ITT: We post our arguments against veganism/vegetarianism
Who gives a flying fuck?
>>55816092
this
but still build wall pls
>>55816092
You will when the wall is built
First present the arguements they make. How am I going to counterargue something that doesn't exist?
I belong to the Meat Party. I always vote Meat.
>>55816092
Noone expects the offspring of some pygmy native to understand compassion. Just go back to killing people and eating burritos, worthless spic.
>>55816191
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Philosophy
Since people here are stupid, I'll start.
>cant build muscle
>most vegan food tastes like ass
>need to eat fucking constanly to get enough calories
>increased risk of homosexuality
>>55816019
Eating meat seemed to work out pretty well for us in the past.
>>55816388
>increased risk of homosexuality
wat. abstaining from meat products make you gay?
Eating meat is an expression of man's place in the cosmic hierarchy. We have dominion over the beasts, and absorb their solar strength by consuming their flesh.
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=107
The link tears down the argument that it is "healthier" or even (gasp) "natural" to practice either veganism or vegetarianism. A single counterexample of a complex vitamin that we absolutely need and its source is primarily animal based food, is more than enough to go against the "medical" defense of veggies.
That leaves only the philosophical argument, and trying to "disprove" a philosophical argument is pointless to start it. I'm fine with people only eating vegetables because of their philosophy, as long as they admit it's not very healthy at all.
>>55816019
There literally isn't a single argument against it, it is not up for discussion. Meat eating is degenerate, which is why it kills you. Seems pretty clear.
>>55816637
Dominion on the beast. That's a very Christian way of looking at it.
Would you be okay with eating artificial meat, basically meat that is homegrown with no casualty? Not as poetic but the dominion over the beast aspect is gone. In a way.
>>55816019
you fagets would have to stop guzzling cum
>>55816780
Eating meat kills you. You heard it here folks.
>>55816814
I was resisting trying to make a comment about sucking on goat tits to get protein while having sex with them, but now I'm starting to wonder what you mean by not having dominion over the beast.
>>55816814
The biblical assurance of dominion is the formalisation of a situation which has existed since the birth of Man. The stone age men set out and tamed or slew any beast which faced them. Alone among the animals we are victorious, our numbers and geographical spread attest to that. Artificial meat is merely another expression of man's victory over nature.
>>55817116
There is no animal sacrifice in in vitro meat. That's what I mean. There is not even a living animal involved.
>>55816092
/thread
>>55817381
Slaughtering an animal for food is not animal sacrifice.
>>55816780
Go back to tumblr, veganshit
>>55816092
actually this is the only argument.
if you give a fuck don't kill animals, it is that easy.
>>55816092
/thread
>>55817466
I misspoke. I meant animal slaughter.
>>55817265
Sure.
The only argument against it is that eating meat is completely natural. Our species has always eaten meat, we were hunters and gatherers for thousands of years. You're slapping evolution in the face by saying no to meat.
The reaction you get when you tell a vegetarian that he/she is unnatural is hysterical. They usually go on a tirade about factory farms, but that's easily countered by saying you get your free range chicken and grass fed beef direct from a friend of the family's farm. Meanwhile, there's absolutely nothing natural about over-processed soy imitation meat products.
>>55816528
soy increases estrogen
>>55817650
Alright. Well, if you don't like it then don't do it. I don't have a problem with that. That's the American Way.
Do it by your method and perhaps I will come to see it as superior. That's also the American Way.
I would say that a good portion of vegans eat organic. Well the arguement against them is that organic vegetables are largely fertilized with chicken manure, feather meal, bone meal, blood meal ect... All organic produce is reliant on the commercial meat industry.
>>55816388
>>increased risk of homosexuality
can confirm this is true as a vegetarian homofag
>>55816019
I feel a little guilty when I think I may be hurting living beings indirectly by eating meat.
I did a report on Friday on the ethics of hunting and triggered a few in my class. One even complained to the professor about the violent imagery and video included in my presentation.
I literally triggered somebody /pol/, I did it.
>>55817837
Were you a homofag before turning vegan?
>>55816019
both are shit we are an omnivorous species.
We should normally eat at least 1 meat and 1 fish every week.
>>55817921
You're hurting a living being when you eat a plant, unless you're just picking up fruit that is ready to fall. You might even be hurting a living being when you don't milk a cow that needs to be milked.
As long as it's done humanely, I don't mind. Of course, most industrial animal farming is very inhumane. That's a much bigger problem for me.
>>55817684
it is not an argument, because natural doesn't mean morally acceptable or "good", murder and rape is natural too.
i repeat: the only argument against it is "i don't give a fuck (about animals)".
i am sick of people that try to argue over this, be honest and say you don't care enough about animals, but don't pretend you love them or you eat meat because it is natural or whatever.
>>55817940
yes
perhaps it's that homofags are more likely to become vegetarian/vegan rather than the other way around
>>55816019
>muh vegetables have more protein than meats
Yes that's true. But meat has essential protein we need that is not available from most vegetables. The fuck do you think proteins are? DNA is protein. Fucking almost everything involved in our metabokic processes involve Proteins. You can't fucking argue about shit without not even knowing the essential background knowledge
Eating corpses is LITERALLY stone age, nigger-tier sustenance; they're too stupid to even maintain basic agriculture.
Vegetable-based foods are enlightened master-race foods.
>>55818100
you eat it because you like the taste, nothing more.
also it is interesting how people who eat meat suddenly have a heart for plants if the topic is veganism.
>>55818184
Do you think this is because gay people strive to be as contrarian as possible to the societies they are in, in all aspects of their lives?
>>55817990
High amount of meant is bad for your health no meat is bad for your health if you don't take complements.
