>There's too many of you
>We're putting you in communal low-rent housing until we can deal
>Your file will take at least a year to get done and you'll be forced to stay there until then.
>Deal with it or go home. We'll pay for your return trip
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/34662/Vluchtelingencrisis/article/detail/2523970/2015/11/14/Aan-alle-asielzoekers-je-kan-op-onze-kosten-terug.dhtml
I love how Belgium is not coddling to refugees. Either waste a year of your life waiting for your file to clear in shit housing or kindly fuck off.
>>55793714
They're also sending this info in a letter to all refugees currently in Belgium in 10 different languages so they know they can fuck off.
>>55793714
Nice job, rebellious provinces. Alternatively, just send them to Wallonië.
>>55793985
Nah, they'd still cost us money.
Kunnen we Wallonië niet verkopen aan Frankrijk?
>>55793746
Well at least there's progress.
I mean last time they had sent paperworks to the refugees it was in French & Flemish, which was a bit pointless.
>>55793985
It's actually already the case, Wallonia is getting more refugee than the Flanders. (9 centers in Wallonia, 6 in Flanders and 3 in Brussels)
Nobody is thrilled by this,n neither Walloons nor Flemish people (Brussels is already a caliphate so I guess they're ok there.)
>>55793714
We can take them off your hands Belgian bros!! Just happy to be of service!!!
>>55794571
Verkoop het eerder aan Algerije :^)
>>55795093
Dear Swedish Caliphate,
Yes.
Kind regards,
Belgium
>>55795093
Sweden YES
>>55795093
YES
E
S
>>55793985
DANK MEME U
Eindelijk!
Ik zie ook dat steeds meer en meer mensen tegen deze vluchtelingen zijn (op facebook enzo).
Maar der zijn nog altijd vettige linkse en groene hippies die denken dat we meer moete binne hale zoals deze turkse kut:
http://www.knack.be/nieuws/belgie/meyrem-almaci-wij-kunnen-de-vluchtelingeninstroom-wel-aan/article-normal-625711.html
This is sensible and pragmatic.
>>55795425
Die geit heeft toch echt een kop om stront op te sorteren zeg.
Op onderwerp: Ik heb al heel de familie de van de rode pil voorzien.
tfw they'll finally deal with molenbeek
>>55795425
Nja, ik zit op unief dus het druipt hier van liberaal uitschot en tumblr vetzakkerij.
>>55795557
It's pragmatic as fuck for Belgium. Really surprised considering how Belgium is the land of compromise. Then again, the ruling party is currently right-wing. (inb4 BDW discussions)
>>55795651
Fucking hell I am so ashamed of this shit. Not the least bit surprised, though.
Molenbeek is truly the anus of Belgium.
>>55795620
Ik ben Facebook van de rode pil aan het voorzien. Ik ben een geintegreerde buitenlander dus geen enkele liberale kut durft mij tegen te spreken op dit vlak.
>>55795651
>>55795744
Turk?
God speed frites-friends
>>55795800
Ha, nee. Nog steeds binnen Europa.
>>55793714
>communal low-rent housing
Just put them in shipping containers.
Over here, they are being put in fucking castles and stuff. I'm kinda surprised nobody suggested putting them in the old concentration camps, with the argument that these horrific sites could finally do something good for humanity, a slap in the face of nazis etc. We should promote this.
>>55795744
>Ik ben een geintegreerde buitenlander dus geen enkele liberale kut durft mij tegen te spreken op dit vlak.
Toch respect daarvoor.
Ik heb geen fb, maar weet niet of ik die stap zou wagen. Het zal wel een goede manier zijn om mensen uit de vriendengroep te filteren.
>>55795875
Wat dan? Bosnië of Polen zeker
>>55795425
Migrants demanding television and more diverse food for free, does not strike well with most people who work their ass off for a roof and food themselves.
>>55795902
That's a brilliant idea. According to wikikepedia there were 6 trillion jews held captive in these camps, far enough for all the refugeez !
>>55795902
>Build really nice shipping container houses.
>Wait until everyone goes to sleep.
>Lock the doors and load the containers onto a barge
I think this could work, guys.
>>55795691
Welke unief en/of richting?
Hoe veel van die teringzooi is al overgewaaid vanuit de VS?
