http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-paris-massacre-nobody-204712964.html
>parroting muh if everyone had guns nobody would have died argument that gunnuts likes to spout
>during this tragedy
Do you gunnuts honestly want to be associated with this idiot?
>>55774988
Yes
>>55774988
must have really sucked just standing there waiting to get shot for 30 minutes in that theater
>>55774988
absolutely
>>55775064
Why?!
Do you understand how retarded this argument is?
>>55774988
yep
>>55774988
Yes, I support everything he has ever said besides the israel cocksucking
>if everyone owns guns and we live in a fucking Mad Max or wildwest universe where murder goes up 100000% and people get killed from a simple argument everyday it would have saved all of these 130 people
Do you honestly have any clue how retarded this argument sounds?
>>55775117
It isn't retarded actually. What's retarded is to actually expect the police to protect you in this day and age. Cops are just tiresome enforcers of social engineering policies of cultural marxist dominated governments, they have neither the desire nor the ability to stop rampaging dindus.
>>55774988
>http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-paris-massacre-nobody-204712964.html
so you're telling me that you would rather be a defenseless victim than be armed in hoping of surviving that day
>>55775117
So you argue that if everyone citizen had a gun, the total number of deaths wouldn't have changed?
>>55775207
>>Murder goes up 10000% when everyone ones guns.
Project some more faggot. It's really entertaining.
Fuck yes.
Burn the heretics for the emperor.
>>55775117
Is your argument
>it's the current year
?
You don't have to support Trump to agree with this sentiment.
>>55775117
did you even read your own article?
hes basically just saying the obvious... that only the bad guys had guns
>>55774988
You mean with someone who states the obvious facts that the left fails to recognize?
Absolutely.
Gold star for you.
>>55775265
No I am saying that an isolated incident of tragedy shouldn't be used for you idiots to push for pro-gunnuttery.
>>55775117
>wait, in silent terror, to get killed
>as terrorists methodically execute you one by one
>take one or two of them down with you
Yeah, I'll choose Option B
>>55775392
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2-gunmen-killed-at-prophet-muhammad-art-contest-in-texas/
I'm fucking done here. Please get a plane ticket to a gun-free country.
I'll support whatever Trump shits out because I'm fucking retarded t.bh f.am.
Fuck Trump the fatty.
Obese piece of shit, China isn't part of the deal!
Fake conservative Fuck.
Earth to fat boy....
You losers keep supporting your meme candidate. ..
As for me, I'll be standing with Rand.
>>55775392
isolated, what about charlie hebdo these attacks are going to be more common
>>55775392
>how dare you say "I told you so"
>this has to be the 15th time where a bunch of unarmed innocent people in a place where guns were not allowed were methodically slaughtered with no hope of defending themselves
>by killers who must not have seen the signs and brought guns anyway
>and every time you gun nut lunatics point out that it was a bunch of unarmed innocents in a place where guns were not allowed being methodically slaughtered with no hope of defending themselves by killers who brought guns anyway
>if only the French had extra EXTRA gun control, that wouldn't even have happened because nobody would've had guns!!
>>55775513
>Keking for an anti-white edgelord candidate
>2016
ISHYGDDT
>>55775599
>This is a fact.
Proof? Sounds like you just pulled that out of your ass.
>No it wouldn't have mattered because all of the places that was attacked are gun free zones
Then how did the terrorists get guns in there? :^)
>>55775316
You mind reading the thread before you respond?
>>55775272
1. Trump is just taking advantage of the tragedy to get the gunnut votes. The same shit you always accuse us of doing.
2. If everyone has a fucking gun then murder will go up astronomically. This is a fact.
>>55775599
>If everyone has a fucking gun then murder will go up astronomically. This is a fact.
>American states with the strictest gun control policies have the highest gun murder rates
>deleting your post
>>55775599
>this is a fact
Holy shit, this thread is hilarious.
And you're a fucking ignorant moron if you think CCW holders don't carry their guns everywhere.
>>55775706
>>55775716
>more guns in the hand of criminals =/= more gun murders
lol okay sure thing, I am just posting common sense.
>>55774988
>parroting that if "guns were illegal" nobody would have died
>during a tragedy
Do liberals really want to take up this argument?
>>55774988
OP Name the last time 3 squads of terrorists were able to shoot 100+ people in an area in the United States....
>>55775599
Thats kind of why "gun nuts" don't want "gun free zones" , because the only people who recognize a "gun free zone" are people who obey the law.
People who do not obey the law are not gong to say "oh wait, I can't bring my GUN into this GUN FREE ZONE to murder 120+ unarmed innocent people, fuck... damn... I better plan around GUN FREE ZONES before I was Islamic Jihad next time :( "
Do you realize how IN-FUCKING-SANE your reasoning is?
