It's now the perfect opportunity to use this argument with it's full potential. I can already see all the lib heads exploding.
>>55778707
My nigga right here. Let's do this.
Liberal response will be something like.
>but no one NEEDS a gun
>people can't help being a muslims
>>55778707
>Liberals responding to rational arguments
Expecting that is like trying to bang your head into a wall hoping to get paid for it.
>>55778707
fallacy.
the 80 million gun owners are potentialy dangerous because they own a gun, they can kill on sight just by bying it in some store. You don't know if they are mentally ill, stupid or impulsive.
the muslims by definition don't own a gun. Their religion has nothing to do with their dangerosity.
>>55779029
>the 80 million gun owners are potentialy dangerous because they own a gun,
this is a thought crime, automatically assuming people are dangerous because of something flagrantly made up is genuinely a thought crime
>>55779029
The issue is not the tool. It is whether the motivation exists to use it.
Islam motivates people to act violently against westerners. It is more dangerous than a tool which is harmless until the wrong person wields it.
>>55779115
well, will you remind me the constant mass shootings happening in USA because every one (even the mentally disturbed, and psycotics) can own a gun and shoot on sight ?
>>55779029
>Their religion has nothing to do with their dangerosity
So what happened in your country didn't have any radical religious undertones to it? I get that the vast majority of Muslims are not like this, but the radical few do.
Ideas are bulletproof. They can distort and destroy
>>55779261
Remind me how gun control kept the weapons out of the hands of the Paris attackers?
>>55779261
>mentally disturbed, and psycotics
Actually it is against the law for mentally ill persons to own guns. They could go to prison! LOL...
>>55779261
>Paris, France - among the worst mass killings of all time
How did those strict gun laws help you last night?
>>55779029
Also, you just posted an even bigger fallacy
>Potentially
Slippery slope
Same argument for when feminists say that all men are "potential" rapists because they make up most of the rape perpetrator statistics.
This is called logic.
Exposing hypocrisy. It is a beautiful thing.
>>55779029
>potentially
slippery slope fallacy - something like a fraction of 1% of gun owners in America are responsible for shooting deaths. This is a poor argument if you want to talk about meaningful statistics.
On the other hand, in the Koran, it says that beheading those who do not believe in Allah is permitted by law. So there is that. So 100% of Muslims are POTENTIALLY killers
>>55779346
and you forgot manlets.
>>55778798
>people can't help being Muslims
Well yeah, because they're KILLED for leaving the religion.
>>55778707
well-said, OP.
>>55779291
yes, but it's not a muslim feature to kill people with guns. Religion has nothing to do with the probability one will kill with a gun. On the other end, when you allow every single individual to own a gun, not only you include the potential muslim extremists that will use it to kill, but you also include every single other person that can have a reason to use a gun to kill.
>>55778798
>but no one NEEDS a gun
I dunno. I think the people killed in Paris might have liked to have one.
>>55778707
>>55779346
it's faggots like you that drag us normal gun owning people down with your, "hey, look at me!" bullshit whenever something tragic happens.
let me guess, you're a fag?
>>55779571
Does killing someone with a gun matter more than killing someone another way?
So you just don't like guns, but killing in general is okay with you?
>>55779650
>noguns detected
>>55778707
That's just... Wonderful
>>55779571
I think owning and making a bomb are illegal here....
>>55779595
How are you gonna shoot the guy with the bomb strapped to his chest? you fucking retard
>>55779846
Being in possession of a bomb. I should say instead of owning.
>>55779374
dats why most of the shootings in the US are perpertraded by complete schizophrenics ...
>>55779386
It's only a matter of statistics as you said, if 80% of the population owns a gun, it is normal that a few percent commit crimes with it.
Also, US police know that every citizen is potencialy carryin a gun ... They won't hesitate to kill on sight only based on the assumption they have a gun.
>>55779466
>it says that beheading those who do not believe in Allah is permitted by law. So there is that. So 100% of Muslims are POTENTIALLY killers
The same way you guys have the "stand your ground" law and are allowed to kill on sight just because you feel your propriety has been violated
But gun owners aren't judged. It's the gun control laws that are judged.
>>55779696
>ad hominem as rebuttal
so you do suck dicks, I see
and I'm sure you are a "three percenter"
faggot
>>55779261
>>55779378
>>55779341
#REKT
>>55779571
But you just said it yourself
>a REASON to use a gun to kill
It's not the gun itself that's causing the killings, it's the demeanor and the reason for that person using the gun.
For example, what if someone killed someone for a just cause? Like what if someone killed the attackers with a gun of their own at the Bataclan before the attackers used their guns to kill the innocents?
You're automatically making the assumption that everyone who uses a gun, or quite simply owns one has the potential to use it negatively.
I am not denying that if there are more guns per capita in a population, then shooting rates will be higher. There should be background checks, and other legislation in place to make sure those guns do not fall in place of people with mental illnesses.
