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Germans are getting arrested for "hate speech" regarding Muslim immigration.

Your country is over, time to move on.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/12/berlin-police-raid-10-sites-in-german-capital-in-crackdown-on-online-anti/
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>>55851266
what kind of piece of shit police are arresting their own country men for this shit?
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Holy shit you can't even voice your opinion online.

This is ridiculous.
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>>55851266
I've argued with Germans about how their idea of freedom of speech is fucking stupid, but of course most of them are arrogant snobs so they think they're right.

Nothing says freedom like being arrested for hate speech, their government can classify hate speech as whatever they please and arrest you, who is to say what they do with that in the near future?
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ARRESTED FOR SPEECH! ARRESTED FOR SPEECH! ARRESTED FOR SPEAKING AGAINST THE DESTRUCTION OF YOUR COUNTRY! GERMANY, YOU TRULY ARE LOST!
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>2015
More like 1984
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It's just insane what's going on over there. It doesn't even seem real.
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And people say West is free...
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>>55851824

Britain literally has a law against "hate speech"

>>55851266

Who here NERVOUS for all German bros who post on here?
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>>55851376
Literally the same country that genocided their country men.

Are you retarded
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The German people are slaves.

They should respect their masters or suffer the consequences.
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German revolution when?
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>>55851266
Violent rebellion when??
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Meanwhile I'm sitting here in Austria, being comfy and laughing at the deutsch keks
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Any Germans to confirm this story?
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>>55851713
Well they can't actually agree with you or else they will go to jail.
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>>55851266
So all I have to do is make a fake facebook and twitter page of a German person I don't like and spam hate speech everywhere to get them arrested?
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>>55851266
>TFW germans are too scared of crackdown to post in this thread.
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This can happen in any western country that isn't the US right now.
We just had a guy convicted for anti-semitism for criticising practices in the Jewish faith this last week.
Hate-speech laws are just code names for censorship that don't coincide with the prevailing (and here enshrined) multicultural ideologies and narratives.
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I thought Europe had a democratic government.
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Where are all the germans ITT?
Feels like the good people have lost and it's all downhill.
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>>5852420

And the assholes on our campus want free speech limited.

The BLM/Mizzou/Yale assholes want hate speech laws.
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>>55851266

Don't run, fight back. Eventually you WILL run out of countries to move to.
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I didn't even hear or read anything about this in the news.
How screwed am I?
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>>55852367
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/24/germany_banned_its_ugly_historic_symbols_should_we_do_that_too.html

Germans are not even allowed to know certain parts of their own history. That's considerably funny.
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>>55851989
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>>55851824
Your heart is in the right place, but you are the last country to be talking about free speech Bongland.
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>>55852609
The Stasi are already on the way to black bag you.
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>>55851266
Well, to be fair Germans are an occupied country.
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>>55852281
Yeah, there are german news articles on the topic from 12th Nov
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>>55851266
I think that should be motivation to stop this peaceful protesting and start protesting for real. Never in history in all of humanity you had politicians change laws based on peaceful protests, not to mention a political party stepping down from ruling position. They should arrest CDU, all of them, not just because of Germany, but also because of other countries in EU, they are irresponsible and break all kinds of international and EU laws by importing those immigrants.
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>>55852609
How multilingual are Germans on average? Do they consult the American media at all? Sometimes the foreign press is the only way to know what's happening inside your own country.
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>>55852936
IIRC, 56% speak English
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>>55851376
You are seeing a crazy woman running on emotion not admitting she fucked up.
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>>55851266
>>55852609
>>55852759
>yfw Merklers aswer to paris attack is more solidarity and altruism
>yfw she'll creates 250 new secret service jobs
>yfw 150 of them to combat "far-right movements"
Bundestag on fire when?
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>>55853012
We need a bunch of German-speaking foreigners established a news website targeted at German readers. It should be hosted somewhere untouchable like California.
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>>55852574
>The BLM/Mizzou/Yale assholes want hate speech laws.
until the day comes when their speech is considered hate.. but they are too dumb to think that far ahead.
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You are lost, Germany.

Germany theme song:
https://youtu.be/zkXbzffVl44
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Poor Germany
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Keep in mind that Suisse and Austria are more or less unkeked. We are the last hope for ethnic germans
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This only means that the fire rises.
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Having much German blood flow through my veins, I am deeply ashamed.

Fuck you Germany.
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Just saying, but weren't a good chunk of influential pre-revolution political texts written by people sitting in prison? Giving people who are already willing to speak up so much free time doesn't sound like a wise idea to me. Of course, what German politicians do really isn't my business.
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>>55851266

What kind of law is the 'hate speech' charges based on? Are you just fined or jailed (which must mean you go to court first right, i don't know how the German judiciary works). If your getting arrested then their is the possibility of jail, so what I'm interested in knowing is....

What has happened when these charges are brought to court? CAN they be brought to court? Is there a defence applicable to the 'hate speech' law (one which the court has to consider)?

In Australia and other commonwealth countries their is a great resource that compiles most Court transcripts - www.austlii.edu.au/

Is there a German equivalent, which would let you read the reasons for the courts ruling.


It would be interesting to see how a prosecutor or magistrate or whatever arrives at a decision which undermines the whole right to a fucking opinion in Germany.
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People like that usually have written shit like "gas the refugees" or so on facebook using their private accounts though.
They are legit retards.
No matter what, one should know that posting such shit might have consequences.
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>>55853017

>Bundestag on fire when?

Rip krautbro. There will be knocking at your door soon. ;__;7
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>>55853448

Interesting angle on the situation.
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>>55851376
The same fucking police who wants tp take your guns away
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>>55853473

Maybe over there in beta kek "we so sowwy for WWII" Germany, but we have way more rights than you regarding speech in America.