>>55775501
Looks like one of your Americans was killed in the Paris attack, was also female and not white.
>>55775599
go away Jeb.
>>55775800
>criminals obey the law
>>55774988
Yes
>murder is illegal
>people still murder
>guns illegal
>people still use guns
Oh I know, BAN THINKING, BAN MOVEMENT, BAN LIFE
>>55775232
>What's retarded is to actually expect the police to protect you in this day and age.
This.
Police don't prevent crime, and they don't protect. They punish after crimes have been committed.
Someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night and rapes your wife. The sole function of the police is to try and catch the guy who did it. They can't stop it from happening. You could kill someone right now, and all the police will do is arrest you tomorrow.
i just dont understand why you want to be helpless and defenseless, evil will always exist
>>55775832
Wasn't she also an illegal immigrant?
>>55775813
>129/7 = 18
>Adam Lanza easily killed 27 people in gunlovin murka where everyone owns a gun
How does it feel to get completely destroyed in your argument.
>>55774988
Heh, #feelthebern amirite friend?
If guns are the answer then why do Americans get killed every week in mass shootings?
>>55775933
>killed unarmed kids in a gun free zone
Not surprised.
>>55775933
gun free zone
>>55775971
Don't matter to me who gets the nom, I would vote for Hillary or Sanders over Trump.
>>55774988
Trump is right. France, despite having a constitutionally protected right to bear arms, has some of the strictest firearms laws in Europe. The laws did not stop the attacks as the terrorist shitbags got the things anyway.
Concealed carry would not have stopped the attack. The venues were the sorts where a person would be unlikely of disallowed from carrying.
However, the point is that the laws are absolutely worthless and the only thing that they accomplish is making sport shooting unnecessarily difficult to get into.
They may as soon loosen firearms restrictions because the theory of harm reduction has been disproven.
>>55775933
gun free zone
you lose again.
>>55775933
it was a gun free zone you god damn tard. way to make our argument for us without realizing it
>>55776012
>>55776016
>moving the goalpost
>>55776025
leave him there is no hope for this one
>>55774988
Trump's not wrong. If it happened in Texas, the terrorists would probably be shot dead once they got into the parking lot like the last time it happened.
>>55775933
>In a gun free zone.
Get your facts right kek LOL.
>>55776025
Exactly, because you're a paid shill who's here to shitpost about Trump. Nobody is replying to you because they think they can convince or convert you, it's just fun as hell to absolutely BTFO your arguments.
You're going to wish you had a gun soon kekold
>implying liberals dont do the same exact thing when the shooting in in america
>>55776106
Yes by people who are authorized to have guns.
*inb4 I am a BLM supporter
>expecting everyone to go around armed all the time, never leaving your house without a gun
>going to parties with a gun
>going to peaceful meetings armed
>this is what passes for being a "civilized country" in America
>>55775392
Meanwhile liberals are using every school shooting to push their anti-gun agenda
Kill yourself
>>55774988
Am I the only person who remembered this?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/03/us/mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/
2 Islamic terrorists tried to shoot up a Muhammad cartoon contest but they were killed before they could do anything
>>55776004
Europe has regular mass murders with extraordinarily high kill numbers.
Americans have them more often, but Europe takes first place in casualties. Despite the ridiculously strict regulations.
>banned in /k/ for posting this
If you guys care so much about the Bill of Rights maybe you should care about more amendments instead of only the fucking 2nd.
>>55776371
/k/ isn't the politics board
>>55775714
>2. If everyone has a fucking gun then murder will go up astronomically. This is a fact.
Are you aware of the existence of Switzerland?
>>55776175
That's also because the American police are allowed to have guns on them.
Let's face it, if it weren't a gun-free zone, the attacks would have never happened there. It's not that people having concealed guns stop potential criminals, it's the POSSIBILITY of people having concealed guns. Nobody is going to take that risk when you can walk safely into a gun-free zone and shoot back without any opposition.
>>55776056
what? That's not even moving goalposts.
>>55776275
>be forcefully ejected from your home for refugee Clockmed
>get daughter raped by Clockhmed and the scandal buried by the media
>get massacred by terrorists at a party
>this is what passes for being a "civilized country" in Yurop
>>55775714
>>>55775316 (You)
>You mind reading the thread before you respond?
>1. Trump is just taking advantage of the tragedy to get the gunnut votes. The same shit you always accuse us of doing.
>2. If everyone has a fucking gun then murder will go up astronomically. This is a fact.
>3. No it wouldn't have mattered because all of the places that was attacked are gun free zones, meaning people wouldn't be able to legally have guns in those specific areas. So they wouldn't have their guns anyways.
>>55775824
Ohhh you faggot, trying to hide your fail threads?
Let me green text it for everyone instead...
>>55775316 (You)
>You mind reading the thread before you respond?
