How powerful is ISIS?
Do they have the power of a small country?
>>55820520
Allah is on their side.
>>55820613
Probably as powerful as Syria and Iraq
>no shit
Any non-failed state could crush them easily.
50,000~ jihadists or more in the Middle East.
Hundreds of armored cars
Hundreds of flatbed trucks with mounted guns
less than 200 tanks
dozens of APC
Handful of aircraft (although none reportedly used yet)
They control an area containing around 10 million people in the Middle East.
and if propaganda is to believed, between dozens and hundreds join every day.
>>55820520
More powerful than many countries.
>>55820520
They have a larger military than Ireland and probably most smaller european countries
>>55820520
Probably more powerful than Mexico.
>>55820613
so that's why israel is so strong. that explain so many things...
They're basically US-trained and funded private military. So yeah, they could easily topple governments, but at the moment they're fighting a war on many different fronts and contested by the world's superpowers, so it's not going that well for them.
They're motivated, trained and most importantly furious. They fight like a rabid dog, they're not tactical but can easily cause massive damage to a force which isn't prepared for them.
They shouldn't be underestimated. Any well-trained US/Russian/NATO-soldier can beat ISIS-troops 1v1, but in larger numbers they'll just keep coming and defence would get overrun.
The best way to beat them is with airstrikes, since while it is cowardly, they can't fight back.
>>55821818
Yeah, that might change soon.
Militarily they're less powerful than any country
But they've something other countries do not have :
the willingness to take arms, and they don't fear war (their soldiers on the front do fear death though).
They have a fucking cause they think is worth fighting for and that's what makes them stronger.
Proof of that ? Any coalition country could easily defeat them militarily, and this is a fucking COALITION of all the most powerful WESTERN NATIONS.
And yet ISIS is not defeated yet.
Why ? Because everyone knows that if you actually send soldiers, you may defeat them militarily, but you'll be in deep political shit thereafter (see the Americans in Irak).
So yeah. The real problem is not how powerful they are; it's that other countries do not dare to face them directly.
And I'm not even talking about diplomacy in the Coalition itself which further slows down any attempt at military action.
>>55820520
it takes thousands of manpower, engineering, resources, logistics etc. to build a car. it takes one guy with a stone to break it.
it doesn't mean that the guy with the stone is more powerful.
why do you think they care so much about the videos of beheadings and they attacked paris and not a small village.
it's about the perception of success. everyone wants to be in the bandwagon.
if I learned something from feminism and SJW is how narratives work.
>>55820520
>Do they have the power of a small country?
Yes they do, they have the Power of Israel on their side.
If the US went ham they would be destroyed in days. Their only strength is that they can hide among civilians, which means it will end up with door to door fighting which is the most risky. Or a bomb dropped killing 10 ISIS members but also 20 civilians, and the hundreds of relatives to those 20 civilians turn into fresh ISIS recruits. Never ending cycle unless the civilians they hide among actually starts resisting too.
If ISIS tried a military invasion of some country close by like Israel they would get annihilated.
>>55820520
Send in the Zetas
Everyone here is over exaggerating ISIS's power.
They are literally nothing.
Sure, i'd be worried if I was living in Europe where everything is connected to and easily accessible.
However I'm not worried because the only thing near America and Canada are massive amounts of fucking water.
I see a small little boat with an ISIS flag on it getting sunk the moment it gets noticed by either countries.
ISIS have absolutely 0% chance of making it to Canada or America.
>>55823770
>literally nothing
>killing thousands
Did all that weed fry your brain or something?
0/10 troll bud.
No, they are over-rated by jewish media
supported by the west (As Israel)
and can't properly run anything
Thay simply are the " Nihilists " as Albert Pike said in a famous letter to Giuseppe Mazzini.
>>55820520
>360,000 fighters and allied fighters(those that swore allegiance abroad) globally of which 200,000 are in Syria and Iraq.
