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The media love to play up the militia movement and patriotic Americans as "right wing extremism"/"domestic terrorists" but they don't often talk about left wing extremists. What are some examples of radical leftism?
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>>55865867
Thanks CNN, but last I checked that shit isn't what a routine traffic stop looks like.
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>>55865867
Why would you add that "bigger threat then ISIS" line?
Why would you ignore the fact that this article is from February 20th 2015?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/anonymous-declares-war-islamic-state-6839030

Oh wait I know why.

Fuck off.
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>>55866371
>Why would you add that "bigger threat then ISIS" line?
CNN writes their own headlines, bro.
>Why would you ignore the fact that this article is from February 20th 2015?
Why do you think the date of the article to be relevant?

>shilling your anonymoose r legun shit
Fuck off, cunt.
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>>55866371
wrong link
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/terror-threat-homeland-security/
Point made though.
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>>55865867

We used to have left wing terrorists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground

probably some of these radical SJW groups will do shit that is terrorism or borderline terrorism, destructive riots, etc.
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>>55866540
You do know that CNN reserves the right to edit their headlines, right? For example if they get a strong enough backlash about them.
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>>55865867
Get some muscle!
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That dog's face says it all
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>>55866881
Prove it's edited.
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And this is the plan.

People get mad. People arm themselves. Gives the government a "reason" to fuck up whites even more. Less freedom etc. wait for it. All according to plan.
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>>55865992
Domestic terrorist detected.

Why don't you want machine gun men searching your car?
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>>55865867

Black Panthers
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>>55865867
>The media love to play up the militia movement and patriotic Americans as "right wing extremism"/"domestic terrorists" but they don't often talk about left wing extremists. What are some examples of radical leftism?

In Europe we have had basically no right wing extremism since WWII and a LOT of left wing extremism.

Who do you think the media has been warning us about?

Things have been slowing down on the leftist front and really heating up on the "religious" front (renamed as to not show that it's 99% islamic terrorists). But as you can see leftists are still double the number arrested for plots.

This is straight from Europol by the way:
https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2015

Again, the media doesn't talk about how overwhelming the "religious" AKA islamic terror threat is, or that the leftists make up double the right wing plotters.. but they sure do like to warn us about those terrible nazis.
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>>55865867
>"right wing extremism"
Oh yeah, huge threat.
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Worldwide the big source of terrorism is Islam.

http://www.visionofhumanity.org/sites/default/files/Global%20Terrorism%20Index%20Report%202014_0.pdf

4 islamic groups made up 66% of all terrorism deaths in 2014.
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>>55867055
The proof is in the screenshot.
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Another visualization from the same source.

Spot the trend.
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>>55867716
I read that as "best to worst terrorist attacks"
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The site Loonwatch made a little pie graph from FBI data. They are ideologically opposed to /pol/ and are islamic apologists. Their point in making this is to show muslim violence in the US is low (this is US domestic statistics from 1980-2005).

In doing so they paint quite another, probably unintentional picture.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

Spot the big "right wing extremist" threat?
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>>55867609
I've never used this image in a more appropriate situation.
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>>55867926

Using Loonwatch to prove that leftist, and even jewish extremist violence is a bigger issue than right wing violence is satisfying, but the time frame they picked is intentional to downplay islamic terrorism.

This site shows you a more contemporary picture of arrests made (because terrorism isn't just about who succeeds in their plots, right).

And that picture tells us that while leftist violence is bigger than right wing ever was, the idea that islamic violence is a small part of terrorism today is complete bullshit.

http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/analysis.html
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>>55868009
It's impossible to prove it by going to the actual article, since it has been edited. Yet there is direct photographic evidence and for some reason your response is to laugh at it.
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>>55865867
The media
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>>55868155
...
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>>55865867
Facebook shitposting, the media, and liberal arts colleges.
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>>55868146

I could go on with this shit, but it doesn't look like the thread is that popular.

Check sources for yourselves, the gist is that the different scales are orders of magnitude different.

1-2 right wing extremists to 10-20 left wing extremists to 1000-2000 jihadis.

I hope you lurkers and sporadic /pol/ browsers ask yourself why the media narrative brings up right wing violence as often as it does, and why it doesn't talk about left wing violence at all, and downplays how extreme the amount of islamic terror plots is compared to anything else.
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>>55868146
Looks like the only time nonjihadist is greater than jihadist is during an election year. This is a perfect illustration of the problem: American's get pissed and then we get over it, the jihadist are always pissed.
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An armed populace keeps the government honest so that they will not try to fuck with the citizenry.

