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Has /pol/ bought a gun yet?
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>>55831391
Yes, one concealed carry, one assault rifle, and one shotgun
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I will get my personal service rifle to keep it at home in 18 weeks. Will definitelz buy ammo, also thinking about buying a pistol.
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THERTYODDSIX
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Just bought an MPK-7 for my 18th birthday
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>>55831391
Hunarian here, we cant have real guns, the best I have is a 175lbs crossbow. But hey at least its even worst to get shot by. Razerblades going through the body isnt exactly halal.
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>>55831477
>assault rifle
lol bullshit

>>55831801
>MPK-7
the fuck is that?
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Started buying guns when I moved out to based Indiana. It's as simple as buying what I want online, getting it shipped to my friendly Vietnam vet FFL guy that only charges $15 for the transfer, and I'm on my way. Slick little Taurus 380 pocket gun for easy breezy conceal carry, a Romanian AES10b (cheap RPK-ish clone), and an M44 Mosin carbine to shoot, bayonet, deafen, and set on fire (mosin guys know what I'm talking about) anyone stupid enough to break into the house when I'm home. Of course the issue is, coming from a liberal college town in Upstate NY, that there are legitimate risks for my safety living where I am now in terms of crime. I'm in close vicinity to majority black neighborhoods and there's constantly gunshots/shootings reported from these areas. Back home it was just annoying, granola eating, Prius driving, brain dead, but harmless liberals.
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>>55831391
yes
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Waiting for restrictions to loosen up a bit.
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>>55831391
careful about that on /pol/
free speech and bla bla bla
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>>55831391
Guys what about a "faces of /pol/" thread?
Also prove that you are white by posting your eyes.
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>>55831391
19 years old, have about $1,500 to my name, currently in University studying Computer Science. Can't get a handgun because I want one for concealed carry, but I'm not 21 yet.

Been trying to decide if I should get a Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 for home defense. The Mossberg is a bit more compact for close quarters, but holds fewer shells and is known for breaking around the plastic trigger guard. The Remington is more sturdy and has an alloy trigger guard, but is heavier and less wieldy I'm tight quarters.

What do?

I also want to buy a bolt action rifle sometime soon, as well. Preferably 20th century milsurp, but not a nugget because it'd mostly just be for taking to the range. My brother already has a nugget, so shooting one at the range is something I already can do. Anybody know where I can find a good used Mauser under $300-$350?
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>>55831391
>.40
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>>55831996
AR10, is something wrong?
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>>55831477
>Assault Rifle
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>>55832701
The ar 10 isn't an assault rifle nerd
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>>55832715
Jesus Christ I was trying to keep it generic, give me a break!
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>>55831391
Not yet. I can't turn 21 fast enough (jan 18)... Although I'm in TX so I guess I could pick up a hunting rifle.
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Noguns here. I've been wondering this for a while:

How have gun restriction laws continued to persist? When you read the constitution, it is very clear that they are unconstitutional; why hasn't anyone/group lawyered up and tried to escalate them to the supreme court? Has this been attempted without success? I don't see how it's possible for the supreme court to rule in favor of gun control.
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I've got guns. Anticipating the Obama chimpouts.

>>55832525
You can get a Yugo M48, mauser action, a bit shorter, and about 3-400. I think 8mm though so you have to hunt for expensive ammo. But they are closest you can get to a real nazi mauser for under $1000+.
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>>55832817
What would you call it then? and for that matter what would you consider an assault rifle?
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>>55831391

It's easy for you to say american, if I lived in your country I probably would have multiple guns.
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>>55832525
>shotgun
>home defense
Lolno

Please, get an ar15.
Buy once cry once. For the whole HD setup it shouldn't run you more than $700.

Benefits of an ar15:
-30 rounds vs 7
-less over penetration with the right HD ammo
-Less recoil
-objectively better ergos
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>>55832922
They keep striking it down. Heller and McDonald being the two biggest gun control decisions by the supreme court. There's another big case the supreme court is considering to hear right now that concerns assault weapon bans.
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>>55832979
An "assault rifle" has the option of select fire. It can fire in full auto.
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I have a gun but I all I know about it is its a 9mm.

I suck with guns, I don't know anything about them, I don't even like fps games, so I didn't even learn stuff from there.

All I know is, I shoot, bad guys die.