Gas the refugees.
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Countries without free speech can't call themslves first world baka desu senpai
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I dont know much about Germany , but by the looks of it, it's all over
One of two things will happen
1. As no one is allowed to do anything aginst muslims ,Germany over the next year or so is fucked , or,less likley...
2. People revolt, take over, and all muslims are removed from Germany ,
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>>55853692

Options 1 and 2 are not mutually exclusive anon. Ackshually, I think the only way option 2 will happen at this point is if option 1 comes to pass, (and it will.)
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>>55853473
So you're saying GAS THE REFUGEES, RACE WAR NOW is grounds for being arrested in Germany?
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>>55853323
That fucking webm
What kind of subhuman filth doesn't allow their people to fly their own flag and be proud of their own country
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K U C K S
U
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Im pretty sure all countries have some kind of law against hate speech in public, but they dont usually apply them
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>>55853692
>>55853792
There will be a full blown civil war between the left and right with the way this is going, and the losers on each side will be fleeing to the countries where their ideology won.

The west is going to completely divide and reform within the next decade, most likely.
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>>55852715

and the USA is the last place to talk about freedom
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>>55851989
>Jews
>German
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>>55852759
Hahahaha that fucking picture

every goddam time
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>>55853647
We definitely don't. But at least we have free health care.
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>>55854284
>free
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>>55853323
I guess only the cowards of Germany survived WWII.
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>>55854284
>free

I guess you don't have a company or a job
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>>55853463
You get v&
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/breaking-86-year-old-woman-raided-and-ransacked-for-saying-holocaust-is-the-biggest-and-most-persistent-lie-in-history-on-german-tv-who-are-the-real-nazis-3166460.html

Then jailed
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4613415.ece
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>>55853915
Unfortunately, yes.
Just wait for the elections in 2017 if we will make it till then.
Literally 90% of the people here are against our current EU politics and especially against our refugee politics.
The right wing parties will get an insane boost.
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>>55854284
Your taxes pay for your healthcare, retard. It's not free.
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>>55854428
Compared to what you pay for your hospital bills one could say it is for free.
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>>55854284
>free
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>>55853209
>already fucking up the place
>just throw that shit anywhere, thanks. yeah, right on the ground is fine. fuck it
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>>55851266
All Merkel is doing is building up more and more hatred and ire in the bottle of the majority of German citizens. I hope this keeps up, because eventually, the bottle WILL explode, and all hell will break loose.
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>>55853323
Holy fucking shit. I got sick after this webm. I laughed everything off till now, thinking it was just a farce.

I even just finished broforce and loved the ironic american nationalism and america is even really like that shoving their flag everyones asses and being proud no matter what kind of shithole they live in.

Germany is fucking dead.
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>>55854354
The cowards, the simple-minded, the crippled, and the offspring of the millions of German women raped by the Russians.
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>>55852936
is like the media in chile all over again
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>>55851266
And guess what? French Mosques are being shut down for speech. Poor Muslims, err, Germans
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>>55851266
This is the type of shit that should lead directly to a fucking revolution. Unless you are directly (and I do mean DIRECTLY) attempting to incite violence via your speech, it should be protected.

At least we still (mostly) have the first amendment in America. Europe is doomed.
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>>55851266
Germany is over. Either rise up and disobey the law or find a different country.
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Too many treasonous marxists hiding around

and then you hear them babble about "national security" or "our children and grandchildren!"
what a charade
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>>55851266

Goddamn, Nazi Germany sure came back.
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>>55854827
If we got people to realize that hitler was right and that they should reconsider national socialism because of that fact then we had a chance of a revolution into the right path.
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>>55851927
>Who here NERVOUS for all German bros who post on here?

Me
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>>55854908
Isn't Chile a considerably more right-wing country than Germany though?
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There will be riots
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>>55854284
Not free, bro. Just covered by tax we all have to pay... except the poor for those healthcare is free, but only to a certain degree...
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>>55851266
>Germans are getting arrested for "hate speech" regarding Muslim immigration.

The irony here is that this sounds like something that would happen in a Muslim country.
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>>55851266
RIP Hitler, you were a good man.
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>>55852367

UNDERRATED POST.

My god, this is a good idea. This type of shit should be done in a spamlike fashion so that there are countless false arrests in Germany, and they'll eventually have to give up policing it at all because the burden will be too high. Of course, we'd need an awful lot of people doing it for it to make a dent.

You could even copy existing German profiles on Facebook to get the names and pictures of random people. I'm sure there are probably other public records you could find, too.
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>>55852281
No anon. All the germanbros got arrested for being on /pol/
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>>55854476
I found one about Maria Frank from 2013

Germans are charged under the criminal code section 130 for hate speech or... Strafgesetzbuch (StGB) § 130 Volksverhetzung. There is also a translation of the German criminal code on the internet someplace as well.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/177594/74-year-old-german-woman-convicted-hate-speech-andrew-harrod
>The Munich court, for its part, conceded that Frank could legitimately reference 1683’s historic events but considered the extrapolation therefrom of a present threat to be unacceptable. Countering Frank’s anxieties, Stürzenberger reported that the judge spoke of positive experiences with the many people of Turkish background in the neighborhood in which he grew up. As the SZ reported, the judge admitted that drawing distinctions between permissible and impermissible speech involved a “very fine line.”

>The court thus left Frank with a vague warning that she “must sensitize herself to what is acceptable and what not.” As the SZ reported, this was significant given Frank’s “expressions of rejection towards Turks and Muslims on the internet” that are “numerous and at times clearly more drastically pointed than on the poster.” Frank’s website Bündnis Deutschlands Zukunft, for example, refers to restricting the immigration of, or even deporting, “Muslims ripping us off.” The SZ further reported that the “other so-called Islam critics around the Party ‘Die Freiheit’ will probably attentively hear” the court’s warning, a point not lost by Stürzenberger in his reporting. Frank’s case thus shows that future debates about Islam in Europe will often have to brave such paradigmatic legal “chilling effects.”


>The court thus left Frank with a vague warning that she “must sensitize herself to what is acceptable and what not.”

Fuck the Judges are in the pocket of the Government, the judiciary has been run down with bleeding heart liberals.
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>>55852420
Canada too!?!? Holy bongs this is tragic! Trudeu you were meant to save us!!!
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>>55854284
I'm sure that'll be real useful for putting yourselves back together after getting snackbar'd.
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>>55854284
You're alive!
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>>55854067

Not even memeing when I say that it's basically unavoidable at this point. I'm not even saying that out of wishful thinking. I have a gf and just got a cozy job, I don't want a racewar, I don't want collapse and massive carnage, but I cannot see any other possible outcome right now.