Not every humans has the same digestive process. Indians are vegans because of their diet and millenium of vegetarian diet changed their metabolism.
Another similar exemple is consumption of tofu in Asia. It is contain a lot of andocrine disruptor.
Eating tofu in big quantities isn't healthy if you're not asian.
tl;dr not everyone has the same metabolism. Most of us are omnivorous and require meat in their diet.
>>55818254
which essential protein ?
i don't know any which is not found in plants.
Any cooked food is poison.
>>55818370
yeah probably
"Humans was MEANT to eats meat! We done needs it to survive!"
Nigger-tier food. Don't be a barbaric nigger.
>>55818304
HAHAHAHAHA
what a little faggot. You don't eat meat because it hurts animals?
>>55818381
no one requires meat. we are not even talking about veganism we are just talking about vegetarism, so tell me why most humans need meat.
>>55818392
But can your system digest those protein which are found in the plant?
also it's not the same quantity, you need to eat ten times more of that plant to meet your nutrition requirement.
A good vegetarian takes medical complement and is followed by a dietitian.
>>55818100
Your morals have no place in the natural order of the world. To force your morals not just upon other humans, but even animals, is a product of your delusion of grandeur.
>>55818254
The protein in DNA is very, very insignificant compared to the rest of the cell.
Also, all meat protiens are aviable in vegetables (Just not all in one, need to mix and match), as well as most vitamins , except D and B12.
That being said I eat meat becuase I enjoy it, but i cut down on it to save water in food production.
>>55818392
http://www.livestrong.com/article/426174-10-essential-amino-acids-why-we-need-them/
>vegetarian food pyramid
>supplements on it
Wew kek
>>55818560
Because the amount of certain vitamin and protein isn't enough concentrate inside crops.
You would need to eat 10 times more vegetable to compensate with the lack of meat.
It is a fact that vegetarianism requires vitamins complement to fulfill their dietetic needs.
If you're vegetarian and around consulting a dietitian or a doctor you're just being irresponsible with yourself.
>>55818046
It's probably better to completely take no responsibility over the indirect consequences of your actions and only refrain from direct malicious actions, otherwise you'll obsess over everything.
"Oh lawdy look at all this meat! Vegetables is fo' PUSSIES! We's eatin' da MASTER-RACE food wut makes ya big an' strong!"
>>55818846
and don't*
>>55816814
I'm fine to eat whatever as long as it tastes like meat. Animals kill other animals.
>>55818619
I never said protein in DNA give us nutrition. The point was that literally everything we ett has soee amount of protein but people don't know what protein does other than generalities
>>55818597
yes it can.
no you don't need to eat ten times more, just eat soy. but even without soy there are many other plants that supplies you with enough protein.
>>55818605
how do you come to the conclusion that i force anything on anyone ? i just said that your arguments are bad and that you guys should at least be honest.
>>55818876
The fallen angels gave knowledge of eating cooked food to niggers to reduce their lifespans.
Veganism is extremely stupid, it havê not a single advantage, it causes subnutrition and Blood deseases.
It makes not your body and mind grow.
Vegans are retarded, more than a chimpazee, expecialy when they try to fool you with theyre fake
Studies
>>55819057
proof needed.
>>55818556
>You don't eat meat because it hurts animals?
I don't eat it because it's fucking disgusting. Meat is literally a rotting animal corpse.
But Ngawa M'boge here has something you would probably be interested in. I bet you two have a lot in common!
>>55816019
Humanity is merely participating in this savage cult of death called life.
>>55819249
No, a death cult has imposed itself over life.
Meat fish milk cereal fruit etc, no one substituem another, thats a myth
>>55819064
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAH
YESSSSS
DIE YOU LITTLE FUCKS.
always remember eventually they turn ugly.
>>55819136
you are the one who has no clue and is making claim after claim without proof.
protein is no problem, iron is no problem too, the only problem is b12, which is a important vitamin and yes you need to substitute it if you are vegan.
Vegetarian is ok.
Vegan is pants on head retarded.
Over consuming meat isn't a good thing I a normal human should eat meat once per week or eat a fish.
Because of history we tend to consume more salt and meat because it used to be considered a symbol of wealth.
Everyone can eat meat now but we kept the bad hobbie of eating too much of it.
It is the same abuse with salt.
Reducing the amount of meat your consume also has an impact on the market so you don't have to turn full vegetarian.
Vegetarians are indirectly killing animals by competing with them for food. Why should they act like they have the moral high ground?
>>55819164
He looks like a court jester wearing that hat.
>>55816019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JeLgHnvTAU
>>55819164
>man covered in shit argument
Nice try, Rosa. The only good vegetarian was Hitler. Here's someone you might be interested in.
>>55819366
I was told it was to sort out the males so they could get more eggs for vegetarians or something like that. At least they weren't left to suffer for long.
They all look pale and hungry all the time.
>>55819397
You need substitute if you are vegetarian regardless. We are not cows we don't digest crops as well as them. But keep telling yourself thatbeing vegetarian is healthy. I don't know for me it's just common sense I don't see why I should convince you about something that requires just basic knowledge and common sense.
I was a vegan in the past since childhood, believe me, you need meat and fish, vegetables CANT substitute unique nutrients in animals
>>55819704
Lmao I bet they were tasty though.
>>55819735
this is just wrong. what minerals or vitamins does a vegetarian has to substitute ?
We are not cows, this is why we don't eat grass.
>common sense
enough is enough Ahmed.
>>55816388
>cant build muscle
sure can. lack of protein is an urban legend
>most vegan food tastes like ass
you know what ass tastes like? interesting...