But all this "potential" bullshit is a fallacy. Like I said before, the same argument as if someone is a male, they have the "potential" to be a rapist
Also, religion does include the probability for one to kill with a gun, just as any ideology that can be zealous. I don't know why you think in such a nihilistic fashion about it. You're pretending that the demeanor or goal for a person doesn't get factored into why they kill a person, when in fact, that's the WHOLE reason why they kill a person, not the tool they use to execute it. As you can see, suicide bombings, beheadings, and stonings are just as effective, and they all carry the same demeanor, goal, and purpose; not the same tool.
You do realise that you actually shape public opinion by posting stuff like this, right? We post shit like this up here all the time for a laff, not realising that 90% of the slime that coats this board actually aligns its world view to the content we provide. This stuff gets through the web and then people who have never even heard of /pol/ get their hands on it and actually absorb it as information, not parody.
You are a more powerful propaganda machine than you think, anonymous /pol/ poster. Do you really want to be using it this way?
>>55779899
depending on the explosives used. gun shots wouldn't set it off.
>>55778707
What's the big fucking deal how you kill someone? Murder Is murder. Why are there campaigns to remove the tool used to kill? Like knives or guns, when they should be focusing on the fucking killers.
Killers and criminals are always going to find a way to kill.
>>55779988
Few places here actually have that law. In order to use it in those few places, you have to be in life threatening danger.
You don't NEED Islam. You're endangering people by having it. Your kids are more likely to become suicide bombers than be saved by Islamic teachings.
Ban Islam!
>>55780073
You're insulted by being accused of owning no guns? How insecure are you, beta man faggot
>>55779261
Tell the people at that concert waiting 30 minutes for "their turn."
>>55779672
A gun can raise a dangerous individual's destructive capability tenfold.
>>55778798
Then feel free to throw social conditioning in their face. Nobody is born religious.
>>55780513
Clearly so can converting to islam or taking the koran literally.
>>55780178
yeah I was surprised to see #MerciMerkel take off
In this country in 2011:
1. There were 12,664 homocides. 6220 were by handguns, 323 were by rifles, 356 were by shotguns, 97 were by all other firearms combined. By contrast, 1694 were by sharp objects, 496 were by blunt objects, and 728 were by "personal weapons" that is, just beating people to death with your bare hands. More people are beaten to death then die to shotguns and rifles combined in this country each year.
2. There were 135,557 accidental deaths. 600 were firearm related.
3. There were 41,449 suicides. 21,175 were firearm related.
These are the facts stripped of propaganda. Based on them were can infer.
1. Any gun control argument based on the strength of the firearm can be completely dismissed without argument. Handguns are the weapon of crime, machine guns are not. Life is not a cartoon, people do not rob stores with tanks.
2. Any appeal to accidents can be thrown out on the grounds of irrelevancy.
Therefore the only positions left for the gun control advocate is to claim that suicides being made easier by firearms is a good reason to limit our liberty, or that small arms should be banned. Of course, small arms are used hilariously more often in self defense then in crime, so banning them would lead to a net rise in the crime rate, as happened in Australia, as happened in the United Kingdom.
That or they can continue to grandstand on the bodies of dead children and feign moral superiority. I think we know which one they'll do.
Citations:
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm
>>55780117
>You're automatically making the assumption that everyone who uses a gun, or quite simply owns one has the potential to use it negatively.
you're right because you can use the example of Swtizerland where everyone has a gun but there is no mass shooting at all but ...
>what if someone killed someone for a just cause?
What is a just cause ? What is the limit between the just cause and simple homicide ?
>But all this "potential" bullshit is a fallacy.
No, because you obviously will incrase the killing rate with guns if everyone can own one ... Make the analogy with the atomic bomb ... If everyone had it, everyone would be using it because it woulnd't represent a threat anymore.
> just as any ideology that can be zealous
Yes but see OP image. He based his assumption on the fact that muslims in particular are prone to kill
>>55780472
do you want to be reminded of Columbia ?
>>55779988
>Also, US police know that every citizen is potencialy carryin a gun ... They won't hesitate to kill on sight only based on the assumption they have a gun.
Bullshit, Brazilian police kills much more than US police. And we have no guns.
Oh sorry, I just thought I would give you a fact...
>>55778707
>>55781075
>>55778798
Religion is a choice, so is owning a gun
>>55780764
>what is the line
Self defense of your life or someone else's obviously you fucking retard.
>>55780972
Yes, because your policia militar gets also killed every day in the favela.
Now try to tell me that your police won't be prone to kill when the guys in front of them use bazookas and assult rifles ?
>>55780764
>What is a just cause? What is the limit between the just cause and simple homicide?
Foucault, go to sleep.
Obviously -
Ban births to unmarried women...
>>55780764
>What is a just cause?
I gave you an example man
OP's image doesn't imply anything about Muslims being prone to kill
I also stated what you stated. I will be inevitable that more guns per capita = more gun deaths. But you made it sound like it was the gun ITSELF that gave potential to killings. Not the reason for the person to use the gun to kill someone.
Which again I stated. Yes, more men are rapists, but saying that all men have the potential to be rapists simply because they are men (predominate gender in rape stats) is a slippery slope.
I don't want to keep repeating myself here. Me and you are pretty much on the same page when it comes to gun control, but you're argument goes along the lines of the gun itself being the reason for the killings, when it is most definitely not. It is simply a powerful tool, which can be dangerously effective when matched with an end goal like mass killing Westerners, or wanting to kill people at a school.
