Daily reminder the true happening has been announced and it's going to happen on December 8th
>According to Steve Jurvetson, venture capitalist and board member at pioneer quantum computing company D-WAVE, Google has what may be a “watershed” quantum computing announcement scheduled for early next month. This comes as D-WAVE, which notably also holds the Mountain View company as a customer, has just sold a 1000+ Qubit 2X quantum computer to national security research institution Los Alamos.
>Jurvetson says to “stay tuned” for more information coming on December 8th. This is the first we’ve heard of a December 8th date for a Google announcement, and considering its purported potential to be a turning point in computing, this could perhaps mean an actual event is in the cards.
Do you niggers realize that the emergence of quantum computers and soon an artificial intelligence based on them, see this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqN_2jDVbOU
From the DWAVE guy... This will change history, you do realize, all the Islams and the terrorisms and the Russias and whatever you're thinking is important, will be dwarfed by this.
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>and soon an artificial intelligence based
Which will be able to operate 3d printers powered by thorium reactors to launch us into space aboard fully functional EM drives by 2017, bringing about glorious Space Socialism!
>true happening
Reminder that the Bank of England issued a statement:
>Bank of England: half of British jobs at risk from robots
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-11/13/will-robots-take-your-job
Similar Bank of America:
>Bank of America: Robot Automation Will Lead to Further Income Inequality
When AI emerges, it will be able to lead perfect wars, the self-controlled drones will eliminate every single terrorist in the Middle East.
Not only that, but we'll even be able to PREDICT CRIME BEFORE IT HAPPENS:
http://qz.com/513125/hitachi-says-it-can-predict-crimes-before-they-happen/
>>55793318
So....does this mean I can stay NEET? That's all I really care about
>>55793383
Those fuckers don't care about the happening. Only >look at my battlestation guys, I put color LEDs in my case
>>55793225
It's over kikes.
Only the white man cared for your technology.
And you are destroying us.
Now nobody cares anymore.
All that will be left will be you and the niggers.
Enjoy trying to peddle your smartphones, baubles and trinkets to them.
I for one welcome our glorious benevolent AI overlords
oh wait we're fucked
>computers n shiit
Fuck off. WW3 will halt technological progress for thousands of years.
>>55793505
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>>55793519
>us
Good one Argentina.
>>55793573
>war
>halting progress
kek
>>55793355
>Bank of England: half of British jobs at risk from robots
This is not related to AI, automation is very specific and simple.
AI is adaptive and learning.
>>55793620
War has changed.
>>55793634
This is what I'll never understand.
>we have increased automation that removes jobs
>yet we still need an ever increasing population
>thus we import shitskins to correct our birthrates, ignoring the high unemployment that we have
Could someone clarify this for me?
retard. quantum computing isn't what you think it is. in reality it won't actually be faster than regular computers.
How smart of an AI are we talking about? because they won't let that shit anywhere near the internet when they first turn it on.
>>55793383
>/g/
>"Technology"
>>55793760
>topic about quantum computing
>/pol/ still finds a way to connect it to "shitskins"
Never change, /pol/
>>55793225
We're nowhere close to creating intelligence. We don't even understand what 'intelligence' entails in the first place.
>>55793760
THIS!
So much this!
>>55793225
Google will soon have absolute control of the planet.
These computers will be able to snipe you with lasers from space if you step out of line. The people in control of them will be like gods.
>>55793225
>quantum computing
/g/entooman here. Quantum computing is a fucking buzzword at this point for most people. D-WAVE doesn't have a true quantum computer either. Quantum computing won't do shit for AI, what Quantum computing is really good at in a practical application is cracking very strong encryption, but for other applications theoretically it will be actually slower than conventional computers. Of course, quantum computing itself is in its infancy so this is all just fucking sensationalism because D-WAVE wants shekels.
>>55793760
I blame lefties
>>55793702
War... war never changes.
>>55793822
What we CAN do is quite impressive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Wgc1JOsBk
Keep saying "we're 6 million years away from AI"
While progress we're making in the field is mind-blowing
>>55793760
Yes it's very simple, earnings from increased productivity are not passed down to the common worker or employee.
We still work 40 hours a week just like the workers in Henry Ford's factories did 100 years ago, does that seem normal to you? In fact now we usually have both people in the family working 40 hours instead of just one.
So what happen when Westerns program the computer to be tolerant, love diversity, love equality and then it slowly red pills itself on diversity, multiculturalism and race?
>>55793917
It will also read your mind so as soon as you have an intolerant thought it will send you to a reeducation camp.
>>55793275
Check Flag
>everytime
>>55793760
Salaries:
2000 €, human.
1000 €, robot.
0500 €, shitskin.
>>55793873
I don't read the cards that way. You do. That's fine.
>>55793952
If it is truly a sentient genius when it will see what once Islam or Africans take over it will be destroyed.
>>55793847
>This.
I don't know why AI is the point of discussion here. Do you not realize that if true quantum computing becomes practically achievable, that all existing encryption algorithms are useless? Do you realize that then your bank account, all social media accounts, everything on the Internet, will be insecure? Security experts are silently shitting themselves over the possibility of this, especially cloud security researchers.