>need to eat fucking constanly to get enough calories
its easy to overdo calories regardless of diet
>increased risk of homosexuality
if youre afraid youll turn gay because of something, youre already gay just in denial
>>55819124
None of that is true, Mini-spain.
Heart disease is the #1 cause of death worldwide, and is a direct result of eating animal products.
Vegans and vegetarians have much lower rates of heart disease and cancer, simply because they do not eat meat.
>>55819948
>not understanding metaphors
You sound like you need some nutrients man.
>>55819426
>Vegan is pants on head retarded.
There's worse. Like crudists, fruitarian or applearian. And the worst thing is that they won't shut up about it.
>>55820037
enjoy your mad cow, meatfag
>>55817381
Then its not meat. Meat is food.
The 1 cause of death is subnutrition , mini canada
>>55816019
1. Meat is fucking delicious
2. Biologically and evolutionarily, humans are entitled to eat meat because we're the dominant species. We fucking deserve it.
3. Culturally it's just fine to eat meat.
4. There's no reason for you to not eat meat unless it has an adverse physical or psychological effect on you. Like trauma or something.
>>55819667
I'm actually a 39-year-old male who's been vegan since 1997. No diseases. No hair loss. No vitamin deficiencies. Normal healthy weight. Never need to go to the doctor. I eat whatever the fuck I want and don't get fat.
Vegan master race. Feels good, man.
Hey mini canada you dont havê any proof that you can be healthy without meet just face it dude
>>55816019
I find it hard sometimes being vegan and right wing. Some retards around me are true barbarians. No wonder right wing politics is slipping out of Europe.
Try to build muscle of run 5km, you cant, youre not healthy, thats a lie
>>55819953
Meat has nothing to do with cholesterol (or diabetes).
>On any given day, we have between 1,100 and 1,700 milligrams of cholesterol in our body. 25% of that comes from our diet, and 75% is produced inside of our bodies by the liver. Much of the cholesterol that’s found in food can’t be absorbed by our bodies, and most of the cholesterol in our gut was first synthesized in body cells and ended up in the gut via the liver and gall bladder. The body tightly regulates the amount of cholesterol in the blood by controlling internal production; when cholesterol intake in the diet goes down, the body makes more. When cholesterol intake in the diet goes up, the body makes less.
>>55816019
If it worked for 50000 years why change it?
Colesterol is produced by the body, of you neat colesterol the body produce less
eggs, bacon and coffee is the only reason i get out of bed desu
>>55820637
Comparing 5000 years to 200.000 years since humans roamed the land. It's meat that's causing diseases. But hey, let's not talk about it. It's 'natural' to eat meat!
Veganism is up there with communism, atheism, and pro-abortion for the most part. I cannot agree with this lifestyle.
I just came back from lunch, had some beef.
I love meat. I'm eating goose jerking right now and I like it.
I havê a trauma but i know that i need meat, i try bye force
>>55820800
christfag detected ding ding ding. anything you say from now on is discarded
>>55820775
>It's meat that's causing diseases.
lol do vegans really think this
I hate libtard marxist ideologias, they are all retard
>>55816019
>>55816019
I was a vegetarian from 4 years old until just before my 20th birthday. I'm 6ft and I was very skinny and weak. I imagine I would be taller and more built had I not been vegetarian. I'm much healthier now that I eat meat. Not to mention the fact it's tastey as fuck.
Never had ethical/moral issues with meat. I was shooting and gutting rabbits for my parents from a young age. Gf is a vegetarian. Annoys me because she needs more weight. She's tiny
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>>55820538
tl;dr: bullshit from blue pilled carnie faggots who think eating dead animals full of piss, blood and shit is "natural". top kek.
Vegans and vegetarians are literally out breeding and out living carnies, you are going extinct. After you're cleansed, vegans/vegetarians will be living in your houses and fucking your women, ushering in a new era of superior humans who have never consumed dead tainted animal flesh.
Denying this is utter lunacy, and it is not up for discussion.
>>55820800
veganism, communism, atheism and pro-abortion? BUT THATS ALL COOL STUFF
>>55821188
fuck off moralfaggot
>>55820322
he doesnt realize that the reason hes still shit posting on 4chan at the age of 39 is cause hes a dumb vegan
Mostra vegans cant even fuck, the coco dont grow
>>55821180
You didn't now shit about nutrition so you couldn't hack it as a vegetarian, no surprise there. Now your inferior genes can be weeded out after your meat consumption kills you, seems like evolution is working just fine.
vegans usually look pale and sickly unless they are asian vegans which are the only race that can be healthy on that type of diet
>>55821188
>full of piss, blood and shit
have you ever heard of cleaning or cooking?
Of course you have since this is bait
>>55821180
i was thin as a vegetarian too, thin as a vegan and then at the age of 26 i gained weight while eating like i always did.
it is about genetics you moron.
if you really believe you can't gain weight easily as a vegetarian or vegan you are a real stupid fuck.
One big thing that vegan cultits liars dont speak up, alots of them need to receive Blood of animal éster monsters to survive. .|.
I don't have a problem with Vegans or Vegetarians. What I have a problem with is how they spew all of their shit liberal agenda at you if they see you eating meat.
>>55820999
Says the kebab
>>55821235
I'm agnostic atheist though. I was referring to political atheism. The militant reddit types.
Communism is almost as bad as sharia law.
Abortion should only be reserved for special cases and not because "but I don't want it."
Veganism is tumblr tier.
>>55821587
Ah, just like our caveman ancestors did..right?
>this is what carnies actually believe
>>55816019
Every vegetarian/vegan I've ever met is a puny little weakling. They're sickly and pale and look like they're gonna keel over and die any second.
