I think american intellectuals finally got tired of being treated like punching bags. I go to leftist forums and I honestly have no idea what they are on about.
Its like they could give a shit about the poor, the middle classed, and our veterans. Honestly, I think they are smoking crack.
All they ever talk about is "identity politics". Its like they have gone completely bonkers, out of their mind with privilege.
I don't know what to do. I hate here, I think you guys are morons, but at least your honest about what you think and how you feel.
These people make me feel dirty.
>>55879415
liberalism isnt politics
its a thought process that destroys cultures.
/thread
>the shield
>>55879415
their way doesn't even work for fuck's sake
they waste the government's budget on feeding the poor scraps instead of getting them jobs or teaching them how to start a business of their own
socialism is a fucking cancer
>>55879415
What forums specifically?
>>55879415
The problem with the left is that they are overly empathetic. This allows the identity politics people to coopt them to their cause.
There comes a point where you have to say "no, i don't give a shit about your personal problems"
and leftists, intoxicated with their moral high ground, can't do that.
They all come out at the exact same time saying the exact same things, as if we're not aware it...
>>55879589
Giving the poor jobs would be great if the jobs actually paid enough for food and shelter.
>>55879415
lurk more
>I think you guys are morons
Rude. Why?
>>55879880
Stop sucking Bernie shriveled kike-cock for a while and pick up an economics book
>>55879415
Easy for white cis male to say isn't it, check your privilege.
>Liberals, democrats
>Appeal to emotion
>Logical fallacy
>Intellectuals
top kek m8
>>55879947
Like I said, giving the poor jobs would be great if those jobs paid enough for food and shelter. It's possible; the minimal wage was much higher (relative to inflation) in the past, and things worked out fine. Americans are just so brainwashed that they defend the multi billionaires who exploit them to further their own wealth.
>>55879880
most people have the opportunity to get educated and learn a skill or trade, if not a college career. Granted there should be more emphasis on trade schools and apprenticeships instead of trying to pigeon hole everyone into a four year degree.
But if someone drops out of high school to do drugs and go to sex parties, it's their own fault when they end up raising five kids alone while working at McDonald
>>55880065
Anon, they can sleep on the streets like they have been, and you can get a meal for less than a few dollars a day, or for free. Hobo living spaces made out of trash are actually cool as fuck. The homeless can just get shitty manual labor jobs where you can smell like shit and nobody cares, then slowly work up from the bottom
>>55879415
Sometimes the old ways are the best, OP.
>>55880344
>>55880373
>>55880090
>But if someone drops out of high school to do drugs and go to sex parties, it's their own fault when they end up raising five kids alone while working at McDonald
I agree with that, but what about the five kids raised in that shit situation? They deserve a chance to make it for themselves. You said most people, the problem is that it's not all people. Getting as close as we can to equality of opportunity will allow those who are truly the best at what they do to rise to the top; not just whoever was born into the most money.
>>55879880
trucking industry needs 400k drivers. you are welcome.
>>55879880
They do. The thing is, people need to stop getting their own places and either get roommates who pay their equal share of the rent or just live in your familial home and your whole family supports each other.
>>55880065
stop looking for min wage jobs.. what fucking idiot aspires to min wage?
>>55880426
those kids will be fine. liberals are all about giving their own money to the poor.. right?
>>55880426
Shits not going to ever happen like that anon. Even though you feel so hard, the truth is that those five kids are fucked and aren't going to make it. That's some real life shit you have to learn to accept. Most people aren't going to make it, and humanity will never be equal. Some people will have more than others and greater opportunities
>>55880565
Rent is so incredibly high in some cities that living with multiple roommates on minimal wage sucks out a person's entire income. The obvious solution would be to move, but how the hell do you have time to move when you're spending every waking hour working for $7?
Living with your family is the best solution, but some parents will just kick their kids out because muh bootstraps.
>>55880594
People who are unable to get any other job.
>>55880538
>tfw shit driver and can't be a trucker
Fortunately I'm well on my way to a successful career, but many others aren't given the opportunities I was.
>>55879415
I used to be a liberal. Now Liberals literally only care about policing society on a social level. Trying to perfect human culture into their weird vision.
It started with the new atheism movement. Alot of the left started listening to atheists and realizing how full of bad ideas it was, and how it negatively impacted society.
Then they realized that theres also ideas and mindsets not connected to religion that were unhealthy and needed to be rid of. So now theyre just attacking every idea they dont like.
>>55880876
by it, I meant religion.