>16mn people under their control in Syria and Iraq.
>$2bn monthly income from legal and illegal means.
>6700 recruits a month from across the world.
>Has its own social and government systems based on Sharia law from taxes and governors to schools and police forces.
>Situated in many countries from Syria and Iraq to Libya and Malaysia.
>Officially most widespread,destructive,largest and richest terrorist organisation in history.
These guys aren't going anywhere. This is the fight of a generation.
This all came about because of American interference in the Middle East. These fighters that are fighting for them right now are those kids you saw smiling and waving when American and British troops entered Baghdad and Basra in 2003.
Let that sink in for a moment.
>>55823770
moderate muslims in North America have a chance to be radicalized when they see their actions overseas. And don't forget the 25000 Syrian refugees Trudeau is letting in, one of the Paris attackers rode the refugee train to get to Paris
>>55820520
They have won the hearts and minds of the area they occupy. Therefor the solution is nukes.
Lol so ISIS has aircrafts even just a few, yet they cannot pilot any of them? Kek
>>55823285
The US actually tried for 11 years and failed
US Army acted like evolution on these people, leaving alive only the most determined and bloodthirsty sandniggers. America has also turned previously fractured islamic terrorism into a global brand - the black flag of IS will not go away in our lifetimes.
It's easy, if you go to them with an army they will just leave their tanks and keep a low profile again.
>>55821914
Well have the most powerful army in L.A so if that's true they are a superpower
>>55820613
that's a really weird way of spelling MOSSAD
>>55823925
They are killing thousands because the west is letting them, remember what happened to al quaida?
>>55823770
there is a difference between last year ISIS to nowdays
if they taken over entire countries im assuming they have enough forces to invade to a modern country
>>55823424
You are my 78th unique flag for today, and for that I thank you.
>>55820520
No. They are not powerful at all.
Think about it. If they were powerful why does Israel still exist?
>>55823424
Send in z
>>55824153
>moderate muslims in North America have a chance to be radicalized when they see their actions overseas
That's whats scary desu.
>25000 Syrian refugees Trudeau is letting
jfc trudeau
>>55824400
I haven't been following much, isn't Russia pounding ISIS hard?
>>55823770
Over inflating their importance, makes it seem like politicians are needed.
>>55824470
huh? israel has nukes.
>>55824396
Yeah we fucked up.
Our military is partially corrupt, there are tons of traitors inside of it and hopefully they've wised up about it.
That being said, it's still everyone elses responsibility to help with this unless you want your own countries attacked as well.
>>55824076
>This all came about because of American interference in the Middle East.
If only the British public had made it clear it didn't want to be involved in that invasion and the UN had made it clear it was illegal...oh wait.
>>55824277
Most powerful in Latin America = superpower. Oh, please tell me more about your delusions.
>>55821703
Dude, that's more powerful than most single European nations.
![ISIS1-400x403[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QcTPbCM.jpg "ISIS1-400x403[1].jpg")
>>55823770
>>55824076
>These guys aren't going anywhere
>get shat on the moment the gloves come off and Russia starts bombing them
>losing territory left and right
>>55823770
>ISIS have absolutely 0% chance of making it to Canada or America.
Just like Al-Qaeda in 2001 you retarded asshole.
>>55823925
Killing thousands of other brown people so who gives a fuck
>>55823424
**BASED** ZETAS
>>55824504
russia is taking on ISIL which is the sinai part of ISIS
my point is that fightning terrorists isn't easy as you think, they build caves and tunnels underground and make alot of pincher moves/ambushes,im not saying its gonna be taliban all over again but might be with the funding they are getting
>>55824909
They're not going anywhere, though. It'll turn into an Afghanistan situation even if the country is "fully controlled" by Assad.
>>55824945
Not with todays security in airports
>>55821703
Who trained them to drive a fucking tank?
>>55822712
What game plz advise.
