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> Debate with bluepilled patents about "refugee" situation
> Be shit with rhetorics
Fuck
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>>55876924
It won't matter how good you are at debating. They will never listen to reason or Logic.
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Tell them to go hang out in areas the refugees live in.

Enjoy the cultural enrichment.
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>>55876924

Pepe has now given me a boner.
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>>55876924
>patients
A doctor prescribing the red pill? I like it.
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>>55876924
A racist who lacks competency in basic communication? No way!
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>>55876924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
try the this one
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Your parents are right m8
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>>55878797
is there lewds of islam-chan?
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The thing is, in the short term and on the surface. Opposers of immigration can alwas be painted as the "bad guys".
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>parents are more redpilled than me
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>>55876924
"Parents" or "patients"?
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>>55878757
Is it racist to point out the average IQ of different ethnicities? Or technological advancements of the past millenniums? Or the amount of violent actions committed by religious people in the past hundred years? Or the focuses of different ethnicities?

Did you compare aptly? Do you notice a pattern?
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>>55878840
thats a cute cat
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>>55878952
No patents.
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>>55879050
That'll be a tough-sell, so he'll need to really hammer the point home.
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>>55878839
none that I know of
>feels bad man
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>>55878952
>Doesn't know Germans are machines
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>>55878976
see>>55878797
How can you judge an ethnic group of people from situations they were either born into and have no control over or corrupt governments that do not help their own? Its asinine to judge according to average IQ's and such if those people do not have access to education or technology, dipshit.
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>>55876924
>talking to parents about current events

>dad comments about how fucking idiotic the "marxists" (his words) are

>mom, who I'm pretty sure has been a democrat for life, says she heard from carson that wars have become to "PC" and that she agrees

My dad hates dindus and my mom wants to kill mudslimes. Feels good to be American desu.
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>>55879235
Why do they not have access to education and technology and we do?
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>discuss with redpilled dad about "refugee" situation
>he thinks they should be returned to their country of origin, with the force of arms if necessary

Based dad.
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>>55879310
da whitteys be apressin dem n shit
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>>55878757
>if you don't agree with the policy on refugees you must be a racist XDDDD

please go back to reddit.
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>tfw Parents want immigrant fucks out of Europe just as much as me
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>>55879235
They were left to their own devices and they decided to play in the mud throwing rocks at each other over petty shit, they even got a plethora of aid from the western world at several points in history, without any slavery, monopoly, or overall negative things happening to them in return for this aid (with exceptions). And they went straight back to playing in the fucking mud, and now Europe is going to unreasonable extents just to accomodate for as many of these gits as possible just for them to scream about how awful the country they're refugees in is.

They had their chance, several in fact, and they blew them, and now they blow themselves in the air in a hissy fit. Do you think the situation would be any different if they had advanced while we were playing in the mud? Of course not, they wouldn't give us jack all, humans are like that, greedy fucks the lot of us. Another thing to take note of, why do these ridiculously poor people get fucking twenty children and then complain when they can't take care of the majority of them? Fucking idiotic is what that is.

It was a nice touch you added where you insulted me directly instead of providing anything of worthwhile note, but that's fine, since I'm throwing many rude insults at other people. The video you linked doesn't say anything against what I've said.
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>>55876924
>mfw a brilliant speaker, debater and extremely charismatic who has effectively red pilled all my friends and family
It's a gift I have
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>>55879115
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>>55879815
I'm not very charismatic but damn am I good at arguing
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>>55879815
How? What do you say? How do you say it?
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>>55876924
>tfw dad redpilled me about muslims and immigrants and I redpilled him about guns
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>>55878757
I thought this was religious vs. secular war, not racism? Am I on the wrong site, senpai?
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>>55876924
They're like daft punk when they were brainwashed to believe they were human.

Except they lack talent and are human instead of blue aliens.
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>>55878978
It's called a Palas Cat.
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>>55879818
why the fuck is serbia so cute
this is wrong, stop it
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>>55876924
is pic related pepe nami? Also why would I fucking care about your country turning into muslim scum? You are just paying for killing the jews.
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>>55879876
good lad
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>>55876924
>> Debate


That's your issue. Don't do this. It makes people confrontational.

