Ok, let's cut the crap.
You don't believe in God, do you? If so, fucking why? How can you be so dumb? You're an adult, you should know better.
God has to exist because everything in this universe is based on causation. Even stupid ass atheists believe this.
I don't care what atheists think though because they are soulless, robotic faggots with zero affinity for the spiritual so who gives a fuck what you think, godless fuck. I'm not even religious at all
>>55885526
Allahu Ackbar
>>55885405
Guess I'm dumb then.
>>55885405
Yeah I believe in god.
Yes, but honestly in this disgusting world it's hard to keep faith and to not fall into it degeneracy myself.
I believe in Jesus
>>55885566
Quad dubs for Allah (PBUH)... Truly, He is great.
captcha 666
DOG doesn't exist ,burn in you own hell franquista...
Of course not. I only like Christianity because I think knights were the coolest thing.
>>55885405
I believe I'm god as a child I believed it was someone my parents told me was god
Now that I'm an adult I realize everything revolves around me even posts on this site are here for me to read because I made them all and made you all
And when I go to bed you all cease to exist till I create the universe again when I wake
sometimes I believe it's set in different time periods and my memory of it fades every second it's hard being god but really easy
>>55885546
Being spiritual has nothing to do with DOG...you can't humanize a DOG...we're not that evolved yet...
>>55885768
But for the record If it came to that I would stanf for my religion and/or die for it. I don't want some massive maniacs to take over.
God is real.
Religion is for fools. Heaven isn't real. Hell isn't real.
Live virtuously, not because you will be punished if you don't, but because it improves the life of yourself and those around you.
>>55885922
*stand
But I really meant "fight". And with "fight" I also mean "Pls m8s don't let them take Iberia".
>>55885405
Why not: God is unnecessary as an assumption in order to model the universe.
Basically that's it. If there's a god, we'll one day discover him, perhaps (i'm not holding my breath though). If not, who cares.
>>55885922
Exactly what muslins are doing...
>>55885405
OP is smarter than Plato, Pasteur and George Washington. And to think he's so young.
>>55886006
Heaven and hell was an human invention...;-)
>>55885405
Of course. Why don't?
>>55885405
I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
I don't care about god.
His existence only matters if you want it to.
>>55885405
When I'm surrounded by family and friends, I would have to say yes.... but then....
There are moments when I look up at the stars and realize I am just one human among billions, inside 1 solar system among trillions of solar systems, on 1 planet among trillions and trillions of planets, and I think to myself... it's all a fantasy in our heads.
>>55885405
I just don't believe, that's it.
Everyone who doesn't believe in God can kindly fuck off to the Soviet Union. Oh, wait. That state failed and doesn't exist anymore. I wonder why?
>>55886056
I mean, I'm no extremist. I wouldn't bomb anyone anywhere. I just want stability and to secure the peace we have.
It's so scary to think they want to invade our peninsula and claim it for them until 2020.
>>55886137
Gods female just because men wrote holy scriptures and changed it doesn't mean we should be as ignorant
>>55886137
I respect that tough...not against on what you believe...peace!
>>55886151
yea cuz ur so smart u got it all "pretty much" figured out
>>55886203
It doesn't work like that...it'll be black whites fedoras transgenders...OH WAIT???
>>55886285
>yea cuz ur so smart u got it all "pretty much" figured out
Good point, better just stick to what you're told. Keep your head down, don't think too hard about it.
>>55886235
I can't tell if you're trolling or not. /pol/ is such shit these days.
>>55885405
But I do believe in God, spanishbro.
>>55886235
DOG a female??...one day you'll come back to 4 chan let's say in 20 years time and you'll regret this post as the most stupid thing you've done in you're life...
>>55885405
I don't believe in God. Most people around me are Atheists/Agnostics, so being religious is unusual.
>>55886151
>being this bait
>>55886088
>Putting historical figures on a pedestal and using their relevance to justify dumb beliefs
Yeah, you believe in God. I guess some are just born to suck others' dicks, real or imaginary.