Bully me now I guess.
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>>55831391

Muh XCR and family. I've since added an FN SLP semi-auto 12-gauge. Fucker shoots 8 rds in less than a second.
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Not this week. Going to need another safe. Did take take an Advanced Combat Handgun class yesterday though.
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>>55833177
Yeah, I stand corrected. I wrongly assumed semi autos like the AR was assault rifle, guilty of the jew media influence.
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Bought this Winchester 1887 10ga yesterday
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>>55833177
Correct.

Which, funnily enough, can lead to some funny outcomes.

For example, in some states where assault RIFLES are banned, full auto only rifles are fine (NFA notwithstanding) since they aren't actually assault rifles
Heh
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>>55831391

bought 2 and made 1

very pleased with my arsenal
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>>55832525
Better yet get a handgun, even if you can't concealed carry you're better off with it since it'll only be for home defense anyway.

The most important thing you need to consider is penetration, so I'd ask do you live in an apartment, town home, house? How close are your neighbors because that's really the most important factor in the decision. You don't want to go to jail from shooting through or missing the intruder.
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>>55833224
One of the better collections I've seen on /pol/.
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>>55831477

>assault rifle

get a load of this faggot
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>>55833436
Please please please DONT fire smokeless power loads in that until you triple check the date of manufacture.

Because a lot of those are meant for regular black powder loads. You wouldn't want it to explode, would you?
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>>55833207
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>>55831391
start looking for an old used mp5
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>>55831391
No. Can't be arsed to get a firearm permit.
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>>55833130
>shotgun
>bad for home defense

Special kind of retard aren't you? Nothing wrong with 12 gauge and birdshot in close quarters. Won't go though most walls and depending on range it'll hit like a slug.
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>>55832979

its just a rifle dumbass
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I've got an AK47 defense rifle
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I do. I have plenty.

This photo is out of date.
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I don't need a gun
My island is safe
we even have cannons that we used to defend ourselves from the ottomans
they still work!
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>>55833662
Yeah it's a 1895 year production, it takes 2 7/8 shells and this is the only website I've found that has them http://www.rstshells.com/store/m/1-10-Gauge.aspx
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>>55833715
>birdshot for HD
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This photo is also out of date, I need to get a new lens before I can update these photos

>>55833711
As one of the few european countries that can own cool stuff I think you should
>>55833974
They have boats you know
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>>55831391
Not in the last six months or so, no...
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>>55833700
dubs confirms OP needs full auto semi-machinegun
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>>55833991
Might as well load your own if they are that expensive, jeez
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>>55833896
>Yugo AK
>mauser
>FAL
go forth and remove shitskin
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>>55831391
I want to, but I live in Maryland, and if you want a license to carry you have to give reason to own it, which has to be a legitimate threat according to state police
Interestingly though, long guns are legal to open carry without a permit. hmmm
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>>55834053
dude we have like 10 cannons
no one can come
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I live in California and thus far I just have a Mosin Nagant carbine (Back in the early 2000s when they were like 80$)

and pump action shotgun.

Need a pistol now. Any suggestions?
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>>55833656
Noguns fuckboi detected
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A few airsoft guns is all I get get.

*insert funny asian smiley*
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>>55831391
No Mr. Fbi, I'm a good little sheep.
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>>55831391
ATF pls go.
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>>55833896

>that FAL, HK93, and AR15A3
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>>55834315
>pistol
you'll never get the license, california is so fucking jewie you'll simply never get one
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>>55834169
na, I just wanted one. home defense, I'd take a shotgun
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>>55834315
I know that Mosin carbine kicks like a mule, and has a muzzle flash the size of King Kong nutsack.
>my buddy has one, it's not even fun to shoot
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>>55834325

nah you're just retarded, AR15/AR10 are a semiautomatic rifle
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>>55834315
My buddy carries a PPQ 9mm, I switch between a glock 19 and USP 45. Can't go wrong with any of em.
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>>55834581
With the current carry shitshow theres no way anyone is getting charged for carrying without a permit.