>>55795902
They are. I know Dachau is being used for thus purpose nowadays.
>>55795918
Naja, dan laat je mensen wel in hun echokamer. Confronteren is beter op dat vlak.
>>55795093
Pls yes.
>>55793985
DANK U
>>55793714
>You have to stay for at least a year
>Based
u wot m8
>>55795902
At least we keep them away from society I guess
>>55795425
de Belgen en Nederlanders hebben schijt aan de vluchtelingen in tegenstelling tot andere volkeren zoals de Duitsers en Zweden
>>55796089
Are they firing up the ovens as well?
You know.... with the cold winter coming and all...*cough*
>>55796222
In a dorm. With other smelly people.
At the same time these are the refugees complaining about slow internet in Germany.
This is a pragmatic solution, considering how sensitive the topic is.
>>55796222
Think about it: it means they're only getting basic shelter and food, but no money. They also can't work.
They have to put their entire lives on hold for a year. Few will do this.
>>55796222
Locked away in a shitty building unable to leave.
I see no problem with this.
Makes them easy to gas.
>>55796315
That's your job, Austria
Why is Belgium based as fuck?
Can I move there and help you round up the retards?
Gewoon Links blijven stemmen jongens..
kind of ironic that brussels is a hotspot for terrorism
>>55796701
Brussels is a lost cause imo. It's sad because it was considered a jewel of the western world in the early 20th century
>>55796055
And ship them to Madagascar.
>>55793714
Based Belgium.
Not as based as Australia
>Boat people
>Send out fucking battleships and tell me to turn around or we drown them
>Send them all to basically concerntration camp island
>They are kept there until they can provide documents to prove they are refugees with no terrorist links
>If they don't like, the Indonesians ship them back.
This is how you keep refugees.
>>55796988
We know. It's what everyone is dreaming of.
Instead of towing refugees to Europe, tow them back from where they came and destroy the boats.
Our navies are being reduced to taxi services for people smugglers.
>>55796856
>tfw uncle lives in Brussel
>tfw all this incredible architecture (pic related, hard to see, but that thing is fucking HUGE)
>churches everywhere
>incredible art centres and museums
>comfy local restaurants and stuff
vs.
>new modern EU shit architecture right between all these old buildings
>muslims shitskins everywhere
It's painful to see
>Brussels
>25% muslims
wtf
>>55793714
>communal low-rent housing
Yeah, I'm sure they'll rather go back to sandnigger land, right?
>>55797176
That's terrible. There are children on those boats (the majority of passengers are women and children, from what I hear.) Much better to welcome them to the European continent, to Germany and France and Sweden, so they can have a peaceful future.
>>55796988
>watch one of those border security shows
>they genuinely fire live rounds across their bow to get them to turn around
>>55793714
Based Theo, based Jambon, based BDW. Imagine this shit if the fucking PS were still in power...
>>55797251
Yes, at least they have their freedom over there.
They have to wait 1 year. They don't get money and aren't allowed to work. The reason they come all the way to western Europe is for money, otherwise they could've stopped in one of the dozens of countries they passed on the way here.
And if you aren't a Syrian there is very little chance of getting accepted anyway.
I'm sure many of them will just try in Germany or the UK.
>>55795425
Leg mij eens uit waarom vrouwen nu weer mogen stemmen?
>>55796701
everyone but the shitskins agrees that brussels is a disgusting place
>>55797654
De CVP vond dat een goed idee om de stay at home wives stemrecht te geven aangezien zij behoorlijk kerkgezind waren in die tijd.
>>55797320
where can I watch this ?
>>55795781
>LAAT MOLENBEEK AAN MIJ OVER
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/957/Binnenland/article/detail/2523145/2015/11/13/Waals-bedrijf-gebruikt-vluchtelingen-voor-reclame-Ze-komen-eraan-Zoek-bescherming-nu-het-nog-kan.dhtml
>mfw even walloons 'welcome' the """"""refugees"""""" with hitler salutes & nazi chants
way to go croissantbros
>>55797817
Will refugees be the enemy that will unite Belgium?
>>55796988
Dubs for troofs. That is in fact the correct way to process an onslaught of boat people.