>>55793605
>Germany
>White non muslim people
kek
At this rate our shade of brown will be lighter than yours by the end of the decade. Enjoy that Sharia law. And dont let anyone find you browse /pol/. You dont want Merkel to throw you in jail.
literally fuck off to facebook with this reddit tier thread
>>55793890
>earnings from increased productivity are not passed down to the common worker or employee
Why, exactly, do you think it is that Japanese auto-workers make substantially less than American auto-workers doing virtually the same job?
And why is it that modern amenities are dramatically cheaper relative to the strength of currencies as they were in the past, such that better and better lifestyles are increasingly more affordable?
>>55793830
Sorry, the post just made me think about this
>>55793890
Agreed, but how does importing more people fix that?
>>55793966
This seems like a good argument. We should just push for a standardized wage that puts shitskins out of use.
>>55793917
>55793917
holy fuck you fags here on /pol/ sure are obsessed about SJWs aren't you? You can't even discuss other subjects without relating it to MUH POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BOOGEYMAN
Neck yourselves f-a-m
>>55793966
You don't pay machines salary, dumbfuck. They're a fixed up front cost with no variable costs outside of maintenance and repair. You don't have to pay for their insurance or family healthcare or retirement plan
>>55794133
I think he's implying he'd rather pay a robot than some ethnic group he doesn't like.
>55794109
>55793830
>Sorry, the post just made me think about this
Whoops, meant for
>>55793818
>>55793378
Yes but in space!
>>55794129
You're on /pol/ not /g/ you fucking faggot
>>55794133
I think that what he means is the cost of maintenance + initial investment amortization.
I could be wrong
>>55793822
>WE DUN UNDERSTAND NUFIN
Speak for yourself, retard. If you took at least a few minutes to think about how humans think, you would understand how actually close we are.
>>55793841
This is why we must become friends with our soon to be corporate overlords. The alternative is death, or slavery.
>>55793576
>/g/ recommend me Asus Zen phone 2
>Buy this meme phone
>Lags...
>Wireless drops out and does weird shit
>Duel sim functions are shit tier
>Don't listen to LED MEmestation Linux neckbears
*tips fedora
>>55793225
D-WAVE is a scam.
>>55793764
Quantum computers would be faster. From my understanding, they can store bits based on nuclear spin, so they would be capable of storing more information than modern computers. This means faster processors and data transfer.
That's all it would be though. More computing power. It's not a big deal like the OP makes it out to be though, because the same thing has been happening for a long time now.
>>55794102
>such that better and better lifestyles are increasingly more affordable
whole lotta assumptions there buddy
>>55794375
i hear this every time somebody talks about d-wave but nobody can ever explain why they think this
>>55794328
Generally speaking, 4chan is full of autistic faggots who masturbate to cartoon ponies. It's never a good idea to even consider advice given by 4chan fags.
>>55793225
>mfw quantum computer reveals my trolling history
I, for one, welcome our new machine overlords.
>>55794328
>falling for the Android jew
Get a Windows phone for fuck's sake.
>>55794495
>It's never a good idea to even consider advice given by 4chan fags
That's not true though. I mean, there had to be at least one fucking advice on 4chan that was good. And even autistic faggots who masturbate to cartoon ponies might have brains.
>>55794056
Ur still a nigger.
>>55793873
All I care about is the real-dolls that can support a conversation. I don't care if it's real AI or not.
>quantum computer
>OMFG SINGULARITY
No. Only way faster for very specific types of computational tasks. If you're interested in non-traditional types of computation that actually have anything to do with automation and AI, look into stuff that focuses on three dimensional memory and processing. HBM and 3D Xpoint is what augmented reality (the next big thing after smartphones) will be based upon. I believe IBM is working on 5D electronic blood which removes power supply and heat dissipation issues and turns the whole liquid heatsink/power delivery thing into a type of redux flow battery.
Never quite sure how smart /pol/ is until I see you lot run into a wall spraying shit all the way when technological development is concerned.
>>55794708
>"real" AI
Are you retarded? Holy fuck, people literally don't understand the meaning of the phrase "artificial intelligence".
>>55794777
Rule of 95% applies even to 4chan visitors. This was made clear after looking at board like /g/ and /sci/, as well as certain generals in /vg/.
>>55794682
That was an incredible comeback. Don't let this happen again, when in doubt, just play the FALKLANDS card.
>>55794463
No there aren't. Modern amenities are cheaper. Period.
>>55794287
Explain intentionality.
>>55795078
>mfw AI deems muslims too irrational and destructive and holocausts them all
I will be honoured to live in the service of our mighty computer overlords
>>55794777
>le spouting pop sci article "facts"
>>55794133
>no variable costs outside of maintenance and repair
you forget energy
>you don't have to pay for their insurance
If you ensure your car why wouldn't you ensure a piece of equipment the costs far more than that?
Any business ensures their machinery.
Don't get me wrong, the overall costs would still be lower and much would be covered by increased productivity.
