So the German intelligence agency has stated that a large portion of Germany is becoming radicalized due to all these refugees flooding their country, and Merkel now arresting anyone who speaks out against it.
If civil war breaks out in Germany, will we get in trouble if we support the based rebels that want to take their country back from the refugees and Merkel?
Like, are we allowed to support the German rebels without the NSA coming down on us?
>>55860260
Of course, America loves supporting rebels.
you mean like a Boston - IRA type deal? CIA would probably just turn a blind eye again 2bh
>>55860260
if we can avoid getting arrested ourselves i'd go for it, easily
>>55860350
Unless those rebels are against US interests.
Like, I doubt we would get in trouble for it if a conservative was in office. But with Obama the nigger, that might be a no no
>>55860260
sources?
>>55860260
If you post on /pol/ you are already on the NSA watch list
So a minority of Germans completely hate the sand niggers overtaking their country and are planning on doing something about it?
Fourth reich confirmed
>>55861850
> minority
About 30-35% of the country
>>55862132
And the Nazis started with a fraction of that.
Justice is coming.
>>55862287
only problem is that they're arrested and publicly looked down at
i really hope the security guards at the prisons aren't hardcore bluepills/replaced by refugees and that they have a good armory to arm EVERYONE in the prisons
>>55862132
>30-35%
>not a minority
Anything under 50% would be the minority faggot
>>55862712
> anything under 50% is a minority
TOP KEK! You're a retard.
>>55860260
listen up NSA scum, i support Germany for Germans, all those "refuges" should be halted and not allowed in there. matter of fact they should be tossed in the ovens along with you NSA cock suckers.
Fuck You.
sincerely
The Last Whitey, BECAUSE I MUST BE THE LAST FUCKING ONE LEFT I MEAN LOOK AT THIS SHIT HOLE OF A WORLD NOW.
>>55860260
If a war breaks out I'll take a flight over and join, but what are the chances of it actually happening?
>>55862867
Goddammit ameribro you're making us look bad. Minority =49% or less
Stop with the Hitler images and racist language.
If you want to be successful in changing policy on migration into Europe, you won't be effective doing it that way.
>>55860260
>arresting anyone who speaks out against it
how the fuck is this legal? This is ostensibly the leading democracy in the EU, do they not have free speech?
Is Merkel literally Hitler?
>>55863309
(same poster)
...and I don't say this as meaning you should compromise or accept bad policies, but rather that if you really care about the matters you need to take the approach that will WORK. You do actually care, right?
>>55863096
Okay retard allow me to explain.
If you have 40% of people that are white, 20% of people that are black 20% mexican and 20% jew, who has the majority?
Fuck off idiots
I thought this was a /b/ thread from all the shit posting.
>>55863541
bro, there's IDs to your post. plus this board is literally named politically incorrect, it's a board made for misbehaving and should in no way reflect your how you express yourself
i would like to think anons here know that
One of the dudes in jail is now writing "Mein Kebab" book...
Fuck refugees, I HATE them, I wish Hitler would return and EXTERMINATE ALL REGUGEES.
And, I have not a single fucking care in the world what your pussy, German shitfag government thinks about me for posting that.
Fuck you, Germany, you faggots. As a German-American, how unfortunate I feel this way. But Germany is just awful these days.
>>55863096
He's not an American, just another filthy illegal mex.
This shit will be like the Spanish Civil War 2.0.
Feels gut.
>>55863561
in that scenario, whites would have a plurality but not a majority
>>55863561
>30-35% are radicals
>65-70% aren't
God bless the American education system.
>>55864148
Settle the fuck down you stupid faggot. You're hating the wrong people. Anyway Adolf Hitler would NEVER condone violence against refugees.
Stop thinking Hitler was this racist, islamophobe... He was NOT. Deal with it.
>>55863829
Yeah. I'm used to usually having to write 'same poster' elsewhere. Force of habit.
As for your other point, heh, I certainly hope so!
Question to Gerkeks ITT.
Is there any kind of popular and charismatic German Colonel/General who could conceivably lead a successful coup?
>>55864494
You're actually right, hitler loved Islam.
and you're also right, the refugees are not the problem. People like Merkel are the problem.
>>55860260
If Civil war breaks out in Germany, I'm on the next flight over there to join them.
>>55864494
ironically enough Hitler just wanted to deport jews
>>55860260
We wouldn't have to do shit. Russia would dump tons of arms on the rebels. It would be like a reverse Berlin airlift.
>>55864494
Genuine refugees are not a problem, Islam is not a problem.
Putting Islamic refugees and Islam into a White Christian Nation is a problem.
>>55860260
The United States military exists for two reasons.
1. To destabilize or destroy the state military powers in the region surrounding Israel.
2. To ensure that Europe never again does anything against Jewish interests. Like say for example refusing to be Israels biological dumping ground.
2 is actually far more important but there's been no need since WWII. If Germany or Poland or Hungary gets too defiant and stops sufficiently tonguing the asshole of Jewish interests there will be burger boots on the ground within the hour. We will glass Europe if they resist their demographic annihilation.