It's a good thing that they are scared 2bh. Why else does every government on this planet want to disarm it's people?
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>>55868271

AAAAHHHHHH
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>>55865867
The FLQ used to be a left wing terrorist group in Quebec.

Some of the Injuns have done some stuff that borders on left wing terrorism. And the Occupy faggots. Of course the media would never label it that.
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How about Chairman Mao?

Killed millions.
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What's a bigger threat than ISIS? Sovereign citizens.

They're SO edgy they can't be confiscated!
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>>55865867

lol, they are playing that same card even here on media.
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>>55868375
>I hope you lurkers and sporadic /pol/ browsers ask yourself why the media narrative brings up right wing violence as often as it does, and why it doesn't talk about left wing violence at all, and downplays how extreme the amount of islamic terror plots is compared to anything else.

this.
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>>55868729
not just the government. but the people want to disarm themselves.
Its bizarre, you'd think all the tyrannical governments that existed in the last 100 years, which repressed the majority and genocided the minority, would make people realise that having the ability to defend yourself isn't such a bad idea?
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Isnt ISIS a right wing terrorist organization?
Im confused.

How can ISIS be bigger than ISIS?
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American living abroad here.
What's the Militia Movement like? I don't want to die for Israel. But I DO what to do something military related.
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>>55867328
>implying
Are you retarded?

Breivik? Lasermannen?

Right-wing extremism happens the most and kills the most in Europe.
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>>55869737
In Scandinavia*
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>>55869737
>Right-wing extremism happens the most

But this is wrong you retard.

Go to europol yourself and look at the statistics.

Breivik is an anomaly and outlier. He was just very successful because of how he planned it.
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>>55869698

Then you will do some border patrolling. This fear-mongering is baseless. Your "right-wing militias" aren't doing stuff that could harm everyday Americans like what ISIS and muh refugees would do.
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>>55869949
>In Scandinavia*

Oh nice attempt to try and save it.

Not only did you manage to sidestep the question posed by OP but you try to obfuscate even further by now not even denying what I've been saying. Which calls into question why you called my post retarded to begin with.

You also have no fucking stats of your own. Go find them.
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The media is the most weaponized branch of the radical liberals.
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>>55869949

Because I think you will be surprised to learn that even in Scandinavia leftist violence is much higher and commonplace.

Again, discounting a few very successful right wing killers you have heaps of left wing violence. The only difference is that they're not very successful.

Of course if you really want to get into this nest of vipers you would find that again right and left wing violence is fuck all compared to *drumroll*.. who do you think?
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>>55867241
>ar15/m4
>machine gun

stop
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2010.

Are you getting the fucking point yet?

Can you grow up and look at the statistics before spouting your mouth off next time?
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>>55870008
No Swden and Norway?

In Norway we have had two Nazis killing a black guy and Breivik.

Sweden have had a lot of attacks by Nazis, and Lasermannen 1.0 og 2.0 etc.

I will look after some statistics.

>>55870179
What is the left wing violence in Scandinavia? You have no statistics of it, only 1 Islamist attack in Denmark.
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>>55865867
>left-wing
>extremism
Pick one.
Leftism is just a different word for common sense.
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>>55870462
Common sense European self-genocide?
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>>55870462
I wonder how many of those rioters in Ferguson voted for Romney.
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>>55870462
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>>55865867
They are talking about sovereign citizens.

CNN is just clickbaiting by calling them 'right wingers' when they should be calling them anarchists.
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>>55870326
What point? That you are desperatly trying to cover up that right-wing extremism is what have killed the most people in Scandinavia byr far? That they have commited the most attacks?

Where is the statistics showing that there is more left-wing attacks?
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>>55870336

Here's one page about right wing extremism from the Europol summary in 2011.

I suggest you read it.

I suggest you look at the statistics showing 0-1 attacks these years in review. I want you to compare them to the column that says "left wing".

Again, check for yourself:
https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/publication/te-sat-2011-eu-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-1475

It's public information you idiot.
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What the fuck

Oh and black people designed the pyramids
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>>55870612
Yes, about the year 2010.

The question is wether right-wing extremism is over-played or not - in Scandinavia 100% of all deaths by extremism is caused by right-wingers.

You can find how many "sources" you want, that are not showing the picture.
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>>55870612

This is the statistics for the same year.

Right wing violence: 0
Left wing violence: 45

>>55870603
>That you are desperatly trying to cover up that right-wing extremism is what have killed the most people in Scandinavia byr far?

Are you joking at this point?