They have the power of the USA standing behind them
>>55822712
This, pretty much. Over the years, the average citizen in the West has grown comfortable and complacent, and generally just lazy. They've lived through decades of peace, where war never came to them. These ISIS pricks, on the other hand, many of them were born into war and battle-torn shitholes, where conflict would happen every day. What they have over us, is they're fiercely committed, united and they are not lazy.
Even our leaders are indecisive cowards at this point. This goes for us, as well, because instead of going out and trying to make a difference, all we do is shitpost memes and complain on an imageboard. Until there is a fundamental change in the Western mindset, there isn't much we can do.
>>55824945
>AL-Mossad-A
Just ask any Anglos here, they know it.
IS = Eternal Anglo.
>>55825087
Who the fuck cares about airplanes?
It's completely possible to travel to america, buy a gun illegally and start a massacre. Not to mention the fact that you guys have a fucking huge muslim population already which can radicalize any day now, they don't need to come from Syria.
>>55822394
I thought most Muslim immigrants went to Sweden instead of Finland.
>>55825055
>It'll turn into an Afghanistan situation
If by that you mean a bunch of drug-lords having control over small areas of the country where they grow and sell their drugs, then yes. But once the west decides to actually deal with them no organized Jihadist movement will survive
>>55825096
ISIS are remnants of Saddam's army,. you fucking moron.
>>55825087
this is nowhere close to true, canada gives up freedom for no security.
you are no ally of ours.
>>55825096
the USA
>>55825096
I'm sure a lot of them have former military experience and can train others
ITT: IS cocksucking
Only other muslims can defeat ISIS. No one else can. Westerns can bomb all they want but it will only increase sympathy for them. The amount of gear and weaponry doesn't matter. Any muslim can be easily radicalised since muslims are taught to give Islam more importance than anything in the world.
Only a nuke on mecca by other muslims will stop this madness since it will prove no god exists.
>>55824954
>hurr who gives a fuck no fucks given xD
>hurr they're only killing shit skins
kill yourself retard.
>>55822712
>And yet ISIS is not defeated yet.
>Why ?
Because the west wants to topple Asad, are you retarded or something?
![dune2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4cG72D7.jpg "dune2[1].jpg")
>>55825183
this
Your face when you just realized Frank Herbert predicted everything in Dune
Fremen = ISIS
even right down to both being muslims
>>55825285
They do. I'm just stating facts man, they shouldn't be underestimated. You guys understimated the viet-cong, remember what happened?
Respect your enemy, above all else.
>>55823424
it must be a pain to get internet service in that mudhut of yours
>>55825366
>Only other muslims can defeat ISIS.
So, ISIS will never be defeated.
>>55825366
you dont even know what you are talking about
>>55824277
Actually you dont.
We do.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=mexico&country2=brazil&Submit=COMPARE
>>55825444
Well, they're zensunni, but yeah pretty close.
They're fairly powerful, against a 3rd world military. But if the military uses chemical weapons like nerve gas, and has air superiority, then isis are in big trouble!
>>55825366
russia is going to use robots to fight them very soon so no I don't expect them to win at this point.
the only thing they have going for them is being able to gain sympathy from liberals and become sleeper cells inside other nations.
>>55820520
Our intelligence that claims ISIS is "contained" says around 15-20k. But other intelligence and groups that actually are closer to the the mess say around 200k.
>>55825366
the coalition beat taliban which was arguably the most powerful terrorist organization at the time and probably more than isis
>>55825487
>le south african nations are shitholes living in huts meme
don't worry, mexico.
we'll protect you.
we'll save everyone.
but you still have to stay behind the wall
Thanks to America and their half assed invasions ISIS now has a nice stream of recruits. You guys should have gone total war or not gone at all.
>>55820613
so what you're saying is they're mentally handicapped
ISIS is at war with Syria, FSA, Kurds, and Iraq.
ISIS has the territory equivalent to what the Syrians or Iraqi's have.