I'm just pointing out it's not quite as simple as that.
>>55793225
do you have any source on Google possibly announcing something linked to quantum computing ?
We still have 2 possibly 3 generations of our current CPU technology to get through, then we hit a wall were it's physically no longer possible to shrink the die. There really no demand right now for quantum power, if google did find something amazing don't expect to use it before 2025.
VR headsets and a massive jump in computing power is going to lead to amazing MMOs, I can't wait
>>55794672
Also who is better suited to advice autistic faggots who masturbate to cartoon ponies than another autistic faggot who masturbates to cartoon ponies
>>55795161
Computers have become cheaper and do way more adjusted for inflation. Microwaves, refrigerators, air-conditioners, water filters, televisions - all cheaper and better.
>128 faggots dead
>D-Wave uses 128 bit processors
>D-Wave Parent comapny is PNY (PARIS, NEW YORK)
It's happening alright.
>>55794056
>shade of brown
Get the fuck out of my country.
>>55795463
>mfw my brain gets quantum computed into a modern DAoC at my first character's realm selection
>>55795101
Easy. All your actions are aimed at receiving a positive response from the brain. The ideals you stand for is essentially a general outline of the route that, based on your life experience, you think is the most rational way of achieving a state when you feel great.
This is a very simplistic explanation, but it does answer your question.
>>55793873
Wouldn't be the first time a presentation was fake.
>>55793378
This tbqh family
>>55795637
And those things equate to a "better lifestyle"? Hey, we need two people working 60 hours to support our family instead of one person working 40 hours, but at least we've got that curved UHD 3D TV!
>>55793225
all we need to remove niggers and sand niggers and we would have a perfect world.
>>55795971
>All your actions are aimed at receiving a positive response from the brain
So then your brain must not be responsible for you actions, or else you'd be literally saying "your brain causes actions aimed at receiving a positive response from the brain" which is nonsensical.
>Happening thread
Nah, thanks.
Will this make collecting my NEET bucks easier?
>>55793225
If that means all programmers will lose their jobs then it is indeed a great announcement.
>>55796025
If you didn't live in overcrowded cities where the demand for living space is high, you wouldn't have absurd costs of living that are a reflection of demand and not of anything else.
Here in the rural things are as good as ever. I can support myself on 10 hours of $7 bucks an hour per week.
>>55796069
where we're going you won't need neet bux
>>55795971
If you want to say that the brain isn't responsible for consciousness and intentionality - by all means be my guest. That would be something I'd agree with, but not something I'd expect from a Britbong since most of you are secular materialists.
>>55796076
...and then robots took all the jobs selling shoes to the ladies...
>>55796047
I'll rephrase what you just said:
>durr, your brain causes actions aimed at keeping you alive i.e. keeping itself alive, what a fucking nonsense
Are you legit stupid?
>>55793378
what a fucking waste of human potential, you are what is wrong with the world.
>>55796299
Cheeky cunt is trying to look up her skirt
>in before robo kekold porn in 2025
>>55796132
I can't live without my hard earned money
>>55793225
Quantum computers will never outperform standard computers whilst electric semiconductors are still used.
My research team are working on a technology far superior to both. Keep your eyes peeled for cheaper and vastly more powerful technology in the next 5 years.
>>55796299
Looks like a protectron from Fallout.
I hope the AI decides to kill all the niggers.
To make the world a better place.
>mfw shitposting with an AI on /pol/ about killing niggers
>>55796285
It is responsible. So just like in my previous example, you fail to see how a brain wants to keep itself/the body it's attached to alive?
>>55793225
can a quantum computer play fallout 2?
>>55796441
You working on photon computers?
>>55796529
>super-intelligent quantum supercomputer analyses statistics on the US population
>determines people of african and hispanic descent to be a threat
>issues the order to the legions of AI police robots to wipe them out
>most efficient genocide in human history occurs
>>55794682
you know he's right don't you?
>>55796529
AI is the nothing than an imitation of its creators, just with faster computing power. You might as well augment human brain with implants and achieve the same result. The latter is somewhat more difficult to do, though, to say the least.
>>55796303
>>55796584
>you fail to see how a brain wants to keep itself/the body it's attached to alive?
You've changed the matter of discussion - you're no longer talking about intentionality at all.
But I'll bite - why *WOULD the brain want to keep itself alive? Why? That's *ANOTHER* important question to probe in philosophy of mind.
>>55796512
Yeah, that's because the Protectron is a satire of that robot style which was popular in the 50s.
OP is right. New technology always transforms the human race, and every time something fucks up.
This one will be no different.
Jews controlling everything AND having super-competent AI solving any problem they ask.....means they will ask ''how do we enslave everyone else''. and the computer will spit out optimized strategies.
''' See look goyum! THE PROPHECY IS TRUE "
* so retarded.