Bankers were killing themselves over the possibility of Greece collapsing, now we have Germany, Finland, and Sweden already on a nosedive. Shit's fucked breh.

>mfw it's up to the millennials to save the white race
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Germans need to riot over this.
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>>55855463
Holocaust! Holocaust! Holocaust!
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http://nypost.com/2015/11/15/two-syrian-refugees-among-seven-terrorists-in-paris-attacks/

looks like reality not hate speech
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>>55852281
How are we supposed to confirm this?
We also can't do any more than read newspapers and decide to whether believe them or not.
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>>55854493
the leftists simply need to allow the refugees to vote. it would be racist not to, germany is their country now too.
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>>55855525
Reality is hate speech
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>>55851916
I know what you mean
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>>55853441
>mostly german and french blood
>shit parents
So ashamed.
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I really hate to say it but there needs to be another attack
A major one , innocents will die, it's a horrible thing, but if that happens it will push everyone over the edge and liberals will be ignored in favor of mass deportations and gassing the middle east
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https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/3syw5q/berlin_police_raid_10_sites_in_german_capital_in/

Lets redpill reddit germans
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>>55855866
Glassing*
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Sounds like France bombed the wrong country.
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>>55851376
It's treasonous to go against your own people that are peacefully protesting, to defend foreign invaders.
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>>55855880
and try not to show your power level to hard
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>>55854180

Sending Germans to fight an unwinnable war is probably the same thing.
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>4th Reich when?
I would go help my German bros regain their country if they ever fight.
>tfw they will never fight because racism
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>>55851266
Shouldn't they use these resources actual anti-terrorist operations?
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>>55851266
Germany sounds like such an awful place to live. It's interesting that such a country exists in Europe of all places.

No one should be obligated to destroy their own culture because of crimes committed a long time ago.
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Any Germans now afraid to say something wrong and get arrested? I noticed a drop in German hotheads lately, it's like they gave up or maybe they all arrested.
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>>55855525
>>55855627
Reported for hate speech
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>>55851266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqQd5IvrcsY
modern germans are a disgrace
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>>55851266
Every time I see something like this I'm so glad I live in the US. The constitution is the greatest thing this country has ever produced.
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Who cares. Germans aren't even white.
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>>55855539
They haven't cut off the internet yet have they?

If the German media won't tell you what's going on come to /pol.
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>>55853323
wow that is absolutely disgusting.
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>>55851266
Germany pls wait TPP is in 3 months you are too fast guys!!
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>>55856152
Not on 4chan. Who would I even need to convince? Everyone here hates immigrants and sandniggers anyway.
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>>55851266
This is good.
The granny being arrested for denying the 6 gorillion is bad.
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rate my country's hate speech laws, family
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Goddam Germany you giant c.u.c.k.s
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I guess the lion is out of the picture then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Yszp3SmxE
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https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/3so8w5/is_it_legalsocially_acceptable_for_a_man_to_park/

Germany is keked to the extreme.
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>>55853017
It'd be really terrible if someone were to firebomb the houses of German politicians.

Wouldn't want that sort of thing to happen at all...
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>>55856794

No freedom/10
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>>55854493
pls get hitler 2.0
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>>55855341
There is always some law when they need to arrest citizen, but they just can't find any law that speaks against importing of immigrants. Those arrests are nothing more than scared politicians who want to prevent people joining online to protest. They want to control every protest through the likes of PEGIDA. Depends what kind of people they arresting, if they arrest Jews, then it's ok, since Jews only want to pull Germany more into the abyss and make this into a Muslim problem. Germany needs to stop important all immigrants, everybody in EU should stop this. There is no need at all to make immigration into a religious or political movement, it should be purely anti-immigration.
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>>55856794
Fucking disgusting.
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>>55856794
Khuck grade.
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>>55856648
Ha the only German ITT
Its 1984 CMON PEOPLE
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>>55853479
>>Bundestag on fire when?
This. Do it, Krauts.
Take your country and your government back.
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>>55855373
>Trudeu you were meant to save us!!!
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>>55851266
#boycottgermangoods until they are released, not even a twitterkek
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>>55853323
holy shit

how did the germans elect a person who hates her own people as their leader

fucking wow
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>>55856648
It's not about hate, Merkel wants to prevent masses from joining and doing something about it. If you just hate as a single individual, you are no threat to them, but if you make a dedicated site and write articles against it and make people join your cause then you are a threat.
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>>55854172
How fucking dare you.
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>>55856070
That's exactly what they are doing. Nobody gets arrested for merely speaking his mind against the migrants or for the odd racist comment on some social media sites. Those people usually get arrested for encouraging others to break the law (like burn down shelters) or stupid shit like death threats. It's an operation to counteract far-right terrorism, duh.
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>>55854172
what did >>55852715 Just fucking say to you?
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>>55852759
Is that fucking Oneyng on the left?
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>>55857090
I have been wondering this too.
I mean America managed to do it as well but that's because Obama was black and it's easy to get a bunch of idiots to vote for a nigger.
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>>55857190
>It's an operation to counteract far-right terrorism
The issue is people who love their country too much, duh.

The people who hate it are ok though.
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>>55854574
lmao $1000 dollar deductible and after that its completely covered, in exchange for lower taxes and higher wage. Yeah you got me beat there kraut
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>>55851266
>arrested for voicing an opinion
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>>55853323
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>>55856152
>I noticed a drop in German hotheads lately
I guess someone got them outta here
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>>55856366
Like how the video was blocked in Germany.

