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>>55855661
#muslimlivesmatter
#stoptheracistoppression
#racistprisonsystem
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>>55855661
Whoa, it's almost like Muslims are the ones committing the crimes...
Oh wait, I'm sorry, that wasn't very pc of me.

#FREEOURMUSLIMS
#NOTALLMUSLIMS
#ENDWHITERACE
#BRINGBACKOURBOYS
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>>55855661

FACTS ARE RACIST
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>>55855989
They really just need to import more of these model French citizens! Maybe if they weren't such a marginalized group and instead were the majority, then they would calm down a bit.
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Doesn't matter, they're all in jail because raycis. Just raycis.
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clearly white people everywhere use systematic oppression
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>>55855661
>posting "facts" from stefan molyneux
There is never a proper source for his bs. He's literally mentally ill.
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>>55855661
why is that guy's face there?
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>>55856384
>t. refugee
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>>55856384
this, sometimes he spouts true psuedo science but this has to be fact checked regardless
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>>55856384
Posted by, Muhammad Allahabbahladulla, Age 5, Peaceful Refugee
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>>55856384
get cu-cked Abdul

>France's prison population is estimated to be 70 per cent Muslim
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11352268/What-is-going-wrong-in-Frances-prisons.html
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>>55856384
>There is never a proper source for his bs.
Actually, that's wrong. There are always sources in the comments section of his videos.

Here are the two sources he posted for the part about prison populations:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11352268/What-is-going-wrong-in-Frances-prisons.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html?sid=ST2008042802857
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>>55856384

Not hard to believe, though, considering Muslim countries constantly go to shit.
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>>55855661
Source ?

As far as I know statistics like that are forbidden in France, so source ?
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>>55856740
>>55856679
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>>55856574
He is literally batshit insane. the craziest shit comes out of his mouth. He belives there should be no government at all (complete anarchy) and everyone should have guns. He thinks all government is evil. This is the person you are taking "stats" from.
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>>55856067
CAME HERE TO POST THIS
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>>55856740
Also, if you watch the video, he goes on to present some other facts which strongly imply the actual Muslim demographic of France is much higher than otherwise believed. For example a survey found that 27% of people in France age 18-24 have a positive attitude toward ISIS. The same age range in Germany has a 3% positive view toward ISIS and in the UK, it's 4%. The implication is that only Muslims would have a positive view toward ISIS and native Europeans generally would not.
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>>55855661

What's up with his eyes?

Has that bald c-uck been crying?
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>>55856811
DUDE
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>>55855661
link to the video?
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>>55856811
Wow. Spoken like a real dyed-in-the-wool statist. Way to go, Canada.
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>>55855661
They're just oppressed and misunderstood.
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>>55857040

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjvPj7WAX7A
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>>55856679
DO You even bother to read the shit you post. "About 60 to 70 percent of all inmates in the country's prison system are Muslim" look at his image. 12 percent of France is muslim, that means 7 times higher max in his image it's fucking 21. He just makes shit up it's fucking molyneux.
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>>55857084
Nazism is truly the religion of peace.
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>>55857023
>>55857058
>Retards who think there should be no government.
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>>55857084
Maybe if white people didn't bully Muslims they wouldn't to this.

Logic guys come on. Seriously.

ITS
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>>55856439
https://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot/videos

Stefan Molyneux
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>>55857012
maybe his cancer has recurred
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>>55856774
>Estimates
>Unnamed experts

There's probably more muslims than french in french prisons, I won't deny that. But the numbers in the graph seems disproportionate, and don't add up...

I maybe a fucktard in math, but these numbers are bullshit.
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>>55856439
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>>55857128
>12 percent of France is muslim
Where do you get that number?
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>>55857218
Cool black and white fallacy.
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>>55857396
From your article.
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>>55857352
LULULULULLULU

Moleneux
fegget but h e is riht

kekeeekekek
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>>55857344
Watch the video and evaluate all the evidence presented before throwing it out.
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>>55857466
>my article
I didn't write either of those articles.
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>>55857422
I'm just showing what he believes.
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ITS ALMOST 2016

TRIPPS DUBBS FTW
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>>55857495
It's fucking molyneux's source you posted brain dead piece of shit. This damage control is unreal.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHnuIlzgGZ4
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>>55857535
Who?
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>>55857608
Somebody said that "there are never any sources."

All I did was posted the source which was presented with the video to show that not only was there a source, there were two of them. I can't be held responsible for the supposed validity of them. And before you blame me for not taking responsibility for the source, answer this, why should I?
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>>55857621
If i pretend to be retarded it will look like I was just trolling this whole time not getting BTFO instead.
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>>55857023
LMAO
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I don't understand MoldyJew. He is economically a radical libertarian but socially a hard conservative.