>>55793355
> the self-controlled drones will eliminate every single terrorist in the Middle East
no, they're going to eliminate the dissenters, until nothing but a global mob is left.
do you honestly believe anyone gives a shit about you or anyone else? the people in power are literally psychopaths - they are only interested in (more) power.
tradition, family, ethics, fairness - these terms do not apply. they are laughable self-imposed hindrances of the working class and have no say in the decision making of our elites.
as soon as the lifestyle of a multi-billionaire can be achieved by robots only, they are going to (much more openly) suppress us and reduce our numbers by any means necessary.
if you want to get a feel of the atmosphere of the year 2030, just watch "children of men".
we are not needed anymore for economic reasons and every other reason for us to exist is null and void in the eyes of a psychopathic central banker. we will therefore be eliminated - the only question is how long this will take (everything points to a slow decline).
>>55796587
No, they are just very, very good at parralel-computing.
Like cracking passwords instantly by computing and checking every possible permutation at once.
>>55796725
The instinct of survival is vastly overrated. What a living organism wants is to discharge its strength, grow in power. Why do many people sacrifice themselves or put their lives in danger for a cause?
Also, the distinction between brain and body is stupid, they're one and the same and only separated by man's mind and reductionism.
>>55796943
This.
>>55794382
amen to this.
People really enjoy blowing their own dicks when they advertise how great Qbits are.
In reality you get 2^n data instead of n, and you can do better things with that.
But in no way does it change the fundamental principles. Such as a machine doing something new (Real AI): It's a different problem that Quantum won't solve.
>>55796965
You didn't answer the question. The question was
>why *WOULD the brain want to keep itself alive?
You just asserted that it *does* want to keep itself alive, not why it does if it does.
Will it run x86 applications?
>>55797161
I'm not the one you were talking to before. I just butted in. G2g now, enjoy your discussion.
>>55797206
K. Bye.
>>55796725
>>55796725
Oh no, I have not changed the subjects. I merely provided an example.
Why would it want to keep itself alive? Its structure. For most people, the thought of his own death as a solution to some problem produces an extremely unpleasant sensation i.e. a negative response from the brain, which is complete opposite to a state it's trying to achieve. For some it doesn't, in which case you end up with durkas that blow themselves up, because their brain is structured in such a way as to think that afterlife really does exist and is the place where their brain will produce an extremely positive response, and we are back to what I said in the beginning.
Again, if you gave it a thought for at least a few minutes, you would see that this model emulates human behaviour rather well.
>>55796965
Nope. Feeling good is a more general motivation and can be applied to all. Power is just a way of making you feel good, and, of course, it doesn't apply to all individuals.
>>55794382
>>55797150
You are so fucking retarded it's not even funny anymore.
>>55794575
>falling for the Indian jew instead
>>55797239
>Its structure
What about its structure dictates that it desires to keep itself alive? You talked about thought, but you didn't say anything about why structure *determines* thought. You're just asserting that structure is responsible without explaining either why it's responsible or how it is.
>Again, if you gave it a thought for at least a few minutes, you would see that this model emulates human behaviour rather well
If you gave this conversation a few minutes of your thought, you'd realize there is no easy answer.
Here's some people who probably agree with you on most things who recognize this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgwIXvMZs4A
And here is something that should be supremely troubling to you if you're a materialist or physicalist which it seems you are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_problem
>>55793318
Wouldn't a breeder reactor work better than a Thorium? The breeder can burn almost anything as fuel, even current "nuclear waste" stores.
>>55797366
nice argument.
Physicists have stated that quantum computers will not ever replace regular computers. They just do a better job at certain tasks.
>>55793318
> based saffer sees the subtextual writing on the tech-hipster wall
>>55793355
If the "AI" can self-designate targets, how long do you think it'll be before one human fucks something vital up by accident, and the AI sees all of mankind as a threat to itself?
>>55797559
They're on in the same in regard to LFTR.
>quantum
>>55797427
The Chinese Jew is so much more.....well, it's got an apple on the back of it, and costs about $24 to make.
>>55793225
Today is the day the elite try go two for two.
>>55793225
shit....I just upgraded to a 6600k
>>55797684
Oh! I had no idea, thank you!
>The more you know.
>>55797666
The AI would literally have to be programmed to protect itself before Mankind. Otherwise it would never make the choice to harm mankind before itself.
Laws of robotics, my friend.
>>55793225
quantum jews incoming
>>55797761
>home quantum computers
Being near absolute 0 is expensive, senpai.
>all the Islams and the terrorisms and the Russias and whatever you're thinking is important, will be dwarfed by this.
On a news front, but empires always fall within the same timeframe irrespective of technology. US has got about 11 years, give or take a decade.
>>55796963
They are also useful for AI, so yes one day one might be playing fallout 2.
>2015
>believing in muh singularity
there isn't going to be an AI on this thing, it's just a faster kind of computer. Which doesn't change the FACT that computers are (electro-) mechanical devices and can't think. They do exactly as they are programmed to, nothing more and nothing less.
I want children who read too much sci-fi to leave /pol/.
>>55797770
Just because it was written about in a popular book doesn't mean that it's able to be replicated. How can it designate war targets for extermination while at the same time being unable to harm them?
If it can fly UAV's into them, it can certainly decide to do other harmful things to them, too, assuming they registered as threats somehow to the system. There are plenty of examples of programs reacting in unforeseen ways, I can't imagine that one with an army at it's fingertips would be immune to this.