>1. Trump is just taking advantage of the tragedy to get the gunnut votes. The same shit you always accuse us of doing.
>2. If everyone has a fucking gun then murder will go up astronomically. This is a fact.
>3. No it wouldn't have mattered because all of the places that was attacked are gun free zones, meaning people wouldn't be able to legally have guns in those specific areas. So they wouldn't have their guns anyways.
Thats kind of why "gun nuts" don't want "gun free zones" , because the only people who recognize a "gun free zone" are people who obey the law.
People who do not obey the law are not gong to say "oh wait, I can't bring my GUN into this GUN FREE ZONE to murder 120+ unarmed innocent people, fuck... damn... I better plan around GUN FREE ZONES before I was Islamic Jihad next time :( "
Do you realize how IN-FUCKING-SANE your reasoning is?
Trump 2016
>>55776457
This argument is so idiotic, do you understand what a Jihadist means? Or the fact that most mass shooters ended up killing themselves anyways? These people aren't afraid to die.
>>55776540
>You
>>55774988
>calling Trump an idiot
>being less successful
Let the butthurt flow
>>55776545
Fair enough. Concealed guns won't outright prevent Jihadists from initiating a shooting but it would reduce the amount deaths unless every gun owner is a pussy with a micropenis like liberals love to say and run away pissing their pants.
The only people who are against firearms are too afraid to protect themselves. As other anons have stated in this thread, the police only punish after. Sitting around waiting for help for hours sounds like fucking hell compared to having armed men ready to respond.
>>55775207
The police literally sat outside as they offed people. If it was open carry, it wouldn't be as easy.
>>55776275
>I have no real reasoning as to why it's bad, let me say they're uncivilized
>>55776175
>Yes by people who are authorized to have guns.
Who apparently didn't do their jobs.
>>55776056
How is this fucking moving the goalpost?
>gunlovin murka where everyone owns a gun
this is wrong and they corrected you.
Why do leftists always make the gun argument about their feelings or incorporating their feelings in some way? Is it because they can't resort to logic?
It's like they don't understand the concept of "rights", and no amount of dead chilluns can change fundamental rights.
>>55776540
samefaggotry
>>55776816
you can't same fag on pol, there are ID's you faggot
In a society where EVERYONE, and I mean everyone have guns, the criminals would think twice of open up.
>>55774988
Their lack of freedom resulted in the deaths of 100+ people. How does that make you feel, savage?
>>55776175
It's really not that hard to get a concealed carry permit here in TX. I'd wager at least 1/5 of the adult population around here has one, and if they don't there is a pretty good chance they've got one around anyway.
Note I'm talking about guns in the general public space mind you, private is a different matter. Just about every family has one in private, and if they don't they live right next to someone who does.
The only real exception is the big inner-city environments, like Austin for instance, which is full of bike-riding riding hipsters armed with steaming lattes and dragon dildos.
>>55775094
If only there was some tool, a "weapon" if you will, that someone, anyone in the group could've legally been permitted to obtain beforehand, backed up by a Constitutional birth right that could never be infringed upon. Maybe, just maybe, they wouldn't have had to be waiting like sitting ducks to be executed by brainless goat fucking sand niggers.
One can dream.
>>55774988
He is right tho
>>55774988
You could have asked the same question in the comment section of that article and got the same answers.
>>55776545
I'm sorry, I couldnt ignore your stupidity any longer.
A Jihadist who doesn't kill anyone because the second he opens fire he's shot down by a citizen has failed his mission royally. His purpose is to kill and cause havoc. Now, given this information, would you assume he'd rather terrorize some place the law-abiding citizens have guns, or some place without? First way, he fails his mission, is a shame to his people and no 72 virgins, or second way, like taking candy from a baby and all that sweet virginal poon.
Guns or no guns, it is shameful for over 1000 people to not overpower less than 10 people with guns.
Cowards.
Modern men lack the fighting spirit, even if it's suicidal.
>>55776867
I see that you've lurked your required week and are posting dumb shit. Mayhaps reddit dot com is more your speed
>>55777087
There was one guy apparently. I just saw the headline but didn't look into it.
>>55777087
Go watch the bataclan video.
There isn't a lot anyone on that floor could've done
>>55774988
>parroting muh if everyone had guns nobody would have died argument that gunnuts likes to spout
>>during this tragedy
>Do you gunnuts honestly want to be associated with this idiot?
Now don't be a racist hate filled jerk. He probably has a lot of armed security guards himself so he's thinking my guys would have shot them down right away.
That's what he was saying. He won't make you shoot a gun if your deathly afraid of them so settle down and say you're sorry and promise you'll go to diversity classes.
>>55775501
Haha I was talking to my sisters bf at her birthday party last night.
>can you believe Newt Gingrich man?
