What I don't get is how the descendants of immigrants, who mostly left their home countries for economic reasons, can be so ignorant, that they lack any self-awarness when they bitch about economic migrants. Would Americans on /pol/ even pass the mirror test?
Aside from that I wonder: What will those muslims supposedly do with us? Force us to live in reservations, like you did with the natives?
>>55827697
Yes, immigration didn't work out so well for the natives. So why would we want the same thing to happen to us?
Got nothing to say you parasites?
>>55827697
>What will those muslims supposedly do with us?
Read a history book you fucking retard
>>55827697
Anglos conquered the land and build US of A themselves. The country is (was) theirs.
>Aside from that I wonder: What will those muslims supposedly do with us? Force us to live in reservations, like you did with the natives?
Destroy, persecute and make pay jizya. Maybe in a few centuries they will experience their own bleeding heart progressiviness and give native Europeans in the small reservations some gibsmedat.
Native americans were the original terrorists. Shitskin savages who hated civilization and couldnt handle alcohol.
Letting them control america is like giving a crackhead a mansion.
>>55827920
>>What will those muslims supposedly do with us?
>Read a history book you fucking retard
You apparently do not get the concept of irony. On the other hand you are just a slav.
>>55827697
>immigration seriously fucks over the natives destroying thier land, culture, way of life
>caused disease, loss of launguage, and forced re-education to the immigrant's way of life or face consequences
Gee i wonder why we are wary of immigration?
>>55827912
>>55827912
Noone is against immigration, only illegal immigration. Selling your land for shiny beads isn't the same thing.
>>55827697
>What will those Muslims supposedly do with us?
Tax Christians, Jews, and Zoroastrians and execute everyone else.
>>55828015
>Anglos conquered the land and build US of A themselves.
Yeah and they dispelled the natives, stole their shit and treated them like subhumans.
Then they also abducted a shitload of people form Africa to work for free. And today they bitch about them being there.
>>55828059
>German
>Humour
Stop painting injuns as noble savages.
There was no nation established here and the founding fathers emigrated here not merely due to economic reasons, but for social reasons.
Not all immigration is good -- as evidenced by the very injuns you post. If anything, using the example you did actually bolsters the argument against immigration.
>>55827697
>>55827912
does this mean I can go around taking scalps to defend my land too?
>>55827910
It wasnt immigrantion which happened to the natives. Regular immigrantion implies assimilation and intergration
The natives were overrun by a foreign horde, without any rule or law that regulated that movement, much like Europe is now.
These "refugees" are not immigrants, but a parasite swarm.
>>55827697
"The mirror test" is a means of offing yourself more or less. One can only survive by hypocrisy. Killing others where you would have begged for forgiveness is the only means by which you can guarantee your safety.
Peace is sleeping while marauders sharpen their knives for war
Peace is vulnerability
Peace is death.
War is preparation.
War is defense.
War is progress.
War is life.
No man has ever preserved his liberty or his family by peace.
>>55828080
The native Americans didn't sell their land for shiny beads. They were massacred like the people in parice and forced to live in shitholes no one else wanted.
>>55828223
and Germany has never done anything wrong in the history of man, lmao, weak ass bait.
>>55827697
How the fuck can these retards try and use the filthy Natives as a pro-immigration argument? Isn't the point you're making the opposite of the one you want to be making? Isn't saying "letting tons of foreigners flood your country will destroy your people" exactly the big anti-immigration argument? And, fuck, the Natives tried to fight us off but they were savages so they got rekt. Basically you're retarded mate.
>>55828284
>founding fathers
That gang of rich white men that where into human pets and ebony rape?
Btw, I was talking about the mass immigration that followed.
>implying the majority of Native Americans weren't absolutely fascinated by the white man and his really cool stuff, seeking to understand our culture just as much as we were seeking to catalog theirs.
>>55828223
because they are subhumans. america was built by the hands of white europeans, there was nothing here prior except trees. and we arent migrants, were settlers.
>>55828622
this mate. checkmate muhammad.
>Injuns get shit on by immigrants
>DURR WHY DONT YOU WANNA ALLOW UNCHECKED IMMIGRATION
Literally retarded.