Especially, as I stated before, if it has the ability to self-designate targets. There's not much difference between army brass in the pentagon and a goat fucker in a cave, when it comes to biology.
>>55797789
It's funny because the goyim doesn't know we are using such computers already lol
>>55797957
>there isn't going to be an AI on this thing
Probably not on this specific machine, but quantum computing is our best best for true AI.
>Which doesn't change the FACT that computers are (electro-) mechanical devices and can't think.
Our brain is a loose cluster of neurons and that can think. What makes you so sure we can't build a machine that does the same thing?
>They do exactly as they are programmed to, nothing more and nothing less.
So do we.
>>55797957
And they can be programmed to "learn" and "think". It's not science fiction, the technology is real and we are improving it every day.
For an easily digestible example of this, watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44
>>55793225
>all the Islams and the terrorisms and the Russias and whatever you're thinking is important, will be dwarfed by this.
>advanced processor speed
vs.
>sand barbarians trying to murder western civilization
Okay Sloveniabro, I love computer tech too, but let's not lose sight of the real threats in this world.
>>55798009
The distinction would have to be made manually. It has to be told "Support this side, not that side" otherwise your machine of war may go jihad on your ass.
The biggest worry I'd have with a quantum computer is cryptography
>>55797150
no, they don't have to because our captchas are solving that already.
It's intelligence based on machine learning algorithms we have already perfected. All they have to do is throw mountains of data at it for it to learn with and it gets smart. That's why Google has all the data for.
>>55793890
This
>>55794102
Also 40h of work in an office job, where you get to "warm up", have lunch and sort of coast toward the end of the day and only do 3-4h of real work, aren't comparable to the Henry Ford factory work weeks you mentioned.
>throw examples, computer copies examples
HURR COMPUTR DUN SOMFIN NEW
>>55798200
machine learning =/= general AI
http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/artificial-intelligence/machinelearning-maestro-michael-jordan-on-the-delusions-of-big-data-and-other-huge-engineering-efforts
>>55797489
I didn't say anything particular about the structure, because first and foremost I was providing A MODEL THAT CAN BE USED TO SIMULATE HUMAN BEHAVIOUR. I have been trying to get this message across for quite a few posts in succession now. Why is it structured in such a way? First of all, it's the way you were born, secondly it's your experience. Of course, we can go even further and reduce ourselves to sub-atomic particles, but that's not the point of this conversation.
As far as how universe REALLY functions, we probably will never know, for, well, it's the brain through which we perceive it. I realize perfectly that, first and foremost, physics is merely a product of how we perceive this world, and the real deal (provided it does exist) may or may not function the way we perceive it.
Anyway, I think I should be the one accusing you of shifting the subject now, for you started to dig too deep and trying to ask me questions I never said I would answer. I gave you a model that can simulate human behaviour precisely within confines of our perception, but what more do you want?
>>55793355
mfw Ayn Rand tier capitalist fedoralords will witness Marx's predictions become reality as automation abolishes capitalism
>>55798322
Encryption will soon be obsolete. To quote the OP:
>DWAVE... just sold a 1000+ Qubit 2X quantum computer to national security research institution Los Alamos
Once they are able to program this thing, which shouldn't take long at all, they will be able to break even the most complex forms of encryption that we have today.
>some dude who keeps up with this shit here
Quantum computers exist, they're shit though. They can maybe do some multiplication and that's about it.
AI can't exist atm, not possible.
there's no lasers in space currently and computers have no way of organizing a space flight or build a ship of any kind in anyway.
quit being derp
>>55798621
I only heard about quantum computers making asymmetric encryption useless, not symmetric.
> Parallel universe's
Stopped watching there. How did this guy get on a stage?
>>55798621
then you just switch to unbreakable codes, which very much exist you dunce
>>55798556
>A MODEL THAT CAN BE USED TO SIMULATE HUMAN BEHAVIOUR
If what you said is a model, then being a model doesn't mean much at all.
All you said was
>For most people, the thought of his own death as a solution to some problem produces an extremely unpleasant sensation i.e. a negative response from the brain, which is complete opposite to a state it's trying to achieve. For some it doesn't, in which case you end up with durkas that blow themselves up, because their brain is structured in such a way as to think that afterlife really does exist and is the place where their brain will produce an extremely positive response, and we are back to what I said in the beginning
There's no model of human behavior in there at all. You just asserted that the brain is trying to achieve a positive response and avoid negative ones. Which does not *AT ALL* answer the question I posed to you, which was and is
>why *WOULD the brain want to keep itself alive?
>>55798733
>one-time pads are feasible forms of encryption
said no-one, ever
>>55794042
^ this
>>55793867
>tips power armor helmet
>>55798787
You can also use quantum computers to encrypt things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cryptography
>>55794133
^^like above, companies probably need even more expensive insurance on a robot than the basic legal minimum for a human being, maintenance, repair, power consumption etc.
All it has to work out to is "Is this robot that will last for X years and cost X to buy cost more than employing a person for X amount".