>yfw you realize that the U.S. is the global antifa with the most reach and firepower of any force on earth.
Abandon all hope. ..
>>55864026
Source.
They're just moderate rebels. In a battle between them, ISIS and Merkel's minority government(jewish), it's obvious where our support needs to be.
>>55865031
> the US military which has existed since 1776 is only here to protect Israel which came into existence in 1948
U wot m8?
>>55865257
Mate, Jews have wanted the state of Israel for a lot longer than you think.
The jewing of politicians really picked up just before WWI though.
Here's sauce of anyone is interested
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/12/berlin-police-raid-10-sites-in-german-capital-in-crackdown-on-online-anti/
>>55863309
>>55863541
get a fuckin load of this guy
>>55865351
Just a tip. Don't mix your conspiracies with what's going on in real life. That's how the movement will die.
>>55860260
If there were a viable German resistance I would help them however I could and without regard for whatever petty consequences my own government might impose.
>>55865410
Anything to do with Generation Identity?
They had a march recently...
>>55865257
Things change man. Since WWII at the least that has been our goal.
When do we get the day of the rope: aka Kristalnacht 2 Electric Boogaloo?
>>55865506
Exactly. The who what and why of what the enemy is doing isn't nearly as important as working together to stop them. If you get caught up on all that shit you're just going to get dragged back down with it. Stop looking back and march forward.
>>55865030
I see that, but which forces are facilitating their entry into Europe and which forces created the refugee crisis in the first place by destabilizing Syria and Muslim countries?
>>55863096
Nigger, if you have 35% who are against something then you still dont know how many are for it. Maybe 60% 'arent sure'? My entire family would be part of that. They will never say anything negative, but they sure as hell wouldnt support it either.
>>55862638
>only problem is that they're arrested and publicly looked down at
Please redpill me on where Hitler was when he wrote Mein Kampf
>>55865571
> since the end of ww2, the US main goal is to protect Israel
> it wasn't to defeat communism and destroy the Soviet Union and make sure they never rose to power again. That's just silly talk. It's all about the Jewish illuminati.
This is why the majority of people can't take this place seriously. Your fixation on kikes is really unhealthy.
>>55865761
And who was in control of the USSR? You think those were Russians other than Stalin?
>>55865847
> who do you think was in control of the USSR.
Communists.
>>55865031
This. Spot on, I'd say.
>>55862638
>only problem is that they're arrested and publicly looked down at
Good, it will be the root of the new world.
>>55865908
Like 95% of commies were kikes
>>55865737
good point, but the timetable for a revolution pretty much says there's no time
>>55865553
As far as I know, you can support a cause but if the US government determines them to be a terrorist organization, then its a federal crime. It's justified by the fact our allies may not like it if our citizens were supporting terrorist organizations.
>>55865730
The silent majority will rise.
murkel is gonna run out of jails sooner or later, jails are verboten too aren't they?
>>55865958
And like 99% of Chinks are Commies. So what's your point?
>>55863561
>Okay retard allow me to explain.
>If you have 40% of people that are white, 20% of people that are black 20% mexican and 20% jew, who has the majority?
>Fuck off idiots
this is the plurality the jews have been shooting for.
however, they really want whites at 15% and hipsanics at 40%
>>55865986
That's how I've understood it as well. I would support a righteous cause irrespective of what the US government thinks, however. They lack the legitimacy at this point to declare who is and who isn't a terrorist.
>>55866071
>Implying she would jail those poor innocent misunderstood refugees.
>>55860561
This!
>>55866287
> plurality/Majority
Same difference
>>55860443
this.
I was a Marine in the early 90's, had an Irishman in bootcamp, started debating one of the instructors on the IRA, the instructor was told to stand down.
We really don't care unless it is a direct threat. And by the way, most of the world supported Hitler before the Jews re-wrote history.
>>55863829
>it's a board made for misbehaving and should in no way reflect your how you express yourself
>this is what liberals actually believe
the board was made to discuss news, then moot got butthurt when people kept discussing niggers and jews creating bad news since he is a real life new york kike.
>>55862132
>>55862287
if something like Paris would happen in Germany (never happened yet unlike Spain, France, GB) people would start going very right wing. people are fed up here not beeing allowed to speak their mind and that policies don't change, no matter who you vote for.
Also the mass media bias is seen by large parts for the first time.
We have a differnt mindset from the French. In France you can become French and be accepted, if you abide by Egalité, Liberté, Fraternité-kind of thinking. In Germany people say anybody can become German, in reality everybody will ask you 'where are you from?' if you have darker skin. It is just how we always rolled.
>>55860260
I think they have more important things to do than hunting down people who type ''gogo germans'' on an image board
>>55866558
anon...you mean to tell me that you what you just typed is how you talk to people in everyday life?
>>55866568
When you start getting arrested for speaking out against Merkel, you have some serious fucking problems. I suggest you address those problems soon before you lose total control.