>>55827697
Moozlim shitskin detected
>>55827697
What I don't get is how faggots can't tell the difference between "conquerors and colonists" and "immigrants". Even in your own language a distinction is drawn between the English, Germans, and other Europeans who founded, settled, and expanded the American nation (Siedler) and the fucking shit-skinned, welfare-dependent parasite criminals (Migranten und Flüchtlingen) who are destroying Europe and the outposts of Europe in the New World.
>>55827912
LMFAO!!!!! AHAHAHAHA
We conquered those fucking redskins("native" americans) and kicked them out like they did to the former inhabitants of North America!
http://genetics.med.harvard.edu/reich/Reich_Lab/Welcome_files/nature14895_Skoglund_2015.pdf
These tobacco smoking fucks killed off a whole 2 continents of aboriginals who got their first before we put them in their place.
Then we imported you poor yurofuckers to work in our factorys when we industrialized so we could kick your asses in ww1 and ww2 and have cheap labor from your dumb irrelevant farmer populations from italy to finland.
Problem hanz?
>>55827697
Immigrants !== Conquerors
>>55827697
>the instinct of self-preservation baffles me
because you're a kek
>>55828472
They were massacred and forced into Oklahoma after they attacked us because they realized they had sold their land for worthless beads and shit and wanted it back.
>>55828622
>Basically you're retarded mate.
Basically Americans aren't any better than sandniggers. That is the point. You faggots were what those people from the Balkans and Africa are today. Poor assholes looking for a better live.
>>55827697
>buh buh buh
Those immigrants were of European stock and as such all got along and blended in which one and other.
>what will those Muslims supposedly do with us?
Rape and kill indiscriminately, as they're doing now. How are you confusing white compassion with Muslim barbarity? We're ideologically separate.
>>55828743
This, fucking hilarious.
>>55828645
Did you learn that from one of those infamous Texas school books?
>>55827697
Drown yourself brainwashed faggot/turkish faggot.
You're more likely a brainwashed german faggot. Germany is finished.
Learn from the Native Americans, don't let foreners in with open arms unless you want your entire civilzation destroyed.
>>55827697
So what laws did we break again?
Which Indian city did we move to steal their jobs and leech of their welfare?
>>55827912
>the native american would also want a flood of NIGGERS and fanatical durkas in addition to white people
use your brain
>>55828223
>Yeah and they dispelled the natives, stole their shit and treated them like subhumans.
Just like the Natives killed each-other, stole their shit and treat the settlers like walking plunder.
>they also m-muh African slaves
Who were both released and offered their own home in Liberia, but they refused because taking massa's thick cock is better than living in Coontown.
>>55827912
This just shows how destructive illegal immigration is.
I mean look at the native americans, they went from dominating America to living in reservations getting drunk on mouthwash.
>>55829021
This
>>55828641
>ebony rape
Take some time away from pornhub Adolf
>>55827697
>What will those muslims supposedly do with us?
- Execute those they don't like (Most likely men of fighting age and homosexuals),
- The ones they let live will have to pay the christian tax
>>55828875
>You faggots were what those people from the Balkans and Africa are today. Poor assholes looking for a better live.
No they weren't, namely they were civilised, white and hard-working.
>>55828943
>Rape and kill indiscriminately, as they're doing now.
There have been hundreds of thousands of Turks living in Germany since the 50's. And there has no raping and plundering going on. Yes, there are a quite a few low lifes amongst them but I also know a lot of decent ones.
And I actually am kind happy there is a certainy ammount of foreigners in this country because it ensures that those fucking nazis will never come back.
>>55827697
Why do you assume that the was US is alone in this? Do you really believe that Latin Americans had perfect relations with Indians?
>>55827697
>>55827912
>>55828080
>mfw Germans
The native Americans are a good example why we shouldn't let in spics and muzzies, we'll end up extinct like them
>muh land
Maybe they shouldn't have blown so hard at war and diplomacy then, it's ours fair and square now
>nation of immigrants
That's funny coming from the continent that endlessly bitches "I hate muh heritage American fags ur not yurupeen"
Make up your fucking mind
>>55829076
>getting drunk on mouthwash
This is something I never understood. Mouthwash is much more expensive than hard liquor when you consider the alcohol/price ratio.
Dont be fools. If the british had not colonized america it would be no better than the entire african continent by now. Filled with nothing and just a bunch of shit.