>>55886345
>better just stick
>>55886203
No one needs to enforce a ban on religion. The Commissars were foolish to try it. All we need to do is let you practice your religion in a Western environment. Russian Orthodoxy is on the rise because their religion was suppressed, whereas American Christianity of nearly all denominations has been withering. The key to the destruction of religion is to let you practice it. People become bored once they realize that their faith is no longer a rebellious concept.
One day, when the rest of the world drags itself out of the Dark Ages and joins the West in it's glory, Islam, too, along with every other religion, will wither away and die. It is the natural way of Humanity to inexorably, if slowly, do away with childish things.
>>55885405
Im agnostic but I have no problem with people believing in a god (or not)
I do find it baffling people believe in petty gods like the Jewish/Christian/Islam "god". If there's a god, he sure as fuck doesn't care if you eat pork, pray or cut bits of dick of babies.
Being a theist is fine, by why follow one of the main religions? They are so obvious a load of shit I don't know what more to say, they only exist because they stopped out opposing ideals, not because they are anymore righteous.
>>55886203
mfw when I'm reminded religious retards like you exist.
>>55885546
Spiritual atheist here telling you to fuck off.
>>55885405
i believe in god. i was raised catholic and i hated it. in my teen years i went to some christian church held in an office building with my cousins, those years were great because i got to socialize with other teens in their youth program and everyone was nice. even there i noticed a lot of religious bullshit though. since then ive moved away from organized religion. currently im studying to be a chemist. in taking all my science courses(biology, chemistry, physics) you cant escape the beauty of how the most basic laws of our universe have created something so amazing(the universe).
not everything is known and the universe is so massive. if you respect science you can respect the fact that there is something more out there. most possibly not the bearded man with a diary created by men with values and morals created by men. but something else. i feel god to be the will of the universe, that is the laws that govern the universe. and really were all in just for the ride.
>>55885405
>You don't believe in God, do you?
Nope.
>If so, fucking why?
'cause it's a fairy tale for adults
>How can you be so dumb?
I'd be dumb if I did believe in D-g.
>You're an adult, you should know better
Exactly.
>>55886203
Because god doesnt exist and therefore couldnt save them??
come on, it's 2015.
>>55885405
lrn2metaphor
Einstein believe in God
Newton, Leibniz, and Oersted all believed in God, and were also religious
consider the likelihood that you don't actually have it all figured out just yet
I was 18 once too
>>55886615
I think the key is to let people practice it while not giving it any recognition in law.
>>55885405
I don't believe in religion, I can't disprove the existance of beings we could call Gods.
The universe is a wacky place after all.
>>55886618
>I do find it baffling people believe in petty gods like the Jewish/Christian/Islam "god". If there's a god, he sure as fuck doesn't care if you eat pork, pray or cut bits of dick of babies.
well it's usually aimed to better the human being, to purify him to the maximum.
also, this kind of false humility is really something terrible and harmful ; it bars the way to much more thinking and introspection.
>>55886643
>my face when when
>>55886684
You are an agnostic then!...welcome to the club...
>>55886739
Einstein also made incorrect assumptions about the universe and was the first to admit he was wrong, and said it was the biggest mistake he ever made.
Consider the fact famous people aren't perfect.
>>55885405
Go to bed Mohammed.
>>55886779
>mfw I realize I'm retarded
feelsbadman
>>55886853
do we get jackets?
>>55886763
Agnostic then...welcome to the club!...
>>55886358
Why would you believe different? You were born from a mother as well
>>55886764
Fair enough. But I think people should understand why doing certain things make them better human beings, not just because a book told them to do something.
Like you said, encourage thinking about the subject.
Im christian and but dont really have anything under my fedora for religion. I'd say yes for the bigger part
>>55885405
Being european and a christian is the ultimate kek.
Christians came and wiped out your natives religions and culture, and superimposed a jewish religion that speaks to middle-easterners and not the native europeans.
Stop being faggots and join your true religions - for nordics asatru.