>he said if there were 10-15 CCW holders there, they could have stopped it!
>hes so wrong and insane how insensitive!
>he knows I am a gun owner
>just trying to get a rise out of me
>tell him about the Texas mohammed bullshit
>"I-I never heard about that anon"
>yeah because they were stopped before they killed 100+ people
fucking c u c k
>>55777087
Limp wristed Frenchmen are born cowards. Esp the 21st century version.
I dare ANY of these snackbar faggots to try this in the US that isn't in the lib northeast or west. See how far they get. Of course they wont because they know better.
>>55777087
4 fully auto ak47s and Islam-belts. Rushing them would have been useless they would have just Alan ackbared
Despite High Gun Control Laws, Baltimore Reaches 300 Murders in 2015
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-300-reactions-context-20151114-story.html
Fuck you op. Come get my guns if you want them. I will give you all the bullets too but they are going to be coming FAST.....
>>55777108
fuck off gun-control kike
or answer the GOD DAMN QUESTION
Why would "gun free zones" make sense in France? Why do "gun free zones" make sense at all?
>>55777281
I haven't been to the site myself, but are the doors locked and the terrorists in a tower mowing down people or something?
>>55777384
Still might have saved lives.
According to reports in Beirut some guy walking with his daughter saw the second suicide bomber heading towards the crowd that had gathered around the remains of the first and tackled him so he set off his vest early.
The guy and his daughter bought it, but he probably saved a few hundred lives.
>>55777543
*few dozen
Don't want to be accused of unnecessary hyperbole.
>>55777384
4 full auto 47 mean 120 bullets, and belts mean they have to reload.
There were more people than bullets in there.
Not to mention not every bullets are going to be one-hit kill.
>>55775714
>Trump is just taking advantage of the tragedy to get votes
He's telling the logical, rational truth
>If everyone had a gun murder will go up astronomically
Why the fuck would you give everyone a gun? There were like, 6 terrorists. If a couple civilians had handguns the number killed would be very different.
>>55774988
>during this tragedy
Please don't try to pretend your side isn't the one to immediately politicize every tragedy before the bodies are even cold. You're just mad this happened in a country that already has every gun restriction possible, because it further disproves your fantasy narrative about gun control working.
Yes, I just bought tickets to his next South Carolina rally.
>>55777566
Ann was going hard last night, asking when we were going to cut off Muslim immigration entirely.
I retweeted her a couple of times with my /pol/ account.
Terrorist attack at Draw Muhammad art show in Garland Texas. They get about 10 feet before they get gunned down.
>they get gunned down
>they get gunned down
>they get gunned down
>>55777543
That guy should earn a goddamn Legion of Honor.
>>55777719
thats such some real nigga shit they got FUCKED UP
>>55777322
Terrorists never attach open carry rally or rural area with armed folks because unlike liberals, they are smart.
Shall not be infringed
>>55776043
>The venues were the sorts where a person would be unlikely of disallowed from carrying.
As has been discussed many times today, in America a good number of people carry to those types of places anyways, because the worst that can happen if someone finds out is you'll be asked to leave.
>>55776938
No reason to 'wager' anything when the information is publicly available.
>>55774988
Didn't this shit happen in Texas but the difference is the civvies had guns so the wanna be terrorists got filled full of lead before they could scream ALLAHU AKBAR?
>>55774988
>Do you gunnuts honestly want to be associated with this idiot?
honestly couldn't car less about guns. only voting for him because immigration is my main concern for the country.
>>55775207
>i'll take switzerland for 200
lmao OP got BTFO, nowhere to be found
>feelsgoodman
>>55774988
Absolutely. If Frenchfags weren't busy cowering in the corner and packed heat, the terrorists would have either been dead or too predisposed with an ongoing firefight to execute 150 people. It is likely that a lot of people would have still died, likely including those that tried to stop them, but any chance at reducing casualties is better than waiting in a line to get shot in the back of the head by Ahmed.
>>55775716
It's funny because everyone owns knives but people aren't constantly stabbing each other. It's almost like rational human beings could handle the responsibility of a gun.
>>55777954
Gungrabbers never win an argument here, they're consistently btfo
>>55776540
NO NO I DIDN'T SAY MEXICO, THEY HAVE GUN CONTROL AND THEY HAVE A SHIT TON OF MURDERS
I SAID ILL TAKE SWITZERLAND FOR 200
>>55775117
Two muzzies tried to start a massacre at the draw muhammed convention in Texas, one of the most anti gun control states. Both muslims were shot dead and nobody was killed.
>>55776004
Because we have more criminals than you do. Also, mass shooting deaths are statistically negligible.
>>55777954
Leftist gun grabbers don't have a single fact-based argument in their arsenal. In the age of instantly available data that completely exposes the lies they got by on in the 20th century all they do is either tell each other how bad guns are in echo chambers where they ban any dissent or drop "stupid gun nuts!" posts and then run.