I was in Chicago while McDonald was moving up through the courts and actually got caught carrying. I ended up losing a couple hours of my time, but CPD's felony review told them to cut me loose.
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>>55834709
Pic related
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>>55833224
May I fap to this?
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>>55833224
I wish I lived in America :(
God bless the USA
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No, illegal.
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>>55831391
Not yet trying to decide between Glock 19 or 26.

in b4 "lol 9mm"
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>>55834178
Since photo was taken ive added a K98 among others
>>55834266
yeah I see that boat running away
>>55834512
It only grows larger by the day. Ill post more photos when I get a new lens
>>55834847
19 is more usable and unless youre skeleton you can carry it
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>>55834847
19

26 is a meme gun
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>>55834709
Given that he's in Cali he might want to look at single stack pistols for the time being. The last thing he wants to do is run into some jurisdiction with a mag ban and get jammed up because he has 14 rounds instead of 10.
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>>55834775
7 round clip? I bet his dick is small too
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>>55834053
No point. Every cool assault rifle costs over $1k, American even more. Sure, I could get CZ 858 for $300, but fuck that.
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What's a good home defense pistol?
Something with decent stopping power, but without a huge kick. (>9mm)
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>>55835073
get a used one... ffs
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>>55835119
Just get a 9 with defensive ammo
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>>55835073
>but fuck that
What is wrong with a CZ858? Those are perfect for defense, even more so if you put a folder on it
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>>55832979
Assault Rifles are capable of select fire ie full auto or burst. You bought a rifle.
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>>55834982
Glock makes 10 and 15 round mags for the 19
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I've got a Glock 17, and SR1911, and an AR-15. Also going to buy an SLR-107FR soon.
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>>55835070
17 you dumbfuck.
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>>55835309
Yeah, but at that point you're giving up weight and width for nothing.
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>>55833699
that shit is not a glock
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>>55835437
No shit sherlock.
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>>55833715
>Bird shot for self defense

I hope you're trolling because if not you might be retarded

Who knows though. Maybe if you're worried about small game breaking into your house you might be onto something...
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>>55831391
Marlin 795 with three mags
Remington 870 Express
SKS with 800 rounds

This is what I have, but I don't know much about guns. Handguns are too much trouble in Canada. How am I doing pol?
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>>55835232
>What is wrong with a CZ858
Hermex effect
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the only firearm that you can get easy and legally here is a shotgun
all you have to do is get a hunting permit
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>>55835402
I guess it depends on your hands. You could offset the weight with +p or add extended floor plates. Or just buy a 1911 style... I'm assuming he's not carrying because, you know, California.
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>>55833896
Based anon
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always love having an excuse to post my gun
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How are .45 autos?
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>>55833130

dont get anything less than a daniel defense ... that's the absolute lowest id go for an ar15 variant and it's rare to find them under $1000

anything under $700 for an ar15 is going to be garbage. your post may give newbies the implication that all ar15 variants are of good quality and this isn't true at all.
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>>55835387
wow 17, nice
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>>55833896
Please label left to right
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>>55835572
Ah, ours in the states dont have that. Sorry to hear about it. Honestly I would get one and fiddle with it until it works reliably. Or buy a second hand one used.

Can you get a real AK or just VZs?
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>>55835844
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>>55835565
http://www.outdoorhub.com/stories/2015/03/18/mad-gun-science-birdshot-effective-home-defense/

Sure, pal.
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It takes over a month to get a permit for a gun in my state and i'm to lazy to go through all the shit required
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>>55835885
Mossberg 702 plinkster - 22lr
DSA FAL - 308
Spanish 1916 Mauser - 308
91/30 made in 1943 - 7.62x54r
SBR I put together - 5.56
Yugo Underfolder - 7.62x39
Romanian Fixed stock - 7.62x39
Century made clone of HK93 - 5.56
M16A3 styled AR15 - 5.56

Ive added at least 5 more rifles since this photo.
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>>55835886
I'm planning on getting an ak in maryland soon. But since they're banned I'm buying an ak pistol and turning it into an sbr. Can't stop me now O'Malley.
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>>55835886
We can get pretty much anything, including .50 BMG sniper rifle.

http://www.zbrane-doplnky.cz/cs/6-pusky
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>>55836039
Thanks, bro, mirin'
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>>55831391
I wish I had a p239.
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>>55831847
Especially if the bolt tips are dipped in lard first.
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>>55831391
I need more money; but I'm on it.
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>>55832634
Thats 9mm
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>>55831477
>one assault rifle
u got a full auto bruh? totes legit
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>>55836043
Nice. Make sure you handle the model you want first, some of the older dracos had the serial number where you need to cut for a real trunion.
>>55836076
I dont know the cost of ammo or your disposable income but I would jump on http://www.zbrane-doplnky.cz/cs/pistole/641-scorpion-s-765mm-pistole-samonabijeci.html

Compact enough to carry if stuff gets crazy yet folds out to a nice usable pattern for serious stuff
>>55836077
No problem.
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can someone recommend me a shotgun?
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>>55835943
>The short range performance was certainly devastating to plywood, but the gel tests showed nowhere near the level of penetration that a traditional handgun bullet would achieve.