With no Government, who would stop the mudslimes?
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>>55856679
>There is never a proper source for his bs.
>Proper Source
>Proper
>Reading comprehension
>Back pedaling.
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And people say racism doesn't exist anymore. Disgusting.
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>>55857766
Actually answer my question. You quoted me and implied that I think there should be no government.
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>>55855661
France should really start putting muslims into camps or something
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>>55857860
>With no Government, who would stop the mudslimes?
le free market
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>>55857860

Lack of would probably be enough to scare them away. But a combination of dispue resolution organizations, discrimination by employers and vilification by the communtiy (refusing to trade, lease property too or enforce the property rights of Muslims) would keep them in their own country.
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>>55857895
When The Telegraph and The Washington Post publish articles about terror attacks in Paris or other topics, we should assume they are lying and instead demand to look at peer-reviewed journal articles? Fuck off with this goalpost shifting. They're fine sources.
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>>55856384
So are the people in this thread.
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>>55857058
>>55857023
Based on your post you Implied you agreed with the bullshit molyneux says. All I said was "He's against all government" and "He believes everyone should have guns"Two points you seem to take offense at which no rational person would. So are you a rational person because a rational person wouldn't respond that way to common sense denial of crazy ideas?
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>>55857860
the roads
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>>55858187
Are you autistic? He doesn't use the sources properly he just posts them in his video he never has proper sources for his nonsense since it's all made up. Does it compute in your tiny brain?
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>>55855661
tbf i think somethin like 40% of young adult arabs are unemployed in france
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>>55858302
>All I said was "He's against all government" and "He believes everyone should have guns"Two points you seem to take offense at which no rational person would.
The reason this is a sticking point is because it is a fabrication. In which one of his videos did he say that anarchy is the best form of government? In everything I have seen, he seems to believe libertarian government to be a good ideal, but some form of conservative government to be the most practical.
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>>55855661
Yep, it's true. The fun part is that the mudslimes act like they were innocent and say they get thrown in prison because of their race and/or religion and retarded leftists actually believe this meme.

Arabs are scum. You can get stabbed or beaten to death by 10 of them just by making eye contact.

Burn them all.
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>>55858467
Did you actually watch the video or look at all of the sources posted with it? Or are you assuming that those two sources tell the whole story?
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>>55858467
>implying any of that shit matters when you live your life via the internet

this is /pol/, stop trying to use reason and logic with these sloths.
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>>55858552
In literally nearly everyone of his videos he talks about how we need to have a state without a "government" and "how all government is bad"
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>>55858805
Right, so you have no source for that claim. Ironic.
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>>55858496
Most of them do absolutely nothing asides from smoking weed, getting drunk, stealing shit and randomly agressing people.

They deserve no job at all.
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>>55858640
You posted the sources idiot, from molyneux. The sources talk about the number of Muslims in France along with the percentage of muslims in prison. He then posts an image which is mathematically impossible. I can't believe you are this fucking stupid wow. I haven't seen something like this in a while.
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>>55858630

Hey Phillipe, correct me if im wrong but... isnt France, and more specifically Paris like... literally an African colony? i have friends living in Paris for 6-7 years and on every picture they take either at school, work or parties, the ammount of Eurpoean people i see is like less than %10, all i see is a sea of dark brown faces and black people.

That would explain why muslims have the lead on jail population.
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>>55859042
>He then posts an image which is mathematically impossible.
And since you watched his presentation and read all of the rest of his sources, you would know that, huh?

Get fucked, Ahmed. You are boring to talk to.
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>>55859069
You think that people in other cities or in the country can't get caught by the cops and sent to jail if they commit crimes?
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>>55858887
They're peaceful people.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11352268/What-is-going-wrong-in-Frances-prisons.html
>Of the 67,500 people currently behind bars in France, it is estimated that 70 per cent are Muslim – when they comprise only eight per cent of the French public. It is illegal under France’s strict laicity laws to count the number of Muslim prisoners, but experts agree that the figure is an accurate average – with some prisons, like those near Paris and Marseille, seeing an even higher percentage
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>>55858873
You have no sources for yours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDpA9gm-yNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq81qHbxzfs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcq-6NZv_ho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN9DRl6ptvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKDYx7o2LvE
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>>55859069
>Paris
Every prison in the country looks like that anon.
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>>55859139
>The sources talk about the number of Muslims in France along with the percentage of muslims in prison. He then posts an image which is mathematically impossible.
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>>55859195
no, i think that the ratio of muslim > non muslim is so high that it would explain why there's more muslims in jail, since muslims are the majority of the population.
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>>55856476
Everything has to be fact checked. Doesn't matter where it comes from.
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>>55855661
Wow look at that institutional racism
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>>55857084