>>55860260
What if these "radicalized germans" are actually radicalized muslims and that's why Merkel won't let anyone speak out against it?
>>55860260
The NSA only likes it if you support moderate rebels in Islamic countries.
>>55863491
there were some cases where, after posting 'hate speech' on FB, some people got in trouble. Worst was, that their employer fired them!
There is no mass persecution though, but there are only few forums, where you can posts anonymously. Many newspapers have blocked comments completely or they censor them heavily.
That makes the comment section more fun to read, that are open. It is increadible how attitudes have changed in a years time. Things are said and not censored that would be unthinkable a year ago. But only anonymously, if somebody calls you and asks you for your opinion, Germans will NOT answer truthfully. That's why I wouldn't trust any polls that are not conducted absolutely anonomously like the votes.
>>55866726
Yes. And so do the people I work with. Political correctness is isolated in very specific branches of industry and academia. Everyone else tends to say nothing out of politeness but we are all collectively sick of your bullshit especially since it keeps getting innocent people killed.
>>55866788
I think you're confused.
When I say radicalized, I don't mean islamic radicals.
>>55860561
so they watch me because i like to shitpost here all day? im kind of pissed my tax dollars went into them watching me shitpost nonsense instead of doing something helpful like exposing Hillary.
>>55866964
i'm actually pretty jealous if you're not bullshitting
>>55864732
>charismatic German
Not atm. Anyway, we'd need to import him from Austria or maybe Switzerland. It's tradition you see...
>>55866984
nsa doesnt give a shit about you or what you do. the reason liberals stir shit about muh rights is because they know the nsa is targeting sandniggers and by extension being 'racist'. IT undermines their nation wrecking so they make up this big lie about how the nsa is watching you masterbait
>>55860260
Anyone got an English sauce on this?
I've been really hoping a new Hitler would emerge somewhere in Europe as a reaction to the European leader's callous disregard for their own citizenry. Gonna monitor this shit very closely.
Trump warned them
>>55867078
as long as you arent in a business with an HR department (ie liberal feminist marxist cunts who exist soley to enforce the narrative), just drop a few nigger or jew jokes and see how people around you respond.
>>55865960
I think there's plenty of seeds already there, and thanks to based easy mass communication (unless that is they shut it down) there won't need to be as long of a timetable.
You make a good point thothough the NSDAP had a domestic plan from Day 1, whereas this shit will devolve into OWS unless there's rebels over there that act swiftly to give fellow pissed Krauts direction.
>>55863309
>implying reasoned debate will cause Merkel to see the error of her ways
Oh you sad, naive anon.
Here is one news source on the middle class of Germany becoming radicalized.
http://www.infowars.com/middle-class-becoming-radicalized-in-backlash-against-migrant-influx-warn-german-security-experts/
> inb4 Alex Jones hurdur sell a water filter
Info wars has had many articles that are correct.
>>55865031
>Jewish interests there will be burger boots on the ground within the hour.
>will be
they are already here. there are around 60k foreign soldiers on our soil. we have only 180k under arms. Merkel and any other Govt will and does EXACTLY what she is told. Don't believe for a minute major policy issues are set in Berlin.
>>55867290
>Disagree with elite's agenda
>"radicalized"
>>55867330
Then why are other European countries not wanting refugees? She personally has said it's your duty to take in refugees.
>>55860260
What the fuck do you think you completely retarded motherfucker? The NSA is part of the establishment that has made what's happening in Germany possible in the first place. The NSA, CIA, FBI, foreign dep, the entire western establishment is one big cesspool of Anglo-Zionist minions who work tirelessly towards the extermination of the white race.
TLDR: CIA will assassinate you if you support pro-white causes for real and actually start posing a threat rather than being a passive keyboard warrior.
>>55866736
When problems get that bad, losing control is pretty much the only way to salvage anything.
On the bright side, Merkel wouldn't be going full Stasi unless she had pretty watertight intel that the pissed off German demographic isn't anything close to a controllable minority and that the likelihood of a Würschtout is dangerously high.
>>55865730
>>55866029
people will publicly stay silent. If you just give a hint of your power level, they'll gradually open up and you notice the wide spread anger here
>>55866961
>there are only few forums, where you can posts anonymously.
>It is increadible how attitudes have changed in a years time. Things are said and not censored that would be unthinkable a year ago. But only anonymously, if somebody calls you and asks you for your opinion, Germans will NOT answer truthfully. That's why I wouldn't trust any polls.
This 100%
>>55860492
Look at this retard completely not understand anything.
What is ''US interests''? Can you explain this to me? I can explain it to you: US interests are the interests of the civilian population that lives in the United States.
Unfortunately for you, retard, US interests isn't what has been pursued for the past few decades, it is other peoples interests which have been pursued, the interest of the 0.001% top Anglo-Zionist elite of the west is who gets their interests served by brainwashed fools such as yourself.
>>55860260
Is it time yet?
Where do I sign up as a volunteer?