>>55774988
you are a traitor.
>>55775094
when you need help, the police are just hours away!
>>55778109
Link to an article? Why am I just hearing about this?
>>55776964
I don't believe we have the technology for such a tool
>>55777904
>wanna be terrorists got filled full of lead before they could scream ALLAHU AKBAR?
But they did win the art contest...
>>55778229
>posting a facebook screenshot of one misinformed idiot being misinformed in the opposite direction by another idiot
Both of them are incorrect. Go away now, and delete that picture from your "haha this will show those gun nuts" folder.
>>55774988
lmao this shit wouldnt have happened if french people had enough sense to keep sand rats out of their country.
now it would be basically impossible to arm the french population without putting guns in the hands of the dirty habibs who are trying to kill them. so basically if france fucked itself twice in the ass and there wasnt much hope to begin with
>>55778229
A lot of the shit that guy just said is wrong tho f.am. Yeah ammo is kinda strict but it is nowhere near this stupid "police come into your homes and if you're missing a single bullet you go to jail" bullshit
Source: my brother lives in Switzerland.
>>55775094
>>55778220
They were fucking TWEETING the police begging them to come in and save them.
I don't know how the fuck gun control supporters can live with themselves.
>>55774988
I don't think nobody would've died, but much less would
>>55774988
Just because people died doesn't make it untrue, in fact this IS the time to talk about it before more people are slaughtered
>hates Jews
>but want every country to be like Israel where every idiot owns a gun and murders Palestinians senselessly because lol they're all terrorists
>>55774988
You stupid fucking libtard, every time there's been a shooting, Obongo spouts some more bullshit advertising gun control, and he gets praised for it.
Fucking double standards lsmfhautbcathfam (literally shaking my fucking head at you to be completely and totally honest f.a.m. (family))
>>55774988
There is a very small chance that only one or two armed citizens in that theatre could have escalated the situation, but if there were about ten people armed (a lot more likely) and willing to fight back, I bet a lot less people would have died. Anything is better than not being able to protect yourself. And if anyone on here seriously thinks that the target of the theatre wasn't planned, you're an idiot. They knew that there weren't going to be anyone armed in that theatre.
>>55777874
In the state as a whole sure, it's probably as low as 3.5%, officially.
There were 826 thousand active licenses last year according to the DPS report for 2014, the current total population being about 30 million now.
I was talking about where I am however, which is why I said "around here" as opposed to Texas in it's entirety. I'm not in the urban sprawl.
It's still quite a lot of people given the number of big cities we have, and of course we're just talking about the official number like I mentioned.
>>55778781
And he's finally back with yet another shitty argument
>implying that's what we want
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/05/us/texas-police-shooting-hero/
It's politically incorrect to be pro-gun. That means you support the death of children who died from school shootings.
>>55774988
Gun nuts argue when guns are illegal, only criminals will own guns. That appears to have been the case here although there's no point in rubbing salt in their wounds.
>>55778837
"everyone who doesnt agree with trump is obviously a libtard xDD"
you know you right wingers dont know youre literally the exact same as the left wing. both jump to extreme, calling the other a libtard or if youre a liberal; calling them racist/homophobic/whatever. same coin, different side.
>>55779124
of course. that's why I threw out all of my kitchen knives because I didn't want to support stabbing my wife and child
>>55779124
>>55778256
Shit, meant to reply to you.
>>55779224
The difference is you have to be mentally deficient to not want Trump to be President over anyone else running. He's not interested in taking our rights away and filling us with socialist garbage and the world's shitskins that are too shitty even for their shitskin-topia.
>>55774988
Yes
>>55777087
Hell, even if 1% of the people there were armed they probably would have been able to take down the attackers.
>>55779171
I think their fee fees have to be put aside for a second for the cold sting of reality to sober 'em up. I hate to say I told you so, but I fucking told you so.
ALRIGHT LISTEN UP
THIS IS THE ONLY CORRECT ANSWER
WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE:
- 0% CHANCE AT FIGHTING BACK
OR
- SOME % CHANCE AT FIGHTING BACK
Like seriously do you retards even think? How is not having a chance to fight back better than HAVING a chance, even if that chance is small?
WHEN THE FUCK DID 0 > NUMBER LARGER THAN 0?????
>>55779332
what happened to being centrist? i agree with some things he believes and disagree with other stuff. it seems everyone is either ultra leftist or ultra rightist
http://frankocean.tumblr.com/
>>55774988
I don't think that arming the residents of the Paris banlieus would be a very good idea.
>>55775933
Gun free zone in Connecticut
>>55774988
Well there sure as shit woulda been less death
>>55775933
It was a school, aka a gun free zone. Which is exactly the reason why gun free zones don't work.