>they had to wait till 2011 for brevik to kill 77 people so they could conflate the 'neo nazi' statistic

truly pathetic
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>>55859139
Muslims would need to have a crime rate 21 times higher in his image. So Muslims would be almost 100% of the prison population by that logic. Do you have a source for this?
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>>55856384
>>55858234
Kill yourselves, jews.
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>>55859505
>since muslims are the majority of the population.
They represent 7,5% of the french population. Where did you got the idea that shitskins were a majority in France?
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>>55859428
Wow, you are really dedicated to this. Maybe you should look up what a philosopher is and how they talk. Just because he is talking about the merits of some political ideology doesn't mean he agrees with it.
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>>55859662
https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/45708-youtube-the-truth-about-the-paris-terrorist-attack/
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>>55859042
>He then posts an image which is mathematically impossible
There are less muslims, thus, a greater %oo of them are incarcerated, compared to non-Muslims, even if Muslims weren't a majority in prison (which they are).

Do you even know basic statistics?
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>>55859778
More like 10% tbqh ( to be quite honest ).
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>>55859907
Shittypedia says 7,5. Even with 10% that's still just a small minority.
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>>55859880
>There are less muslims, thus, a greater %oo of them are incarcerated, compared to non-Muslims, even if Muslims weren't a majority in prison (which they are).
>
>Do you even know basic statistics?

Thank you!
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>>55857860
>He is economically a radical libertarian but socially a hard conservative.
The two systems are not mutually exclusive. You can apply radical libertarian economic policies to a country but still support socially conservative views regarding the border etc.

god dammit pol read a fucking book.
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>>55859042
>which is mathematically impossible
That image says that 0.7% of Muslims and 0.034% non-Muslims that live in France, are in prison.

Back to Syria with you, Abdullah.
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>>55859816
You have no sources for your idiocy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kPyrq6SEL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq81qHbxzfs

He talks about how he want's to completely get rid of government in every video.
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>>55857128
>12 percent of France is muslim, that means 7 times higher max

kek no it doesn't learn fucking arithmetic

for 2008

muslim percent: 12
French population: 64 million
muslims total: 7.68 million
prison population: 59,468 (http://www.prisonstudies.org/country/france)
prison population percent muslim: 70%
non muslims prisoners: 17841
muslims in prison: 41,627

(41,627/7.68 million)X100,000= 542 muslim criminals per 100,000 muslims

(17,841/56.32 million)X100,000=31 non muslim criminals per 100,000

that means for that in 2008 muslims had an offense rate at least 17.48 times higher than non muslims.

All that is for the Washington Post article. Everyone can argue about the numbers, but you are dead wrong in saying it is "7 times max" at least according to the first article.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html?sid=ST2008042802857
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Stefan is so fucking based. Seriously go watch his video on climate change and gun control and then finish off with his Paris rant.
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>>55855661
There's no way this is true..
I wish it was
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>>55860211
How is this relevant to Muslims being horrible people?
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>>55859428
thanks, very interesting
>>55856384
thank you for shitposting. I never would have cared or knew about this guy if it weren't for your post.
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>>55859872
>>55859880
This is just a thread with his idiotic shit. Non of the sources seem to support what he is saying. Muslims are 12% of the population if they had an incarceration rate 21 time higher 99.9% of Frances prisoners would be Muslim. Does anyone believe that do you have proof?
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>>55860283
That image says that 0.7% of Muslims and 0.034% non-Muslims that live in France, are in prison.

There are less Muslims than non-Muslims, but they commit crime at a rate 17.48 times higher than non-Muslims. Consequentially, they are 21 times more likely of being in prison.

Why are the numbers different, you ask? Because of time periods, the nature of prison sentences, which varies a lot, and so on, so forth. It's not muh racism.
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>>55857860
Good men with guns stop bad guys. Since you have no guns in Australia you are dependent on the state like a good ol cukold.
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>>55860453
>Muslims are 12% of the population if they had an incarceration rate 21 time higher 99.9% of

that's not how statistics works you fucking moron.
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>>55860453
Where are you getting that 99.9% figure?
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>>55860453
>Muslims are 12% of the population if they had an incarceration rate 21 time higher 99.9% of Frances prisoners
So you don't understand statistics... Sigh.
I will quote myself again, I suppose:

>There are less muslims, thus, a greater % of them are incarcerated
>That image says that 0.7% of Muslims (10% of the population) and 0.034% non-Muslims (90% of the population) that live in France, are in prison.
Thus,
>>55860480
ITT: Muslim Canadian with no understanding of how statistics work tries to apply year 1 logic in order to 'discredit' a man that disagrees with the narrative
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>>55860647
>>55860568
>What is exaggeration
They would be almost the entire prison population is what i meant. When someone says 99.9% they don't literally mean thatt exact number.
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>>55857146
Holy kek
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>>55860787
But they are 70+% of the prison population. That metric is relative to the population size of the criminal. Is it that hard to fathom?