You interject to call me an idiot, then you change your argument in a way that makes your objection nonsensical (since I'm not talking about Scandinavia, this is EU, US and global terrorism reports).

Then I invite you to show the statistics for Scandinavia. You don't do that. You double down on the misleading idea that right wing violence kills "the most", without any sources, based on two cases of successful killers. You can't understand what an outlier is?

>>55870808
>Yes, about the year 2010.

Are you developmentally disabled?

I've gone through 2006-2011. Check the fucking stats. I posted them for you.
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>>55870808
And the majority of rapes, murders, and assaults are committed by foreigners, or those with foreign born parents from outside the EU

Which has done more damage than 258 dead greenies and a black guy.
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>>55870808

Exceptional year this time. A whole 5 terror plots from the right wing!

That's an increase of infinite percent since last year and is therefore the most pressing problem in Europe!
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>>55870899
http://johanhelge.vgb.no/2011/08/13/oversikt-over-drap-eller-livsfarlige-angrep-fra-h%C3%B8yreekstremerasister-mot-venstreorientertem%C3%B8rkhudede-i-norge-siden-1977/

>Are you developmentally disabled
Yes, and they claim there have been no right-wing attacks in Sweden in that period.

>>55871003
You actually believe that there have been 0 terror plots by right-wingers?

You see what you want.
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>>55865992
Pavlovian conditioning, media shills want us to get used to seeing this happen. Why be afraid if you got nothing to hide?
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>>55870996
Breivik killing like 77 people in Norway is worse than the rapes, murders and assaults here though, But in all of Europe, maybe.

But that is not the case; the Swedish guy here seems to believe that there have been 0 right-wing attacks the last years in Sweden (which is relevant because it proves that his statistics are not relevant to OPs theme).
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Let's summarize the years posted in this thread:

2006-2011
Right wing: 1+1+0+1+0+5=> 8
Left wing: 55+21+28+39+45+42=> 230
Islamic: 1+4+0+89+3+122=> 219

Yes, folks. That's right. For most of the contemporary era, left wing violence in Europe is actually bigger than islamic violence in Europe. That surprised me too. Obviously the picture changes as we would go further.

>>55871313
>You actually believe that there have been 0 terror plots by right-wingers?
>You see what you want.

You heard it here first folks, Europol has no idea what terrorism happens in Europe. Statistics are biased and racist. Instead of Europol you should trust a norwegian blog.
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>>55868375
Thanks based Sweden. You just saved me a lot of trouble in an argument I was having in another forum.
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>>55871547
Between 2006-2011 there have been 230 left-wing attacks - and only 8 Right-wing?
Impressive :) But not true.

Historically both the RAF and IRA could be called left-wing, so obviously in the past left-wing terrorism and attacks is in the lead.

So you actually believe that? What is Lasermannen 2? I know it is common Nazi-tactic to just lie over and over again, but I am not sure if you are an organized Nazi or not.
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>>55871446
>0 right-wing attacks the last years in Sweden
>(which is relevant because it proves that his statistics are not relevant to OPs theme).

What OP actually posted:

>>55865867
>The media love to play up the militia movement and patriotic Americans as "right wing extremism"/"domestic terrorists" but they don't often talk about left wing extremists. What are some examples of radical leftism?

USA, right and left wing extremism. Terrorism. All that is relevant to OP.

But of course since I've posted and made the clear case that right wing violence is a speck on the radar of terrorism worldwide you can't argue against it without disagreeing with every reputable source on the subject.

So you retreat and redefine the topic to be about Europe, then you go "oops" and say it's Scandinavia, now you go "oops" and say it's Sweden.

Disprove all the statistics presented this far to show how right wing violence is an issue in the US and the world, and how left wing violence isn't, if you want to contribute something to OP.
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>>55865867
Virtually the entire education system
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>>55871755
>Between 2006-2011 there have been 230 left-wing attacks - and only 8 Right-wing?
>Impressive :) But not true.
>But not true.

SHOW THE STATISTICS
DISPROVE IT

Your ass is not a source. Your feelings is not evidence.
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>>55865867
does anybody have that photo of the salon article saying europe should let more refugees in?
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>>55867328
>Religiously Inspired
>UK not categorizing their attacks at all
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>>55865867
Don't ever let them take your guns America. Not ever.
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>>55871774
Man, are you stupid or an active nazi propagandist?

>>55871884
How can I disprove your fantazies? If you claim that there have been 230 left-wing attacks, you are the one that need to come with statistics idiot.