>>55885405
Because religion is nothing but logical fallacies, see the sticky for details. nice Ad Hominem and strawman faggot
>>55886967
agreed
open your minds friends
the desert god is not there
>>55885405
I'm not religious because I don't want to believe in anything that isn't objectively true.
>>55886883
I'm stepping on the line jackets...just like a Tightrope walking...;-)
>>55887058
Religious is different to believing in god. Im agnostic but I believe in god.
>>55885405
Which one?
Yeah sure bro *tips*
>>55887261
SOOO
God doesn't want you to do something which is counter to your survival.
IE getting it from your hand rather then finding a women to love.
>>55887382
...then why do we empty naturally in our sleep, and why does it reduce prostate cancer risk?
>>55886615
>>55886643
The leftist utopia doesn't exist. If you give up your religion, muslims will naturally take over. An atheistic society is empty and bound to self-destruct. Atheism is just another facet of white guilt.
>>55887382
shh, leave the pornslaves alone ;)
God is that nebula thing in that Futurama episode, bottom line it gives zero fucks about us
>>55887382
How is masturbation counter to survival? If anything, regular emission is healthy to the human body. You can rarely achieve the same with women and what of those who woved not to take a wife or are homosexual, or are too young to find a wife yet?
>>55885546
what makes you believe there was a first cause?
>>55885405
>Do I believe that there are powers greater than us at work in the universe?
Absolutely
>Do I believe in western religion magic sky daddy that's involved in our day to day lives and hands out punishments?
Absolutely not
>>55887458
Because sleep is
the DEVIL
>>55885405
I believe in Geoengineering
>>55885405
>If you don't agree with my views 100% you are either autistic/degenerate/childish/jewish
Typical /pol/ thread.
>>55885405
Whatever
It seems no difference that someone believe in God or Doge
Gods are too unreleastic for me to be able to believe in them. In no way can an invisible flying sky wizard exist.
>>55885405
Tipico votante de Podemos. Iglesias goes downfall with no brakes!!!
Yeah. Why?
Because I'm temporarily only benefiting from this.
>>55885405
I want to believe and want to be religious, to attend all the religious activities. But I just can't force myself to give up fully to God. Would feel two faced. Either I believe fully or not at all. Maybe one day.
>>55885405
Yes, I Believe in God
Its called faith
Why does it bother you so much?
You act like a child and throw a tantrum because somebody doesn't think like you.
Such impotent rage
To add up my list:
I'm believing in things I only can benefit from
Like nofap,sport,learning,socialising,writing,multidimensional creature called god,my past self , my future self , Internet and adblocker
>>55885405
No idea, but I'd believed in CIA
>>55887459
>Leftist
Nice try m80
>Muslims will take over
"They will fall as well" ~Kratos
>empty
>Implying the only purpose in life can be found in theology
>bound to self destruct
But if it was empty then why would it self destruct? There's no oxygen in a vacuum to light a fuse.
>white guilt
>Implying that religion and race are mutually inclusive
>>55885405
Of course I know God is real - any honest, serious person with basic education in Logic knows God is real.
>-2/10, lousy troll
>>55886873
they're not just famous; they're brilliant
this wasn't some theoretical physics speculation either
if you understood how Einstein conceived of God you would understand why your objection is misplaced
>>55886137
... I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only son of God. God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God, begotten not made. One in being with the Father, through Him all things were made. For us men and our salvation, He came down from heaven. By the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate. He suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day He rose again, in fulfillment of the scriptures. He ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and His kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son He is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the prophets. I believe in one holy, Catholic, and apostolic church. I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
I guess the idea of some big bearded wizard in the sky is a cool idea.
>>55888099
Have fun in your childless and overaged society that will cease to exist after two or three generations.
>>55887926
Would you crash this plane
If I saw you in heaven
Would you tell me bout bane
If I saw you in heaven
You're a big guy if I took that off would you die
Cause I know for you I don't belong here in heaven
>>55885851
What is thy bidding lord?