Plus they have to take supplements to stay alive.
>natural
vegetarian for 5 years and still not dead
somewhat skinnyfat, I prefer running long distance over lifting.
also I don't give a shit about what other people eat, eat what you want, none of my business.
>>55821680
your mother is tumblr tier
I AM a animal eater monster muhahahaha, Like in the motherfucking nature,
>>55821680
nah I agree with you. I take back the insult
>>55821871
10/10 argument
>>55821794
Yes?
Go back to school
>>55821839
Vegan body builder reporting in, take no supplements. I guarantee I get more complete protein by the time I leave the house in the morning than you do all day long.
Enjoy your cancer, faggot.
>muh canines
>>55821934
Finnish school system in action, ladies and gentlemen.
>>55821950
>lying on the internet
for what purpose?
>>55821923
as if the meatfag arguments in this thread made any sense at all!
>>55821188
>carnies
why are you pissed off at carnival workers?
>>55821950
If veganism is so much better, why aren't all the best bodybuilders in the world vegan?
>>55817921
I will never understand this.
>>55822031
>realizes he's a little faggot carnie weakling
>actual plant-fueled athlete calls him out
>h-ha-heh, l-l-liar!
#justcarniethings
>>55822161
Well I only feel guilty when I contemplate on it, most of the time I eat meat it's done by habit.
>>55817921
You're indirectly hurting living beings by eating anything, as you're competing for resources and will cause some herbivores to starve.
>>55822161
They probably also live in abject depression after learning that their immune systems are mercilessly killing off untold number of invading microorganisms at any given moment.
>>55822153
Go into any reputable gym in a real city, this is rapidly become the standard.
>>55821188
I found a picture of your competitor!
>>55816019
It sucks. I was vegan for 6 months with my girlfriend. I think people should eat less meat but cutting it completely out is fucking stupid.
>>55822374
I bet that thing just figured out how to take high-resolution picture of Neptune!
>>55822297
So the only way to not hurt anything is to stop living but then I'll make my parents sad. How do I escape?
>>55822331
You have quite a vivid imagination.
>>55822374
No one gets this and you're making everyone uncomfortable.
>>55816019
The morality of veganism is twisted as fuck, but it has brought forward some important discussions about how much meat we should be consuming when it takes so many resources to produce it. We truly are eating more meat than ever, and that amount is not sustainable.
>>55822487
Suburb dwelling faggot detected.
>>55819057
What are aminoacids bro? Plant protein is extremely incomplete. Its not the same 20 grms of egg protein than 20 grms of plant protein from an aminoacid point. The bioavailability is also different.
You need to eat 10 times more to get quality, bio available protein.
>>55822285
I actually have studied health and nutrition for many years and have just finally felt like I have come to the point where I get it. I feel my absolute best right now. I took time to research thoroughly. Unlike you who probably just follows the latest People magazine health trends of the week. Fucking vegan faggot
>>55816019
Afraid of the pig's deliciousness?
Ey Tturkey?
Vegans lie all the time like defending a cult.
Vegans are all betas.
Vegans need Blood transfusions.
Vegans only say shit based on 1 chinese scientist
>>55822552
Nope.
>>55822612
Almost everything you said is incorrect. Carnies love bro science though, the less they know, the more they convince themselves they're right, since there is no room for contradiction.
Must be nice to be so stupid.
>>55822077
They don't honestly aside from the protein part and people just flat out like the taste of it. Soy's going to give you protein too but you know what it also brings? Increased estrogen levels. Man should be free to eat whatever he wants, quit trying to actively ban meat eating.
I just despise the moral high horse that vegans put themselves on. It's okay if you don't eat meat but stop protesting against stuff like animal testing. I mean, what's your alternative? Testing on humans?
>>55816019
I don't care
Animals shouldn't be treated completely poorly though, so I try to buy local free-range stuff but otherwise that's it.
>>55822631
>Unlike you who probably just follows the latest People magazine health trends of the week. Fucking vegan faggot
Been vegan for over 20 years. You're batting out of your league lil guy.
>>55822803
Shut up, shitposter.
Unless an animal's life contributes anything to society, it's practically worthless and getting sad over its death is retarded.
We'd use less farmland if the entire world went vegan, and we'd be able to cease deforestation of the amazon since we wouldn't have to plant soy fields to feed our livestock. We could also use all the grazing and farm lands used to feed animals, to feed people and effectively end world hunger.
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>>55822848
>he's Australian so all his posts must be shitposts!
>>55822331
>this is rapidly become the standard.
keep lying to yourself, fag. I bet you live in an ultra liberal community and lift weights at a gym that's popular among faggot vegans.
>>55816019
The end game of existence is the collective happiness of conscious beings. If depriving a chicken of its meaningless existence makes me slightly happier, then its worth it. The chicken doesn't have to come to terms with how shitty the world is. I do. That's the price it pays.
Vegan food tastes horrible. And it's tough for a 6'5" dude like me to get all the nutrients I need through vegetarianism without becoming obsessed with food.
Vegetarians generally have an obnoxious holier-than-thou attitude. I usually make a point of eating extra meat when I eat with them.
ITT vegan skellies mad about people actually being healthier than them
>>55822882
>believing ANY of this
World hunger is an issue of people, not food.
>>55823043
Well yeah, that is the case, bub.
I dont always eat meat, but I see no reason to go fucking vegan. What does bother me though is people eating and throwing away fucktons of meat, never really considering what they are eating/throwing away.
You shouldnt eat processed and industrial meat anyways cause of all the shit in it. Farm raised and grass fed/hunted like real men.