Both of these tasks can be done with other tools of killing, it's just the gun can do it effectively and quickly. You're thinking I'm a gun nut, but I'm not. You're just arguing a fallacy.
>>55780466
>beta man faggot
sorry, i din't realize english wasn't your first language.
are you a jap?
>>55781144
sure, dats why you fucking kill a child runing in your backyard just because you need to defend yourself of nothing else but your complete lack of judgment and your severe autism.
That mexican guy killing a black child in is yard is the perfect example on how you're certain to be "defending yourself" rite ?
>>55779650
Really? Gun owners are the ones that use tragedies to push their agendas? How does this bring down *normal* gun owners? Come the fuck on.
>implying I'M the faggot
>>55781181
Could you do one of homicides and % blacks? Perhaps a different result?
>>55781146
Well, I tough gun control would prevent those guys from getting bazookas and assult rifles.
>>55781423
>Could you do one of homicides and % blacks?
But that would be racist! :D
>>55779899
With precision
>>55781447
yes, the only problem is that these traficantes have so much power now that the gun control legislation is useless. But Why ? Because Brazil has been absolutely terrible in social and criminal politics
>>55781416
are you the faggot making every headline about you and how you are being maligned by the "man?"
if so, then yes, you are the faggot.
>>55779029
the muslims can also "kill on site"
any person can suddenly decide to kill others.
any muslim can suddenly decide to kill people.
any gun owner can suddenly decide to kill people.
there is no difference.
>>55781544
I guess it's OK if HuffPo does it....
>>55781330
>the gun ITSELF that gave potential to killings
yes, without the gun, the best you can do is trying to kill with your bear hands.
>It is simply a powerful tool
given to completely irresponsable, unaducated, stupid people.
>with an end goal
Do you really thin someone has to have a goal to start using a gun like a vulgar toy ?
>Both of these tasks can be done with other tools of killing
Yes but again, why is it the gun ? because it is freely availalble (the same way knifes are freely available, but no one seems to want to kill with those)
>>55781279
>>55781368
>Muh chilluns!
every time.
When that 'child' that was totally on his way to church after attending collage tries to bash your face in for no reason... well some people are more into living through a violent attack rather then bending over and taking a pounding before being murdered
>>55781544
dindu nuffin'
>>55779029
>dangerosity
My froggey friend, you have made a most funny word up.
I'm going to use it in a sentence some time.
Thanks frog!
>>55781830
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
>Worst school killing in history
>home made bombs
>not a single shot fired
>>55782022
I'm happy to dig out some british vocabulary that you guys haven't been exposed for centuries now
>>55780513
>implying this is a bad thing
>>55778707
Why would you need a gun and it's almost 2016?
>>55779029
>their religion has nothing to do with their dangerosity.
Tell that to the families in Paris faggot.
>>55781982
Wait, Zimzam was actually assaulted by Traytray and that's when he got shot?
How is this a controversy again?
>>55779988
Checked x4
>>55781587
>the only problem is that these traficantes have so much power now that the gun control legislation is useless.
And how do you think they got so much power? Maybe because they are the only people in the Favelas who are allowed/unafraid to own guns? The Leader of a Favela is no different than a tyrant, he only allow his dogs to own guns (for obvious reasons).
Then we have this situation:
1) Good people in Favelas are not allowed to own guns legally due the state.
2) Good people in Favelas are not allowed to own guns illegally due the Drug dealers (clandestine government).
Brazil was a more safe when we could own guns, you can look at statistics or just ask any elderly person. That is why today - even when we are bombed by corporate media and George Soros backed organizations - We are becoming more and more pro-gun.
>>55781830
Restricting guns in Australia has not altered the trends in murder rates.
Majority of gun related deaths in Australia are with illegal firearms.
If you think that restricting guns in America of all places is going to work you are simply retarded. Guns are restricted in your country, how did that work out?
>>55778707
That could easily be done toe the conservative who hold the reverse opinion.
So /pol/, are the western shooters and muslism terrorists the acts of a few?
>>55782233
You're making the assumption that the sand niggers that attacked my city were muslims. Either way your argument doesn't stand because they do not represent a majority of muslims.
Therefore their religion does not equal dangerosity.
If I would use the same lame logic you used, I would say : but because most of the time I see Obese and disgusting americans eating Mcdonalds, everyone of them must be like that !
>>55782264
It wasnt, 'stand your ground' wasn't even invoked in his defense (it literally wasnt needed) but in the age of social media the shit storm and birth of wide spread dinduism happened because it was a slow media week and poor black people are often times useful idiots due to the nature of their communities and promises of free money by blaming oppression on everyone else but themselves.
>>55781589
What the fuck are you even talking about? Any "normal" gun owner would probably agree with my OP.
Post pic of your guns or shut your faggot lying mouth and quit shitting up the thread for no apparent reason.
>>55778707
No. Gunfags are cancer. And what's worst is they're wrong about everything they claim. Even the UK is about 3 times safer than America.
>>55782464
And this /pol/, is why France is doomed.
There is no waking up from liberalism.
>>55782382
>And how do you think they got so much power?
see >>55781587 again and read it all.