Good thing people don't wear heavy jackets or anything that might make the penetration for bird shot worse.

All you need to do is get the attacker within 10 or 15 feet for it to be effective.

Good thing the recoil is easy to manage unlike a full sized pistol or semi auto rifle

Good thing it only takes one shot to kill someone and follow up shots aren't necessary

Stay fudd you moron
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>>55836409
870
Mossberg 500
Mossberg 590

Can you link a greek gunshop?
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>>55836473
http://www.kalkantzakos.com/default.asp
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>>55836409
I'd recommend the Mossberg 500 or the Mossberg 590. I've been hearing really bad things about the newer production Remington 870's lately but that's only second hand knowledge.
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>>55836441
Holy shit, it doesn't penetrate as well as a handgun? You sure showed me.
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Question lads: Why did the IRA like the AR-18 so much?
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>>55836473
>870
I second the 870. Police and military use it here. It is super common with a tonne of accessories. It has excellent resale value. The express version is relatively inexpensive.
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>>55833715
>Nothing wrong with 12 gauge and birdshot in close quarters
Except for everything. Birdshot is a good way to get yourself dead. Shotguns suck for home defense. They're long, and if you don't know what you're doing (which is most people who recommend a shotgun is best fall under that category) they fucking suck.
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Canada friends, how hard is it to get the restricted fire arms license?
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>>55831605
I'm so jealous of you Swissbro.
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>>55836721
Not hard at all. But to own a restricted firearm you have to belong to a gun club. You can't take it anywhere except to and from the gun club.

Its really not worth it considering non-restricted are so lax.
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>>55836556
My greek is non existent but clicking around gives me the following:

http://www.kalkantzakos.com/Product/3254/verp-12,-karampina-molot - My first choice, very high quality. We can get these in the states and they work well.

http://www.kalkantzakos.com/Product/2258/saiga-078,-karampina-kalashnikov - Good secondary choice if you can afford it. Not as good as vepr12

http://www.kalkantzakos.com/Product/773/51663,-epanaliptiki-karampina-mossberg-590a1 - if you can only get a pump action, 590a1 is one of the most durable ones you can get.

http://www.kalkantzakos.com/Product/798/31025,-epanaliptiki-karampina-maverick-88 - If you have to poorfag it this isnt too bad. They work just fine but I would get an extended tube model.

For ammunition stock up on buckshot since it is unlikely that any of these people will have armor.
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>>55834947
>26 is a meme gun
nah m8. 26 is good only for the fact it takes G17 and 19 mags, and it's small enough for ankle carry. If I didn't have a G19 I would get a G43 for ankle.
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>>55836604
>.22 doesn't penetrate as well as .223? XD u sure showed me! .22 still a good defense round!

If you don't see a problem with this there is no hope for you.

Go sporterize a K98 or whatever you faggots do in your free time
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>>55836721
now you have to go to courses
to learn stuff you shouldn't shoot too much

idiot
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>>55836906
thank you so much dude
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>>55836637
because thats what they had and they were cheap
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>>55835402
Single stacks with 10 round mags are long as shit. You could do a grip chop to take G26 mags at 10 rounds if size and weight are that big of a deal.
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>>55835070
>clip
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.22 ruger pistol
1911
.22 ruger bolt action rifle
AR-15
M14
.308 savage
.50 Beowulf PDW

Freedom is great.
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7 pistols, 2 assault rifles, 1 top of the line hunting rifle, 1 shotgun. I also have a bow that I've used to hunt. I have a Ford Raptor with all the bells and whistles, as well as $2400 night vision goggles
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>>55836676
Shotguns are strong home defense weapons, but you're better off taking a defensive position because the length of the weapon presents an opportunity for an attacker. 00 buck will put a man down real quick. I still clear my home if I suspect something with my XD40 and tuck it in close for corners.
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>>55836885
I see. For non-restricted firearms do you need to provide a reason for owning one other than for example, being a collector?
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>>55837844
I do believe you must belong to a gun club. And I think you can lose it if you don't. Not sure why you want one, its so easy to get a non-restricted. You can buy and sell at a gun show and no one knows.
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>>55831477
no guns confirmed.
tell about your form3?
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>>55837444
I've found that width, rather than length, is the key when concealing.
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>>55834810
sorry your country did that thing we aren't allowed to do to muslims
ban all of something because things went wrong for a group of them
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>>55835070
>clip
>clip
>clip
>clip
>clip
>clip
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I probably post this shit too often.