>b-but thats expensive
take charge of your income you fucking neet
>>55823105
>not understanding the most basic principle of ecology
>>55823049
Try again. What's it like knowing you're so far out of the loop you actually think this is a lie or even remotely far from the truth?
Actually, you have no point of reference, so let me tell you: it should make you feel like killing yourself, since you're clearly helpless and too far behind to be saved.
>>55822882
I don't think we'd need to go all the way vegan just to stop the deforestation. And we already treat the vegetable farmland like shit, so we should probably work on that before thinking of it as a solution. And then there are overarching problems, like pollution.
So I'm open to better ideas, but X cause or Y cause isn't going to cut it here any more than X energy source or Y energy source or just using less energy is going to cut it.
Dunno why such a push to claim veganism is healthy or as healthy as eating meat. all of you vegans would stop being one if in vitro meat with no animal slaughter involved became mainstream anyway that's really the only argument
Vegans are weak.
Vegans are pale.
Vegans cant compete fisically.
Vegans havê less mind capabilities.
...need Blood transfusions.
...cock dont devenlope.
...havê weaker imune sistem.
...have inferiority complexo with animais.
Etc
>>55823253
Once again, world hunger isn't an issue of food, it's an issue of people. Why is this hard to understand?
>>55816019
We have forward facing eyes and pointed k9's. Which marks us biologically as a predator.
>>55823219
take a look at australia m8
all their meat is grassfed
I would become vegetarian if it weren't for meat being so tasty
>>55823086
>I usually make a point of eating extra meat when I eat with them.
We know this and people like me, who never identify as vegan in public, encourage it thoroughly, because I know I am helping you kill yourself, saving the next generation from dealing with retards like yourself.
>>55822795
moral high horse? thats your guilt talking
soy is not the only source of protein, theres rice protein and wheat protein for example
red meat has been shown to be bad for your health in multiple ways in multiple studies. same cant be said for poultry and fish, though
Every other creature on Earth is inherently inferior to humans. Who gives a shit if they suffer.
>>55823333
No we'd use less farmland and and dramatically decrease deforestation
>>55822882
>if the entire world went vegan
You realize that veganism is a luxury of wealthy First Worlders, right? Most people aren't able to choose what or when they eat. And they're the demographic with the most rapid population growth.
>>55823452
No, we wouldn't, because you'd use MORE land to make more crops to feed people instead of using it for animals.
>>55823435
>"Hey big guy great BBQ! Let me get you some more chicken off the grill! It's sizzling! Come on bro!"
>>55822758
no point to argue with shitheads like this, they all say the same crap over and over it is like praying, they don't know anything but keep going.
>>55823525
Literally the dumbest fucking statement in this thread. Congratulations.
Humans aren't herbivores.
>>55823409
actually if you just tried the alternatives youd soon realise how they not only taste as good if not better but how they make you feel better too
>>55823435
That's exactly the holier-than-thou, pseudoscientific horseshit that makes me do it.
>never identify as vegan in public
I can spot a vegan from a mile away. Which is quite impressive because all the vegans I know are skinny as a rail.
>Y-you don't know any vegans, Anon!
I go to a liberal arts college in New England.
>>55823564
>20 years vegan
>Minored in nutrition
>Body builder
Yep, whatever you gotta tell yourself, carnie.
>>55823525
>being this dumb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_law
read up on your 4th grade biology retard
>>55823634
You're literally the idiot thinking that you wouldn't need the same amount of farmland to feed everyone with vegetables alone. Go be a hippie vegan somewhere else
*recedes into shadows*
Hahahahahahaha
>>55816019
i chose to eat meat because i like it.
/thread
>>55823653
>Bipedal herbivores are the same as quadruped carnivores
This is what carnies actually believe.
>>55816019
animals are cute so eating them brings them closer to me
>>55823661
That's a god damn lie.
>>55823723
Literally not even related.
>>55823713
So you eat whey protein which is derived from cheese which comes from meat. Congrats, you're not a vegan.
>>55823811
>herbivores
>humans
Did you read the chart?
lol thanks for the laffs m8
>>55823661
What is the placebo effect.
do you realize how similar you sound to gluten-free people and anyone who thinks they've discovered a completely revolutionary diet?
its just new-age faggotry. the only argument you have is animal cruelty. which will be gone once we streamline artificial meat
>>55823692
>I can spot a vegan from a mile away.
No, you can't.
Which is why you invited me to your barbecue, it's why I didn't want to show up empty handed so I brought some ground beef, it's why I just left my brothers place where I had dinner, so I'm all set.
You don't have a fucking clue. Eat up, big guy.
>>55823833
On the other hand, if you're not eating enough vegetables to be taking two nice big fat shits a day, then you're not eating enough vegetables.
I felt pretty damn good for the few years when I was poor and only could afford beans and rice with a little meat here and there. But then I felt like crap, tired, constantly in pain, injuries never heal, popping pain killers every day, until I figured out that I wasn't getting enough meat.
>>55823811
Please identify the part in that image where it says that bipedal omnivores are the same as quadruped carnivores.
>>55823756
Can't even imagine the sourceless bullshit blog you get your information from. I literally can't even imagine. Kekking so hard.
>>55823811
>55823811
>carnies
this is on the same level as "cisgender" to me. you are the odd one out, stop pretending we are the weird ones.
>>55823999
yes I can
............its impossible to teach anything to these libtards marxixts. This is a cult to them and they lie to defender the religion
>>55823880
Either that or he's farting 24/7 from consuming the copius amount of beans needed to meet protein macro's
>>55823880
>So you eat whey protein which is derived from cheese which comes from meat.