>>55867472
> it's not our fault! It's America's fault that our countries are full of SJWs and our leaders are all left wing shills
> Le Zionist
1. Sweden hates Israel and is pro-Palestine.
2. If you're just going point fingers and blame us, then you can get fucking taken over for all I care.
>>55867472
You forgot the American scouts, scouts are the worst, they also hate faggots my buttbudy.
>>55860260
i wouldn't exactly call it radicalisation so much as a measured and conservative response to merkel deciding that germany needs more rape and murder.
>>55867472
This
I will support whoever lets me think 2 plus 2 makes 4.
>>55867781
Kill yourself apologetic faggot
>Merkel gets raped by shitskin
>Karma
>>55866736
>When you start getting arrested for speaking out against Merkel
you don't get arrested for saying that, silly. you get arrested if you generlize something about a group of people. you need to know how to package your critsism and you are gold on the legal front. there is the social shaming though.
>>55867498
>Merkel wouldn't be going full Stasi unless she had pretty watertight intel
they are already full stasi, with the help of your NSA buddies all our communication is monitored. they'll warn her in a timely manner, who could get dangerous for her. i'm sure there is enough dirt on anyone to get a control on the situation, before it is even near of beeing mass organized. We are in an Orwellian State. Stasi were noobs in comparison.
>>55867918
It'n not rape if you enjoy it.
>>55867556
>Anglo-Zionist
>Anglo
Stop the divide and conquer shit. The reason the US is a failing clusterfuck is because we've been slowly bought out by multiple groups.
The Zionists hold a large share of our 'market shares' to be sure, and they're a cancer that needs to be removed, but there's also in direct opposition to them the domestic cultural Marxist Juden of the type you find in the EU. There's also a suspiciously huge low-key influence by the Saudis, (who were responsible for most of the hijackers on muh 9/11.)
We can't accomplish shit because we're being pulled in multiple directions, all of them bad. Obama is a communist kike shitshow for a lot of reasons, but his worst aspect is that he came in with no hard political power or influence in our government. He's been a pawn for special interests to a larger extent than even Bush throughout his term.
>>55867973
> social shaming
Like Niggers calling you a cracka and telling you to acknowledge your privilege?
>>55868010
But Obama hates Netanyahu, and so does like every other Liberal EU leader.
>>55867893
>apologetic faggot
Did you just call someone who criticizes the anglo-zionist control of the US government which is causing the extermination of the white race an ''apolegetic faggot''?
Fuck off anti-white.
>>55867612
>1. Sweden hates Israel and is pro-Palestine.
No they don't, they pretend. Actions speak louder than words, if you're so stupid you fall for any and all words but can't see the actions, then you're indeed stupid.
>2. If you're just going point fingers and blame us, then you can get fucking taken over for all I care.
We already are taken over, if you didn't know this, then you're bluepilled.
>>55860260
Releated music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEc_xIUMvfg
>>55868210
> tfw sweden calls someone anti-white
>>55868010
>Stop the divide and conquer shit.
Yeah because I'm the one conducting divide & conquer, right?
No, I'm just accurately conceptualizing WHO our ENEMY are. It is the top 0.1% ANGLO-ZIONIST elite of western societies. To claim they're only anglos or only jews is completely false, it's protestant/atheist white anglo-saxons, liberals and capitalists, and atheist askhanezi jews, zionists, there's also crossover between them.
These people are our enemies, the ETERNAL enemies of the white race and all of humanity, their objective is the mongrelization of the white race to create a one world government over which they are the untouchable ruling class.
>>55861850
I am disappointed in this weed lmao.
>>55867973
>they are already full stasi, with the help of your NSA buddies all our communication is monitored. they'll warn her in a timely manner, who could get dangerous for her. i'm sure there is enough dirt on anyone to get a control on the situation, before it is even near of beeing mass organized. We are in an Orwellian State. Stasi were noobs in comparison.
I'm literally agreeing with you /fa/m.
But the NSA shit doesn't explain her 180 in terms of crashing the EU.
It was made public and was greeted with outrage both here and in Europe, if she was being blackmailed to crash the EU, she could have easily outed the entire plot and almost everyone would have been on her side.
Further, how does the inevitable collapse of the EU benefit the US? Our lobbyists were steadily gaining control in Brussels, Euros weren't overly against the EU, and nationalism was NOT on the rise, all while your economy was stagnating and would have effortlessly crashed within 20 years under the strain of the steady influx of shitskins you were already getting.
>>55868260
Hello CIA.
>>55868134
>But Obama hates Netanyahu, and so does like every other Liberal EU leader.
Obama doesn't hate Netanyahu, he pretends to hate Netanyahu, whom in turn pretends to hate Obama.
Congratulations, you're so stupid you've fallen for the fucking obvious theatre play.
>>55864806
Oy vey remember the six trillion
>>55868371
You caught me. Here's an idea, quit being a finger pointing faggot, and maybe you won't be such a kuckold.
>>55868311
>It's the ANGLOS
>Except it isn't
Fuck man, figure your shit out. I agree with 99% of what you're saying, but pls.