Stasi are probably on the way to teach me about cultural enrichment.
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>>55851266
and would you look at that. there is a rebellion forming and the tv/radio show nothing about it. so much for fair and balanced. fucking jew media.
it is clear that those of us that are fed up with this shit need to connect to each other in other ways. we need to use the internet to mobilize our rebellion against the leftist filth infesting our world, oh wait never nsa is watching the internet to. Welp....i dont know niggers time to just grab that victory gin and drink till we die.
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>>55857190
All Germans should murder and kill anyone of Muslim faith or north african or middle eastern ethnicity.
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>>55853323
I don't see the problem with that.
She is a dignified woman and, let's be honest, waving flags like a child is not really an elegant thing to do.
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>>55857367

And Eurokeks will STILL try to claim superiority over the United States
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>>55851266
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>>55857479
Imagine a webm of Obama throwing away a small American flag.
Does it add up?
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>>55857090
They're white guilted harder than anyone else for WW2
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>>55852490
Not anymore Mexico....
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>>55857468

>mfw that tomoko spammer gets murdered
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Angela was raised under the STASI

Is it really a surprise that her government ends up looking like this?
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>>55857391
kek, Todd looks so immensely uninterested.
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>>55854284
>free

Nothing is free.
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Assassinate Merkel. Reestablish a strong GERMAN government. Push out the muslim subhuman filth.

NUKE MECCA. Kill all muslims. Eliminate the problem once and for all.
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>>55851266
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ursula-haverbeck-verdict-holocaust-denial-nazi-grandma-gets-10-months-prison-1528577
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Ban all religions.
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>>55851266

Think they would remember how shit communism was and the Stazi regime... No sympathy for Germans, they allow this to happen. The tragidy is that it shits up the rest of the EU.

Destroy the EU now Eurobros... before this happens to you too.
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>>55857852
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>>55851407

Neither can you Canadabro.

Google: Canadian Human rights Tribunal

People are fined and jailed without due course of justice or appeal in Canada for holding non-PC values.
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>>55851927
im getting nervous too
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>>55855389
Nice one hat, I'm glad you're my neighbor.
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>>55851824

People are arrested every week in the UK for posting silly mildly racist comments on Twitter
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This is when violent revolution is literally the only option. When you're jailed for protesting and speaking out against the status-quo, there is absolutely nothing to come of peaceful persuasion. There's a reason why free speech was the very first thing on the list for the Bill of Rights.

Germanbros, it's time to start gathering with those that are likeminded and begin planning.
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I want off this ride famm
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Come on guys! It's nineteen eighty fucking four!
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>>55852490
As much as you have one...
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>>55858143
Any time senpai
Please God someone save us our PM is an idiot who doesn't know what he's doing DUDE WEED LMAO FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
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george orwell was a prophet
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>>55858191
This. Take it from a nation founded by rebelling against the most powerful Empire of the time.

Talk has run its course. Only gunfire and bloodshed will get the message through now.

Time has run out on a peaceful resolution or the triumph of logic over 'muh feewingz'.

Act now before your children no longer have a Germany to grow up in.
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Ger"man"y
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>>55858476
Neil Postman was a prophet.
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>>55854493
Merkel won't see 2017 as the chancellor. I will be surprised if she even stays longer than Q1 2016.
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if germany's problem is a declining birth rate why dont the import some of us mexican bros

we fuck like crazy and are even willing to do the jobs you dont want to do while you keep your intelligent people doing intelligent jobs, shit cabron we even do it for less than minimum wage too.

why are you pendejos asking those muslim vatos for help when we have the solution to all your problems
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>>55858724
>implying any of the other keks in government will do anything about this shit

face it, the liberal have one. stupidity has won and there is nothing you can do about it.
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Germany really shows the rest of the world what far left and far right is about.
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>>55853323
I need context, this webm always pisses me off and I'm not even German
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>>55858724
Merkel is just used to get bad shit over witb, new guy stops biggest bs but wont undo things that fucks you in the ass
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>>55858768
Its not, its more about issue not being able to afford it without gibsmedats
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>>55858603
>>55858191
Nope this plays right into their cards. The only revolution that will hurt them is an economic one.
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it's a measure to kill the nazi ideology, that is kinda outdated or even playing in the hands of the new right parties

you guys just wanna see it happen
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>>55855296
>awful lot of people
lol just write a bot and leave it running at some public library or something
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>>55851376
This. In all of this, this.
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>>55853323
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>>55858135
Bleib bitte sicher, Deutschbro. Ich fürchte um dich. Ich wünschte, ich könnte dir eigentlich helfen.

Don't disclose anything here, but I seriously hope you're using a proxy or something.
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>>55858191
>>55858603

These gentlemen have the right of it. If your freedom of speech is destroyed, you are a slave. And no one listens to a slave without the threat of force. There's a reason why the first amendment is taken so seriously in my country.

>>55859150
Does it really? They're now using undisguised, naked force to eliminate freedoms. It makes perfect sense to use force to protect those freedoms.
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>>55852247
soon down there will be the same, i fear.
but rope the my father country dont became the shitrole that is now Germany
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>>55852635
we are allowed to know them, just not to display them in public
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>>55851989
Russia, China most of the middle east?
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>>55852420
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>>55859284
What force, they can't even own guns, how can they possibly fight their own government

>le 2nd amendment pipe dream.
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>>55855615
>implying this isn't the long term plan
Shit, we've seen it in America. Forced multiculturalism, amnesty, etc has everything to do with forcefully importing free leftist votes.
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>>55857818
>go to Mecca
>gas the square around the Kebab
>fast rope in with chemical suits
>extract the Orb of Power
>take it back to North Carolina or wherever SOCOM is
>play a friendly football match with your bros
>team 1 wins, blast the Orb into space with NASA cargo
>team 2 wins, drop it somewhere in the deep ocean
>drink a cold one as the fire rises
What would the Bugs even do?
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>>55858304
You only get killed in Mexico for trying to fuck with the cartels. Those 43 commies only died because of this, not because of their marxists beliefs.

Seems like they have more freedom there than the Caliphate of the Deutschland.
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>>55859158
Would have to be a very clever bot with an understanding of NLP if we wanted it to work long term (if we just reused stock spam phrases like GAS THE MIGRANTS or whatever would eventually just be set into a spam filter and the whole thing would be ruined.)

You are probably right though that a set of scripts would be very effective, at least for awhile.

Every little bit helps to weigh down their corrupt system.
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>>55851266
I don't know about the rest of the world, but, I can't imagine being arrested for something I said.
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>>55859284
>>55858603
>>55858191
This is my inclination as well. I'm sorry, Germany, but from the outside looking in, you are now in an open police state. Your current rulers do not have, and will continue not to have, any intention of letting up on you.