>thinks vegan body builders consume whey protein
Oh my god, my sides. Holy fuck. Don't even need to hit the gym today now, thanks man.
>>55824095
Go ahead, prove that you wouldn't use the same amount of space as farmland for food crops as are being used now. So far, all you've done is say "nuh uh!" and throw out insults.
>>55823880
if you use a field to produce potatoes instead of cattle you get about 11 times the calories
>>55823934
>Did you read the chart?
Did I read the chart you got off Billy Bob's and Skeeter's nutrition blog? Nah, I'm good, Cleetus.
>>55824169
There is no successful vegan body builder that isn't cheating, and several have been called out as cheating on their "vegan diets".
>>55824237
>willful ignorance
embarrassing
>I don't read things I disagree with!
>>55824219
Potatoes are a poor-man's food. Go ahead and look it up. Even during the Industrial Revolution, which was fueled on a caloric basis by the introduction of potatoes from the New World, wheat remained the food of the upper classes.
>>55824237
>>55824169
yo this thread is fucking gold
>>55824101
>you are the odd one out, stop pretending we are the weird ones.
Stop projecting carnie.
Why the fuck do you people care what other people eat
Y'all have no power over each other, why bother
>>55824219
And less of the nutrients, shitbag. There are more nutrients in meat than there are in a potato. Vegetables are very specific in what nutrients they hold, which is why you need to eat so much of it to meet the RDV of nutrients. Meaning you'd need to eat more vegetables to get your RDV, meaning more money and more space needed for the more crops.
I can't get over the fact that vegetarians/vegans nonironically refer to people with different habits from them as "carnies".
You guys are too much.
WTF? Speaking in eatth space???? WTF????
Alot of land is empty of bean used to grow soya in brasil
>>55824440
Go back to your hole, Moortugal.
>>55816528
Yes
Am I the only one who thinks that vegan rhetoric is eerily similar to evangelical Protestant rhetoric? It always sounds like their trying to get me into a church service.
If you had to suivive in the wild you couldn't survive by just eating plants, as you need to many diferent species of plants to get all the nutriets human body needs. Plus winter.
Whoever you can survive by just eating meat only. You would have to eat organs tho. Which is fine.
We are more carnivorous than vegans.
>>55816780
>Meat eating is degenerate, which is why it kills you.
Eating bacon 3+ times a week increases your risk of colon cancer by 21% (of the original risk amount, not 21% overall). That's about all there's been a causal link for.
>>55821188
Do you see it? That bait? A kind of baity bait, that baits... baity.
>>55824306
potatoes are a complete protein and the best tasting food that exists
>>55824283
Depends on how you define "successful." I'll bet he weighs 165 pounds.
It basically comes down to philosophy, and trying to change people's basic philosophies is hard if not pointless. An intelligent human would experiment and see what worked, see what actions fit in with what results. The Buddah actually said much the same thing about vegetarianism. he said "don't take my word for it, try it for a month and if you don't improve, then don't stick with it". Incidentally, the dalai lama is not a vegetarian. Most buddist monks aren't - as they will eat meat if it is offered to them when they beg for food. The think with them, as you probably know, is not to cause _uncessary_ suffering.
>>55824510
>their
they're
H9oooooooooo personal aytack, it seems rationality ended for him
>>55824613
Learn to type you Arab.
>>55824402
>there exists a group of people who have no morals and support an industry of torture, rape, and murder
>just "different habits"
no anon, carnies are literally villains, and any derogatory term for them is justified
>>55824510
there*
and no, the difference is that vegan "rhetoric" is just simple logic, whereas church service is faith bullshit
>>55821950
>Bodybuilder
>No pic
I would've just not posted.
I'd love to stay around wrecking you dipshits but I have to go eat, real men need real food to fuel their bodies :^). Go have some chicken or beef or some shit! Seriously! We need you gone ASAP.
>>55824394
no you're dumb and wrong
the only thing we get specifically from meat is b12
which you can supplement
if you're too beta to go outside and get some sun you can just eat mushrooms for your vitamin d
>>55824527
Who cares if it's a complete protein or not? My point was that it is lacking in nutrition as compared to wheat.
Hello?
>>55824737
Of course the shitposting is coming from a Canadian. Canadians are the new Aussies. Must be from their DUDE WEED LMAO prime minister.
Since when potatoes are a complete nutritioned food???????????
Só if thats true, you only need to eat potatoes
>>55824775
>the only thing we get specifically from meat
Which isn't related to what I said even slightly.
Meat holds more nutrients than vegetables because animals eat diverse vegetables. A single potato has less nutrient tan a 4oz steak. I'm not saying meat has specific nutrients, I'm saying they have more than a single vegetable.
>>55824832
>carnie scum has nothing to say
just go sit in the corner and rethink your life you ingrate
Shity texto corrector -_-
>>55822286
The only animal i have the slightest bit of contempt for is dogs because we have domesticated them into an evolutionary partnership that benefits both parties. Everything else is fair game.
>>55824965
DUDE WEED
>>55824746
Have fun with your delusions, my 165lb friend.
>>55822331
San Francisco faggot spotted. At least you gays are contained in your little liberal shithole.
>>55824746
Giving up on shitposting so early? Or does typing take up too much energy for your "bodybuilder" figure of 120lbs?
>>55825012
you realize that smoking weed makes you smarter, right? is the reason you are so dumb because you think weed is bad for you so you drink a million alcohols every day and give yourself liver cancer?
>>55816019
vegans are fucking stupid and lack the brains and common sense to get the world back on track.
because of them, we have homosexuality and inequality. they choose to call themselves egalitarians, but they are hypocritical scum most of them. the few are like i said, plain dumb. almost too dumb to live, which is surprising how they are brain dead from watching their stupid "reality" television shows and fucking each other in the ass.