>>55860260
>German intelligence agency has stated that a large portion of Germany is becoming radicalized due to all these refugees flooding their country
Wow, did they actually say that? Considering all the censoring there, I would have guessed that Germany would keep it a secret if it ever got to that point.
>>55868429
> obama pretends to hate Netanyahu
>>55868210
> Sweden pretends to hate Israel
Dude you're a shit posting faggot. Kill yourself.
>>55867442
>Then why are other European countries not wanting refugees
which other EU countries have 60k mostly US soldiers on the ground? what country is still occupied? Many countries have a govt that is actually looking out for the interest of the people that voted for them.
Example: The last govt (also under Merkel) said it wants the US nukes on German soil gone. They serve no purpose here. They are still here.
>She personally has said it's your duty to take in refugees.
What is the alternative? Yes, close the border. What would that mean? you need to enforce it. What would be the result? A lot of videos of German cops/soldiers waterblasting refugees back on Austrian land. These images is what she fears. She is afraid of bad press. Weak spineless cunt she is.
She will do it in half a years trime though. when the situation is so bad, that everybody will agree with her, only then she'll so it.
I've been waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and STILL you Jerry bastards haven't done anything.
Do something.
>>55866971
Yeah and I hope that's the case. But you know how these libkucks are. They would call muslims from germany 'germans'.
If the report comes from germany I don't trust them to call muslim redicals what they are. I wouldn't be surprised at all if german authorities labels radical islamists in their own country 'radical germans'.
If it is legit and germany is going to rise up obviously they should have the moral support of everyone here in the very least.
The authories might cry about us doing so but as long as we don't do anything illegal and it's just that we hold the opinion that german patriots have the right to defend their people then we are in the clear.
Also, let's not call these guys rebels, or radicals.
They are patriots.
>>55868542
> which country has US troops? What countries are occupied
UK, South Korea, probably more. We have like 180 military bases around the world.
>>55868817
Canada..
>>55868063
>Like Niggers calling you a cracka
until very recently we had only very very very few niggers, so no. In position of influence in the media and other places are people that all went to university studying some humanistic degree - they all got formed into line there. Anybody disagreeing with them gets publicly shamed. Because this worked for decades, the people around you are afraid. even if they agree with you, they'll join the shamers to not stand out themselfs.
You how the gay guy is screaming loudest 'faggot' to not be outed himself? Now imagine a nation of that behaviour...
>>55868817
Pretty sure we have some US bros here. Never heard a single problem with US troops.
I think one night a few US navy men got a bit drunk and had a little brawl with some locals but who hasn't done that? And that wasn't the boys in the base that was some navy guys who were just ported for a couple of weeks blowing off steam.
>>55868925
Canada is basically America's far left wing gay brother.
>>55868429
>the left is pretending they hate Israel
nigga you dumb
>>55867516
I have no doubt in that. I am a national socialist. Most people don't realise that I'm literally a nazi. I get people on board with fairly generally acceptable ideas, and then start doubling down on the good stuff like hating muslims.
Eventually I get people to the point where they agree with everything and then I tell them that national socialism is nazism.
Pretty sure I've red pilled a few people.
>>55868941
So everyone in germany is screaming faggot?
>>55868357
>how does the inevitable collapse of the EU benefit the US?
Why the collapse of EU and Germany is in your interest? see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5SjPLJOjqc
> she could have easily outed the entire plot
I believe our political system works a bit like in Putins Russia. If he doesn't have dirt on you that could destroy you, he will not let you in a position of power. Same with our polititians here. They must have something very bad over her or she wouldn't be chancelor.
You know we don't have pre-elections in Germany, where there is a public ralley to find out who the candidate for the next election is. It's all backroom deals.
>economy was stagnating and would have effortlessly crashed within 20 years under the strain of the steady influx of shitskins
there is also incompitance and cowerdice
see
>>55868542
>>55868429
Not sure I agree.
Obama tried to go rogue when he said "Israel must return to 1967 borders"
Next day BIBI turned up at congress to a unanimous standing ovation to show the world who really controls America.
Obama hasn't said a word since.
>>55868210
>action speaks louder than words
Is that why we donate 700 million to Hamas yearly? Lol
>>55868817
>>55868955
> which country has US troops?
that's not what I wrote..i wrote
>which other EU countries...
to the question
>Then why are other European countries not wanting refugees
so canada or south Korea are irrelevant. although SK might be very comparable. How independant do you think SKs policy decisions are - you have some 35k troops there right?
also, all 5eyes countries are exempt to such a question of where troups are. you are all going for the same basic policies, beeing under the same cooperate/media thumb.
France has no troops for example. why do we have to have them here? there is no logical other reason than for control. we are not even close to any of the front lines.
>>55867556
>What is ''US interests''? Can you explain this to me? I can explain it to you: US interests are the interests of the civilian population that lives in the United States.
You are so wrong. For foreign policy questions, US interests are defined as US-based multi-national corporation's interests. You seem to be under the delusion that the US is still a Republic. It is not. It is a Corporate Oligarchy.