>>55779035
Of course he would come back, his mind was shot when he saw the image I uploaded at >>55777012
I knew it would hit his nerve.
>>55779623
this t b h
I'm stuck in this weird limbo of wanting to vote for Bernie and also Trump
>>55778229
>>55774988
I like how with all of the things you could have called as bullshit from trump, you picked the one thing that he said that was actually true.
>>55779870
you don't want Bernie, if by some stretch of the imagination he actually imposes his plan of taxing the rich (which in itself is not a large source of income), the 1% will probably just leave the country to not pay the taxes then the US will most likely become like Greece, with no wealth.
Ok look at the crime rate in Australia sense they have banned guns... Alone sense then violent crime with guns have gona over 300%...
Second us in 4th for violent crimes with guns. Also FACT. Every major city in the us like LA, New York, chi town, New Orleans, and Detroit have the Highest violent crime rate.
FACT: if we took these rates away from national average we would be 4th from the lowest in the world.
ALSO FACT: these towns have the strictest gun laws in the country.
So someone plz tell me how taking guns away from ppl is helping??? Either your a fucking idiot thinking criminals are gona listen to laws or your wishing you could eat ppl like Hillary clintons farts out there ass cause there dumb ass views
>>55779573
We're talking about real people here senpai, not numbers.
You think I'm just a statistic?
smdh desu
>>55780114
Holy shit I laughed so hard at this because it actually sounds like something a fat bitchy feminist would say.
>>55774988
>do you gunnuts want to be associated with this idiot?
Yeah I think it's pretty fucking hilarious that while everyone is preaching "don't take this tragedy as an opportunity to preach an agenda", trump just gets on stage and uses the tragedy to preach an agenda.
Imagine if half of that audience were armed with hand guns. Be a victor or a victim?
>>55780099
It's nice you're anti-gun control but please learn to type correctly. We have enough Americans acting retardedly.
>>55779870
Trump seems more like a middle ground than any of these candidates. The Republicans hate him, the Democrats hate him. He supports certain leftist ideas like universal healthcare on top of ideas popular with the right... He's anti establishment as fuck and is basically through his anti-illegal immigration plans he'll be screwing corporations out of being able to get away with hiring wage slaves and wants to bring jobs back here in order to curb unemployment and low earning the correct way (job creation instead of raising minimum wage like a puppet).
He's more moderate than people give him credit for despite the right leaning. Like I said, there's a reason both parties hate him and the people love him.
>>55774988
He's got a point.
The guys who took the hostages at the theater literally just went down the rows shooting people one by one for like a fucking half hour.
How exactly could that situation have *possibly* turned out worse if a fraction of the civilians in the theater had been armed?
>>55774988
>Op dosent even know how to do a simple search to see how many crimes, and terrorist acts are stopped because of gun owners.
Even school shootings have been stopped because a teacher owned a gun.
Nobody has broken into my house.
>Why
I own an automatic shotgun.
But they break into my neighbors all the time
>why
They are anti gun and pussy liberals.
>>55780057
I want to believe Sanders could fix a lot of things but I doubt they'd even let him do what he really wanted to do
With Trump I think he could get shit done too but also doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about half the time? I also don't quite trust him cause he's a rich businessman fuck who was born into money
but he's also a republican that hasn't let religion get in the way of his politics and I quite enjoy that
OP doesn't know about all the successful defensive gun uses every year.
OP doesn't know that more gun control correlates with more crime.
OP probably includes suicides in his "gun deaths" statistics.
OP has never heard of places like Switzerland or Mexico and doesn't understand how their existence BTFO's his entire argument.
>>55774988
Most of the Charlie Hebdo guys would be alive today if there were a few armed trained people in that office. They were living in a dream world while under direct threat. You can't deny this.
If France is at "war" the citizens need to defend themselves.
Even in Northern Ireland they're allowed to have guns for protection because of the paramilitary threat. Why not the rest of Europe?
>>55775513
He never said China was part of the deal, he said China could very easily sneak itself in the back door, which it literally fucking did days after he said it
>>55780648
See, the real fucking sad thing is that dozens of hostages were tweeting for police to save them. They were able to pull our their phones, get on Twitter, and type out SOS messages. That's practically unlimited time to pull out a concealed gun, take aim, and fire.
>>55774988
> I rather not have a gun and let them take me hostage and kill me afterwards.
>>55780254
>shooting everyone who disagrees
sounds like a libkek indeed
>>55780770
Friend, your post reminded me.
In high school after a school shooting, maybe it was Sandy Hook? I don't remember exactly.
I remember my teacher saying something along the line of, "I've never heard of a case where a gun has ever prevented people from dying."
I almost lost my shit.
>>55775207
Murder goes up when cops are forced out of the community. Look at Baltimore.