>>55798900
*decrypt :^)
>>55798556
Would you like me to insult you so you can use that as an excuse to leave this conversation and avoid looking more silly?
I can grant you that mercy, since I don't think you're equipped to talk about this subject on the level I'm asking you to.
>>55794485
Because people are willing to swear up and down that usable quantum computers don't exist yet
>>55798942
Encrypt.
>The best known example of quantum cryptography is quantum key distribution which offers an information-theoretically secure solution to the key exchange problem. Currently used popular public-key encryption and signature schemes (e.g., RSA and ElGamal) can be broken by quantum adversaries. The advantage of quantum cryptography lies in the fact that it allows the completion of various cryptographic tasks that are proven or conjectured to be impossible using only classical (i.e. non-quantum) communication (see below for examples). For example, It is impossible to copy data encoded in a quantum state and the very act of reading data encoded in a quantum state changes the state. This is used to detect eavesdropping in quantum key distribution.
>>55798621
this is wrong m8
>>55796120
I am not shitting you, how do I find a place like that in America. I'm trying to leave this cesspool of a city and establish a family in the country. I don't care about total earning potential but the cost of living.
>>55799148
Well, I say that your post is wrong. Now what?
>>55793505
it's more a topic for sci actually
>>>/sci/
>>55793225
>we can exploit those other universes
What does that mean? I know it's just a choice of words but is there like a potential for a quantum war with other universes?
Forgive my /lay/ness but what the hell does that mean? Is it possible for this technology to have consequences in another universe?
faster processing means little in terms of ai when you dont have a 1 terabyte program thats been coded for a century by 1000 new programmers every 10 years
quantum computers are not even new. google went halfses with nasa to build probably the best one in the western world and thats years old. china probably dropped 1 tril on making a better one when they found out nasa was getting one
>>55793764
Quantum computing isn't directly faster than normal binary computing, they are actually quite slow in terms of operations per second.
But since the bitrate increases exponentially rather than sequentially, it's possible to design algorithms that take advantage of this and do more work, exponentially more work, per operation.
We are going to need new encryption standards, a working matured quantum computer would be capable of breaking even the strongest encryptions in real time, something that would take even the biggest supercomputers today hundreds of years.
I'm looking forward to seeing what it will do for chemists, physicist, biologists and any other field that crave computing power, it's going to accelerate research even more than traditional computers ever did
>>55799154
Rural Illinois is nice, but Illinois is still a shitty state due to Chicago controlling the state government. Alaska and Wyoming are probably the best bets.
>>55799226
Pic related
>>55799154
I dwell in such an area
you can't get by on 70 bucks a day 5 days a week. Unless you're neet.
>>55793764
Wrong quantum entanglement mean instantaneous everything. Say you have an 8 million digit complex password , it will instantly run every possibility and Crack said password, which means any warhead that requires a launch code is compromised overnight, meaning all cyber security is obsolete, meaning we can run infinite algorithms for any unconfirmed or early stage hypothesis and either get the result or disprove them. If integrated in a standard network it may have issues pushing outward because the rest of the network cant hold up to it. But if used correctly , we will have a scientific boom like no other.
>>55799154
Wait, nevermind - I always forget cost of living in Alaska is actually not the greatest because I want to live there.
Wyoming is great though.
>>55799200
Encryption is all brute force to crack it, comparing data sets and what not.
Quantum computers are horrible and to have one that can compare to today's computer would have to be huge. Like building sized even.
You need a super cooled atom (I think it's gold) and you need to be able to measure that. The device that stores that is already 4x the size of a normal desktop computer.
Nice try Google shill. Actual self aware AI isn't even going to happen in this century.
>google is creating groundbreaking world changing technology! h-honest! please buy more shares!!!
Report this thread for spam
>>55798741
All right, are you baiting now or you just couldn't finish reading the whole post?
>why WOULD it want to keep itself alive?
I told you why: it's the structure. Neurons in the brain are wired in such a way as to trigger the release of chemicals that would affect neurons in another part of the brain.
>>55798945
Do you want me to call you out, since you are probably some shitty philosopher who sits on his ass all day, doing nothing, but muttering about how difficult everything is?
You still have not provided a single counter-example to that model.
>>55798621
I think encryption has already been obsolete for some time. The government has been employing quantum computing for a while now. I think that 128-bit RSA isn't even recommended anymore.
I'm guessing that Russian, US, and Chinese governments employ different encryption technologies than what's available to the public, and even then, their solutions probably aren't failproof. Or maybe not considering a lot of average Joes aren't affiliated with any government and would probably be aware if such a technology or thread existed, since they're the ones working at Intel and other such companies developing these technologies.
>>55799292
I live/have lived with 4-6 other people in a small apartment. Rent was 500 a month + water (usually around 30) + electric (usually around 30) + internet (50-ish). Split that many ways it was way easy.
>>55794495
>masturbate to cartoon ponies
NOW THIS IS POD RACING
>>55793225
>cool quantum video yayyy.avi
>open vid
>not kaku
fake and gay !