>they are the only people in the Favelas who are allowed/unafraid to own guns?
Sure, cos these guys are fucking gods and they never get killed. And what do you have to say regarding to the favelas pacificadas ?
>Good people
What are good people ? see >>55781273
for a lazy quick response
>>55782464
>Either way your argument doesn't stand because they do not represent a majority of muslims
I tend to agree with you, but you need to tell me what you consider extreme Muslims. Just terrorists? Or people that also are in favor of Sharia Law?
>>55778707
Nobody needs guns just like nobody needs Muslims fuck both of them. You are buying into the Jewry that we must fight, down with the kikes
>>55781416
What the fuck were the libs doing by promoting gun control?
>>55782669
don't be so pessimist, cheer up, FUCK !
>>55782464
>Either way your argument doesn't stand because they do not represent a majority of muslims
You need to tell me what you consider extreme Muslims. Just terrorists? Or people that also are in favor of Sharia Law? I can also use that same argument and say that Brazilians are not murders, although we have almost 60,000 homicides per year and we keep growing.
>>55782699
I consider extreme muslims to be converted sand niggers, lost souls who will blow themselve up because their miserable life and their low IQ do not allow them to live a peaceful, pussy filled, spiritual life
>>55780940
It's in the U.S Constitution. The majority of citizens have a different mentality than Columbia.
>>55779029
I can't tell if you're an actual kek or if Pierre is stepping up his bantz game. Good job.
>>55782669
Also I was testing your small hability to handle a ... Conversation and more precisely an argument. But we've come to the conclusion that your genes, unfortunately, aren't what a Master race is looking for. Don't bear children, please.
>>55783071
what are your profound taughts about this ?
>>55783071
He's just upset cause he was hoping to get culturally enriched like the 129 others but the sand niggers blew themselves up before it was his turn.
>>55782555
face it, you are just as fucking despicable as any other bleeding heart "look at me" faggot.
you just HAVE to make sure your voice is heard, even though you don't have shit to say.
you are the cancer that kills the 2nd.
and this is coming from a californian gun owner.
>>55783104
>>55783104
5'9 130lbs soaking wet frenchy talking about master race genetics. I can't stop laughing
>>55779261
Hello, French Bro.
Take a look at your countries yearly deaths from vehicular accidents.
Compare it to the rest of the western world.
Now realize that by your own logic, you should outlaw cars in your country the same way you outlawed gun.
Then, maybe, but not likely, you'll realize how fucking stupid you are.
-A half french Canuk who knows you're retarded.
>>55782681
>see >>55781587 again and read it all.
Drug dealers got power precisely because the government took the guns from everyone, witch part of this you can't understand?
>Sure, cos these guys are fucking gods and they never get killed.
Yes, they get killed. And then they are replaced by another one. It is a systematic problem not about killing X and Y.
>And what do you have to say regarding to the favelas pacificadas
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No, amigo. Favelas pacificadas are "pacificadas" in name only. Ask that to anyone that lives in one.
>>55782633
Here's your reply.
Now go fuck off to tumblr where you can circle jerk your hug box fantasies and moan about the government not taking care of you like a totalitarian parent
>>55783277
Sorry, I don't get your mesurments. In my country you weight in kg and mesure in cm. Go back to Christiana, smoke some pot, chill, grab a bike in Copenague, and don't forget to breed, your inbred genetics are precious to us.
>>55783365
>Favelas pacificadas are "pacificadas" in name only. Ask that to anyone that lives in one.
Morrei 3 meses no alto vidigal no Rio nunca tive problemas.
>>55783605
That's silly. Cops carry guns to murder unarmed black children
>>55783365
And by the way, leftists admit the failure of "Favelas Pacificadas", not just me.
>>55778707
>>55778798
>>55779595
>>55779595
>Be at the Bataclan
>Enjoying shitty concert
>Suddenly hear the gunshots
>Panic, do what any normal human being in a situation would do, which is run to the nearest exit
>But wait, you remember you're packing
>I'll show those terrorist scum who they're messing with!
>Be within range of a gunner
>Pull out your gun
>About to become a hero
>Suddenly remember this is real life and you're not rambo and even if you manage to hit the gunner, he or his buddy would shoot at you back
>Not only did you not defended anyone but now you're dead because you wanted to play hero like in your fantasies.
>As you're lying in the floor in agony, bleeding and dying you realize that if you weren't such a dumb fucking gun nut you might had survived and seen your family again.
>>55783721
And they also get killed by PTSD'd veterans. What a beautiful job.
>>55783548
We do so too here, but because I'm not autistic, I have no problem using either units. Maybe if you weren't so proud of literally achieving nothing in all of history, your country wouldn't be the laughing stock of Europe, and you wouldn't be the laughing stock of this thread, skinnyboi.
>>55783365
I heard you guys may be taking a giant step toward freedom in the firearms department sometime soon, albeit a long shot. Good luck.
>>55779988
That's not how "stand your ground" works. As perviously stated, not all states have this law. I live in one that does have it and I am familiar with it. If you are not being assaulted then you can not just kill someone. If you feel threatened but they have not actually assaulted you yet, then you have to inform them that if they come any closer you will shoot. You can not just pull your gun and fire. The point is, you do not have to run away at the sign of danger. You can pull your weapon and warn the person. If they continue to come towards you then you can shoot.