2x 16'' 5.56x45 AR-15's.

Right one
>Anderson upper & barrel with a Matrix Arms rail.
>Anderson 80% lower with a Magpul + PSA lower kit.

Left one
>Radical Arms upper, barrel & rail.
>Phoenix G150 Phoenix 2 Polymer 80% lower + Anderson LPK.

Raw Ares Armor 80% lower in the middle.
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>>55839291
>polymer lower
Other than that its looking good. Godbless ares
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>>55835070
>7 round capacity
>clip
so much wrong
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i own a bunch but these are my happening loadouts
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>>55839291
Oh yeah.. both have a triple ported compensator (not my picture).
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>>55838278
oh no I was talking about non-restrictive but you answered that in your post, thanks.
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>>55839455
>that gear
>those outfits
>that 92
Atleast put on your tripcode
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>>55839455
c-can i dress up with you and we can be oper8tor grills?
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ayy lmao
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>>55839418
Trust me. I was on some anti-polymer bullshit too.

But I can't fucking believe it. The mother fucker is solid as fuck. I've easily put 1k rounds through it. Without the slightest indication it gives a fuck.

The new batch of polymer lowers are super fucking sturdy.. like way larger than even any milled aluminum lower. They're reinforced everywhere.

The aluminum built rifle comes in 7.5lbs
The polymer built comes in at 5lbs.
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>>55833224
Goddamn dude. They're beautiful.
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>>55838540
Nah, you just need to get a holster that isn't shit.
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>>55839680
Even so I would still roll with aluminum
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>>55831391
I own an ancient 12 gauge shotgun and a very sharp machete. How fucked am I if shit hits the fan?
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>>55839503
Hello, nogunz.
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>>55839816
>ancient 12 gauge
Capacity ?
Is it a coach gun ?
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Of course. Any self-respecting human being should have a gun.
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>>55839815
Part of the whole keeping aluminum backups. I'll probably just throw an LPK into that raw lower and nothing else. If SHTF and the Polymer fails for any reason, I'll have an aluminum ready to swap in.

But those 2.5lbs mean a lot when you're trekking through the mountains, especially if your female friend needs to be carrying a rifle.
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>>55835717
yeah but you cant really shoot someone if he gets in your house, and the gunlaws in general can fuck you up real good. So whats the point if you leave in a city
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>>55834786

Sure. That xcr is a fucking naughty girl.
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>>55839871
I'm the same guy that posted this:
>>55839291

If it weren't for the fact 11.5'' barrels are so fucking expensive, I'd be building a third.
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>>55839942
>Any self-respecting human being should have a gun.
Too bad so many idiots have them either
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>>55840080
Law of large numbers. Idiots eventually die out.
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>>55840080
It's true that idiots shouldn't have guns. That's why Canada got their taken away.
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>>55840080
>have them either

You almost had me going there, darkie.
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Under $400 dolla
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>>55839638
sure wont be the first time that happened though
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>>55832195

>Taurshit
>nugget

Wow bubba you're ready to oper8
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>>55840331
>Under $400 dolla

It's a tarus micro. It had better be way under $400.
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>>55831391
I would not say any of these would do me much good if shit hits the fan
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Red pill me on guns.
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>>55832525
New Rustingtons are shit, please get Mossberg
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>>55840426
They're fun and are great nigger repellent.
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>>55840390
Don't cut yourself on all that edge.
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>>55840390
Shotguns, check.
Two axes, check.
Baseball bat, check.

All you need is a good knife and you're good anon.
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>>55840349
>>55839455
What the fug
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>>55840426

Guns make men equal.

They are literally anti-racist ploy.
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>>55840292
but that's my point
Daesh should go back to the middle ages where they belong and then try to attack North American bases with swords and shit.

Instead we've got religious fanatics from half a millenium away with AKs, Deuces, crates of sourpuss ammo, toyota trucks and all that shit.
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Nice try NSA. Im no idiot.
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>>55840426
Jamal has a gun, regardless of the law. Shouldn't you?
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>>55835870
LOL you can build an AR for $500

Anything over 1000 is paying for a name
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>>55831391
Not yet... I honest to god can't afford one on a grad student stipend.