If I were a person of faith, I'd pray for you. Things are taking a dark turn.
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>>55858822
She dropped from 41,5% and being one of the most popular chancellors in the last 30 years to ~33% and being regarded worse than Schröder in a mere year. And all because of refugees. Her party is alreay in desperate search of a replacement and the first thing that replacement will do is close the boarders to distance himself as far as possible from Merkel and her stance of there is no limit to refugees to seem like the hero that listens to his people. They will also reduce benefits to a minimum to get rid of some economic migrants. Then there will be attacks in Germany too since we stop being useful. The 100k free sim cards meant as a method for surveillance and 500 new employees for fighting terrorism won't stop that. After attacks the right will become even stronger.
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>>55851266
oh my god the feelings police are real
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>>55859284
>Does it really?
Of course. Any physical attacks will be used in the media to show what monsters people that disagree with the goverment are.
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>55859158
Well, in America we've seen the savage power of dindus through the BLM riots, and most of them aren't even armed. You don't need second amendment rights (or even much intelligence) to put together nigger-rigged bullshit like a molotov cocktail. Bear in mind that wasn't even a real grassroots movement - imagine what it would have been like if it was real rather than Soros-funded fakery.

Believe me when I say that if you piss your citizenry off enough, they don't need guns to fuck up the country. Besides: if German citizens really want guns, I'm sure they can get ahold of them.
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>>55851376

The type that should be put to death immediately, without compassion, empathy or mercy

The more brutal the better, even if you don't like it, examples need to be set.
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>>55852490
>I thought Europe had a democratic government.
That's half the problem.
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>>55859962
The PLUR Police are indeed real.
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>>55859975
>>55859478

Meant to reply to this. Whoops.
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>>55859965
>the media
Dude, the media is not going to be on the side of freedom sanity no matter what anyone does. Don't be a concern troll - if your freedoms are being curtailed to the extent of what's happening in Germany, the last thing that matters is your fucking public image. The time for talk is OVER at that point, as it's now illegal to voice the wrong opinions about it. Let naked force decide.
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>>55853323
Daily reminder Angela Kaźmierczak is a Polish agent and all of this is a secret plan to finally destroy Poland's eternal enemy, Germany.
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>>55859975
Germans lost their guts when the wrong side won WWII.

What's funny is the Jews won WWII then the political correctness they installed protects their worst enemies! I hope every Israeii gets slaughtered by Muslims in return.
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>>55851266
>>55852635
>>55854476
>>55857852
holy shit, we 1984 now
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The eventual backlash from this will make the holocaust look tame. I can seriously see a total genocide of Muslims in Europe if this keeps up.
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>>55860347
>Muslim facilitator
>in this thread
YOU are the enemy within.
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>>55860347
>What's funny is the Jews won WWII then the political correctness they installed protects their worst enemies!
Well of course it does, how are they going to convince the world that they're persecuted and deserve special treatment if nobody is persecuting them?
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>>55854493
New Hitler when?
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>>55860222
Oh Murica to be as simple minded as you must be bliss. Why didn't you go to hunt down every member of the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Loebs and Goldmans yet? They are fucking over the whole world, time for talk is over you have to act! Thank god you can get all those guns and actually do something, go my Amerifriend, go.
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>>55851266

petition to replace

>sweden
>yes

to

>germany
>yes
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>>55854869
>america is even really like that shoving their flag everyones asses and being proud no matter what kind of shithole they live in.
Texas is even better lel.
FUCK I love this state.
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>>55860715
>sweden
>ikea literally out of beds

SWEDEN YES
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Europeans are the stupidest fucking idiots on this planet. They are literally human cattle. ARM YOURSELVES for fucks sake. FREE MEN are ARMED.
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>>55854172
We have guns, knives, actual freedom of speech, a right to defend ourselves, and no tv licenses. What freedoms do you have that we do not?
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What the fuck are you doing Germany?

It almost seems like only a Nuke destroying all of Berlin, to reset you, can save you now.
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>>55860440
Man, I just want to see white countries again. It blows my fucking mind that no one sees the blatant hypocrisy in the fact that it's (apparently) okay for a country to have a homogeneous ethnic makeup as long as that makeup isn't comprised of white people.

>>55860656
Dude, I'm just talking about defending obvious personal freedoms here. Economic slavery is an entirely different ballgame and I'm not suggesting somebody goes and guns down the fucking Rothchilds despite the fact that, yes, they do effectively own us economically. Please stop moving the goalposts, you're sounding a lot like a fucking liberal.

Again: this is about important civil liberties like freedom of speech, not some old families that have a lot of money. Don't move the goalposts.
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>>55859831
I want to believe
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>>55856648

Dude lets get a meme started and spread it to plebbit.

CMON ITS 1984!
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>>55853137
Makes no difference m80. I ran a small site four years ago criticising the UK immigration / asylum policy and I got a 7am visit from the police. Got lucky because they wanted to take my laptop away but I'd left it at work. They "investigated" for eight months but without the physical computer they couldn't confirm beyond all reasonable doubt that it was me posting things.

They were trying to charge me with"Racially aggrivated breach of the peace" All in all a huge waste of police time & taxpayer money.
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>>55860885
We dont have a beautiful queen
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>>55861159
What the actual fuck
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>>55861159
Euro-peon "freedom of speech".
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What can one individual man do who is willing to do everything to save his country?

I have about 900€ left every month after the bills.
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>>55851266
WTF Germany! Even us down here in this 3rd world shithole could throw down a corrupt goverment and we did it peacefully, but that woldn't help even you right now.

This nonsense has to stop! kill.that.fucker.
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>>55856898
Right? It would be terrible if someone were to send such a clear and unmistakable message. Hope that doesn't go down.
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>>55861159
We need to instigate as much of this as possible. Speech that ostensibly seems to be coming from a country that has these sorts of laws, but isn't - so that an economic burden is put on the police forces of those countries in fruitless investigations.

Hit them in the pocketbooks. It's the only way.