Admittedly, many of the laws are kind of silly. Do not shoot someone in the leg. Such an act could be deemed illegal. You can not shoot someone in your yard, you have to wait for them to enter the house. (Unless you are in your yard and you are standing your ground.) My point was if someone is breaking in then you have to wait for them to break in before killing them.
Unfortunately, there are many moronic cases here in America. I remember a case a few years ago where a man broke into someone's house. He cut himself on the window while breaking in and then sued the homeowner (and won.) Same thing with a guy trying to break into a house and fell through the roof.
>>55783757
>don't take risks
>you might fail
fuck off
>>55783757
>Be within range of a gunner
>gettin instantely killed
>Pull out your gun
>Pulling out your dick cos you don't have a gun
>About to become a hero
About to getting suck by theses fagotts cos you pulled out your dick
>Not only did you not defended anyone but
>you came all over their face
>As you're lying in the floor
>Please like Ceasar in the aftermath of a homosexual orgy
>you realize that if you weren't such a dumb fucking gun nut you might had
get some fresh roman slave pussy
>>55783669
Gringo, por favor. Vidigal é uma favela de turismo. Se eu ficar em Campos do Jordão ou Gramado por três meses (visite, é bem bonito), eu certamente não serei assaltado. Alias, o Brasil não é violento ao ponto de você ser assaltado por mais de 4 vezes por ano.
>>55783207
I'm not quite sure how I am seeking attention by posting on an anonymous catholic hymm exchange board? Please explain.
>tells me I'm killing the 2nd
>lives in California
>>55784044
Gringo, please. Vidigal is a tourist slum. If I stay in Campos do Jordao or lawn for three months (visit, it is quite beautiful), I certainly will not be robbed. By the way, Brazil is not violent to the point of you being robbed by more than 4 times per year.
>>55779029
>Their religion has nothing to with it
Islamic Doctrine. As Kafir, we may as well be dogs to them.
>>55784102
>>55780242
Yup, if nigs didn't have guns they would still be killing each other with rocks and spears.
>>55784145
Thank you, ameribro.
>>55780513
Only in trained hands. You can't expect someone to go buy a gun and just kill 30 people. You have to buy the right gun with the right ammunition and be able to use it effectively.
>>55782633
That's very un-American of you.
>>55783951
>If you are not being assaulted then you can not just kill someone.
I can feel I'm being assaulted by the only fact someone is tresspassing
>then you have to inform them that if they come any closer you will shoot.
It's a matter of seconds, you can tell them and the second after shoot them. Who will assure you warned them before ?
>The point is, you do not have to run away at the sign of danger.
Nor do you have to feel threatened by something that is not threatening you.
>Unfortunately, there are many moronic cases here in America.
Yes.
>>55779029
The classic French Battle Flag.
Enjoy your sharia, faggot.
>>55784044
>>55784145
Ok.
>By the way, Brazil is not violent to the point of you being robbed by more than 4 times per year.
dats a lot
>>55784256
Do you want kucked cops to respond when terrorists attack us?
Remember Texas anon. Our cops lit those terrorists fucks up, while that poor French cop got executed in front of the whole world.
>>55782633
You fucking stupid? America is much larger and harder to patrol. You can pick between a liberal shithole where you're 20 times more likely to get knifed, or America where at least you'll have a quick death, assuming you actually live in a libtard nigger shanty town where the majority of murders take place.
>>55784475
enjoy your complete submission to Israel and enjoy your people being slaugthered because of foreign interests.
>>55782633
Feel free to move there. I hear they need help, building mosques.
Faggot.
>>55784102
okay...
>>55778707
"i'm more important than the attacks in france!"
>>55779346
"I'm oppressed by the media!"
>>55781416
"I'm opressed by you!"
>>55781570
"My opinion matters, even though it is totally without merit!"
>>55782555
"You don't own guns, so you can't tell me what to do!"
>>55783605
"This image is my facebook status!"
and yes, this Californian has been fighting for your sorry ass as regards to the 2nd amendment more than you ever will.
faggot
>>55784576
Awww. Did I hit a nerve, Froggy Faggot?
>>55784569
>>55784570
>>55784607
Calm your fat tits amerikuns
>>55779477
>manlets
>people
>>55784686
Build mosque, faggot.
>>55784643
yes.
>>55784686
It's okay Ahmad. I understand you're too busy sucking nigger cocks to say anything intelligent.
>>55784576
>enjoy your people being slaughtered
>>55784746
I still like USA even tho they fuck up 60% of the world population
>>55784792
Do you wanna talk about the chicago bombing ?
>>55779029
You can find out if the person is mentally ill, stupid, impulsive, or Muslim.
>>55784847
You mean the one where 6 people died? What about it? Don't think that really has anything to do with your hundreds of people killed or wounded.
>>55784857
Yes, and every single american citizen should be considered mentally ill
>>55784809
Awwww.
FrogFag needs a hand again?
>>55784929
Boston, sorry.