I've been literally saving money from private tutoring under the mattress to save up for a decent home-def gun.
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>>55840599
>Guns make men equal.
I disagree
Those who know to use it
Darwin awards still apply.
You are going to have those who can field strip a rifle in mere seconds and one who's going to check through the muzzle if the rifle is loaded.
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>>55831391

I'm not allowed to have a gun! I'M NOT ALLOWED!

I'm supposed to keep terror at bay with a screwdriver and a cheese knife. How fucked am I /pol/?
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>>55840786
Get yourself a Hi-Point C9. They're clunky and made of pot metal, but reasonably accurate and go bang every time.
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>>55840869
>Hi-Point

nice meme
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>>55837024
>xdxdxdmemes
You basically called your own argument stupid.
Read the comments on that article for some real world experiences using birdshot at between 10-18 feet.
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>>55840829
>How fucked am I /pol/?

It's dangerous to go alone take this
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>>55831391

I got a Glock-22 (40 cal) for home defense. I need to pick up a good CC gun, probably going to get something like semi compact 380.
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Have my new ar15 c9cked, locked, and ready to rock
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>>55831391
I'm moving off campus next semester and will immediately be buying some sort of rifle or shotgun. Any tips as to what to get? I'm thinking AR-15 if I can get one for cheapish
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>>55835870
GTFO Daniel Defense shill.

I'm tired of you assholes selling rebranded mid-grade shit.

Everything that comes from Daniel Defense is mil-spec... like every other fucking manufacturer.
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>>55835870
>daniel defense

DD is good stuff but you are just mainly buying a name and a rail that you dont need. You are better off buying a plane jane Colt 6920 or BCM or even PSA if you buy the premium parts.
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https://murdercube.com/files/

SELF DEFENSE AND SURVIVAL

THIS IS A MUST FOR EUROPEANS BROS

FUCK READ THROUGH IT
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Glock 17 and SLR107 ready to go.
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>>55841103
I fucking hate my Glock 22.

>>55841252
Fucking exactly. You're forking out an extra 500-700 for what? Furniture?

Fuck that.
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>>55841103
I like both of those rds for the reasons you state.

They make a small .357, btw. You can shoot .38 for practice, and load the fun stuff for HD.

>muh fn slp semi-auto shotgun
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I will try in black market. My country have strong restriction
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I have a Mossberg 500 that I bought when I turned 18 from a pawn shop. Its for protection and shooting at my friends farm.

He keeps a .223 and .308 there as well for when we go deer hunting in season
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>>55841397

Why you hate your glock 22?
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>>55841246
/truth
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>>55841103
I have that same glock. A beast to carry. S&W Bodyguard 380 with DeSantis leather iwb holster. ..perfect ccw
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>>55831391

I have not. What's a good beginner handgun?
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>>55831391

Just bought Garand number six and another Finn Nugget.
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>>55839291
>starbucks logo
I hope you are aware they are against the 2nd amendment
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>>55841478

Ya glock is not a CC weapon. It is a in the night stand weapon.
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>>55841525
look more closely
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i desperately want but it's just not possible
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What is the best option for me and my pussy whipped country? A good self defence weapon that is non lethal but very effective and concealable.
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>>55832525
AR15
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>>55841462
Just not a fan.
Not fun to shoot.
Too bulky to be concealed.
Way too much concentration goes into shot placement.
.40 is not even remotely more affordable than other pistol rounds
Susceptible to shortages
LEO no longer shooting .40, so you can't be scavenging ammo if SHTF.
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>>55841585
I know, still based on the starbucks logo
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going to store now
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>>55841551
I'd carry mine hunting, nice shoulder holster. Trust me on the .380 though it's no more trouble than a wallet to carry.
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>>55841657
Yeah.. but Starbucks can suck my dick..
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>>55841602
Anything norinco for Canada bros
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>>55831391

I live in NY. Not NYC, but Long Island. I have no idea how to buy a gun.
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>>55831391

I've got a few
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>>55841841
Dem nuggets
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>>55836676
>minimize overpenetration and chance for hitting family
>better chance of hitting target with minimal aim time
>devastating in close quarters
>the sound of racking a round

Yea, sounds terrible for home defense. Not everyone is a tacticool operator like you.
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>>55841645

Ya I am going to get a better weapon for CC. I am not worried about ammo cost. I am worried about putting enough stopping power towards the door to my bedroom.
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>>55836600
would second this, I own a 870 and 590, would much rather have a tang safety especially in high stress situations.
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>>55841657
>>55841778
It's a reference to the OC protests they had in California a few years back.