>>55827697
our ancestors conquered them, it is our duty to honour them. Sure that does not sound tolerant and inclusive but that is the way the world works. The alternative is what you are living in. Good luck getting a jap to cry about their ancestors conquest and genocide of the Ainu. No fucks given just like arab slavemasters putting groids to purpose since the 7th century, you can either aggrandize your people or hate them, human beings are incapable of balance so take your pick, I would go with the option that is beneficial to you and yours like any non-retard
>>55827697
Nations rise, nations fall, People conquer, people are conquered, cultures come and cultures go, this is the way of the world. So it has been since the dawn of civilization. We all have our day in the sun then fade into the night. You know this better than most Deutschland. It will never change.
>>55829021
Yup.
Saying I'm responsible for the destruction of the Native population is saying that this dude, who will see more money than my white ass ever will, is held back by because slavery.
It's not a matter of being morally consistent. It's a matter of declaring laws and enforcing them.
The Injuns miserably failed.
We don't want them to turn around and go home because of some moral conundrum. That's ridiculous. We want them to turn around and go home because they're terrified.
I don't give a shit if some liberal fag with a German proxy screams, "hypocrisy!"
>>55829340
>Do you really believe that Latin Americans had perfect relations with Indians?
No, but they do not shitpost here as much.
>>55829259
The rate of crimes solved in 2010 was 56 percent, a record high, up from 2009's 55.6%.[2]
Internet related crime climbed 8.1 percent in 2010, with around 224,000 reported cases.[2] The number of homes broken into in 2010 was also up by 6.6 percent.[2]
Objectively untrue, try again. Better yet don't, continue down this path and remember whilst your people are dying and you, yourself are guilty of betrayal that you stuck by your values and never turned to da ebul nazis for help.
>saving pictures of people being beaten up
How prejudice, bigotted, racist, etc
>>55829453
And if the anglos had the good sense to catch all the african niggers and relocate them to Australia now Africa would be the garden of Eden and we'd have no Australian shitposters.
>>55829632
Or Aussies for that matter too.
>>55827697
Difference is that the migrants in question today aren't bringing better technology, and science. They offer nothing and are nothing but a drag on an already overburdened welfare state.
Mfw op's mom gets raped by immigrants
>>55827697
You're moronic beliefs have completely unhinged you.
You deserve what you'll get.
>>55829449
Don't ask me anon, I never understood it either.
>>55829632
>why do Americans post on an American website hosted in America
Go back to K(uck)rautchan you fucking troglodyte
>>55828080
kek
>>55827697
Cant even come up with a counter argument can you schultz?
>>55828796
>>55827912
>>55827697
I never understood why leftists thought this was a good argument. While they advocate for Immigration they provide proof that the native peoples will get shafted in the long term.
>>55829640
What do you do for a living? I am really interested in how people like you manage to survive.
>>55827697
the natives are basically wildlife
they died because of their inability to innovate, and inferior genes
nothing of worth existed here before european colonization
>>55829849
Pretty much m8, just more standard feel good cognitive dissonance.
>>55829862
You have no counter-argument so instead you opt for the route of
>if you say [thing I don't like] I'll call you [bad thing]
Pathetic, honestly. I work for an advertising company.
What do you do? Sit on the dole post-graduating your gender studies course and whine about the white men not giving you a free pass?
>>55828141
No, because you can't reason with ISIS. They could just say that all old ruins were actually Muslim, like niggers do, or completly ignore them, but instead they destroy their heritage, also like niggers. ISIS isn't reasonable or smart enough to rule like the Abbasids or Ummayads
Germany committed colonial crimes of its own. Ever heard of the Herero Genocide?
>>55829449
You can't buy liquor on most reservations and sometimes it's too much trouble to go to the off-rez liquor store.
>>55830149
some people just like fresh breath while they drink :)
>>55827697
>for economic reasons
We left because we were being murdered for believing in different version of the skylord meme made up by juden
Gerkeks are just as ignorant as the days when we fucking left as to why people gtfo their lands
>still replying to the anglo shitposter
Pls ignore him.
>>55829259
Well, now that you've confirmed you're a filthy Turk no one will take you seriously(but no one was anyone).