>>55869525
Because the speaker of the House was a conservative and he invited Netanyahu to speak. Why? Because Netanyahu is a conservative. If some Liberal was in charge of Israel, the speak of the house wouldn't have invited him.
>>55869204
it doesn't need to be full blown national socialism. people are actually angered and ready to be red pilled. they just need to hear it's OK to say such things.
>>55869391
>Why the collapse of EU and Germany is in your interest? see:
Let me clarify, the long term effects of the current Merkel antics will only lead Germany and most of Europe AWAY from the US, whereas the 2011-14 status quo was an easily controllable situation for us.
Germany and Russia have become CLOSER in the past few months, and nothing Obongo has done has accomplished anything other than making Russia look BETTER to the world.
I know there's plots afoot, and I know there's also a lot of incompetence, but we don't have nearly as much focused and long-term influence as you assume, (though we have acted to undermine you Euros to be sure.)
>>55869843
>How independant do you think SKs policy decisions are - you have some 35k troops there right?
Just gonna point out, doesn't SK have like 5 million soldiers?
>>55869843
First of all, South Korea is only independent because the US stopped North Korea from taking over the peninsula.
Which side would you rather be on? The side with no electricity, or the side with basic human freedoms?
>>55862867
if youre 99.99% of the population youre still a minority if youre nonwhite. if youre 100% of the global population youre still a minority actually. for proof see asians. minority is just another word for nonwhite or less than 100% white.
>>55869237
lol, almost
>>55870006
>>55860260
>Like, are we allowed to support the German rebels without the NSA coming down on us?
Of course! Taking back our country means getting your troops home.
>>55860260
>a large portion of Germany is becoming radicalized
fuckin kek
can we get a list going of crazy oxymoronic shit liberals say?
>moderate rebels
Anzeigen sind raus. (ernst)
>>55870117
If you interfere with US policy, such as start attacking US bases, then you won't last long. Just fyi.
>>55860260
I hope the rebels gas Merkel.
>>55870315
END OCCUPATION NOW
AMI GO HOME
NEVER FORGET ALLIED WAR CRIMES
>>55866555
>most of the world supported Hitler
Source?
>>55870315
>Threatening conventional warfare on a nuclear power
Nah mate. Why do you think America won't do anything about Iran or North Korea?
>>55869391
Good point Germanbro, Ostalgie is even more dangerous than the Hitlerites ever were.
>>55870384
Well that's not going to happen so you should find something better to do.
>>55870315
If you won't stop waging war everywhere and fix your shit at home, you're guys won't be able to fuel their planes to fly home.
>>55869945
yes in the short term, the plan backfires, but in the longterm it is much easier to control a non-homogenious country. We'll have all these useless discussions on how many niggers need to be in a TV production or if Halal food should be in the school cafeteria, while important issues will be swept under the carpet.
so this doesn't only help outside powers to exert control, but also helps our own power elite to control without hinderence.
Like I said, it could all also only be attributed on incomepetence and cowardice. Take your pick.
>>55870424
Tbf, we don't do shit about the Norks because they're a failed state that's prone to collapse and have been largely abandoned by the Chinks.
the german rebels are fighting merkels sjw crap its ok to support them. they are fighting for basic human rights like not to be raped and forced to apologize for not covering your ankles and arms
>>55869000
But we still love that maple syrup guzzling lil faggot despite his obvious flaws. Because senpai.
>>55870424
Since when is a small group of German rebels a nuclear power.
>>55869989
600k active and 3mil reserve.
we also had more during the cold war.
still i believe that SK policies are not set independantly from washington.
>>55870384
Germany we are literally there because your army is in disrepair. When your nation has to send troops somewhere for something, they don't. They tell us to do it for them. I know my government would still argue for a presence even if your army was better off, but frankly as much as I hate it, a lot of euro countries have taken our presence for granted. We've told your governments to spend on defense, they tell us YES WE WILL.
Then they don't. Leaving most of your armed forces literally unarmed.
You guys really need a leader who isn't going to be afraid to spend on defense before anything else.
>>55862712
Confirmed for not understanding percentages .
>>55870644
>German rebels take control of goverment
>Government controls military
>Military controls nukes.
Well that was hard.
>>55869997
>Which side would you rather be on?
that is not the question. the question is, if your basic public world political philosophy is the freedom of speech, democracy, yatta yatta yatta, than having literally vassal states should be a big no-no.
The question is not, if the alternatives for SK are better, my question was, don't US boots on the ground mean no independance? I think yes. And the question is, why US stayed in Germany after the Russians, Bi-ish and French left? In SK there still is a threat in central Europe? hardly.
>>55870992
>implying Allies allowed us to build an army
>implying our army is allowed to do anything at all
Germany after 1945 is not a sovereign nation.
>>55870992
Oh I'm laffin.
>>55871072
So you think US boots on your soil is us taking freedoms from you? Wow. That's interesting.
