 million sneaky terrorists that want to kill any and all non-believers.
Which will be supported and encouraged by over 1 billion other muslims to go ahead with it, because their actions are justified by the Koran.
Sure, no reason to be worried.
>Just ignore the fact that AT MOST extremists make up .5% of a 1.2 billion population.
So it's about equal to the number of muslims in the Americas
>>55939299
>because their actions are justified by the Koran
>kill any and all non-believers
>justified by Koran
Wrong. :^)
>>55935197
No but they do believe in:
The spirit of an old pedophile and known goat fucker will take their souls to heaven so they can fuck 12 year old girls for all eternity, meanwhile all women go to hell to serve Satan's dick.
Seriously if Islam was any new it would be called bullshit like Scientology, actually Lord Xenu makes much more sense that the Quaran. The fact liberals command people to take it seriously is retarded.
Islam acceptance is what happened you let liberal shits in command, we need official state religions back.
>>55939219
Haha
>Redditfrog
>>55939201
Well at least it's something, silence is complicity in my opinion.
>>55934936
>They should have interviewed every Muslim on the face of the planet
>Muslims not understanding science
why am I not surprised
>>55934281
>completely fine before the west got there
stopped there
>>55934281
>Just ignore the fact that AT MOST extremists make up .5% of a 1.2 billion population.
Uh no, at most they take 25%, at least they take 15%. This is according to intelligence services around the world.
And 15% of 1.2 billion is still about the whole population of America, so eat shit.
>>55939598
But that is right you fucking twat, bother to read some excerpts from the Koran.
They want everyone to either convert, or be killed for it.
>>55936134
>Wasn't the 15-25% statistic just those who wanted the West to be fucked up
That's already too fucking much even if they only want the west to be dead.
>>55935748
the book even says they can't change the meqning because of opinions ect. It is the word of god and that's it
>>55934281
>cultural norm to stone improper women
>rape results not in persecution of rapist, but in honor killing of victim
>not violent
Yeah, .5% of people are blowing shit up, but this kind of thing doesn't work with only 10% of people backing the culture.
Extremists make up 25% of the fucking Islamic population.
>>55939951
>But that is right you fucking twat, bother to read some excerpts from the Koran.
Do quote it, but please the whole Surah so we can see the context. (as illustrated here>>55936984)
>They want everyone to either convert, or be killed for it.
Literally not true.
>>55939884
>watch video where hezbollah soldier confronts ISIS militant
>My name is Abdullah
>My name is Abdullah too!
>>55940234
>>55934281
>were completely fine before America decided to intervene in Middle Eastern relations
LMAO
>Please also look at my cherrypicked Qur'an verses that are out of context
>implying there aren't tons of fucked up passages that people use as justification to kill people and deprive others of their rights
>Forget about the Islamic Golden age too!
Big fucking deal.
>>55934281
>Just ignore the fact that AT MOST extremists make up .5% of a 1.2 billion population.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg&index=6&list=FLw4JctxzYECQIQDKzCqUcjA
We need to expel this myth that extremist are a minority, we shouldn't even be calling them extremists since what they believe is fundamental to Islam.
>>55938621
HAHAHA TORTURING SHITSKIN IS BAD NOW? FUCK OFF SHITSKIN, SUBHUMAN TRASH
>>55938419
How do you explain people often using the "If anyone slays a person, it would be as if he slew the whole people - Qu'ran 5:32" verse as something to prove how good Islam is when it's obviously pulled out of context?
>>55940163
Fuck off Mohammed, you know fully well that the terrorists are all just doing what the Koran tells them to, and the majority of muslims think that killing innocent western civilians is perfectly acceptable if it is done in the name of defending Islam.
Same with the Charlie Heabo shit, because going on a killing spree because someone made a drawing that offended you is a perfectly reasonable reaction. Just admit your Koran encourages violence.
Like that very shit you posted, it literally shows that if they think that America is targeting muslims, their actions are supported by the Koran.
See >>55939988
What's the proper response to libtards who constantly bring up Nazi's and Crusades as christian orchestrations as if that absolves islam of ISIS?
>>55935573
Is there a real MIDF?
I know there is a real JIDF but is there also a MIDF with a website and wiki page? Do they pay more per most than JIDF?
>>55941025
That they're making a false equivalency because not only were those completely different times, but also that those places were equally as savage and perpetually at way during those same periods. People who point out the Crusades and Nazis are fucking retards who have no conception of World History. Do they mention how many people the Russian government has killed in the last century? Chinese? Cambodian? Any African government?
>>55941025
We live in the modern world, and no other religion systematically does that shit in today's society.