Convenient side effect is that the more time you make them waste, the less time they'll have to catch actual people speaking their mind.
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>>55857090

The jew led kekold Canadians/Americans killed off and starved all the non-coward Germans

Now they celebrate in destroying their own countries, whilst patting themselves on the back for "winning" against the Nazis

Our people did this to them, and we won't escape the punishment.
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>>55855539
Reported to German authorities
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>>55861159
In the very home of the Inquisition and Reconquista, no less. Fuck.
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>>55861282
if you really mean everything, get the muslims pissed off enough to go out and bomb the capitol building, then rally support for a muslim genocide.
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>>55860884
You do not understand.
We are lawabiding and obedient.
Yes, when the government is hijacked by traitors it gives us the present mess.
But we all saw what it results in in time of war.

And war is approaching.
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>>55861282
Smuggle weapons from Ukraine to Germany and distribute them amongst those who sympathize with your anti-immigration views.
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>>55861159
But was your site hosted in the United States? Did you choose a host with a good reputation for not giving away your info frivolously to foreign spooks?
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>>55861068
Only logical consequence of what is going on. 2 of the terrorists being Syran refugees won't help the CDU/CSU and maybe even push them below the magical 30% which means bye bye Merkel.
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>>55853323
Jesus fuck, I forgot about this webm. A century ago they would have strung her up as a traitor to their country. Even fucking Obongo would get shit on by everybody if he did something like that.
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>>55854055

Ahem...
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>>55860885
I always lmao when I see Americans talking about freedom
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>>55861511
Worst thing anybody could do you idiot.
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>>55859965
>Any physical attacks will be used in the media to show what monsters people that disagree with the goverment are.
And they'll use that to take squash your opinion?
It's already being squashed, Hans.
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>>55861439
How would I realistically do this? You can't just tell me to work miracles.
>>55861511
That would only worsen the situation.
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>tfw one of the few european countries without hurt feels social media police

I'd like to think it's due to us having been a dictatorship until the 70s, and arresting people for opinions would look bad, but it's probably just lack of manpower.
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>>55861282
I'd just like to observe, without condoning any particular behavior, that most American casualties in Iraq- an asymmetrical (guerrilla) engagement- did not come from weapons fire. ;)
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why is it only japan and USA have total freedom of speech?
Literally the only thing we cant say is that we want to blow up a theater or some shit
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>>55855117
Dude, I would so take Hitler right now, I would be proud as fuck of you guys if you pulled that shit against the shitskins, you have no idea.
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>>55861652
>Australia

(Yes I know)
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>>55861732
They will use it to manipulate the masses with cheap propaganda. Just like they are right now.
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>>55861750
That was pretty funny.
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Reminder that the only way to bring europe back to normal is to have some kebabs kill Merkel. If anyone but a refugee nigger darker then the midnight sky doesn't do it then the lefties will use it to take over all of Europe, it needs to be a violent beheading or burning of sorts. I pray for isis, only this one time, to be planning such attack.
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>>55861745
go out at night and spray paint inflammatory messages on government buildings in Arabic.Try to get them to think everything that's wrong is the governments fault.
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>>55860884
It really doesn't get much more simple than this.

The problem with Europe has been they never fought for their "freedom;" it merely devolved upon them when their autocrats were deposed by outside forces. Not knowing what sustains it, it easily slips from their fingers.

I mean, listen to this stark, raving kekoldry >>55861495

Lambs, the lot of them, just waiting for the slaughter to begin because they've allowed another ruling class to crop up in place of the old, just having to rely on hope to see that they'll make it through.
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>>55861750
As long as we keep PS+BE+PCP out we'll be kind of ok.
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>>55855897
Why not both?
First one, then the other.
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>>55852135

Never. The Teuton genes were decimated during WWI and WWII, the progeny was brainwashed and fed soy and licorice. There are no more Germans, just wankers.
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>>55861652
Say what you will, but I'm not gonna let a fucking britkek tell me that we're the last place to talk about freedom.
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>>55861282
Cash, and hardware stores, are your friends. Research carefully, with anonymizing software of some kind (I recommend TOR), the security controls in place for hardware store purchases. I really don't feel comfortable getting more specific than that, however.
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>>55861887
>have some kebabs kill Merkel
That would be pretty ironic. Bonus points if it's a Syrian refugee.
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>>55853323
>This leader has the second highest approval ratings of any leader in the world

The germans are truly lost.
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>>55862021
>(I recommend TOR)
> I really don't feel comfortable getting more specific than that, however.
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>>55861887
Never. They venerate her. Officially. Guess why.
>>55861597
Never underestimate the naiveness of the germans. But I hope ur right.
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>>55856794
>reasonable likely to offend insult race colour national or ethnic origin...

Nothing about religion.

Toben worked because Jews are seen as a race, which is bulllshit, their whites and browns with a religious culture.

Nothing about religion or culture comes into it, but they are read into the law as being racist by socialist, critical thinking Judges and Magistrates.
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>>55859608
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammany_Hall
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>>55861852
>Just like they are right now.
What have you got to lose?
Unless, of course, this is true:
>>55859831
And I have my doubts...
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>>55857468

why, when they could just kill the Jews and those problems fix themselves

Kikes got an unlimited supply of the people you listed. And they have clearly shown that they are more than willing to move said people aorund.
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>>55851266
You poor keks chose this future when you bought into the guilt trips during occupation. Stop electing weak people, and turn your country around.
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>>55854964
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>>55851266
Miss me yet?
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>>55861937
That does not apply to europeans east of germany. They fought a whole fucking lot for freedom. Look at poland, hungary.
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>>55854493
Björn Höcke is the one you need
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Who is this unsung hero?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WzrqSvwO1s
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>>55862259
Hitler had nice hair, I can never get my part to look that clean.
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>>55856794
I got it!
This explains the shitposting here, you guys can't do it irl. Cool.
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>>55853013
under
rated
post

Also, this is all part of the plan, guys.
The entire Western World will be seized by the Islamic State. Its what the NWO wants. That way, were all scared, helpless and more than willing to do whatever it takes to make sure we and our families are safe...even if that means giving power to the Illuminati.
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>>55853323
Was there ever any story behind this?
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>>55854284
So when millions of brown people suddenly need your free health care and aren't paying, who is paying?
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>>55853323
Women shouldn't run countries. Especially liberal cunts like this whore
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Would be pretty cool if Merkel died and had to be replaced
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>>55862290
This somewhat rings true, and look; East Europe was the first to recognize the insanity inherent to the refugee influx and closed their borders, representing the will of their people.
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Merkel is literally worse than hitler. She will finish off germany once and for all.