Work it in over time. Start with little interesting factoids. Eventually start mixing in some more controversial ones that are based on the earlier, and just keep doing that.

And before you know it, everyone you know is more antisemitic than Hitler and will openly talk about this in public and bring it up with random people directly, and you wonder if you weren't a bit too successful.
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>>55879854
the socratic method and the "I'm sure its just a HUGE coincidence that whites/blacks...x"
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>>55879931
Serbia has always been a cute
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thank god nearly everyone im close to is fairly redpilled on it
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>>55879954
The jews were already plotting and controling the public opinion back in hitler's day. What hitler did wasn't perfect but at least he tried.
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>>55876924

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

This video is also a good way to turn even the hardest lefting against immigration. You can use this as the base for an argument that the only way we can solve world poverty is at the source, not by holding some sort of weird "lottery" where some people get to remain in abject poverty in their shitholes, while others get to come over here and still be poor here, but be relatively much better off.

Basically, just say that "Even if we drastically increase our immigration, we won't even make a dent in 3rd world birthrates, so the problems over there will only increase, and we create problems for ourselves by straining our infrastructure".

The first step to fixing the problem is controlling birth rates and increasing education, NOT immigration. This also always goes down well with leftists.
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>their evil
no

>I wish it was genuine refugee's like the yazdi's, but most of them are from Afghan and Iraq so unfortunately people abused a real crisis and that's why there's a huge problem.

Thats the starting point.
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>>55879854
You can have the best argument ever, but that doesn't guarantee success. What is required is your pitch, body language and voice projection, and your ability to color words and phrases.

Being able to talk loud is great, a deep voice is even better, it silences everyone in the room and you effectively become the center of everything.

Be confident, all of your body movement has to compliment what you say, moving your hands around, act out what you're saying. Chin up and look people in the eye.

I studied this shit, go to acting classes and stuff. I may not agree with everything he said, but Hitler may possible be the greatest speaker I've ever seen. Watch everything he does closely, watch what other great speakers do, they all share similar traits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnpTWKKWQ1o

You gotta ignite a spirit in people, but first you need to ignite the spirit in yourself. Leave people wanting to listen to you more, even if they don't agree with you at first, they'll be hypnotized by your enthusiasm. It needs to be fun for you, you're basically putting on a show.
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>>55876924
>debate with bluepilled parents about refugee situation
>be good with rhetorics
>they still think im a nazi because "muh feels"

fuck that
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>>55880266
>>55880078

Right, guess i'll practise in front of the mirror. I just hope the thought police does not catch me talking loud.

The only ones i need to redpill for the moment are my mom and sister. Dad has alwas been redpilled.
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>>55880280
This is the worst feeling ever
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>>55880128
I know m8, but the jews are taking the ultimate revenge now, the only way to stop it is nuke Israel, germany has no balls to do it (actually I'm not even sure they have nukes)

Well, enjoy getting sand-niggered I guess.
> pic related is now your 3d waifu for ever
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>>55878590
Being good at debating largely includes emotional manipulation. So in other words, just say the right things.
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>>55876924
My parent are now redpilled all the way.
My mother even hates jews
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Kindly remind your parent that most of the refugees support Shari law and are indifferent to Islamic extremism.

>but anon not all Muslims are terrorist.

True, but the only way for extremism to be so rampant in Islam is complacency and indifference from the majority of muslims.
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>be me
>have a redpilled family
>Even my eco-head sister votes republican or libertarian

M A K E A M E R I C A G R E A T A G A I N
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>>55878590
This.