>>55823424
I'm pretty sure ISIS would anally rape any drug cartel.
>>55825555
Quads of truth.
>>55825681
Nigeria isn't in south Africa, you fucking dunce.
>>55825183
>This goes for us, as well, because instead of going out and trying to make a difference, all we do is shitpost memes and complain on an imageboard.
Speak for yourself.
I'm ready to go kick some doors in and shoot some Wahabbis, when the time comes.
>>55825673
Dude, the Taliban is still there fucking shit up in Afghanistan.
>>55824909
Losing territory?
They've gained territory in Syria. The siege of Mosul by 50,000 Kurds and Iraqis was scheduled to begin last April. As you can tell they are STILL nowhere near that objective.
Russia is focusing on Al Nusra and FSA not ISIS.
>>55825858
>le italians are niggers of europe
>>55820520
As powerful as Israel I imagine
>>55825672
>Beat
Lol
I guess you didn't read the recent news where US officials said they consider Taliban important partners for reconciliation and are ready to negotiate with them.
>>55823424
Confirmed. As an anon who lives in a border state with mexico, Los zetas does not fuck around.
>>55825875
yeah you see what im saying
but taliban don't want to conquer like ISIS which is different
They are everywhere , in all country obviously in USA too .
They want too colonise us with their children
>>55824076
I wonder what would make them join ISIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YzH1GQI2Bg
>>55825096
CIA
>>55821224
Then why havent you America?
>>55825106
filename
>>55825096
A fucking TM.
>>55825452
>You guys understimated the viet-cong, remember what happened?
The Viet-Cong existed in name only when America bailed?
Respecting your enemy and lapping up propaganda is not the same thing.
>>55826102
>but taliban don't want to conquer like ISIS which is different
that's going to the their undoing.
>>55825452
vietcong against ISIS. who wins?
>>55825096
kekkle
>>55825935
>They've gained territory in Syria.
They have lost far more than they have gained in the last half year, and that is not even touching their losses in Iraq.
>>55825096
Mercenaries
>>55824760
I think he means Los Angelos.
>>55825561
He means LA California obviously m
absolutely, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etc without outside help will get overrun easily by IS.
>>55825935
>Russia is focusing on Al Nusra and FSA not ISIS.
Wat
Is this really true?
If so, I can use it against the shitposters claiming the US to fund ISIS
All you had to do was leave Saddam alone, Murrika.
>>55827662
Swing by the syrian war general and wait for a fresh map of the strikes to be posted.
>>55825867
The time has come. Quit talking shit and do something, Texan.
>>55826406
>Crushing our creation
We don't touch our toys
>>55827662
Russian airstrikes are almost entirely on rebel area's near Assad's territory.
>>55825404
Spotted the butt hurt shit skin and it must sting even more knowing that I'm right and that no one gives a damn about mudslimes killing other mudslimes
>>55820520
They are fanatics that don't give a fuck about there live. End times cult. Weak and pathetic, contained in Syria trying to drag every one in to a war. best thing is to nuke the place and show every aspiring group what happens when they fuck with the wrong people.
make statement. Shoot thermonuclear weapons and glass the area. Write off who ever was against them as collateral damage.
>>55820520
Fuck ISIS
ISIS are nothing but a bunch of little faggots.
Muricans could wipe em out if they searched hard enough/nuked the sandniggers
>>55827904
>Quit talking shit and do something
No boots on the ground, buddy. I have to wait for the POTUS to start a war, and then for my unit to be Federalized and sent in.
>>55825867
>When the time comes
That time being never. Faggot.
>>55827936
>>55828155
Why haven't you signed up for specwar?
>>55825096
call of duty
The problem is not Syria guys , they are everywhere for attack and kill us .
Sry but all muslim can be Potential ISIS terrorist , not a joke
Hypothetically, how dangerous would ISIS become if they figured out how to use the aircraft they have captured?
Is it all old tech that could be blown up from a mile away?