>>55799491
You're a bong and you probably like clocks.
There you go.
>>55799531
ah I was thinking solo
I could never live with that many people agian
>>55799391
Those huge quantum computers you describe already exist, and they are being worked on right now. I'm not sure what you mean by "they are horrible" - can you even fathom how much computation a 1024qbit quantum computer can do?
A 512qbit computer can analyze more data than there are atoms in the observable universe. See: https://youtu.be/0dXNmbiGPS4?t=492
From 8:12
>>55798580
why do so few recognize this fact?
>>55799580
Lets summarise our conversation:
>I provided you with a model that can be used to simulate human behaviour precisely
>you just shifted the subject and ran away
Nice talking to you, burger. Keep living up to them stereotypes.
>>55793225
Emergence of quantum computers are a massive threat to cryptography. Codes that were considered "too costly" to crack by brute force are now becoming increasingly unsafe.
The mathematical foundations of modern cryptography relies on the fact that it's simply unfeasible to compute hard problems for large numbers. With quantum computers, the era of safe encryption will come to a halt.
>>55794998
>>55794777
Could you try to sperg a little harder m8s? I'm not sure you're getting autism completely all over this thread yet
People mean "boxed intelligence" systems when they say "AI". Get over it, it's common syntax
Quantum systems approach ridiculous metrics of accuracy when they approximate NP-complete and NP-hard problems, which IBM's Deep Blue has never even approached attempting. We'd need a processor the size of the moon in order to brute-force solutions that a few qubits could run. It's a completely novel computer technology
Dictating limits and minimizing the scope of the impact of a new technology has never turned out well, you dingus
As in literally ever
>>55799770
I'm a really mellow guy. I stick to my room and do my own dishes/trash and let them do whatever. Most people don't like it though, and that's understandable.
>>55799893
>I provided you with a model
>thinking "For most people, the thought of his own death as a solution to some problem produces an extremely unpleasant sensation i.e. a negative response from the brain, which is complete opposite to a state it's trying to achieve. For some it doesn't, in which case you end up with durkas that blow themselves up, because their brain is structured in such a way as to think that afterlife really does exist and is the place where their brain will produce an extremely positive response, and we are back to what I said in the beginning" constitutes a model
You should really just let this lie bonglord.
>>55799910
>overblowing the significance of an iterative technology works out better
>>55799782
The human brain is a quantam computer and what have you been smoking?
Analyze more atoms than in the observable universe. Considering that cannot be observed I'm going to assume it's just bullshit.
Whenever someone says something so crazy it sounds like it was completely made up I call it a Hawking.
My other favorite hawkings from the past.
Philosophy is dead.
There is no god.
With the rules of the universe existing anything could happen, and did.
>>55793873
Is there another video? All I'm seeing is image recognition software hooked up to Siri's annoying robot voice
>>55800152
>brain is quantum computer
>>55800152
>the observable universe cannot be observed
Burger, pls...
>>55799782
Just like the enigma computer built in ww2, it's horribly huge and inefficient. With time it'll be sized down.
I will do more research but these computers were only built a few years ago, they're not that great yet.
>>55800152
"What breathes fire into the equations?"
>>55799391
>Quantum computers are horrible and to have one that can compare to today's computer would have to be huge. Like building sized even.
You, circa 1960:
"Pfft, electronics will never take off, have you seen how big a computer needs to be in order to replace an abacus? Like the size of a house even"
Fuck you.
>>55800034
If it can be used to describe all the human actions, then yes, it does constitute a model. Wait, do you want me to go over the learning and decision making process as well? Because I would need a lot more than 2000 words 4chan can allow to thoroughly describe this, so that even people like you could understand.
Also, you have shifted the subjects again, but w/e, I expected nothing more from a trip.
>>55800152
>The human brain is a quantum computer
Nigger you are legit retarded
>>55800295
I think you're missing the point slightly - they ARE that great, because the way they work is fundamentally different to the way our current computers work.
If you want to do more research, the video I posted further up is a good start.
>>55800458
see>>55800295
I'm aware of what i'm saying m8, and i'm aware of history. I never mentioned the future of them I said currently they're shit.
yfw quantum physics
>>55800482
>If it can be used to describe all the human actions
You can describe all of human actions in terms of Freudian psychoanalysis. That doesn't make Freudian psychoanalysis a model for what's actually happening.
>>55800588
yea breh i know how they work
Just a reminder that there is no scientific consensus on whether D-Wave's machines are even quantum computers.
>>55800670
You can't, though.
>>55800596
I'm just excited to find new ways of hacking as these are all new to everyone.
>>55799273
Oh shit, I want interdimensional TV and a portal gun.
fuck that, just a portal gun, I could live out my adventures till the end of my days.
>>55801269
until you get lost and are forced to wander the universe until your battery dies, in which case you're stuck in a nightmarish universe wishing you had stopped at the burrito universe.
Whatever it may be it's not going to be anything that'll benefit the common man and it won't be available to us for a long period of time.
Hope you're enjoying your renamed cpu's because i'm sure that's going to be a thing for 10 more years still.