>>55879880
OK I fucking hate this argument I joined the fucking marines right after highschool. Why because my parents said if I don't move out by the time I'm 18 they will kick me out on the streets so I joined got housing got payed for actual fucking work. Then I got out after 4 years looked for a job got one at 12 an hour work it currently 70-80 hours a week. Have my own fucking apt. Have my own car. And have food in my fridge whenever I'm hungry and still have enough money left over to be able to continue my smoking habit and weed habit. Why because I work my ass off so that I can get fucking promoted to a better position in the company I'm working for and won't have to work 70-80 hours a week. If they have kids as a single mother or father that's there own god dam fault unless, AND THIS IS THE ONLY EXCEPTION, that single mother or father is widowed. Otherwhys everything that has happened and put you in hardship is your own fault. If you grew up in a poor family it's not anybody fault but your parents fault for not doing better and if they grew up in a poor home same fucking thing.
>>55879692
This is actually a very concise and highly accurate summation.
>Underrated
>>55880876
It's honestly disturbing that their goal is to "correct" human nature when you break it all down
>>55880936
And guess what? The money exists for you to be able to work the same job for 40 hours a week and still get the same pay, but you apparently pride yourself on slaving away every waking hour to give money to your wealthy masters. Have fun being a cluck.
Also, your parents are fucking dicks.
>>55879415
This board is basically just nazi identity politics though. we're the same thing except flipped
>>55881056
I'm glad my parents were dicks it forced me to actually fucking grow up unlike all you pansies that just want shit given to you. And your god dam right that that money is there for me to get I looked for the job and then I sent in an application and then I went to a security audition and then got hired wasn't hard for that money to be gotten. But before I hate you completely do you want the wage to be raised to 15$ an hour?
>>55881056
Weak bantz m8
>>55881093
I don't know if I really agree with that. You can pretty much say anything you want here and none of us have any identity beyond our flags.
Because you can say what you want without much danger of anything (except being called a faggot) you do have people who have a hard on for being a nazi here, but nobody can silence you for not being nazi enough.
>>55879415
So is the right desu. Both have given up the hope to reach and influence the masses.
Or make any suggestion that is agreeable for the majority.
Or to fix or deal with important but dead boring topics like economy politics beyond muh taxes, responsible foreign politics or reforms of the pension system or whatever. Just circlejerking around muh identity.
>>55881401
Of course I want the wage to be raised to $15 an hour. That's just keeping up with inflation. It's not about wanting stuff given to me, it's about not wanting to be taken advantage of. Apparently you enjoy working for less than what you deserve, so again, enjoy opening your ass while the wealthy stick their dicks in it.
>>55881093
I am trying to imagine what nazi identity politics would be like, ethnic people working in Auschwitz creating phrases to empathize for the people they stick in their ovens reminding each other of the privileges they have as they cremate the bodies. Tweeting black lives matter as they barge into an ethnic families houses to euthanize any hiding whites and non-fundamentalists. kinda of a funny idea
>>55880426
Equality of opportunity is present, as evidenced by the insane amounts of tax dollars thrown at the public education bureaucracy. The problem lies in the simple fact that most of those families have no interest in seeing their children succeed, which translates directly to the poor performance of the majority of the students in those institutions. Those families are ok with living off the government teat. Contrast that to educational institutions funded privately, such as Catholic schools. Those students tend to be much more successful despite school budgets being a fraction of the public system.
>>55881684
Every single time I see someone try to justify raising the minimum wage, I get a different answer, and they're always wrong. Raising the minimum mage will NOT combat inflation, it will expedite it by lowering the value of the dollar. If even the worst fucking worker in the easiest, low-impact job is worth 15 fucking dollars an hour, then what do I pay the guy who works harder? If your answer is "more", then why am I raising the minimum wage in the first place? People being paid more for shit jobs won't magically make things better, and forcing employers to give more value to any Joe blow right off the bat is just retarded. Fuck you, get the slimy jew dick out of your mouth for a second, and think about what you waste your shitty votes on
>>55879463
"Liberalism" (in contrast to Classical Liberalism) is a mental disorder.
>>55881093
There's always one of you morons. Saying /pol/ is a mirror image of SJW mental illness is myopic as fuck considering the high turnover rate and ease of use of 4chan to anyone of any nationality and any political leaning. I don't consider myself right wing but I have more right wing values and nationalism than the self-loathing left. At this point, NOBODY is on board with the cultural marxist agenda and feminist bullshit. The vast, vast majority of people are against it. So to say that we're "the same but flipped" is fucking stupid since all we are is a place normal people are able to easily access and speak freely without repercussion and liberals finding our jobs and getting us fired for not agreeing with communism.