>>55870992
BS. Once you leave the need for a better own military will become apparent and it'll be done. We're not under any threat atm, so it wouldn't even mean insecure transition time.
What your govt wants are strong European military armies that can be send to wars, that serve your interest. Why should we do that? If we build up a military now, you'll just force us to send them somewhere and please tell me last time that was really justified - Iraq? Afghanistan? Libya?
Your govt just wants other troops to releave their own numbers, but at the same time they'll not lift our occupation. So why should we build up our military as long as you're not gone?
>>55871107
>allowed
It's been over two decades since it fell, germany. Much of your troops doesn't not even have basic equipment.
>>55871173
Because you elected an east german that has kept your army crippled?
>>55867330
>dgw babenhausen kaserne ist weg
That's where I was stationed. If it makes you feel any better, a distant cousin of mine was murdered by a German when he was stationed there in the early Eighties. His name was Michael Spang, if that'll help you dig up any info.
I actually have a copy of the CID report. One day I'm gonna to upload it to share with /pol/. I'll tl;dr it real quick:
>my cousin is all fucked up in the local bar while his wife and kid are at home
>starts hitting on some punk rock chick
>the chick's boyfriend follows him outside and stabs him with a piece of rebar
>it took like 30 minutes for him to die and he didn't know he'd been stabbed
>he croaked in the shitter and everyone thought he just passed out
>>55871344
would you call yourself a sovereign nation if China has bases in Kentucky, California and Alabama? Of course, just benevelently there to protect you, while there is no outside threat...
I don't want to shit on americans. I'd rather be occupied by you guys than the chinese, the fact of the matter stands is that we are not a free nation:
Merkels #2 confirming that 4 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlU2HLeGNwQ
>>55871585
While I would be willing to see that pan out
>We're not under any threat atm
I don't think this is a good idea right now to have headlines reading, ALL US ARMED OCCUPANTS LEAVE GERMANY.
>>55871919
China isn't an ally of the United States.
Germany is.
>>55871919
>would you call yourself a sovereign nation if China has bases in Kentucky, California and Alabama?
wait, don't you guys actually have some in the US? I feel like I've seen it before.
>>55871821
I'm sorry to hear that ameriobro. These things unfortunately happen sometimes, even in civilized countries. Please don't believe it had anything to do with the topic we talked about - the political ramifications of tenthousands of US troops in your country.
One of the best friends of my father was randomly killed on the street, when a drunk, whoms wife left him, smashed his nose into his brain. Random shit...
>>55870992
>When your nation has to send troops somewhere for something, they don't.
What drugs are you on?
*ring* *ring*
"Hey, Barack! Angela here. I would really love to wage war in Syria, but I realized I don't have the troops. I know you have been telling me to built a real army all the time, but could you send some guys down there?"
>>55872191
We have like 20 soldiers on a airforce base in Texas
But it's not a German base
>>55872191
Nope, double checked. Just training centers with multinational army staff.
>>55872228
>What drugs are you on?
NATO.
And the world doesn't need to be on those drugs anymore.
>>55872086
>China isn't an ally of the United States.
>Germany is.
It seems the brainwashing your guys are putting on us, is also working on you.
We are paying for your bases.
We are braking international law, because we let you break it and even support it.
It's like the time we bombed some Serbians, because your Bill used to call our Gerd and told him he had two hours to decide. We are part of the crime, because we are giving you the platform.
And in the end, all you are doing is advancing the NWO.
>>55860260
I'd be all for the German rebels. Fuck the NSA
>>55872411
>NATO.
That was formed as opposition against the Sowjet Union and later especially against the Warsaw Pact. Neither of those two exist anymore. Please leave.
>>55872086
Yeah i know the comparison was bad, but any other nation I'd take would just be too small to actually be able to occupy you in any meaningful manner.
>Germany is an ally of the United States.
there is a fine line between Ally and Vassal. We share culturally so much and have similar morals, so our goals mostly allign (if my and your peoples goals would have an impact on policy).
Ally implies talking on the same eye level as we say. This is not the case at all. We don't have bases in the US (some troops for training sometimes), you get our flight lists, we don't get yours, you get our every bank transactions (SWIFT), we don't get yours, if a German soldier breaks the law in the US he is tried in the US, if a US soldier breaks the law here, he is not tried here, but in the US...and on and on and on.
So when is an Ally a Vassal? don't know...but our only influence is to say if we contribute money, troops or other resources. We cannot say, we don't support your endeavor (publicly Chancellor Schröder said he doesn't support the US in Iraq, but send a ton of spy analysts and AWACS-crews and ABC-tanks and stuff)
>>55872624
>Blames Jews for personal failings
Mate, the entirity of Germany fucking despised the shit out of Jews and they were just waiting for someone to tell them it's okay.
Lemme gib u hsrty lssn
>Germans forced to pay back war reparations after a Jew backed Great Britain and Russia won WWI
>Germans forced into absolute poverty by Central Bank just funnelled money to GB and Russia
>Central Bank was independantly controlled by...You guessed it.