I can look after right-wing attacks while you find the 230 left-wing attacks. Good luck.
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>>55871313
There's are lists of people who are considered likely to commit serious political crimes. In Germany we have 420 islamist on that list. And 15 from the right wing.
That's just for SERIOUS political crime, things that would have a bigger impact than torching a random empty refugee home here and there.

France has a list that contains more than 11.000 islamists who are considered a threat to safety right now.

Absolute surveillance and prevention cannot exist, for lack of manpower if nothing else. But in the grand scheme of things, surveillance with larger intervals, they are pretty damn good at keeping an eye on terror plots.
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>>55866863
Now those same left wing terrorists run the government, the media, and the educational system. Hell, a former Weathermen fucknugget helped give us Obama.
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>>55872003
Yes, but this Swede claim that between 2006 and 2011 there have been 230 left-wing attacks and "only" 8 right-wing attacks.
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>>55871991
He did you fucking faggot. He posted the links to Interpol and screenshots of their charts. Wtf is wrong with you?
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>>55871991
>If you claim that there have been 230 left-wing attacks, you are the one that need to come with statistics idiot.

At this point you are either an underage leftist or trolling.

You have the sources in this thread.

You can go to Europol and read their terrorism summaries for each year.
Go to the FBI database and check.
Go to the Global Terrorism Index and check.

Everything I posted is sourced. You are retarded.
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>>55865867
Carlos the Jackal
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>>55870462
Ehm... Rote Armee Fraktion?
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>>55872149
go back to >>55870612
and read the report.
It's a gradation, a specialised term for a certain type of crime. Right wing extremism exists, a short summary is presented under point 8.2 of the screenshot - but not every act of extremism is an act of terrorism.
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>>55865867
Is the American government seriously pulling this shit again? You know, it should wake a LOT of fucking people the hell up that this country is totally overrun with nigger crime, illegal Mexicans, supposed muslim terrorist threats (which everyone knows is false flag bullshit), but the only thing they're ever worried about is "dangerous White militias".
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>>55871976
This. I'm actually against personal gun ownership, but the officials of this country aren't even being subtle about their endgame at this point.
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>>55865867
Pol is getting dumber by the minute, first of, there is no such thing as leftist terrorism idiot, they are right.
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>>55870462
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

Man is literally guilty of bombing and he went on to teach at a university and advocates "education reform". Motherfucker should be a rotting corpse. If he'd been "right wing" and even SUSPECTED of THINKING of doing anything of the kind, he WOULD BE.
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>>55872202
Do you know how big these PDF-files is? The thread would die before I managed to check them.

I am reading the one for 2015 now, and there was 34 right-wing attacks in 2014 only according to the report. 13 left-wing attacks the same year.

I can go back and read the ones between 2006-2011 too, but the thread will be dead before that happens.

And if Lasermannen 2 do not count as a right-wing attack, then the statistics have big flaws.

>>55872214
I am checking them, but as you know, the PDFs are pretty big. Read^

No, everything you posted is not sourced. To source it on an image-board like 4chan, when you post links to PDFs that are huge, you need to tell what page you would find it too.

I could give you links to 100 books that you would have to read - and I could not claim that I have given you sources for my claims, because we are not going to talk again.
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>>55872970
>No, everything you posted is not sourced.

...

>I am checking them

Oh. You found the sources I posted that I didn't source.

>when you post links to PDFs that are huge, you need to tell what page you would find it too.

There's this thing called the "table of contents". I know it's hard to handle.

>I could give you links to 100 books that you would have to read

These are ~30-50 page booklets. With big indexes. And you're looking for the tables. Jesus fucking christ.
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>>55868271

has science gone too faR?
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>>55872214
Do you know they consider "violent" (a police cop being hurt/something destroyed) leftist demonstrations as attacks?
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>>55872554
Nothing about communism is terrifying or anything...
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>>55873169
44 right-wing attacks in 2007

Want me to read the other sources? Sure you have checked them yourself?
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>>55866863
SJW's won't do a thing because they're incapable of actually doing anything other than holding signs and posting on twitter. Black power groups might do some terrorist actions, but they're not exactly SJW's.
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>>55865867
>What are some examples of radical leftism?

most of them are historical, like the weathermen. those that remain are shit groups like occupy and black lives matter.

The terrorists of former days, like that ayers fellow, simply decided to stop chucking bombs in favours of infiltrating institutions.
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>>55865867
>What are some examples of radical leftism?
The Obama administration.
inb4 some Marxist spergs out because he assumes I'm calling him a communist and that's not how communism works
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