Thank you america, thank you for doing nothing. Thank you for voting for Obama who is just a black merkel.
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>>55851927
>Britain literally has a law against "hate speech"
Curiously unused on imams preaching that we must be mutilated.
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>>55857145
Exactly, Merkel knows that most Germans at this point are starting to (reasonably) change their mind on recent migrant policies, and she's attempting to strongly intimidate them before this new sentiment picks up momentum and achieves a more public voice. The news stories are being used to warn everyone.

At this point I'm realizing the motivation is almost primarily economic, and the pressure mainly coming from outside (related) interests.


I'm not sure how citizens out there can bypass the legal barriers to expressing dissent on these matters right now, but something may give way if she starts arresting too many people en masse, or if more problems with immigrants continue to develop at a high frequency.
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>>55862084
She was 6 month ago. Now she is not anymore. Not even close.
>>55862123
>>55862169
It's true. Going down 8.5% in only a few months is dropping 20% which means a lot less party donations because in the forseable future they will have 20% less seats which means a lot less say on economical important matters.
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>>55861805
Technically you probably could say "I want to blow up a theater." It's inciting people to do it, or threatening to do it that's illegal. There are lots of illegal things I "want" to do that I never would actually do. This is a fine line, sure, but I think it's of great importance.

>>55862016
Holy shit, is that real? Fucking 1984, Jesus Christ.

>>55861852
>Just like they are right now
Exactly. It changes nothing. Your applications of naked force, however, would be new. It would be creating consequences for robbing you of your freedom.
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>>55853323
If Obama did this there wouldn't be a democrat elected for years
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>>55851824
>ban 20 year rapper from your country because he said rape
>free speech
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>>55854180
Sending 4-5 million Germans to die fighting the Soviets is effectively genocide.
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>TFW German descent and last name pretty similar to Merkel

Just kill me now, I can't take the shame
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>>55862479
>Its what the NWO wants.

But WHY?????

I do not understand the endgame.
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>>55857676
fuck hella masonry as fuck
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>>55853473
Gas the muzzies. :)
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I stand ready
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>>55862627
>Thank you for voting for Obama who is just a black merkel.

It's a huge conspiracy. These so called "leaders" were not democratically elected. The system was rigged and they are just following the orders of their masters. Traitors to the core.
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>>55855539

Enjoy your v&
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>>55858084
any instances of this happening? no? fuck off, then
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>>55852247
I'm polishing my shotgun.
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>>55862756

I used to wash dishes. Hello brother.
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>>55853323

THIS is your fucking leader??
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>>55862769
We were supposed to be crew.
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>>55854172
Get a load of this faggot.
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>>55862627
We voted for Obama because far too many of our people have come down with the European disease, being enamored with importing European ideas. It's been going on for a century.
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>>55862587
European defense ministers. No joke.
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>>55862726
They believe that a One World Government will unite everyone - end war. Focus the world's resources on ending hunger and disease. Which sounds nice, but the way they're trying to get there is by the murdering of countless "nobodies" - victims of pointless war, the impoverished who resort to crime, and etc.. You can't expect a utopia from men like that.
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>>55859622
SOCOM is at MacDill AFB in Tampa. Just FYI
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>>55861282
Simply organise like minded individuals and begin to hold meetings, grow
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>>55862627
Hitler is just what you need right now you faggy piece of shit
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>>55853323
Why hasn't any German shot this woman yet? At least guys like Obama pretend to like their country if nothing else, Merkel has no redeemable traits.
>Hates her country
>Shitty policies
>Propping up the weakest members of the EU
>Unattractive
>Scared of dogs
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>>55860523
30min
He's in a tank.
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>>55858191
What the FUCK are nogunz germans going to do? Nobody will do shit, eventually germany will be attacked and all our women will overlay the german flag on their FB for a week.

One man can change a country
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>>55862843
Dish washing is a true art
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>>55862670
Britain is full 1984.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUCRamTAJEY
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>>55860029
nah democracy is more like 6 heienas voting for the lions carcass
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>>55853323
What is it? On mobile
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>>55853323
This triggers my jimmies, why being the leader of a nation if you aren't fully committed to it? I mean I understand the third reich guilt but still what the fuck, what are you trying to prove. Hell here in tacoland the president wears the damn flag.
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>>55860472


As if the muslims pop into existence, out of the ether.

As long as people like you defend Jews, the Jews will flood your kekold ass with Muslims.
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>>55862929

Communism has always depended on mass murder to work.

I still just don't understand the tactics. How would ending the white race bring about their utopia?
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>>55851266
You know, I'm not sure anymore. Are they trying to provoke another German led world war? I mean the German people can only take so much.
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>>55863202
>TV is a dying medium
>Britbongs need a license to have a TV
Why would anyone in Britain have a TV?
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Dont call it a grave
Its the future you chose when you decided to let a woman run a country
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>>55860715
Nice try, turbocuc
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>>55853013
a crazy woman

you mean a woman
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>>55862670
>Holy shit, is that real? Fucking 1984, Jesus Christ.