>>55825152
Oh baby, just hang yourself.
>>55822882
no thanks to niggers and McDonald's duty to the world to feed a hundred billion hungry niggers, so they cut down rain forests in the amazon to clear fields for their burger cattle.
>>55824952
right because meat is more dense when you look at it calorie for calorie potatoes or beans or whatever plant foods have as much or more nutrients
and according to the law of magnification you have to concede that you will get more calories from a field of potatoes than cattle
If I don't kill an animal, that doesn't mean said animal is going to live for eternity in bliss and happiness. Likely it'll just get picked off soonish by disease, accident or another predator in a more slow and painful manner, with most of its carcass going to waste.
When a hunter kills an animal, it gets a clean, painless death and all of its body goes to good use. Hell, in some places there are homeless shelters that accept game-meat.
Really, the only problem is that our choice of meats isn't diverse enough. We need to be less picky about what animals we eat, since there's probably a bunch of flavours and/or cheap sources of meat that we're missing out on.
>>55825253
>made amerifat cry
woops, sorry for making you face reality ;)
>>55825038
>>55825081
>>55825149
>Thinks the vegan who was just slapping them with his big dick left the room.
>Quick guys let's get in some zingers!
Hahaha, fuck me my obliques are going to be sore as fuck tomorrow. Alright I'm out this time. Go eat!
>>55825373
Calories is only a single part of nutrition you retard. If you eat calorie dense food that has no vitamins, you're going to probably die.
>>55825152
DUDE
>>55824965
>>55825152
>>55825402
>I smoke weed every day and I'm not addicted, I can stop anytime I want :^)
WEED IZ GUD 4 U
>>55825410
>pretending to leave a thread on the internet
>staying because anonymous people said mean things
How sad can you be, hombre?
>>55825626
WEED
>>55825699
LMAO
>>55825388
>Really, the only problem is that our choice of meats isn't diverse enough. We need to be less picky about what animals we eat, since there's probably a bunch of flavours and/or cheap sources of meat that we're missing out on.
I'm all for insect "meat" coming to the first world big time, i had it in China, it's (mostly) tasty, has great nutritional value in correlaiton with its price and it takes next to nothing to raise them.
>>55825575
thats a strawman m8
try reading it a few more times see if it clicks idiot
>>55823761
This is my favorite infographic of all time
>>55816019
no meat
>>55825749
Too much stigma, it'd take years to even be able to put it on a commercial market, let alone be successful.
>>55816019
I went to this vegan restaurant in philly last night:
http://charliewasasinner.com/
I spent $12 for a weak drink, and another $24 for plates so small you wouldn't be able to sell them at mcdicks for more than a dollar.
Veganism is a meme.
>>55825152
>you realize that smoking weed makes you smarter, right?
If that were true, then niggers would have the highest IQ in the country. Oh wait, its the exact opposite.
>>55825804
Hey buddy, keep telling yourself that all you need is calories. It's not like deficiencies are a thing :^)
>>55825749
We used to get loads of delicious shrimpmeats from the Gulf of Mexico before British Petroleum wrecked the place and our government covered it up for them.
>mfw the grocery store announces over the loudspeakers that the shrimp are perfectly safe to eat and are on sale today
>mfw the grocery store has never announced anything before
>mfw the grocery store has never announced anything after
h-h-hokay!
>all this low quality bating by this one perma-autist vegan ITT
>>55825655
i mean even if i were addicted, what would it matter? it's not like your crippling alcoholism where your addiction literally ruins your life, weed is harmless and actually makes you smarter instead of killing you like your alcohols
>>55824737
I was more referring to how ridiculous your name for said people makes you sound. Carnies, normies, etc. You're all autists.
Also I shit you not after I typed that my captcha was "Select all images of trains."
Can't make this shit up
If people stoped eating animais, all the domesticated ones would desapeared, nobody wants to feed pigs and chickens for nothing
>>55825575
you're really dumb
what you said would actually verify my position not yours
>>55825410
Yeah, you sure showed us with all that willful ignorance and those logical fallacies. Again, have fun with your delusions.
>>55816019
vegans will never enjoy a good pair of ribs.
not like their ribcage could support an angry mob of niggers stomping on their chest on the day of the rope anyway.
but man, those stupid vegans can never enjoy a rack of ribs like i can.
o
>>55825992
>I'm not addicted
>even if I was, it's okay!
Hey genius, alcohol in moderation is beneficial for you. If you spent money on books instead of weed, you'd know this.
>>55816019
Our bodies aren't made for it. Our appendixes are obsolete to our body, that's why it doesn't matter if we lose it. It was basically for us to digest grass and ruffage. We have moved on.
>>55825839
Yeah, i am sadly aware of that. Also, the only place i can order it from in Germany ironically sells it for a higher price than animal meats.
>>55825997
i'm referring to how carnies are basically satan, and any name for them that conveys that fact is good because we're not dealing with some people who just have some kind of different habit than ourselves. we're dealing with people who support the murder, rape, and torture of innocent animals. and that's not okay.
>>55826078
>alcohol is okay
LMAO
deluded amerifats never cease to amuse me
>>55826039
>potatos have more calories than meat
This was your position. Yes, they have more calories, but they have very little nutrition diversity. Which is bad, you dipshit.
>>55825992
too bad u still sound like a dipshit.
huff some ether faggot
>only a leftist vegan kek will say no to THIS!
>>55826131
This is some shit tier bait. You need to step it up, maplenigger.