>>55888309
>>55888533
Just another example of your amoral ways.
ITT
>I'm a hairless monkey which knows how the universe works
>>55885405
It doesn't hurt to believe that there is a man up stairs op. Not to mention that it can give you hope during the worst of times, even when you feel like all is lost. You can put faith that someone up there might just help you. Depending on how you were raised it can even make you a better person. If you die and nothing happens afterwards then there's nothing to think about since your dead. If it was the other way around, it's a good thing you said hey when you were alive.
>>55885405
You don't even know what the word God means.
Your statements have same value than dog's barking.
>>55888601
Muhammed, pls
>>55885546
>everything in this universe is based on causation
Who said anything had to apply "outside" of it?
The universe could very well just be an orderly fluctuation in a naturally chaotic energy wave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain
These sort of arguments are pointless when we don't know of the true nature of the formation of the universe, if there even was one.
I do, because my prayers are answered. I don't subscribe to any religion though.
>>55888690
Found the nigger
>>55888738
>It doesn't hurt to believe that there is a man up stairs op
You might need to explain why the most religious countries are the most violent and intolerant.
>>55885405
Yes pray for Paris
>>55889029
> I do, because my prayers are answered. I don't subscribe to any religion though.
As someone who wants to believe, but finds every religion lacking or missing something, how do you do that?
Christianity does feel close, but there's also something off about it, that doesn't let me fully believe.
Are your prayers simply talking with that something you believe in?
>>55887382
Yes, as a man with a wife and two kids it is really against my survival instincts to masturbate on occasion. Truly have I wronged this world.
>>55889050
not him, but to be honest when religion isn't the "culprit", who/what do you blame? Money, politics, culture, skin color, etc. ad nauseum.
That's just humanity, has nothing to do with religion.
ITT: children who would rather pretend to have the answer than admit no one has any clue what the truth is except those who die, and they can't come back to tell us.
If you attempt to claim you know there is or isn't a god, or what there is at all, you are still a child. You are not wise enough or old enough to understand that you comprehend nothing and that is the point. We are not meant to know or waste time debating about the existence or qualities of a life after this one. We are meant to spend time doing all we can to learn and grow and improve in this life.
STOP focusing on another life, another time, another universe, and focus on this one. It's all we can say we know and we still don't know much.
>>55885405
"All hypothetical situations are real somewhere" is my belief.
This universe is a hypothetical situation, probably originating from "What if big bang + these laws of physics"?
Manages to solve the question of "Why does the universe exist?" because all possible universes exist. Why this specific one? Eh, RNG.
As for who or what is imagining the universe, that is not required. A hypothetical situation can exist outside of a host.
So I don't believe in god, and I don't believe in the universe (being absolute - I know the universe exists from its own perspective), I don't believe in consciousness (except as a series of chemical reaction), I don't believe in free will, because NONE OF THAT IS PROVABLE. It's best to assume it's all some form of bullshitbubble-equivalent of a gluon ball.
Though if the universe does have an exterior influencing force, and that exterior influencing force gives a shit about Earth, then it sure is a cheeky cunt and a prankster m8 I can tell you that much.
>>55885405
What a troll. Clearly not a believer
>>55889121
I think, lip, or whisper words over and over again for a few minutes making heavy use of "please" and bargaining, I've found that taking a drawback with every prayer enhances it, but sometimes you set yourself up with a tough drawback you can't talk your way out of (find my keys to get to class on time but have a shit weekend in exchange).
Sometimes you can explain that if the prayer is answered, it will be good for the world, while if you try to pray for something which is bad for the world it is rarely answered without having a genie-style backlash on me.
I'm still experimenting with it, willpower and goodness are major factors in the likelihood of having a result.