All that needs to be said about banning guns. If your to much of a pussy to not make yourself a victim that's on you
This is how anti-gun idiots think....
>gun in a concert
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-r-r-r-r-right
>>55781957
that picture makes the dumbest argument ever
"you actually think child molesters won't molest children if it's illegal?"
He was only using paris as an example, even brought up Chicago Illinois, one of the toughest places on gun control and what is it?
A fucking nigger warzone with some of the most shootings daily since forever.
Fuck these retards taking everything out of context.
TRUMP2016.
>>55774988
More than ever.. get out of our way ,faggot.
IF ONE LIFE LOST IS REASON ENOUGH TO TAKE AWAY EVERYONES FIRE ARM, THAN ONE LIFE SAVED IS ENOUGH REASON TO KEEP THEM.
PARIS POLICE DIDN'T STORM THAT CONCERT BECAUSE THEY WERE ARMED WITH ROCKS AND STICKS.
THEY STORMED THAT BUILDING BECAUSE THEY WERE ARMED WITH GUNS.
EAT SHIT.
>>55774988
>thinking the Trump could ever be stumped.
Can we just ask the real question then? Should civilians be allowed to carry in densely crowded events like concerts and sporting events?
Because you can't do that even in the US.
>>55776541
The people who edit these images are paid shills. There's no other explanation.
>>55782582
This.
Burgers thinking that the events in Paris wouldn't have happened in the US.. As if they would allow people with guns to enter concerts and sporting events with their guns lol
>>55782582
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
>>55775117
>>55776541
By the way, Ben does these cartoons intentionally for /pol/ because he wants to educate you and try to get you to understand the value of truth.
>>55782709
Those fucking sand niggers would have been gunned down in a god damn heart beat.
The death toll certainly wouldn't have been a god damn 100+.
Don't get emotional, France. We aren't blaming you or mocking you directly.
It's just fucking stupid to allow yourself to be entirely disarmed in the name of SAFETY.
It's the least safe fucking thing possible and totally contradicts the intended point.
>>55782819
I understand your point, but if you give the right to arms to the citizens then you also have to give the same right to the millions of niggers/muslims. No one wants more arms in the hands of niggers, just look what it has done to the US.
>>55782819
>Those fucking sand niggers would have been gunned down in a god damn heart beat.
So you're allowed to take guns in to heavy metal concerts and sporting events in the US?
>>55782819
>It's just fucking stupid to allow yourself to be entirely disarmed in the name of SAFETY.
Arms are in the hands of those who are responsible and have been trained to use them properly, aka the police.
>>55782896
Silly argument honestly. Criminals don't follow the law. If they want to use guns, they are certainly going to find a way to get them regardless if its illegal or not.
What don't people understand about this?
You're only keeping hands out of law abiding citizens.
Criminals will have guns, terrorists will have guns, everyone but the innocent has a weapon under your backwards ass laws.
Oh no no, it's illegal tho to bring them into a concert!!
It saved so many lives before.
Try to sum up all your responses into one post
france what are you doing.
>>55780021
>looked at those gunshop links
being an american is truly suffering you know what it's like to have some freedoms but only desire more.
>>55782896
Yep, since the French don't have the right to arm themselves that means criminals can't get any guns at all.
Oh wait.
>>55783047
>Criminals don't follow the law
No shit. But the issues is availability and risk, I don't want niggers to have easy access to guns. Simple.
In Europe if you're caught in possession of a gun you're looking at a lengthy prison sentence, thus the risk outweighs the reward of having one.
I wouldn't mind there being some kind of compromise though, as in white males with families over the age of 30 with no criminal record being able to carry registered guns.
>>55783008
You are required to go through training to get a concealed carry licence, some states have higher requirements to be a CCL holder than a police officer.
And armed citizens on average end conflicts faster, with less shots fired and less casualties than the police.
>>55783215
>HUUUR LOOK HOW SAFE WE ARE CUS WE GOTS GUNS LOOOL
>>55783323
Adjust that for black on black murders
It's simple...
If you want to make some place or event a gun-free zone. Be damn sure there are a lot of police there.
If there are no armed police, then there had better be armed citizens....
>>55783323
I wasn't saying we're safer, I'm saying that "stricter gun laws means people who don't follow the law won't have guns" is an awful argument.
Also homicide is usually carried out by poor people and minorities.
If anything needs banned it's poverty.
>>55783403
>blacks are not americans
Cmon senpai.
>>55774988
Trump looks like he's about to drop some sick beats
>>55783323
Good job dumb ass now find the one with just legally obtained weapons. And not illegal ones. And take out suicide rate. And armed officer response.
>>55783323
Also, note how our homicide rate skyrockets in the mid 60s, the years immediately after some of our most restrictive gun control bills were passed, and in the 90, where the rate starts to take a major dip is when many states started making concealed carry easier for citizens.