You should go back to school, Mehmet.
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>>55860787
Just because a lot of Muslims are being jailed doesn't mean that French prisoners disappear completely.
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>>55856384
wow people like you are the cancer of society, the sources are real he even post a link to them you fucking moron
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>12 percent of France is muslim

jdimsa
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>>55860787
that's still not how statistics works

for fuck's sake.
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>>55861299
Exactly.

@Canadian shitposter: in order to lower that number, you would have to import LAW ABIDING citizens to France. That way you would reduce their incarceration rate, relative to their population size.

Do you get it now?
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>>55861412
Law abiding muslim citizens*
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>>55860728
>canakek status: BTFO

This was like the time I battled my kenyan anthropology professor on black crime stats.

>NO U ARE USING THE STATISTICS WRONG!!! DUDDE WEED, PRIVATE PRISONS ITS 2015! OUT OF MY CLASS RACIST
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>>55860173
It has to be pointed out that political stability of any kind can only exist within rigid limits. Whatever system you want, add millions of Muslims or a mob of Mexican feudalist peasants or boatloads of Africans, and now you've got their system, not yours, and there's no going back.
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>>55857146
kek'D
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>>55861299
>>55861004
>>55861025
If they are 12% of the population but have a incarceration rate 21 times the french norm of 34 per 100000 they would nearly be the entire prison population
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>>55863446
No you fucking idiot rape your mother shut posting duck yard faggot nigger jewkike mudslide fucker

Not him
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>>55855661
muslims are the niggers of france
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>>55863446
The incarceration rate is relative to their respective population sizes — add more law abiding Muslim citizens to the pool and the incarceration rate (relative to the population size of a given ethnic group) will go down because they will be put against a larger group of people that is unlike them.

It's useless though. Genetics set the ceiling as far as potential goes, and you are quite evidently not capable of understanding anything past basic statistics.

I am a third year pure mathematics student and I tutor 14~17 year olds on the side. There's only so much I can do to make you understand, and I believe I have exhausted all potential explanations.
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>>55863600
>No because i say so

If 727 vs 34 per 100 000 were the actual stats almost the entire prison population would be muslim which it's not
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>>55863446
>If they are 12% of the population but have a incarceration rate 21 times

That's not how statistics works. I already disproved you here

>>55860229
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>>55855661
WHAT YEAR IS IT
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>>55864108
Literally a single digit IQ.

If /pol/ has the lowest average IQ of all boards, it's this guy keeping us down.
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>>55864018
Even if you take population size into account the 34 vs 727 paradigm would place french Muslims well over about 85% of the prison population based on recent prison data. This is way over what is reported 60-70%
>>55864193
I meant 21 times the french norm retard 21 times 34 per 100 000
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>>55864644
>Even if you take population size into account
You HAVE to, it's literally what it's about.

>the 34 vs 727 paradigm would place french Muslims well over about 85% of the prison population based on recent prison data
So you're mix and matching estimated data from different years and wondering why it's not PERFECTLY accurate.

Okay, mr weed man.

Can you prove everything you've said and post sources (for the numbers you'll invariably need to base them on)?
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>>55864263
727/100000=0.00727*768000=55833/59468=93.88%
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>>55865329
>7680000*
result is the same just typo. Either way it's almost entire prison population.
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>>55857128
I come up with 11 to 17 times if you use 12% of the population, and 17 to 26 times if you use 8%.

Does it really matter though? Even if it was only 7 times, doesn't that still indicate a slight correlation between Islam in France and crime?
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>>55855661
That's quite the Hate Factâ„¢ you got there OP.
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>>55865484
This, and what I said about mix and matching (eg: different years) ESTIMATED DATA.

>>55865484 hit the nail on the head.