>>55797817
even they know there's not enough welfare to go around for both them and the refugees
>>55797817
>The ad in the pic
Topkek
And please stop calling us croissants, we have nothing in common with tne french except the language
>>55793714
>we give you a house for at least a year
>and a wellfare check, probably
>we'll pay for your return home
>not coddling with refugees
>>55797925
They could become what the Jew was in the 30's. Belgian reich when?
>>55797925
>implicerend
België als een multiculturele samenleving is al een norm, hoewel door de aanslag in Parijs m'n familie nu wel begint te zeggen dat de terroristen tussen de vluchtelingen zitten en dat ze niet iedereen gewoon mogen binnenpakken.
>>55798079
Omelette du fromage
>>55798096
>>and a wellfare check, probably
nope, which is an absolute deal breaker for them.
>>55798446
Ok, then it's more or less fine. But to be "based" is to stop them on the border and shoot whoever is trying to cross it without a legal reason (asylum should not be one of these)
Do they have an opportunity to work?
>>55798096
They're not getting a house. It's a communal sleeping dorm. Barely enough comfort to exist with 20-300 others. They also get basic food and no money.
We're giving them the most basic care mandated by law and telling them its a year of this before they're even considered for asylum. If they don't like it, they can fuck off.
And most of them will considering Merkle is handing out free money.
>>55798565
>Do they have an opportunity to work?
Nope, they're not allowed to work.
They have to go one year without earning one cent.
Most refugees come to western europe bc they get money while waiting to send to their families back home.
>>55798670
Ok, Belgium you convinced me. Good job. Try not to be blown up in the near future.
>>55798565
>Do they have an opportunity to work?
Not until the year has passed and they somehow turn out not to be economical "refugees", which most of them are.
TO ALL SHITSKINS READING THIS: GERMONEY IS THAT WAY -------->
>>55798734
We'll try our best m8. Best of luck fighting separatist mudslimes in based Russia!
>>55795093
I have a coworker who have been saying this for months desu, cant wait to see if there is any difference tomorrow.
I still have hope about my country.
>>55793714
if id come from a country like syria, id fucking kiss his boots for half of what hes given them. to know me, and my family are safe, that we will have shelter, a clean bed, clean water and food. nobody trying to hurt us. not having to wonder when somebody is gonna come shoot you, or drop a missile on your home.
they should be thanking belgium, but instead they fucking scream and moan.
i have absolute sympathy for the refugees who come, but when they are given as best treatment as can be given, and they still complain. its tantamount to a guest slapping the host in the face. we are not, as they believe, magical countries that can give everyone a big house and a car and a job. but we do our best. and if our best isn't enough. fuck off. you're
>>55798728
>>55798813
Best believe they'll find illegal work with the help of their sandnigger buddies in Europe.
This is how they live, they're well connected and don't care about the state (which probably won't deport the poor dindus on first offense).
>Belgium indeed based
To bad you country is one boring smelling farm.
>>55796055
brilliant
>>55796089
>I know Dachau is being used for thus purpose nowadays.
wait, really?
>>55799399
Those fugee camps are under more surveillance than eastern European illegal workers.
Most of them will just not bother and go somewhere else.
>>55799540
Komm schon Hanz, du kannst es schaffen!
>>55793746
It's a brilliant tactic. Give them strong incentive for them to move to other countries such as Germany or France where the politicians are still actively trying to import as many as they can bring in. It calls Merkel's bluff, basically saying "hey if you want them, go ahead and take them."
>>55794845
>Flemish
>A language
haha ok
>>55793714
are you kidding me? nothing else is done in germany. except they have to live in circus tents here.
>>55796988
You cunts need to bring back based Tone before it is too late for you too
>>55796982
Madagascar is first to close borders
>>55799540
>To bad you country is one boring smelling farm.
Too bad your country is one boring smelling industrial zone.
>>55799540
Go change some sheets, Hans.
>>55800787
Kek'd
>leave Molenbeek to me
the absolute madman!
>>55796055
This should be the standard operating procedure for how all countries deal with these refugees
So many unexpected twists in the last week.
>Sweden has border controls (even in name it's a miracle)
>Serbs break out the based razor wire
>France closes borders
>Belgians figure out a way around Merkel's bullshit without breaking the rules
Could it be that Mr. Bones wild ride will end soon.. And have an exit that is actually an exit?