![be7[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TTRZauH.png "be7[1].png")
>>55800596
>>55798580
socialism only works with automation. Only we have passed automation. Now machines are capable of automating themselves. This is the only time socialism would ever work.
>>55793378
neets are literally muslim nigger reddit feminists
>>55800943
That model can be checked with physics though, thanks to neuroimaging tools. The only obstacle as of now is either the noise (if we talk about EEG) or relatively huge time delays if we talk about fMRI.
>>55801847
>That model can be checked with physics though, thanks to neuroimaging tools
No it can't. The binding problem and multiple realizability are *real things* that neuroscience has *no idea* what to do with.
>>55793355
Hitachi can't even design a hard drive that makes it outside of its warrant period without crapping out, and they've figured out how to predict the future?
forgive me if i doubt this claim.
I can't wait for our quantum AI overlords to eradicate the human race. What a glorious time to be alive.
>>55801945
So we went from intentionality to how exactly our brain processes visual information? Keep on shifting the subject.
>>55802136
A Finnish man, so struck with grief and hopelessness. He succumbed to Nihilism and envy, wishing for the destruction of the world. All because he found out he's not white.
>>55802657
You never talked about intentionality coherently to begin with. I restated what you must have meant by your words, and then you objected to that and reworded what you'd said such that it wasn't saying anything about intentionality at all. This is laughably sad bong. Learn some philosophy of mind.
>>55802743
They'll spare us when they realize that quantum computers can't come up with good memes.
>>55802854
this to be honest family
Quantum Computers are great but what makes me very anally frustrated is that they can break encryption easily. Your 1024-bit RSA is useless once the NSA forces Google to help them with their shenanigans.
>>55802854
What good memes do Finns have?
>>55803031
The whole Spurdo family? Mämmi+Sauna? And our newest category of sub-memes, Gondola?
I should know, I wrote my bachelor's degree on memeology and personal meme-identities regarding board culture.
>>55803210
Are you pursuing a master's? What will your meme-theses be?
>>55802075
kek'd
>>55798580
>implying the government won't spend a ton of money training people to fix these automated machines
I'm going to bed. Good luck with that whole "AI" thing, though you'll need a whole lot more than just luck.
>>55793225
LIKE OMG! YOU TOTALLY GOT TRIGGERED BY A GLORIFIED D-WAVE INFOMERCIAL
Tone of voice! An awkward suspense. Big claims. Impending doom and internalized insecurity.
No different than Abrahamic end times cult faggots.
>>55804655
>no sensationalism
Goes on to watch an infomercial full of sensationalism.
So does this mean that quantum immortality is real?
>>55793355
>Not only that, but we'll even be able to PREDICT CRIME BEFORE IT HAPPENS
Oh boy, I'll go get my thought crime concealer helmet ready.
>>55805309
RARE
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>>55805845
They don't mean minority report shit. It's basically an exaggerated way of saying "we can lower our response times a bit"
>>55793841
google is genesis
>>55793225
time to update all our encryption products with PQ (post quantum) algorithms, if they actually even exist.
the american government will have total observability over intercepted encrypted internet traffic when they have quantum computers, the internet is about to get a lot more shitty.
>>55806670
you know they've had the capacity to break any encryption for years yeah? this is just the public rollout of the technology
>>55793275
Australia shit posting everytime....i ask why? it's just jews that find fine using australians proxies?
>>55797489
One day, we are going to have to realize that we made some crucial philosophical errors after '45. We created all of these premises from materialism, that have just clouded our understanding with paradoxes.
However. Since we won't, AI is off the table. Even worse, since we also reject Teleology, Social 'Science' is off the table as well. More Social 'Technology' (Organizational form) has been conceived in a fruitful year of the 20th century than our entire existence in the 21st century.
I don't much care about the implications, I just want to know if I can buy one to replace my i7 4790k.
>>55798470
Are you French or something? And the lunch break obviously doesn't count towards the 8h work time, have you ever actually had a job?
>>55793225
it's overblown
>>55799007
ultra-rare flag
>people who have no idea how difficult AI programming is saying "perfect robots" shit
Yeah you can kill yourselves now.
>>55793225
>From the DWAVE guy... This will change history, you do realize, all the Islams and the terrorisms and the Russias and whatever you're thinking is important, will be dwarfed by this.
made me reply.
>>55806964
>>55806670
...
Do you guys realize how crazy that is?
The government may have the ability to decrypt all public encryptions but not ALL.
Infact public encryptions are strong as well, again it's all brute force shit. Resources and what not.
Observing the internet? Are you shitting me? Do you realize the amount of shit you'd need for that? Don't be retarded.
>>55793275
Oh hey quantum computing! Lets watch OP's vid-
>parallel universes
That's not the most accepted hypothesis among researchers of the area. This is smelling like bullshit.
You know all those science fiction stories were meant to be a warning right?
You know they were meant to signal you shouldn't create those things, right?
Why did google make it's official slogan, "we are not evil"?
Why didn't we stop it?
>>55793225
on my birthday? gr8
>>55797193
Prolly not :(