Now calculate the p-value. It's statistically significant. STRONG correlation.
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>>55856811
>babbys first encounter with ancap theory
>frightend to death
you will suck government cock for the rest of your life
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>>55865871
No data ends up with close to a 70% figure see >>55865329
>>55865454
I got 94% almost the entire population like i said. There are no different "years" or "stats" that will bring about 70% percent result based on 727.2 per 100 000
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>>55860062
>10% is only a small minority
>a fucking small minority
>10% IS ONLY A SMALL FUCKGIN MINORITY
>American nigs have been around 13% of the population and are still here after 400 hundred years still causing trouble
>a small minorty who has a much higher birtrate

You're fucking doomed tbhfam
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>>55859656
haha well spotted
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>>55858647
>t. redditor
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>>55858097
well we all know how singapore and hong kong are just BURSTING at the seams with muslims
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>>55857218
>>55857535
Canadakek strikes again

You dumb fucking retards please kill yourself.
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>>55868317
>>55859428
>>55860211
Those convict genes might explain the iq
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>>55868760
So what does any of this have to do with muslim migrants being a poison to civilization?
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>>55868940
This thread was about the molyneux's stats in OP's image not Muslim migrants being poison like you imply, learn to read. I claimed the stat was wrong and molyneux was insane. Sorry you can't read being from a prison colony
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>>55869249
Oh, thats alright, mr syrup sucker san, we all have a hard time accepting the flow of migrants, but I'm sure you have your doors open with arms even more open and tolerant.

The stats were privately collected because one of the few countrys keked more than Canadia, France, makes it literally illegal to collect this kind of information.

What does molyneux being "insane" have to do in regards to speaking plain facts over a power point?

pardon me while I get some convict coffee as my days not barely begun yet.
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>>55869557
The image in OP makes no fucking sense. The thread is simply an image with molyneux and a bullshit graphic. stefan is just insane which i made clear here >>55868760 to you. His "facts" are bs like always. By the way the migrant crisis has fuck all to do with this thread most of the criminals in french prisons aren't recent migrants.
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>>55869824
I see sources all over. Even in the links on the video. Ahmed pls. Just because you don't like them, doesn't make them bs
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>>55869824
Mate, just fuck off if all you got is a flawed understanding of statistics and personal attacks. I don't think anyone cares how crazy you think stefan is.

You are incapable of disputing his statistics, even if they are wrong.
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>>55869824
Why don't you watch the video instead of sperging at a screenshot of it like a normal human being who craves to understand the context?
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>>55870137
>>55870145
Just read thread inbreds
>>55865329
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>>55870226
The context is it's made up and wrong. The thread is just the image which I'm replying to.
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>>55870386
Hey Ahmed, sorry you never learned to play hockey
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>>55870492
>playing sports
>on 4chan
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>>55870273
That would only be valid if prison population corresponded to incarceration rates, which would imply long term stability in incarceration rates.

How long term depends on the kind of prison sentences France has.
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>>55870649
Most of Stefan's data is recent. The final number I used to divide are the number of prisoners and his incarceration rate data seems to be recent either way these figures don't change much year to year. In other words my calculation is pretty accurate.
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>>55871051
You have no idea what is being said to you, or you're pretending to have no idea. Pick whichever.
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>>55871261
>You are pretending not to understand yourself
I used Frances recent prisoner population data and Stefan's fake incarceration rates in my calculation to prove them wrong. France's prison population doesn't change much and this is less relevant with how recent the data is. If many people were leaving prison like you imply and the sentences were very short then we would see plenty of change in french prison population and we don't, either way all data is very recent making this less relevant.
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>>55860728

Portugal bringing the fucking heat.
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>>55872748
>As long as it supports your world view it's "bringing the heat" I rekt the shitskin.>>55865329
>>55866241
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>>55873031

>shitskin doesn't know how statistics work
>12% of a total population can still make up 70% of the prison population.
>the same applies to black males who make up 6.5% of total population but commit over 50% of total crime

go back to facebook & stay there faggot
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>>55873240
>12% of a total population can still make up 70% of the prison population.
Nobody is denying this
You simply didn't understand my posts because you're too stupid. I showed how op's incarceration rate image doesn't match France's prison population, It's impossible. It's a wrong image the shitskin was arguing it was right which only an idiot would do. I'm white.
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>>55866241
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>>55864193
>normalizing data
>thats not how statistics works

jesus christ man, stop talking nothing but shit comes out.
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>>55855661
source? I need to beat some sense into libtards but a fox news pic won't do
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ITT: The Base Rate Fallacy
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Omg stop this racism, it's 2015 ffs, stupid bigots
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That canadian guy is either a dedicated troll or your average sand nigger, holy shit
try using the logic of this image applied to France and , quite similar desu senpai
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>>55875322
You are denying reality use logic spic.>>55873506
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