>>55784502
>dats a lot
I live in São Paulo state, I have been assaulted only 2 times in my life (I'm so fucking poorfag, they got nothing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bD6LfnOd6U). But I'm not a very "going out" person.
>>55784961
y not ? we're allies arent we ?
>>55785017
Yes, I know what you were talking about. 6 people died, retard.
>>55785062
You are our worthless, retarded pets.
DO not get between us and the Mudslimes, faggot and you might survive.
>>55785042
>But I'm not a very "going out" person.
I lived in SP capital for a year and got robbed at least 3 times. Tb nao sou um cara rico
>>55783955
This.
>>55778707
>that feel when the internet is helping the right wing to take back the moral high ground from the leftists
feels nice doesnt it? To think that the pathetic leftists thought that this was their playground. But more and more and with each day we are isolating them from this great tool like this.
>>55784417
>Tfw you're so mad your posts arnt even making sense anymore.
Keep thinking that you have some sort of nitpicky high ground on self defense, I'm sure that'll lead you far in life when your skull gets caved in by bomb, bullet, fist, or foot when you had no means to defend yourself.
>>55785102
Be polite. You are 200 years old, you were so retarded dat you got helped by us to write your holy constitution. You were the scum of the european race, you managed to kill 40 milions indians in order to establish yourself, and you had Bush (FATHER AND SON) for a President. Plus, you are naturaly obese. But we stiil like you for the creampie porn and the degenerate women you have.
>>55783757
Dying fighting is better than dying c.ucked.
The problem with modern society is that they're too pussied to even try and be heroes.
>>55785106
Its very common gringos acting in this kind of spirit, are you one of them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZI2i2btO_0
If yes, you deserve it. Pra ser bem honesto, senpaiÃlia.
>>55779261
It sounds like you're requesting examples of attempted mass shootings thwarted by concealed carriers. Here is a list. Now read it, copypaste it to a word doc, transfer it to a flash drive and shove it up your ass like a baguette. Maybe you will retain some Freedom.
http://blog.uritraining.com/?p=88
>>55785269
>Keep thinking that you have some sort of nitpicky high ground on self defense
Yep, I do martial arts
>I'm sure that'll lead you far in life
Fortunately I don't live in a country where you get killed going to the movies.
>when you had no means to defend yourself.
We'll see, I'll tell you when I'm dead
>>55785502
sou frances mais achei engraçado aquele alemao morar na favela por anos. Cheers amigo brazuca, gosto do teu pais mesmo se ele é um shithole
>>55783757
And this is worse than dying on your knees while crying "pleaseeeeee please don't kill me" like the rest of them... how?
also
>even if you manage to hit the gunner, he or his buddy would shoot at you back
So if 5-10 people did that the terrorists would be dead?
5-10 heroic deaths and all terrorists are dead, instead of 130 dead and terrorists on the loose?
That seem like an improvement to me.
>>55785530
thx, pol can be as good as Uni when you're searching for info
>>55785608
>I do martial arts
Oh man, havnt you been btfo enough in this thread already? Everybody back off we got a BADASS over here.
>getting killed at the movies
Really? As opposed to going to a concert? Or a restaurant? Or any plethora of other things?
>>55784417
>Nor do you have to feel threatened by something that is not threatening you.
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Assault_vs_Battery
When you are subject to Assault or Battery, you can respond with deadly force. That is what standing your ground is about. If it is a mere verbal confrontation you can not just shoot. You have to give the warning that you will shoot if they come at you. You obviously do not have to give a warning if they are actively hitting you (in other words, battery.)
In essence, Stand your Ground is self-defense and nothing else.
>>55779261
>(even the mentally disturbed, and psycotics)
You can't own a gun in murica if you're a felon or have failed a psych test at any point in your life.
America does have a lot of loose guns though, removing fire arms from law abiding citizens who want to own one won't stop crazy people from getting guns, no more than it stopped the dune coons who shot up paris from getting guns.
>>55785608
>Fortunately I don't live in a country where you get killed going to the movies.
because getting killed at a concert is somehow better
Meanwhile....
2015 NICS background checks:
June = 1.5 Million - New Record
July = 1.6 Million - New Record
Augest = 1.7 Million - New Record
September = 1.8 Million - New Record
October = 1.98 million - New Record
>>55779029
>Their religion has nothing to do with their dangerosity.
Except it, you know, does.
Enjoy being keked my innocent little frog.
So when the Muslims come I need to get a quaran book and have it ready to "show" them what a good muslim I am... I hope they are thick enough to hold a 9mm....
>>55778707
First, we should condemn them all.
Second, Muslims were forced to believe in that shit by their parents while gun culture is kinda different.
Third, I hope vigilantes rape and murder all the believers. It'll be funny to see the south rise to defeat the middle east.
>>55785666
>Cheers amigo brazuca, gosto do teu pais mesmo se ele é um shithole
Essa resposta tá em completa sintonia com os seus triplos, HUE. Gringos, em sua maioria, gostam daqui pelos motivos errados (hedonismos em geral). Como o brasileiro médio ainda é facilmente impressionável com opinião de estrangeiros (principalmente Europeus), puxar saco daqui só nos prejudica.
Same shit here in Switzerland.