>German people resort to eating wall paper with lead paint on it to feel full
>People start burning Marks because you can get more burn time out of a wheel barrow of money vs a firewood log
The Nazis aren't anything like the BLM movement.
The BLM is a vocal minority representing a vocal minority.
The Nazis were a vocal minority representing a silent majority.
>Americans constitute about one-twentieth of the world’s population, but somehow we manage to produce one-quarter of the world’s pollution and garbage while consuming one-quarter of the world’s energy. That is living large, or having a disproportional environmental “footprint.” But our economic “footprint” is just as huge. You could say America is expert at exporting sovereign debt and importing damn near everything else. How are we so able to live beyond our means? How do we consistently rack up federal deficits? We get the world to buy our Treasury bills because Uncle Sam is considered a great bet and the U.S. dollar is relatively cheap, considering it has long served as the world’s de facto reserve currency—almost as good as gold. In sum, we live large because selling our debt—both public and private—around the world has always been easy. Wall Street will say, “We deserve to live large like that. We generate more than a quarter of the world’s wealth in GDP. And the deal on T-bills is simply too good to be true. Do you know what it costs to print those little pieces of paper? Almost nothing! And do you know what we get in return? VCRs, cars, computers. Stop complaining. If the world ever caught on to what a great deal we have going here, we could be in real trouble!”
Thomas Barnett, The Pentagon's New Map
America is our greatest ally. :^)
>>55872844
That's what I just said you aspie.
If USA decides to get involved in a european civil war you better watch your back. There is no doubt that the ultracorrupt US government - the same entity that finances and arms ISIS - will side with muslim terrorists and SJW politicians against the european patriots and christians.
But know this: Germany and France arent Serbia, go ahead and try to pull off any of your interventionist shit in central Europe and see what that leads to.
>>55860260
In the US? You can legally say that you support them, but if you give them actual support or associate with them in any way or give the FBI/CIA reason to believe that you may become affiliated with them, then you are fucked and v& and raped by niggers in jail
>>55873353
Good. Bring your boys home then.
>>55873423
Israel nuking us out before anything starts to happen?
>>55873155
>The BLM is a vocal minority representing a vocal minority.
Guilted white people representing uppity nigs?
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/black-students-cornell-protest-pro-black-protest-led-white-students
>>55873423
It's sad but this post is right. The moment a serious violent movement starts that's it on the world stage. Media blame germans, and pushes "poor muslims".
On positive we'll try to blow up as much of frankfurt as possible.
>>55873477
Would that I could, but we have about as much power in deciding what our government does as you currently do.
>>55872646
> were paying for you bases
That's bullshit. Actually, Donald Trump wants to charge Germany and SK for providing you protection.
>>55874401
>That's bullshit.
No it's not
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/geheimer-krieg-deutschland-zahlt-millionen-fuer-us-militaer-1.1820318
about a billion euros in the last years. mostly for building them and maintaining them. we don't pay your soldiers. kek, that would be even better, having to pay for each occupier.
>>55874401
>>55874674
I guess we won't extend the lease then.
>>55872921
Similar morals? That sounds like the politicians trying to explain to us, why we have to support another war by the Americans. They too always go about pointing out, that we share the same values. Even though the USA is still carries out death sentences. How is that a shared moral?
What do we share culturally? All we get from them is Jewish Hollywood propaganda movies and the newest inane ideas about feminism and gender. Submarines like the TTIP are aimed at completely disintegrating our cultural safeguards and leave our own creative artists vulnerable. We are a nation, that has come to replace Beethoven with Jay-Z and Hesse with Dan Brown. We need to stop this insanity, before have lost our identity completely.
>>55865031
yes yes, your eyes are open
israeli has created a mad dog called USA
only israel can control it
lol
we are so fucked
>>55875494
you seem to have missed my brackets:
(if my and your peoples goals would have an impact on policy).
I've lived a while in the states and the ordenary white americn shares quiet a bit of same values. their mothers tell them very similar thing about what's right and wrong.
the fact, that their leadership is under the spell of big business, a certain power elite and other interst groups don't mean that the average american Joe doesn't want many of the same things we want.
There are differences for sure like capital punishment (but the support is declining and overall under 50% afaik). but compared to your average Pakistani we have vast streches of common ground.
>>55876121
There is a whole ocean between our people though, while the Russians are on the same continent. They don't like gay propaganda, they are rich with natural resources and we share a lot of friendly history together. The Russians might have been the nation we have had the longest friendly relation with and it only broke because of the Erbfeind and the Slavs. If we can unite Europe in a really robust economic union, which probably means getting rid of the Euro, we will be safely on par with Russia.
>>55876532
you'll hear no objections from me. I like the russians - I lived a bit in Irkutsk. Though allying with Russia will cause a lot of objections from other partners like the Poles.
I just don't see the american citizen as my enemy. they can be potentially as good a partner and have a lot to offer, they are just in the shackles of the sheckelman.
>>55870006
You're so retarded!
>>55860260
> no sauce
Falling for OP's faggotry again /pol/