>>55800775
> mfw everyone in my family hates him
>>55801273
Well, that would still mean that a large amount of slimes are already present, their numbers just wouldn't increase as much as they do now. As Pim said, yiu can only start mopping when you close the faucet. Unfortunately, we decided to let it run full open for a second wave. When will we learn?
francken has been a dissapoinmted so far desu
stp believing bartje like a good goy
>>55801517
Better late than never.
When you've let the bathroom try, then you can see what cracks there are and repairs are to be made and then apply the silicone.
It's not the best outcome, but it's the best we can aim for with the current powers that be.
>>55801661
try = dry
Such fun.
>>55800952
IK GA MOLENBEEK OPKUISEN GODVERDOMME
>>55801661
To be honest, just closing the borders now could, in the long run, be even more disastrous. We will still have an enormous muslim population that will steadily grow. If the current crisis gets out of hand more, there could be a serious option of deporting muslims on a large scale.
yeah, maybe they should have stopped those 5-800 of their own from going to syria and letting some of them back in.
maybe they should have cracked down on shariah4belgium a long time ago.
gj belgium.
>>55801590
>I know jack shit about BE politics: The post.
>>55801989
I'm not sure we're in a position to judge, m8.
>>55793985
DANK U
>>55802267
hardly sitting here bragging about how 'based' we are though.
>>55801964
Stop them coming, watch the left cry about racism.
Then watch them cry about discrimination. Riots and 'not all ...' followed by shootings and explosions.
Bottle up the crazies and let them work themselves into a frenzy. Reap the benefits afterwards by expunging that sort while saying 'is this what you want next door?'.
THREAD THEMES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzJiIQAmMNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is-En5YrzO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTusF8QbCzQ
>>55793985
Send them all to Merkel's house.
>>55802133
im a bdw supporter; i just expected more from them so far
explain how i'm wrong? we're not based at all so far
misschien overdrijf ik tho, ik wil die kutvluchtelingen hier zo snel mogelijk weg, elke die er binnen komt is er een te veel voor mij
>>55796427
You're based too Denmark, i liked the lefty butthurt you generated when you started spreading posters advising refugees not to come
>>55802471
NVA is nog steeds de beste partij om aan de macht te hebben gezien de situatie denk ik. Natuurlijk is de situatie niet optimaal.
Stel u voor dat we een sos/groene als migratiesecretaris hadden op dit moment. Vlaams belangers zijn irrelevant want die zouden toch buitengewerkt zijn al hadden alle andere politieke partijen moeten samenwerken om een coalitie te vormen.
>>55793985
DANK U
>>55796988
Did you ever see the video that the immigration minister did to be shown to the boat people on arrival at the processing facility? Guy calmly, but firmly, makes it explicitly clear, that no matter what the smugglers told them, they would NEVER be allowed to settle in Australia. It was just so utterly brutal in it's simplicity, forthrightness and straight to the point attitude. It's exactly what has been missing from oh too polite western discourse for ages.
>>55802684
Das waar, ik mag er niet aan denken wat er zou gebeuren moesten de sossen nu aan de macht zijn...
Heb jij al mensen proberen roodpillen? Al die pol youtube video getoond aan mensen?
>>55802684
Ben ook wel blij dat NVA veel te zeggen heeft om eerlijk te zijn
>>55802471
Ge had misschien meer verwacht van de N-VA, maar gezien da alles binnen een nationaal én europees wettelijk kader moet gebeuren leveren die enorm goed werk voor de moment.
En als ge het over het communautair vlak hebt moet ge ook niet verontwaardigd doen, al van in het begin van hun campagne zijn er beloftes gemaakt dat de economie voorrang krijgt op het communautaire deze legislatuur, en ook op economisch vlak wordt er goe werk geleverd.
I thought you were left wing as fuck being the center of the EU and all.
Entry-level roodpillen die je met je vrienden kan delen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjvPj7WAX7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
>>55802751
God I love the unofficial Fuck Off We're Full Policy.
godverdomme gewoon opkankeren met die buitenlanders
gewoon opkankeren met dat volk
>>55800775
Stopping the boats was literally the only thing he did. Everything else he touched was a disaster.
>>55802978
I agree. Tony was a wank. Shit cunt policy. But that turn back the boats shit was legendary.