>>55828603
You don't realize the amount of training, qualifications, and resources that go into being an effective pilot.
>>55820520
excuse me for caps lock but this has to be read:
HAVE YOU EVER FUCKING PLAYED COMMAND AND CONQUER GENERALS?
HAVE YOU EVER FUCKING PLAYED AS OR AGAINST THE GLA?
THOSE FUCKERS DONT HAVE A SINGLE BASE
THOSE FUCKERS DONT SETTLE IN ONE POINT AND LIVE THERE
THEY FUCKING GO INVISIBLE EVERYWHERE
THEY APPEAR OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE
THEY DIG A TUNNEL INSIDE YOUR OWN FUCKING BASE/HOMELAND AND 50 UNITS APPEAR OUT OF THE FUCKING BLUE TO FUCK UP YOUR BASE WITH SUICIDE BOMBS
IF YOU LET 1 MISERABLE FUCKING SLAVE GO AWAY, THAT ASSHOLE WILL RECONSTRUCT IN ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING TIME AT ALL
THEY DONT REQUIRE ENERGY POWER
UNLIMITED MONEY FROM BLACK MARKETS
>>55828713
>hypothetically
The problem was we let them ivade us , they are maybe 15% in Europe , Can they all go in Ukraine ?? Try to negociate with putin pls
if IS were really that tough they wouldent be dressing up as women to run away when shit gets tough.
Theyre experts at bluffing.
Anyone could walk into a city in america or europe with a gun and kill people randomly, thats not organized terrorism, the whole thing is bullshit
>>55828026
you just ignored my argument all together nice bud.
they're not killing just shit skins faggot so go fuck yourself you liberal faggot going HURR DURR WHO CARES MANEEEEEEE
>>55828830
It's probably old equipment and their pilots would be very inexperienced, not that big of a threat against a modern powerful airforce.
>>55828745
never played.
will play now
>>55828745
Toxic tractors op
They have this guy
So will anything come of Putin agreeing to team up with America?
>>55828929
Thanks, air anon
>>55825722
Where did this map come from?
>>55824453
You need to go outside, neckbeard.
I have a dream guyz .. An europe with 0 Arab/muzz
USA you dont know nothing about arabs , they are worst than black srsly
>>55827144
>Afghanistan
what? they have to conquer iran first and even then they would have to fight against the talibans
>>55829196
http://syria.liveuamap.com/
>>55825444
Herbert exposed some serious shit about the NWO plan for Middle Eastern countries. Back in the 70s we already knew Herbert was writing about a possible conflict for oil, involving Arabs, Jews and some kind of messianic nihilist convergence.
>>55822879
>Idiots actually believe this
>>55825681
WOW THEY GOT LIGHTS AND BUILDINGS IN THE CITY THEY MUST REALLY BE DEVELOPED
>>55827733
>>55823943
No, their strand of fundamentalism has existed practically from the dawn of Islam and was partially responsible for the Sunni/Shia schism.
This is not some sort of backlash at modernity.
This is the modern iteration of something old.
>>55831316
Nice nigger meme, Sweden.
>>55826364
lol swedish kek. So what? They beat a few arabs during a war, yeah military amongst civilians is alwasy problematic. You spread your culture and values by war. Thats how it was always done. Its keks like you who wont let western forces ever finish what they start these days.
Grow a pair of balls and stop pretending we are in some magical era in history where things just happen because you have enough love in your heart.
>>55824277
You'll have to sell your army to pay for the Great Wall of Trump, Pedro. #rekt
>>55828603
You do realize you need an entire infrastructure to repair and replace aircraft parts?
Not only do you need advanced manufacturing facilities(or import), but you also need qualified personal to actually replace and maintain the aircraft and ground vehicles.
>>55831950
Plenty of ex-military thugs in ISIS command positions heeb. Lots of former Saddam era soldiers in their ranks, not to mention defectors.