Since you know, moderation and morals and human rights and shit.
Even the Bible says parents have a right to stone their disobedients kids to death. But does anyone in the west does that? The bible says to kill the gays, yet nobody did that in a while now, and most Christians are either ignoring the issue, verbally condemning them or some accepted it as a fact of life. Do they take the bible's advice and kill the gays today?
Of course not, because even though Christians are stupid, they are not retarded enough to take moral advice literally from a book written 2 thousand years ago.
But Islam does, hence the stonning to death of disobedient wives and hand cutting of thieves and killing of gays.
>>55936556
Hearty kek
>>55938419
Nigger, let's say the first verse is all about peace and shit and then the next verse is about maximum rapage of infidels. The one that was written later overwrites the first one
>>55934651
>Southeast Asia
>77
Impossible. This is fake data
>>55934281
>Just ignore taqiyya
>>55934281
And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter... and fight them until fitnah is no more, and religion is for Allah.
-Quran 2:191
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
-Quran 9:5
And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.
-Quran 2:193
Prophet! Rouse the believers to wage war. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will subdue two hundred: if a hundred, they will subdue a thousand of the disbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.
-Quran 8:65
As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.
-Quran 3:56
Religion of peace, my ass
>inb4 cherrypicked
To ignore key ideological tenets proposed by the very holy text that Islam is derived from simply because they don't agree with your interpretation of the religion as a whole is to deny that Islam is correct in any way.
Look at it like this: if one part of the book is right and another is wrong, how can it all possibly be the word of allah? How can a "perfect being" such as allah ever have words like these in his holy text if they weren't meant to be there?
Most muslims would respond to this by saying something along the lines of "well some parts of the quran are invalidated by other verses in it", to which I ask: why does the holy text contradict itself so blatantly? Why would a supposedly perfect book have contradictory statements in it?
>>55943053
Of course, this is working under the assumption that the quran is a perfect book, but if it isn't a perfect book from allah, then why is it pointed to as a perfect holy text?
This isn't even going into Sharia law and Muslim ideology at all. For all of you who propagate that "extremists aren't real muslims" are being ignorant of the facts, and I hope at least some of you see the truth of the matter.
>>55935493
Categorically false. The Grand Imam at al azhar, the highest authority on Islamic (sunni) jurisprudence, determined that ISIS are heretics acting outside of Islam.
http://m.voanews.com/a/in-middle-east-paris-attacks-harden-views-on-foreign-intervention/3058184.html
>>55943122
>implying they would admit they agree with terrorist acts
Of course they are not fucking stupid enough, and will try anything not to face the conseuquences of practicing the same faith as these other assholes.
It is the same mentality as fat women saying 'r-real women have curves and shit, so if you are not fat like us you are not a real woman'.
Just because you say someone stops being an X because you don't like it doesn't means that it automatically becomes a fact of life.
>>55934281
if you care about rationality why do u support religion? if you care about discussion why don't u go talk to the extremists? 2 face
Meanwhile, in an average German city:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VJyKRwQHHM
>>55943122
taqiyya. Holy fuck taqiyya. taqiyya. Seriously taqiyya. You fucking retards who still don't get this TAQIYYA.
>>55944662
Taqqiya is a Shi'ite doctrine, not Sunni, moron.
>>55945868
Assuming this is true, this matters why?
>>55943922
That's analogous to feminists claiming all men are rapists. Obviously, only a tiny fraction of them are, and the rest are given the benefit of the doubt. Same goes for Muslims.
/pol/ has more in common than feminists than I thought!
>>55934281
6,000,000 people.
That is 6 million people, who according to your bullshit, probably underestimated number, who want you dead just for being american.
You're the one being irrational pretending an army 6 million strong is something to laugh at and treat like a nonissue, simply because you're terrified of being seen as racist.
>>55946920
>/pol/ has more in common than feminists than I thought!
I know, right? It's so sad.
>>55946920
False equivalence, you can't choose your gender.
>>55946920
But more than half of men have not been shown through statistics to agree or condone violence against women, including rape.
Whereas over 600 million muslims(with an estimated 800 million) have said that they consider Shariah law to be above state law or want it to be become the state law, they agree with the honour killings/stoning to death of women, and that the killing of civilians are excusable if done in defending the Koran, agreeing with the Charlie Heabo killings and so on and so forth.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
>>55934281
>Just ignore the fact that AT MOST extremists make up .5% of a 1.2 billion population.
Here's why you're wrong.
Just because a person doesn't act in violence, that doesn't mean that they don't support those who do.
BTFO