Anglos specialize in this
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>>55862714
I'm half German and have an Irish last name but next year I'm having it legally changed to Kreig
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>>55863002
this
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>>55863272
>How would ending the white race bring about their utopia?
It doesnt...directly. But, if the people are fighting among themselves, whether about race, politics or some other thing, then the people are not fighting against the Bankers robbing us of our freedom openly.
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>>55863259
Lets go derper
some actual quotes of (mostly leftist) german politicians:
1) “The german folk must be enclosed from the outside and thinned out from the inside” (Joschka Fischer – former german foreign minster)

2) “I wish the french border would end at the polish border and germany would vanish forever” (Sieglinde Frieß – Bündnis90/Die Grünen)

3) It’s not about right or wrong in the immigration debate, we are concerned first about the repression of the German population share in this country. " (Chairman of Bündnis90/Die Grünen)

4) "We, the Greens must ensure to bring as many foreigners as possible to Germany. If they are in Germany, we have to fight for their right to vote. When we have achieved that, we will have the share of the vote, we need to change this republic. " (Daniel Cohn-Bendit – Bündnis90/Die Grünen – also notoriously known for propagating paedophilia)

5) Migration is a fact in Frankfurt. If you do not like, you have to immigrate. " (Nargess Eskandari-Grünberg – Aldermen Frankfurt City Council)

6) German “heros” should be beaten to death by the world , like rabid dogs (Joschka Fischer – former german foreign minster)

7) “The problem is not Thilo Sarrazin as a person, it’s the like-minded population in Germany”
(Cem Özdemir – Member of parliament – Chairman Bündnis90/Die Grünen)

8) I’ve never sang the German national anthem and I will not do it as a minister, too. " (Jürgen Trittin – Member of parliament – former german environment minister)
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>>55863535
cont.

9) Germany disappears every day more and more, and I think that just great. " (Jürgen Trittin – Member of parliament – former german environment minister)

10) In twenty years, we have a Green chancellor and I advise the Turkish government on the question of how handle their problems with the German minority on the Mediterranean coast." (Cem Özdemir – Member of parliament – Chairman Bündnis90/Die Grünen)

11) It might surprise you, but I am a Treator (Volksverräter). I love and promote the national death. " (Christin Löchner – Member of parliament – Party- The Left)

12) Integration begins with the fact that you as a German have to learn Turkish!" (Renate Künast – Member of aprliament. Party Bündnis90/Die Grünen)

13) Turkey is second home to me, I make turkish politics for 20 years. (Claudia Roth – Member of aprliament – former Chairman Party Bündnis90/Die Grünen)

14) Well, the German nation, is nothing at all for me, to what I refer positively. I would politically even fight (germany). " (Franziska Drohsel Young Socialists SPD)

15) What our forefathers didn’t achive at the gates of Vienna ( great siege of vienna 1683 by the ottomans/turks – aka the occupation of western europe), we will achieve with our minds." (Cem Özdemir – Member of Parliament – turkish immigrant – Chairman Party Bündnis90/Die Grünen)
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>>55860222
Its really not that easy over there. Of all the countries that need to rise up and flush the kebab, Germany CANNOT be first or it will destroy the entire movement.

Any nationalist action in Germany is going to immediately be compared to Nazis and once that happens, it will be the same throughout Europe.

And say what you want about the media but our governments have too much control for us to completely ignore appearance. Even in America, they can and will label youba terrorist and shut you down. Look at Waco and the Branch Dividians....were they fucking creepers? Sure thing....but should the govt have the right to firebomb their home because they disagree? Of course not... The Patriot Act basically destroyed our Constitution and now anyone can be called a terrorist for any reason and have their rights abolished. And this in the "Capital of Freedom."

We are all doomed if we don't have a spiritual awakening
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>>55862756
The fuck, that work station looks like where I work
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>>55861513
It was hosted in US , just the cheapest host I could find. Apparently where it's hosted didn't matter, it's where the material is created...
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>>55863017
>Why hasn't any German shot this woman yet?

>implying assassinations ever work for the groups which conduct them
This is precisely what will strengthen the forces of internationalism, and swing the ebb history against you.

>At least guys like Obama pretend to like their country if nothing else
In what way does Obama pretend to like America? The man despises us. He doesn't even have a connection with the culture; he was reared in Indonesia, and fell in with communists upon his return to the states.
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>>55863500
Why? That sounds really fucking pathetic. Not to mention your choice of surname is edgy as fuck.
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>>55863580
>Roth
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>>55853209
>this song
:'(
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>>55862300
sauce on this?
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>>55851266
The Nazi's are back it seems, although this time they're genociding the native German people.
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>>55863664
>This is precisely what will strengthen the forces of internationalism, and swing the ebb history against you.
Because sitting on their hands is really helping the Germans to keep the tide of immigrants out.
>In what way does Obama pretend to like America? The man despises us. He doesn't even have a connection with the culture; he was reared in Indonesia, and fell in with communists upon his return to the states.
Still says god bless America and doesn't snatch away American flags and get rid of them like an angry teacher finding a note being passed in class.
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>>55863535
>>55863580
Kekland, please give us back Slesvig.

You fuckers don't deserve that land with how much you hate yourself.
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>>55863496
The Eternal Anglo has taken Orwell to be a playbook instead of a warning.
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>>55856152
There's stuff I just don't say anymore

tone policing myself on 4chan of all places feels pretty weird but its probably ultimately healthy to have a more level-headed approach to things.
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fuck this cunt angela merkelstein
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>>55854172
I can post as much anti-Muslim shit on my facebook as I want and no one will show up to my door to arrest me. Can you say the same you fucking kek?
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>>55863652
Hmm. That makes things difficult then. You probably should have sought out a trusted associate in the US who would publish your writings under his own name. Of course now I imagine there must be hosting providers which accept Bitcoin with whom you could use a false name, though I've never checked.
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>>55863672
Because it fits well with my first and middle name, also I don't really enjoy my last name.
Could just be my grandad being a full blooded native that makes me want to change my name past the age of 13 I dunno.
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>>55861159
>>55861513
I'd like to know more as well. I didn't realize how Gestapo shit was in Europe
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>>55863913
Makes sense that only the Germans could ever effectively eliminate the germans
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>>55864133
TTP is giving us that glorious taste of European "freedom" too mate get ready
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>>55864104
And what of the rest of your heritage? I often mockingly mention that being part Irish is my great shame but changing your last name is like spitting on the heritage of all of your Irish family members who came before you. Honestly why not marry and take your wife's last name, slightly less insulting than outright changing your last name.
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>>55862726
If you really want to know, read "Politics, Prophecy and the Supernatural" by LA Marzulli. That is the closest thing I've read to what will happen.
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