They'll just tell you to shut the fuck up, storm out, or get overly emotional.
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>>55876924
Is not strange that most part of the old people are redpilled. They have a lot of experience, and most part of them are conservatives along the age. Only retards or people with zero real world experience still being SJWs when they reach old age
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>>55880440
Key to acting is to put yourself into the skin of somebody else. Just say "I'm confident, I'm charismatic, I'm smart" and rinse and repeat and soon you will be your character. This is how I got out of NEET shut-in status and I haven't regretted it.
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>>55880280
>>55880444
You have to sugarcoat it with lots of emotional appeals and you have to use different language with 'em. IE you can give a man a fish and he will eat for a day or you can teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
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>>55881157
The old people were hippies once and believed in crazy leftist shit, but than they grew up and became conservatives.
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>>55878938
Same
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>>55881451
I did, I completely did, and I'm not an aggressive fuck by nature so I traditionally don't say anything that could upset people
But at a point in the discussions you can literally see the glimmer of life disappear from my mother's eyes, she just says "I don't want to talk about this anymore" and stares at her plate in silence until the end
Way to feel like an ungrateful fuck desu
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>>55881972
I feel sorry for you and your family. Having geographical proximity to these savages must be bad enough, but for your government to not just accept but encourage them to cross your borders, harass your women, and chant for Sharia law must be pretty hard to take

Stay strong French bro
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>>55876924
Autism: The Eternal Struggle
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>p-papa und m-mama the re-refugees are bad mkay
>h-here watch this video about how die juden are responsible, that will r-redpill you

I wonder if you guys sound even nuttier IRL than you do here.
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>>55876924
>gf and I discussed
>she told me about how she would run a country
>looked very similar to NatSoc
>I said : so basically you're a NatSoc
>Yes, she said
>mfw
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>>55878976
yea actually if you do so in a malicious way thats pretty racist. theres nothing wrong with racism but thats what it is.
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>>55878976
facts can't be racist
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>>55882435
Marry her mapleman.
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>>55876924
>visit parents, see refugee reports on tv
>parents tell me about the time when i was young and german people were returning from russian-occupied territories
>how much they received as welcome gift
>how the guy in charge smashed up his own office in frustration because his old mom had to live on minimum pensions after living through the war and having worked and paid taxes all her life
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>>55876924
practice makes perfect anon
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>>55876924
>Dad is redpilled to hell and back
>Mom is a left activist
Now this is podracing
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>>55876924
>Debating with parents
>Ever
Ayyyyy
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>>55879931
I thought the frenchies were red pilled about the NATO propaganda about us
Guess not all
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>>55876924
Spend more time debating retards on the web.
There's plenty of "practice-people".

Learn to keep your cool and to counter the right argument.
It's like playing a video game where you have to identify the logical fallacies. If you identify the wrong one, the person will distrust you more.
If you get the right one, the person will be demoralized and may even reconsider their opinion in a few months or years.
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>>55876924
I recognized that girl
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>>55878757
>A racist who lacks competency in basic communication? No way!
A white-hater that calls white people racist whenever they don't obey the orders that lead to their own extinction? No way!
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>>55883374
Poland docet
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>wait until family ask politically incorrect questions
>provide sources for both sides
>invite them to compare the two
>since the left is so powerful and so delusional the truth is generally to the right
>now have to rein in family when they go full /pol/tard over the IQ gap or Germoney's control of the Euro
Such is life as a left-winger with more than five neurons.
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>>55876924
you are not critically minded

you probably have a sub 100 IQ

you are not capable of exploring the opposition's argument and beliefs, because it makes you mad, you feel a knot in your stomach when you do


it happens because you're a pussified bitch

to win a debate, you need to know your opponent's argument better than you know your own argument

i shouldn't have to explain why
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>dad sucks Israel ass
>Tell him America should stop giving Israel money, they're a terrible ally, and they should pay for their war crimes if jews are going to guilt other nations
>Tells me we are just keeping Israel on a leash and they dont really need us
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>>55883400
I'm not saying I don't like Serbia
I'm just saying it shouldn't give me a heartboner
You're still right on the bluepilled NATO-gobbling frenchies though, unfortunately
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>>55884428
tfw you will never play runescape in the early 2000s again

tfw you will never kill thousands of sand people guards to level up your skills
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>>55879235
reddit pls
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It's easiest when you tell them that the refugees are actually suffering from the situation. Tell them about money problems, how it leads to ghettos and helps radicalism to get born. Say that it's insane to have open borders while protecting those people.
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