>>55889250
who/what do you blame for killings in Paris? Money, politics, culture, skin color, etc
or Religion
>>55889328
Focusing on the answers improved technology and medicine you wouldn't live to see 40 if people were not focusing on the natures of the universe and the theories we come to
We need to focus on the unknown cause like te future it doesn't exist till we make it
>>55889328
There's a certain boldness in believing though. If you can't make a hard statement at some point, you're kind of a pussy to be quite honest. We do know that we don't "know", that's why it's called faith man.
Be a fucking man and believe in something.
>>55889050
I was saying that in a non-violent point of view. If you are a part of a group that wishes harm against others than that's a completely different matter. A majority of people are adults and should be able to tell the difference between what's right and wrong, and if they think that killing people in the name of their deity is completely acceptable, then that is wrong in my eyes and should be in others. Sadly, this is how the world should be but it isn't since there are people that want to kill in the name of snackbar and others that see it as their complete right to do so.
Oh how the world is. also >>55889250
>>55889437
>cherry picking one example
angsty youth detected. It's all good man, blame whatever you want.
>>55889467
Look, I'm an atheist. But I respect Christianity for what it's done to the world. But for the love of God is this spamming of Christ Chan really helping anyone to convert? It just seems like another attempt by weeaboos to be hip.
>>55885405
I believe God is evil, fallen, an evil demonic entity now. I call him The Bastard by name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer#God
>>55889595
The religious kill in the name of their religion.
Making excuses for them doesn't change that fact.
>>55889378
Says the troll memeing his ass off
>>55889613
She's a qt. Also a mascot at best. No harm done in posting her.
Red pilled on all things except religion. Top kekkity kek.
I'll tolerate Christianity because it's a bulwark against Islam
>>55889629
This.
If it does exist, we live in a Lovecraft universe.
>>55889723
Isnt that defiling the image of God if you post some fucking cartoon character as a representative of the religion?
>>55889613
I'm not trying to convert anyone anon, just saying my point of view. What you believe is none of my business, what would be is if people do the exact same thing that happened to paris here.
And christ chan is waifu tier
>>55889613
>>55885405
great memes paco. now fuck off and go back to your shit stinking hut so you can cry about your cousins having to dedicate the upcoming years to building america a great big wall you fucking idiot lmfao.
>>55889651
They use the excuse of religion but really it's just anger from France bombing them they only turn things into a holy war to believe what they're doing is right and not just simple revenge
It's like how the world hates USA it's not religion it's just anger for being the popular kid jealousy things like that but we can give it different reasons we disagree with most to label a cause
But really it's simple human revenge mixed with other obsessions
>>55889651
Yes they do, no I'm not, and no it doesn't. And the rest of the religious world looks on in horror.
Just like when someone kills in the name of being an "oppressed" white male a la the Rodge, doesn't make being a white male a bad thing. Some people are just crazy, that's my point.
>>55889911
So when their prophet says "Kill kaffir and got to heaven" you believe they ignore this clear instruction and instead become suicide killers because someone else has better toys?
Kind of, but I'm in lapsed phase right now
>>55885405
Prove that Santa is real.
PROVE THAT HE ISN'T!!!!
Why do we argue with these people again?
there's is no god but Allah
>>55890073
No I believe they obviously hate something it has nothing to do with religion but they will use that as their excuse to fuel their hatred towards somebody a lot of things we decide in life we aren't really aware of unless we have the time to realize our own lies
>>55885546
Who created god?
>>55890248
>it has nothing to do with religion
Religious people identify themselves by their religion, it obviously has something to do with their attitudes.
Atheism is about humility.
As an atheist I feel humble because I know that I am no more special or "better" than an amoeba, a horse, a cockroach or a rat. We are all products of evolution. None of us have been "chosen" or made special or put in charge of the others by some invisible but all powerful being.
It is my freedom to believe or not, so shut up, Pablito.
>>55890453
>Atheism is about humility.
Top fucking kek. Atheism is about power. They have ingrained the saying 'Knowledge is power' into their bones. If there is no God, then there exists the possibility that through science everything can be learned and they can control everything. If there is a God, then humans have to accept that there is someone above them and that not everything is possibly in their power. Atheism is pure hybris.