>>55802471
het valt wel mee, ze hebben een enorme hoop schijt gekregen van de vorige regering die ze moeten oplossen met veel tegenstand
ik begin het te krijgen van john crombez die constant zit te klagen terwijl het zijn partij was die een groot deel van de problemen heeft gecreëerd
>>55793985
Don't touch my Namur, otherwise i don't care
>>55793714
That's still letting them in.
>>55795093
I'm growing ever more tired of this meme. Mostly due to how this is the stance that most of Sweden seems to hold. We need a wake up call. Something big.
>>55802812
Mijn poolse vriendin heeft zichzelf geroodpild de voorbije 2 jaar. Zij was (verbazend genoeg gezien haar afkomst) eerder links, maar een erasmusjaar in parijs (waar het moslim% dat van brussel ver overschaduwt) en de verschillende aanslagen hebben haar veranderd. Mn familie en sociale cirkel zijn echter al lang aan de rechtse kant. Ik ben wss wat extremer maar ik praat er niet graag over met anderen.
>>55795781
it's finnaly happening :))))
>>55803130
>We need a wake up call. Something big.
Careful what you wish for, Sven.
>>55803080
I study in Namur and each year I see more and more shitskins in the streets. The city was almost clean 5 years ago, it's over.
>>55802751
Have a link to said video?
>>55793714
Rise Belgium, fight this insanity with all your might.
>>55795781
Ah finally.
>>55800952
> Jambon
> Haram
kek
>>55803130
>Something big.
And black
Fotos van molenbeek aan het zoeken, is da nie die gast da gestorven is in Syrië rechts? (brian de mulder)
>>55793714
> based Belgium
> gives randos free apartments while its students have to pay 70% of their income towards rent
>>55795425
>http://www.knack.be/nieuws/belgie/meyrem-almaci-wij-kunnen-de-vluchtelingeninstroom-wel-aan/article-normal-625711.html
stond in links erbij ; wtf :s
http://www.knack.be/nieuws/wereld/terrorisme-expert-knoope-een-groot-deel-van-de-wereld-haat-ons/article-normal-624191.html
>>55802866
>>55802684
>>55803077
Ik heb inderdaad wat overdreven, ik hoop gewoon dat ze hun standpunten nog meer naar de rechterkant verschuiven in hoeverre dat mogelijk is...
Ik heb gewoon echt geen zin om mij de volgende 40j kapot te werken om voor de "vluchtelingen" te betalen en ik hoop dat dat de invasie stopt, maar zal het stoppen? Of eerder: wanneer?
>>55797320
Link?
>>55793714
>We'll pay for you to go home
Why not just force them into boats back home?
Then you keep your money AND they're gone!
>>55796988
Landkucked European non-countries don't have the advantage of being a huge, expansive island. Sure, Italy and Greece might have boat people, but not Hungary, Austria, Belgium, Germany, etc.
The solution to the problem of multiculturalism is....more multiculturalism! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1U39UOL7oA
>>55797925
I wish.
While some idiots try to get some votes by fuelling a pointless hate between two regions we're all distracted from the real parasites.
>kebab verwijderen
>enlever kebab
>>55796234
Are u fucking kidding me. I live there and they're in Nijmegen city all the time.
>>55803130
Unfortunately, your country is like an eden for them, it is highly unlikely they'll ever attack you.
>>55793714
Shit, I'd put up with a year sitting on my ass, doing nothing and getting fed, if it means I get to be Belgian after.
Sure as fuck beats having to go through legal immigration channels. All I have to do is be an unwashed, uneducated shitskin and I'm in. But as a white Canadian pharmacist? I can get fucked.
>>55804159
I'd take you over shitskins everyday mate.
>>55793714
and you think they'll go home why? as long as they get their welfare gibsmedats that ain't happening
>>55797251
Considering they were all comfortably middle class back there I'm sure they will.
>>55802335
Holy shit my sides
>>55804232
Thanks wafflebro.
2bh, Canada's being more of a bitch about this than you guys. Our PM is going to be flying thousands of refugees in and carpetbombing the major cities with them.
I wonder how long it will take them to complain that they're not getting 1st class seats.
>>55803333
nice quads bro
holy fuck
When did Belgium become such a based country?