To try and spread awareness of people's gun rights, people would have big meetups at Starbucks.

This inevitably lead to every soccermom in a 30 mile radius fainting and begging Moonbeam Brown to end the scourge of people liking things they don't like.
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>>55841838
>I live in NY

1. Buy bus ticket
2. move to another state
3. buy a gun
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>>55832701
It's a battle rifle
>>>/k/ would help you out my friend if you have questions
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>>55841745

Thanks, I have been looking at 380s for CC.
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>>55841838
Walk into certain Walmarts or Dick's if you're lazy. There are actual gun stores around if you feel like getting something else.
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>>55841551
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>>55841947

Isn't that illegal? To buy a gun in another state if the state you live in has banned that particular gun?
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>>55841906
Just get a 45 if you want "dat stoppin powah"

Besides, for a bedside firearm you want a rifle or a shotgun. Using a bedside weapon presupposes that you may not be in any sort of element to expect danger and mentally prepare yourself for defending your life. You want something that either has really easy shot placement, or where shot placement doesn't matter.
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>>55841841
Why would anyone have that many weapons?
Or does each one serves a specific purpose?
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>>55841906

not trolling, have shotguns gone out of style for HD? I'm an oldoldfag and I usually don't into /k/, so I'm out of the loop.
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>>55831391
Getting my first gun, an AR15, in the mail in a few days. Got a mid-length, melonited, PSA upper and Franklin lower. They're making me wait for 10 days to get my lower because kekafornia.
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>>55841940
ohhh
sorry for being a newfag to the american gun owner culture
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>>55835870
Verylittleexperiencewithgunsdetected

Just stop
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Hoooooo. A topic about guns
Sadly in Portugal (european dictatorship) i cant buy one.
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>>55842109
>illegal
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>>55841940
>tfw these pearl-clutching liberal dick-sucks still think they're the counter culture, but have "the man" so far up their ass you can tell where the state ends and they begin.
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>>55842134
Shotguns with a flashlight are still the best bet for HD.
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>>55836600
>I've been hearing really bad things about the newer production Remington 870's lately but that's only second hand knowledge.


All the rumors are true. My friend bought a 870 express and it would not reliably eject shells. The chambers are rough and when chap birdshot shells expanded they would stick and you had to beat the stock on the ground while pulling the pump back.

My FFL dealer was telling me he quit selling Remington after he sold 20 12 gauge magnums (cant remember the model number offhand). And 11 of them came back because the action would blow open when fired. He contacted Remington to tell them about this and they told him the guns were fine. He said so you are telling me these 11 guns are fine and the the other 9 that didn't come back are broken? i lul'd cause the /k/ rumors are indeed true Remington quality control is SHIT.
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>you will never own a AR-15 to protect your family and home
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I hate libtards, they are manipulares by kikes hooked noses
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>>55842424
Just throw one of your venomous crocodile at you enemy.
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>>55840349
Whoa you're actually kind of cute dude.
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>>55842134

I was on the fence between a shotgun or a common police handgun.
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>>55841384
Does anyone know how I can download this entire website?
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>>55842563
>venomous crocodile
>not emus
0/10
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Free people own guns.
Slaves do not.
No master will ever allow a slave to own guns.
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>>55842121

Variety is fun.
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Kel-Tec polymer race reporting in.
Hating on KT is amusing /k/ meme stock, but Trayvon sure didn't laugh.
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>>55842563
Why the fuck would i dare take one of our beautiful animals out of its netrual envirament mate?
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>>55831391

I'm actually debating whether to get one or not, being an atheist in turkey being a dangerous and what not. I'm actually afraid the shit I say on reddit and fb is going to come back and bite me in this ass
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>>55843084
For the same reason you end up wiping out a new species every ten years.
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>>55842827

I wanna know this too.
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>>55842730

The SG has an edge over a pistol in HD, but not so much that it overcomes the usefulness of a pistol that can be carried camping or in a glovebox or backpack.

My opinion, but if I could get one, it'd be a pistol.

If I could get 2, I'd get a pistol and an AR, and if 3, a shotgun, but I live on a lily-white florida island, so ymmv.

>inb4 I'm btfo by people who know more than me
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