>>55831349
>No, their strand of fundamentalism has existed practically from the dawn of Islam and was partially responsible for the Sunni/Shia schism.
>This is not some sort of backlash at modernity.
>This is the modern iteration of something old.
Everything comes from some preexisting stuff including media hype. The Oldest mortal foes and curses and hereditary enemies feel scarier than new ones. The power that be knows about it and plays this card to scare people.
>>55825722
>ISIS has the territory equivalent to what the Syrians or Iraqi's have.
Territory equivalent is not worth much. In some ISIS controlled areas the prices of basic essentials like flour are ridiculously high. Many people have also deserted due to unpaid wages.
The truth is that ISIS, just like the earliest Muslims, are built upon constant conquest. ISIS survived via propaganda. This fear lead to loads of well armed Iraqi troops fleeing when the Iraqi army had tanks and ISIS had Toyotas.
ISIS were fundementally built on conquest, looting, selling things like archaelogical treaures.
They are pretty much a spent force because while there is a big black market, there is not a sustainable state in place.
>>55831440
We sure as fuck could use some Sarin for our suburbs, these days.
>>55831316
who asked you, kek?
The fact that they have no Air Force and no weapons production capability of their own means they are nothing more than a terrorist group taking advantage of chaos in Syria. They cannot repair or replace their captured equipment so they don't use it. Their offensive operations in Syria and Iraq are hit and run and they are pretty much dug in waiting for an offenive either from the Kurds or Iranian, Iraqi forces which after the Kurds success will happen sooner than later. As far as global reach terror organizations are not powerful per say think about this /r9k/ users have a higher body count in the US than ISIS.
They are like cockroaches. A nuisance. Yes, they might never be eradicated, but they still die when we want to.
Even comparing them to a real country is a joke. And we joke about North Korea and Pakistan, too. They aint even worth getting mentioned with shitholes like those.
>>55825183
Oh, you think war is your ally, but you merely adopted the war. We were born in it, moulded by it. We didn’t see peace until we were already men; by then, it was nothing to us but haram!
>>55823770
Nice try Justin
>>55832668
>>55832832
>>55831950
At last....everyone has figured out that the Kebab has no Clothes.
>>55832668
>>55826406
Because they if we started attacking them they would fight a gorilla war. If america were to just say fuck it and actually start killing and invading the country making it ours we could wipe them out within a week. Of course liberals would never let us do that.
>>55831316
I miss him
>>55826892
Even the Vietcong didn't necessarily want random citizens to die. I can't say the same about ISIS.
>>55826406
America is fighting with 2 arms tied behind its back by faggy ROE.
Either that or they are too scared to drop 2 divisions into the sandbox and clear house.
>>55833168
>no Clothes
Oh they have clothes, just no flour.
I find it hilarious how in Raqqa they have the time for courts and police monitoring social activity. It is like a couple of kids playing house.
This is something that will end. Even their propaganda machine is faltering. They used to be able to constantly talk about victories, never mentioning any of their defeats. But they are through.
>>55833696
>Oh they have clothes, just no flour.
>>55820520
They have as much power as what the Saudi, Israeli, and US governments give them.
>>55828978
Just makes him easier for a drone to find
>>55823424
los CIA'S you mean?
fuck them.
>>55833254
>gorilla war
American education.
>>55835072
>canadian memes
>>55824277
stop lying
>>55833144
>Bane?
>>55828978
LEVEL 10 Boss
>>55835427
Nigger butthurt
>>55835237
Yeah hopefully the next American president does not get involved in whatever is just boiling up over there. From all the news in the last couple of years it is very unlikely for "peace," expect a lot more violence guise. Serious. I don't know how the world will react, lettuce be realty, what about North Korea?
>>55825555
dominibro
>>55836374
If only Germany was as good in politics as it is in football
>>55826176
This guy gets it.
If they will not defeat us with Terror they will defeat us with time because of the birthrates.
>>55820520
They ARE a small country