>>55828875
We worked hard killing, stealing land, growing crops, building factories, creating vaccines, making the internet that you are shitposting on. We were better placed than those Balkan and African nigs. We learned how to fucking use the land, you twat. I thought that Germans of all people would know efficiency.
>>55830351
Thought it was him. Sage
>>55830402
aren't we all someone? Anyways i enjoy OP's random shitpost general, im trying to sharpen my bantz
>>55829849
You just have to understand that leftists are about being "holier than thou" without actually having to do work to do anything good.
80% of leftism is simple vanity. That's why so many celebrities go for it, because "let's be nice to everyone" is just an easy opinion to have and you won't be called a bad person for it.
That's why it's necessary to make sure to point out that leftists are the ones causing the rape and the murder that muslims are doing.
Point out to leftists that they're the pieces of shit responsible for the Paris attack.
>>55827697
I'm fine with immigration, but there must be a system in place to handle the waves of asylum-seekers.
You can't have people entering a country illegally, just because they refuse to be patient.
Their requests must be scrutinized through an official process.
What happened to the Native Americans is a human tragedy. It devastated entire societies.
>>55829259
>because it ensures that those fucking nazis will never come back
lol, if anything those foreigners will be what brings da ebil nazis back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anYi5cvsq9U
I'm surprised there are any people quite as retarded as you that can still use the internet.
>>55827697
>>55827912
Fuck off you leftist parasite. The US imigrants IMPROVED the country, what mudslimes are doing is the opposite.
>>55830554
Yes and 100% of conservatives are xenophobic, money grubbing fools incapable of understanding science.
Conservatives are the culture of conformity. Either become like us or die. There's nothing remotely human about them. The fact that these idiots still can't accept global warming is the proving point that they're fucking infidels.
We did not immigrate here, he invaded. We systematically slaughtered all Indians who refused to move on, just as they did to the Clovis people when they crossed the land bridge and entered North America. There is nothing "Native" about Native Americans.
Indians were smashing each other's brains out years before any white man came on to Indian lands. The idea that guns turned them violent, or capitalism for that matter, is ridiculous. They've committed genocide on the Clovis people, and they killed each other for years.
I wish every self hating white guilt infested retard would watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1y_0NfhF9c
This is one of the few red pilled stories on the Indians out there. And to be clear, I'm not saying we didn't slaughter the Indians. We did, and we did it on a mass scale to take land. But to say we are the only ones who should feel bad is retarded. Every country has killed someone to get what they believe is theirs. France killed the Gauls, Europe as a whole used to belong to countless barbarian tribes. Should they feel bad about taking their land from them? Fuck no, the winner wins all. The Indians lost, and they have chosen to devote what little life they have left to crying over shit they themselves are guilty of.
>>55831017
Yea they improved it after they got done murdering and raping the people there. Enjoy the taste of your own treatment guys.cause afterwards comes the slavery.
>>55828963
You mean correct Texas school books?
Just because you are ignorant doesn't mean the world is.
>>55828832
This. Thats why we have the phrase Indian giver. For people who change their minds and want their stuff back.
>>55831540
>>55831540
>>55831540
>>55831540
>>55831540
What now hanz?
>>55827697
>>55827912
Listen to the wise Bosnian, Germany.
>>55828417
>>55831570
Alright no need to get angry. Just a bit of hyperbole.
For leftists it's about 40% brainwashing 20% emotional pandering 40% vanity.
For rightists it's about 50% brainwashing 10% emotional pandering 15% vanity 25% rational though.
p.s. Fuck you for all those rapes and murders you caused by supporting diversity.
>>55830068
>>55829862
I guess I hit a nerve, eh?
>>55828035
>hated civilization
Who can blame them? :^)
>>55828671
>le white master race
>>55828796
There's still debate about whether the Indians were the first humans on the continent.
>>55829066
The natives at times were awful to settlers but the majority of carnage was perpetrated by the white Americans.
Those not learning from history are forced to repeat it. Do you want to end up like the natives?
>>55830010
>inferior genes
*tips fedora*
>>55827697
There was no country in North America before the Europeans came, they didn't immigrate.
>>55830554
Nice stereotype there.
>>55827697
Nah just kill us off,rape our women,wait 9 months until their children are born and then kill the women.