We also have anti-gun groups that are actively trying to ban guns and even abolish the Swiss army.
So far they have managed to lobby for more gun control in the late 90s, the best part is that they are still trying to have more gun control and want to ban pump action shotguns.
Don't try to argue against anti-gunners, they are obsessed idiots that can't see reason and logic.
Any ways, here's how you get a gun in Switzerland.
>>55785903
Nice, How do you prove it ? How do you prove that you have been assaulted ? You cannot (unless you have a camera or some other shit), because the guy that was allegedly assaulting you is 6 feets under. Not only you are giving yourself the right to kill someone, but you also are giving yourself the right to determine what is an assault, what is a battery. What are the judges and lawyers for then ? Nicest way to spread justice, you americans have the best concept of freedom.
Reminder that gun industry is controlled by Jews as much as gun control notion. Amerikuks can't win.
>>55779029
>Literally nothing wrong with being muslim
>>55786246
cara, adorei as minas de SP. Mas sim, vcs tem muito q fazer pra reformar vosso pais
>>55786275
18-1-704.5. Use of deadly physical force against an intruder
(1) The general assembly hereby recognizes that the citizens of Colorado have a right to expect absolute safety within their own homes.
(2) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 18-1-704, any occupant of a dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another person when that other person has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, and when the occupant has a reasonable belief that such other person has committed a crime in the dwelling in addition to the uninvited entry, or is committing or intends to commit a crime against a person or property in addition to the uninvited entry, and when the occupant reasonably believes that such other person might use any physical force, no matter how slight, against any occupant.
(3) Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (2) of this section shall be immune from criminal prosecution for the use of such force.
(4) Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (2) of this section shall be immune from any civil liability for injuries or death resulting from the use of such force.
>>55786004
Happens once in a lifetime. Meanwhile in usa :
Theaters, schools, lbraries, malls, churches, Uni campus etc etc ...
>>55786033
ok now talk to me about the Christian crusades pls
>>55786445
>cara, adorei as minas de SP
Filha da puta, claro que você amou. Tu acha que elas não sonham com uma lua de mel em Paris? Hahaha.
>>55786522
Actually, unless your a black gang member, the chance of getting killed is pretty low.
>>55786604
comi varias so pq era frances :D
>>55786667
wheres the sauce nigga, besides this marvelous unsauced cum stainded jpg you have ?
>>55786567
So we should treat them as though they're hundreds of years behind the rest of civilization, is what you're saying?
>>55786567
>Christian crusades
Beautiful, moral and totally justified (isolated exceptions). It is sad to see a French condemning the Crusades, explains the current state of the country.
>>55786770
yes. But then lets nuke them with modern weaponry
>>55786765
Only the Asians are better...
>>55786833
I'm not condemning anythin, I'm keeping the thread alive
>>55779346
What about smokers?
>>55786939
gotta love the pac islanders
>>55787020
>>55786678
Sou capaz de imaginar, você já pensa e age como o brasileiro jovem de classe média. Faz sexo recreacional com um bando de iludidas e no dia seguinte condena as Cruzadas. Hahaha.
>>55784641
Is it fun painting false images in your head?
>pulling baseless assumptions from your ass
>putting words in my mouth
>implying I ever mentioned oppression
>implying I mentioned france
>literally acting like your opinion has merit while saying mine doesn't
>implying I have jewbook
You came into my thread starting shit. I asked for you to post your guns because you because you said you owned guns, yet you were getting butthurt about me bashing anti-gun liberals. I'm not even sure what you're mad about. Whatever you are fucking whining about or think you know about me is wrong and sad. Are you projecting?
>and yes, this Californian has been fighting for your sorry ass as regards to the 2nd amendment more than you ever will.
You are assblasted about me posting images supporting the 2nd. How have you been fighting for my 2nd amendment right (which I always had and will continue to do so), when you are from California, where the 2nd is neutered? How is that? (this should be good)
>>55786522
>sandy hook- 26
>virginia tech-32
>auroura- 12
>oregon- 9
>Dylan roof- 9
Total: 88
I'll even give you columbine: 13
Total: 101
So massacre wise, it's still safer to be in the us. Good to know.
fairwell niggs, I'm moving to /gif
cheers
>>55783757
You are the hominid scared to peak the mountain.
The species is better off without your DNA.
>>55785608
>Yep, I do martial arts
Hahaha holy fuck
>>55779650
Considering anti-gun faggots in the US immediately blamed guns during the Paris and demanded more strict gun control, you may want to take a look at yourself.
>>55786328
Why would they want us armed?
>>55787338
I don't know what you two are arguing about but the gun owners in ca is fighting tooth and nail to take back all the lost ground through the only Avenue they have, which is judicially.
>10 day waiting periods
Struck down but immidietly appealed
>Puerta v San Diego
Stuck down forcing citizens to give 'just cause' for the ability to receive a concealed carry weapon permit beyond the reason of 'self defense'. Is being re heard en banc at the request of Los Angeles district attorney.
>Attempts to ban 80% lowers struck down
There are more cases but this is what they are doing. Forcing these cases up the chain will eventually ensure all Americans supreme court decision certified gun rights or keep the bullshit in the coasts by not giving up. If you don't support ca gun owners then one day it will be you wishing you had been able to do something earlier.