10/10
>>55793985
Wallonië and Brussels are bad enough as it is, don't go and make it worse.
>>55804642
You're really unfortunate with the timing of your political pendulum.
We've had the leftest of the left rule the country from the 80's until the mid 00's and since then the electorate started swinging to the right side.
Your electorate has started swinging left after harper's uncharismatic reign. Really poor timing considering the state of the world. Almost every other western country has been moving in the opposite direction.
Ah Belgium, land of waffles, beer, chocolate, pedofiles and secret hideout for international terrorists.
COLD
WINTER
>>55801590
I think we maxed out at about 5OOO assylum applications in September? Yes it's way too much but we're right next door to Germany. Imagine what it would be like with SPA/PS in power. Even Finland is getting 1K to 2K per day.
>>55805810
http://www.cgvs.be/nl/cijfers
>>55804393
> Have to stay in shitty communal dorms with several other people
> Can't work
> Given only basic food and care as required by law, no money for anything else
> Have to stay in communal dorm for a year
Considering that other places in Germany are putting these people up in hotels and paying them enough to spend on unimportant stuff ((even then they complain about slow internet)) It's a decent enough incentive to at least make them look somewhere else that'll immediately accept their asylum request, give them a home, and pay them to sit on their asses and do nothing.
Hello Belgian friends, could you explain to me what's the big deal about Molenbeek?
Is it like our Seine Saint-Denis, aka all sorts of trafics/crimes/rocks thrown at firemen? Or just an islamic base in Belgium?
>>55793714
I lived in Brussels for ten years... Belgium is not based but doomed, Bart.
>>55805920
>http://www.cgvs.be/nl/cijfers
Thanks.
A LOT of INNOCENT people are going to get FUCKED over the actions of a VERY small number of DISENFRANCHISED youth
Good stuff.
Hope Francken doesn't get Pim Fortuyn'd.
I really like this model.. good on you Belgium!
>>55806082
Islamic ghetto.
>>55806082
Islamic base, in the past they'd call police and throw molotovs at them. (couple years ago) it seemed more quiet recent. When Sharia4Belgium went on protests, they'd do it in Molenbeek. (most of them left for Syria, 1/3th is dead already.)
So, strong islamic base. Although there are other islamic parts in belgium (like borgerhout) Molenbeek seems to bring forth alot of jihadis.
>>55803333
The amount of inbred people in Europe justifies race mixing but not mass migration
>>55795620
Kleurrijke uitdrukking heb je daar.
>>55795781
YES
>>55796073
Valt aan de UGent nog mee voor zover ik kan zien, veel Turken en West-Vlamingen though. Mensen zijn meer bezig met de verhoging v/h inschrijvingsgeld, uitgaan en examens die eraan komen.
>>55797235
>>55797242
Brussels is very... colourful, to put it lightly.
>>55797925
>Belgium
>united
Hoogste kek
>>55801590
Eh, he's doing what he can within the legal framework. You can't please everyone.
>>55802335
>ze hebben maar drie namen
>ze houden niet van spek en ham
>soms ontploft er een
>>55806082
It's a Muslim ghetto basically.
>>55806261
Nah, he's not really at risk, imo, he's been pretty moderate
>>55803390
Most everyone has their parents pay for that.
>>55803402
>Voor grote delen van de wereldbevolking gaat de wereld niet over morgen maar over gisteren: wat hebben we meegemaakt, wat is er in het verleden met mij en mijn cultuur, met mijn voorouders aan de hand geweest. Die honderden jaren van geschiedenis zijn de bagage op ieders rug. De toekomst is een fantasie.' En daar ligt volgens hem een deel van het probleem. 'Het westerse modernisme is geneigd die visie op geschiedenis te ontkennen. En dat geeft een enorme kortsluiting.'
>non-Western people don't care for the modernist Western focus on the future, they care about the past and their heritage
>Westerners talk about the future, but other populations don't see it as their own future but the Western future
He's right, it's common to try and get rid of our cultural and historical traditions in the West, or to modify them to account for the cultural sensibilities of immigrants.
I hope you guys tell them they cant reproduce while being in there. It'll be the ultimate fuck you guys.
>>55805734
So far it's looking to be a nice, warm and wet winter here. I wouldn't count on it.
>>55806493
>emoticons