>>55827697
immigrants aren't the problem, the problem is that everyone but Europeans are savages.
>>55832297
>right wing
>rational
>generalizing into left and right
>>55827697
Not immigrants. Colonists. There is a difference.
So your argument Hans is that your country is importing colonists. At least the Indians tried to fight back against the those taking their land. Your country does nothing but punish your people for asking questions.
No, you will not be relocated. You will be killed. You will be enslaved.
>>55827697
Someone explain to me the logic behind that picture. Do they think that holding two contradictory opinions means that anyone who disagrees becomes a hypocrite?
If they want their land back. Fine, they can have it. But we want our beads back.
And no they can't keep the buildings, streets, power, etc. We'll be bulldozing that shit.
>>55827697
When the settlers came to America there was no America though. They were pioneers. They built their own cities and roads.
There's a difference between pioneering and conquering in the old days, and just "migrating" to an established area to leech off government benefits.
WE WERE ALL IMMIGRANT
I AM FROM MEXICO BUT AM AMERICAN
FUCk the racist. You cry when Muslims kill a few people but when White boy shoots up an Americen church you cheer.
Hippocrite HIPPOCRITE
>>55828223
Stole their shit? The natives had nothing to steal. We stole their land, and we PRESERVED their tribes, who still live on to this day.
Can't say the same about the Natives, who massacred each other constantly, stole each others land constantly, and even made some tribes go extinct.
Not so peaceful anymore, are they?
>>55833892
....thats totally false. Several colonial camps were built on native villages and the natives had roads and shit.
>>55834068
Dey wuz kings
>>55833966
Shit pic
"native" americans are not aboriginal to the america though
>>55833571
>>55833571
>>55833571
>>55833571
>>55833571
>>55827912
The Indian tribes did not constitute a recognizable government, nor did they have the concept of sovereign territory that was known to the Old World.
So, no. The pilgrims were not illegal immigrants because they were not breaking the law of a sovereign government by immigrating.
The Indians were barbarian tribes whose cohesion was primarily social, not territorial or legal.
>>55833892
Also if the Muslims took over they wouldn't allow us nice little settlements where they'd give us Casinos, free booze and generally treat us well enough.
They'd murder us in the most brutal way possible while cheering.
>>55834068
A trail leading to your tipis ain't a road, tonto.
>>55834192
I am not saying colonialist didn't do work its just that the concept that NA was just uncultivated wilderness is not the case.
>>55827697
They'll come under the pretense of live-and-let-live, but without fail every wave will contain some amount of Religious Nationalists who won't think twice about breaking the law to send a message that Islamic ideals rule the neighborhood now. And when there's enough of them? They won't have to break the law, they'll just change it.
>This all seems strangely familiar, doesn--
Yes, yes, I get your point. But to be quite honest I don't even know if I believe what I'm typing. One thing is for certain: I'm not anti-immigration, I'm anti-theocracy.
>>55833966
Go back and start building the wall jose. Illegal immigration didn't exist back then you uneducated fuck.
>>55834336
>tipi
>not teepee
Don't give in to the PC spelling.
>>55832297
No conservatives have 0 rationality:
1)still care more about religion than fucking people
2) still don't believe in something scientifically proven
Not one ounce of rationality involved. Dump that 25% into emotional pandering (Make America great again!, deport all immigrants!, Tax Cuts for the 1%). And drop the vanity from liberals into rationality. They're the side of cold hard logic. (fuck religion love who you want and get married we don't give a shit, poor people are dying because no healthcare have some healthcare).
The left are the only ones capable of doing what government was created to do originally. Protect the fucking people
>>55834448
>>55828796
They've found some skeletons from Brazil which are similar to Abos and such(Luzia). It's possible that somehow they managed to cross the pacific but since their genetic signal or skeletons aren't found in North America, Injuns could still be the first natives of that part of the world.
>>55834384
What what I read in NatGeo the Indians didn't mess with the land much or cultivate much.
They didn't clear trees for example or anything the settlers did.
Not saying thats inherently bad because living in harmony with the land is cool but they didn't do much development imo.
I mean if I was a liberal I would still side with them and say its their land but I am a realist and the world isn't a easy place or a sissy soft flower so strong beat the weak get over it.
This generation is so pussified and doesn't have any memory of what life used to be like and how hard it was to build what he have or had.