>>55782264
Because he dindu nuffi'. Trayvon was a gud boy, and if Obama had uh keed, he'd look liek him.
>>55786275
>Nice, How do you prove it ? How do you prove that you have been assaulted ? You cannot (unless you have a camera or some other shit), because the guy that was allegedly assaulting you is 6 feets under.
Eye witnesses help. If you are standing your ground in public then there will be witnesses. If you are in your front yard then you are in public and again, chances are there will be witnesses.
>Not only you are giving yourself the right to kill someone, but you also are giving yourself the right to determine what is an assault, what is a battery.
It isn't the right to kill someone, it is the right to kill those who threaten your safety. There is a clear definition of both assault and battery. Notably battery, you can easily prove battery afterwards. I'm sure you've seen people fight before. If you get punched in the nose then you will have evidence that you were punched in the nose.
As for assault you will typically rely on eye witnesses. If you are in public (like a gas station) and there are no eyewitnesses then you have the surveillance cameras. Stand your ground is not a get out of jail free card. If there is not completely clear evidence that you were acting in self-defense then chances are you will be arrested on the spot. Even if there is evidence that you did act in self-defense, you will probably still be arrested.
>What are the judges and lawyers for then?
Now that the charges have been pressed against you the Judges and Lawyers enter into the situation (and jurors.) This is where you will have the prosecutor trying to prove that you committed crime "X" (say, 2nd degree murder) and the defense will try to prove that you didn't. The defense will likely try to show that you were acting in self-defense, which is not a crime. You are innocent until proven guilty. Blah, blah, blah.
>>55786260
>Don't try to argue against anti-gunners, they are obsessed idiots that can't see reason and logic.
>>55788443
You also forgot they seem obsessed with penis size too.
>>55783757
Good lord, faggots like you make me sick. Let's apply your logic to other areas.
>I could have stopped my wife from being savagely raped but the rapist could have killed me, so I'll just sit on the couch while my wife begs me to help. I could help, but it's too dangerous.
>I could have stopped the molester from facefucking my 4 year old boy but the molester could have hurt me. I know my son is crying looking to me to help, but no, it's better I live.
>It's more important to watch someone getting the shit beaten out of then knowing that they are going to suffer immense bodily harm because I might anger the guys beating him. He's screaming for help, but it's just not my responsibility.
>Some guy wants to rape me, I better just do as he says or else he'll hurt me. After all, what would happen if I did do something? I'd have a headache, AIDS, and a sore ass...
>I just took money out of the ATM and some guy shoved me out of the way and snatched it, he might be dangerous and I don't want to get hurt. It doesn't matter my family will starve.
In other words
>The term coward means nothing to you, because you never stood up for anything, or anyone even if you had the power to. You would rather be a craven fool and allow evil men to do horrific things to everyone as long as you didn't have to be brave.
>Get that fucking flag off your damned ID, you are a fucking disgrace.
>>55788443
Nice meme xD
>>55788518
I didn't forget.
>>55788758
El oh el
>>55788660
I agree.
What am I doing ITT? IDK. I just know I am going to watch that Michelle Bachman shit again.
>>55782633
>3 times safer
>Approximately 1/3rd the number of black people per capita compared the US.
>Coincidence?
BTFO
>>55782633
This shitposter doesn't take into account population. When you check out crimes per 1,000 people the UK is 3x worse than the states.
>inb4 Population doesn't matter
>>55785402
>France
>Talks about being polite.
Now I know you're trolling, faggot.
>>55785402
Ok let me get this right. A cheese eating surrender monkey, who's country is known for being rude, and known more for their prostitutes than any other, wants to lecture... ANYONE over the quality of their leaders, manners, weight, and women?
Is this the god damned twilight zone?
Don't worry you froggie faggot, I'm sure we'll have to bail you out again soon.
>>55782264
The media did an excellent job of spinning the narrative. First, Trayvon was a 9 year old boy with only skittles and tea. Then, NBC fabricated a 911 call to make Zimmerman sound racist. The media also hid Zimmerman's injuries for weeks. It wasn't until the actual trial that we learned Trayvon ran off, made it to his home, and left his home to track down and attack Zimmerman.
Bonus, the media hid the fact that the tea was watermelon flavored until it was used as evidence in the trial.
>>55789961
WHY THE FUCK AM I STILL HERE
>>55790870
Personally I like how they continued day by day to make Zimmerman whiter.
>>55778707
Thinking logic and equal protection under the law for straight white conservative men will ever be a thing to liberals. I would point out that if they think ISIS is an evil US construct why are they supporting their tactics I.E. gun control? It won't work, but watching their feeble parrot brains struggle to do back flips will be entertaining.
>>55785402
>degenerate women
>is a criminal if he tests if he is keked
>>55790910
Because you enjoy getting kucked like the boipussy you are.
>>55778707
>mind blown
>>55778798
You are triggering the fuck out of me right now.
>>55778707
We should judge both on the actions of the few.
>>55778707
Not gun owners.
Try with southerners and the confederate flag.
>>55783955
this
tho i don't think guns would be allowed at a concert. not even in america, right?