For me "god" is the exact same thing as "universe".
It mades up everything and is everywhere. Yet you cannot prove its existence (something along Cogito ergo sum, but not quite), so I CHOOSE to BELIEVE in god = universe = REALITY.
I detest religions and find them silly. Except of buddhism, but the original form which is no religion.
>>55891030
Today we have better morals than Jesus and Paul, not to mention the OT God and the merry parade of lunatics that descended from Abraham. Most people today unequivocally condemn slavery, genocide, domestic abuse, and unequivocally support the decriminalization of adultery, blasphemy, apostasy, etc. The same cannot be said of anyone featured in the Bible.
>>55891194
I'd like to see an atheist prove the universe is infinite
>>55885405
But, what is God really?
>>55885526
>newfags actually believe all atheists are trolling
people used to say it has always been shit here, but i seem to recall a simpler time where we made fun of religious people, not the other way around
>>55891373
I mean, I could accept he is the creator, but he's as incapable of doing anything as we are while watching a movie, we cannot change it's events.
God, therefore, must be a creator-spectator. Which makes it utterly irrelevant if you ask me.
>>55885405
I believe in God, simple as that
>>55891421
It's like the Trump effect. When he started saying Jeb Bush is low energy over and over again people soon started to believe him.
When shitposters on /pol/ started talking about religion, everyone magically converted to be in the cool kids' club.
>>55885405
I believe in God because I'm not some anti-science fedora wearing faggot.
>>55885405
Sssh, calm down little baby, someone will change your nappies and get you a bottle soon.
Mate, acting like some screaming little brat doesn't make you seem smarter than anyone else. Let people have their faith and go about your routine like any normal human bean.
>>55885405
I dont believe in god at all.
I dont see how anyone of average intelligence can believe in these fairy tales. You know why you were told this stuff when you were a child? Because if religion were withheld until you turned 21, then someone tried to convert you, you would laugh in their face and walk away because it is so nonsensical.
>>55891538
So why was it that religious people burned those who denied the earth being flat? I don't recall any scientists murdering people for disagreeing with them.
>>55891538
yeah you must have forgotten about the whole "four corners" of the earth, and going to the top of a mountain to see the entire world. yeah.
>>55890398
His mother you dumbass
>>55891331
>Today we have better morals than Jesus and Paul, not to mention the OT God and the merry parade of lunatics that descended from Abraham. Most people today unequivocally condemn slavery, genocide, domestic abuse, and unequivocally support the decriminalization of adultery, blasphemy, apostasy, etc. The same cannot be said of anyone featured in the Bible.
And you attribute those things to atheism? How much fucking more of a retard can you get? Those rights developed in a christian society and it borders on the absurd to accredit it to a movement that began to gain in numbers only in the last 20 to 30 years.
Every religion is a different blue-pill.
>>55891538
You forgot the part about the Sky firmament and the holes poked in it where the starlight comes through.
Also the unicorns, dragons, demons, etc.
>>55891629
Nobody believed the earth was flat. Nobody was ever burned for his scientific theories, only for diverging theological teachings and creating sects.
>>55891421
You are being counter trolled m8
>>55891878
It wasn't until the "church" imbued the populace with factious hatred
Catholic vs Arian,
Catholic vs Nestorian,
Christian vs Zoroastrian,
Christian vs Jew,
Christian vs pagan,
Christian vs enlightenment
and on and on that the "Dark ages descended upon Europe. And the "Dark ages" didn't go away until the Christian zealotry of the Crusades had dissipated.
>>55885405
>You don't believe in God, do you?
No.
>If so, fucking why? How can you be so dumb?
50% of the population have an IQ below 100, and a lot of them are raised in households which indoctrinate children with the religious belief of their parents.
>You're an adult, you should know better.
Children who are indoctrinated by their parents rarely escape their religion in later life, most of the religious decline we see today is from children growing up being allowed to choose.
>>55892221
Are all kiwis illiterate to pictures or are you just the village retard?