My ancestors left their homes for economic reasons to come here. Through mass immigration they then destroyed Native American culture and their way of life.
The plight of Native Americans is the greatest argument AGAINST immigration. Immigration genocided the natives.
>>55827697
>>55827912
>tribals with no concept of immigration or states
>tribals who's constant migration from one area to another involved displacing resident natives
Dirtworshiper, plz.
>>55834871
The French destroyed the original native English language and culture, but no one sheds any tears about that.
>>55827697
>white immigrate
>bring advancement with them
>Muslims immigrate
>destroy technology and want to go backwards
>>55834448
>still don't believe in something scientifically proven
You mean like
>all races are the same regardless of the fact that blacks behave the same way everywhere in the entire world and we have to ban anyone that disagrees
>omg university needs to be my safe space without any other ideas allowed
>diversity is our strength, even though every piece of evidence shows it only hurts society
>assault guns be scary even if they're barely ever used for violence
>think of the mass shootings that barely even register on murder numbers
>wanting to chop off your dick is perfectly sane, wanting to protect your children from Islamic child rapists is a mental illness
>They're the side of cold hard logic.
>fuck religion
Religion has held society together for a long time, kept families together and the birthrate strong. It makes the plebs happy.
>love who you want and get married we don't give a shit
Yeah, there's no actual benefit to gay marriage or marriage at all without a family, it just degrades marriage more than it already is. That's the 20% emotional pandering for you.
>poor people are dying because no healthcare have some healthcare
Let's make poor people stay poor because the 80 year old needs 100,000$ of government money to lay in bed for a few more years.
Shaniqua needs mo money for her 10 kids.
Abortion is pretty good though. America would be in a lot worse shape right now without it.
>>55835477
Our technology hurts us.
We are stuck to our TV's stuck to our iphones.
Muslims communities are in harmony. Everyone connected.
Maybe we need to get rid of our technology... ever thought of that? Or does your TV mean so much to you?
>>55835680
>merkel
too obvious
>>55835930
German OP (faggot) has been posting this same thread for months.
American Indians tend to be:
Part or outright "white"
Anti-gay
Anti-black
and despite being "related" to them: Anti-hispanic and asian.
Another group that is anti-immigrant: American NigGaZ
>>55827697
Before the Europeans got there, there was no America, it was a wilderness with scattered tribes who waged war amongst themselves to a level that was almost art. What the fuck is wrong with people like you that you cannot see differences and contexts, it's always pure black and white, you really are retarded.
>>55837000
Apparently they are. Also, when did winning wars against inferior peoples become something to be ashamed of?
The indians should be glad it was Europeans who conquered them. If it had been Asians or Africans, they would have exterminated the worthless Amerind trash. At least Europeans allowed them to live. Sooner or later, some more advanced people would have reached North America. Lucky for them it was us.
>>55827697
Hey you leftist fag, you guys always like to pull out the injen card when we're ant immigrant. How exactly does it help your argument? They were displaced my uncontrolled migration from a foreign and incompatible culture. The exact thing we fear. Fuck off back to reddit you pleb.
>>55828113
>no one is against immigration
Fuck off. No immigration except from First World countries, PERIOD!
>>55835680
Who bothers watching TV anymore, gramps?
Native Americans are our genetic inferiors so in the long run it's simply better for humanity that they were supplanted. That said they didn't have a real nation of any sort and sold us their land anyway. We accepted white immigrants since we needed to grow as a nation to compete with European countries.
>>55839785
There is this station called FoxNews sonny.
Us old guys are more red-pilled then anyone else.
>>55829259
Did you meet those nice immigrants in your Hauptschule?
>>55827697
Americans built this country to get away from the Catholics. Also, the natives here couldn't do shit against the Europeans. Nowadays we could destroy the illegals, but we're held back by the idiots among us. Why didn't the indians roll out an extensive welfare benefits plan for the white man? Racist, much?
>>55829076
The indians didn't "dominate" anything. They were primitive hunter/gatherers with a tiny bit of agriculture. Meanwhile, Europe brought TECHNOLOGY.
>>55829814
Lol, attention whore
>>55827697
If the Red Indians think things are tough now wait till the Muslims take over and they are shown even further down the totem pole.