>>55825903
so lets look at your claim that steak is more nutritious than potatoes
not only does steak have more calories it has less overall nutrition
>>55826161
>amerifuck gets btfo by logic
>"y-y--yyou still sound dumb anon!"
lmao
get rekt harder kiddo.
>>55816019
History will not be kind to those who don't stand up for animal's rights.
Libtards love to feel inferiority complex
None. Vegan diet is clearly better for the environment and more efficient in producing calories. Why do you need to argue against someone not eating animal products? Bootlicker who hates freedom detected
>>55826149
see>>55826221
and no my argument is that calorie for calorie any plant food is as or more nutrient dense than animal flesh
>>55816019
>Our area for pasture is so big that cattle lives next to their natural conddition
In Brazil, Cattle for meat production have better welfare than dairy cows.
>>55826131
seriously whats up with Canadians and their libtard bullshit. why don't you go suck off your PM since its the current year
>>55825992
>it's not like your crippling alcoholism where your addiction literally ruins your life
I don't even drink, you maple cannabis leaf.
Drugs are degeneracy
>>55826241
>Animals
>rights
tumblr plz
>>55823256
Great job citing references to support your argument. I grew up lifting weights and keeping up with the Mr. Olympia contenders. I've literally watched countless videos of professional bodybuilders where they talk about their diets, which consists primarily of rice, vegatables, chicken, fish, and steak. I've read men's health, men's fitness, and musclemag magazines where every single diet they recommend for gaining strength consists of lots of carbohydrates with chicken/fish and whey protein shakes.
Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I ser libtards everywere, am i OK doctor?
>>55826221
>less overal nutrition
It lacks 4% in Vit C, otherwise is it objectively healthier. IT has fats, more protein, cholesterol.
>>55826241
Rights are a human contract, animals cannot make contracts
>>55825887
well you're the one who went to the restaurant
True
>>55826505
/pol/'s been a lot active lately because of the Paris attack. Our video is getting traction and a lot of SJW's are getting upset that the normalfags are agreeing with it. They have come here with their bullshit beliefs trying to slide forum topics.
Este pessoal libtard está perdido
>>55826620
Not my choice. Friends birthday.
Veganfags seem to think price = quality more than normal people.
>>55826710
Holy shit, a talking monkey!
>>55826571
Jokes on you animal rights are a thing now.
Even the US drug laws contain the language, "man or other animals" which has successfully been used in court to get out of bogus drug charges on the basis of that wording violating religious belief that man is not an animal. Tell that to the drugfag animal rights retards. Probably won't make a difference.
It makes me fuherious when people protect animais but forget about children
>>55826536
you're obviously ignoring the graph of nutritional graph to the right of the label
look for yourself
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2770/2
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beef-products/3820/2
>>55826901
"man or other animals" faggot. children are just animals!
Children are people, animails arent,
>>55826536
>cholesterol
>healthy
pick one
make sure you change the grams to equate otherwise you might shit yourself
>>55826221
>pic basically proves that a steak is more filling and has more calories than a potato, while at the same time less glycemic and better for weight loss.
I know that in your western bubble life you think that this "shows" that somehow potatoes are more "nutritious" but objectively they aren't.
>B-but muhh vitamins
>>55818184
Homo's are smarter on average as well. Coincidence?
>>55826838
Which state are you from ?
.|. In the ass of all libtards
>>55827133
Well the state in which this case was fought was Texas (look up Alfred Adask if you'd like details), but it turns out that this same language occurs in many states. Obviously just a coincidence of course!
>>55827096
lol wtf are you even talking about?
how is a steak better for weight loss?
are you about to tell me carbs cause insulin resistance?
>>55827074
Cholesterol is actually good for you, limpdick. Even in excess, it's been found out that your body an regulate cholesterol levels IF you're healthy.
>>55826901
>It makes me fuherious when people
it makes me fuhrerious
>>55827074
>Cholesterol
>not vital to the human body
vegan idiot you just went full retard:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholesterol
>>55816019
The tumblr leatherclub is down the block
>>55827244
cholesterol is absolutely crucial
that's why your liver synthesizes it idiot
Hallo, jew need to eat Reich, because eat Reich is good for jew .
>>55826379
>fundie fuckhead confronted with logic
>"wahhhh what's up with sane, rational people not being accepting of my degeneracy!"
lmao, delicious fundie tears
and enjoy erdogan instituting sharia law, and we'll see how fun being a fundamentalist pig is then
>>55827229
it literally says in your OWN fucking pic that a steak is more filling. How stupid are you?!
>>55827510
Yes, because your body can synthesize everything it needs without support, that's why we don't need to eat.
>>55827545
yes but that's for 57 calories instead of 26
so you can eat twice as much of the potato
>>55827610
except every single one of your essential vitamins and minerals lol
>>55827470
>>55827510
yes exactly motherfucker,and you where the one saying that it is unhealthy to begin with. Jesus it's like arguing with a 3 year old
>>55827346
cholesterol is not required as a nutrient because the body is able to synthesize all the cholesterol it needs
>>55827682
i guess thats why they call them essential lol xD
>>55827682
So you're attempting to tell me that if you eat a diet that includes (somehow) 0 vitamins or minerals, that your body can synthesize them itself.
You're a fucking retard. Jesus christ. Look up diseases like Scurvy and then hang yourself.
>>55827751
Except that it doesn't, which is why you need cholesterol.
>>55827520
I'm an atheist you dipshit
>>55827740
because dietary cholesterol and saturated fat are completely unnecessary and have mechanistic links between cancers, CVD and diabetes
Jew need to eat Reich and have more concentration in school.
If jew dont eat Reich jew cant enter in the army.
>>55827838
lol strawmanning this hard