Gun rights save lives.
>>55782582
Yes unless there is well armed security defending the place.
>>55783280
Punishment does not prevent crime. Otherwise, no one would be murdered.
New York City is sort of a gun free zone...
The city has 35,000 police....
>>55783047
sure lets also arm the moderate islam what can go wrong with that . a moderate muslim is just 1 quran page away from radical muslim
>>55783716
>officer porkins rockin the hooknose
>>55783751
They are ALREADY ARMED did you already forget?
At least if you could have a firearm you could exercise your liberty and right to self-defense and give yourself a fighting chance.
You're just a sitting duck, defenseless.
There is literally no way around this.
>>55783826
Very true!!!
You don't want to be one of the no-gunz in Islam........
Why do people act like this is the most offensive thing ever? Five seconds after that shooting in Oregon people were already all over tv, news sites, and twitter demanding gun bans and new laws. But when a pro-gun person says something about a mass murder in a place with strict gun control days after it occurs, suddenly it's an outrage and they're exploiting a tragedy for politics. There's no consistency at all
>>55783439
The "race" problem can be solved by race-mixing.
>>55783710
>Punishment does not prevent crime. Otherwise, no one would be murdered.
Bullshit. If there was no punishment I would kill every nigger I saw.
>>parroting muh if everyone had guns nobody would have died argument that gunnuts likes to spout
If even one person had a gun they could possibly have saved a hundred lives. Hell, just the knowledge that some percentage of the crowd would be armed would have dissuaded an attack like this.
>>55782329
Yeah child molesters will still molest children
Criminals gonna crime
>>55784257
>Hell, just the knowledge that some percentage of the crowd would be armed would have dissuaded an attack like this.
Hahahaha. Yes, those muslim martyrs who went in with the intention of dying wouldn't have done it if they knew some of the crowd had guns.. Jesus christ man, you are retarded.
>>55778256
You hardly ever hear about massacres stopped by a citizen with a gun because there is technically no way to prove for sure just how bad the massacre would have been or if it would have even existed.
The Texas convention could have been a massive shooting resulting in the deaths of hundreds, or it could have been nothing. We will never know because a based Texan shot the mudshits dead before they could do anything. Self defense acts rarely make headlines.
>>55784257
even the french swat got blown the fuck out . so what did 1 untrained gun man could do?
>>55775117
see
>>55775094
and as another anon said, the victims were fucking TWEETING for police help.
>>55784685
I'd like to add that it was one fucking cop with a Glock who wasted two guys with AKs. Poor show on Muhammad and Muhammad's part
>>55783516
This, especially suicide. That makes up the bulk of it. At least 60%
>everyone is unarmed
>120 AT LEAST are killed
>many more in critical condition
>terrorists are all dead
>bombs have already all gone off
>people are already dead or dying
>GUYS DON'T WORRY THE GOVERNMENT IS HERE
>*SUPERHERO MUSIC*
>TROOPS DEPLOYED
>ANTI-TERROR AGENTS DEPLOYED
>WE HAVE SAVED THE DAY!
>>55774988
Yes. It's still true. Why are they going after people who aren't expected to defend themselves? Even the mainstream media are still calling them "soft targets". What the fuck? What's a hard target?
>>55775513
read >>55780991 and maybe grow a few inches along the way.
>>55778267
Not Brazilians, but the Frenchmen could. Or they could import some.
>>55785222
>everyone is armed
>more 120 AT LEAST are killed weekly
>many more in critical condition
>terrorist hijack planes
>if only the passengers were armed ;_:
>GUYS DON'T WORRY
>NO ONE WILL GET KILLED BY GUNS IF WE ALL HAVE GUNS
>>55774988
>Liquidation of the Warsaw ghetto
>Literally being slaughtered
Jews or not, do you really think GUNS or NO GUNS would help in the situation
>>55776335
Nope, happened right by where I live. Feels good to be Texan.
>>55782329
I wasn't aware that there were benefits to child molestation
>>55774988
I usually lean liberal in political matters, but Trump does have a point. Everyone packing guns could have very real repercussions, but in situations like Paris, someone with a concealed weapon could have taken out one or two suicide bombers, which would have saved lives.
Many moderates agree that guns aren't the real problem, it's that too many times trigger-happy/radical/mentally ill people are the ones who have access to them.
In this day and age, if you live somewhere with even a slight possibility of becoming dangerously unsafe, you'd be insane to not arm yourself.
>>55785297
I'd assume any place where the inhabitants carry weapons. Gun ranges, most of the mid-west, an armory, etc. You know, places where they're guarded by more than a "gun free zone" sign and lousy legislation.
>>55785592
>do you really think GUNS or NO GUNS would help in the situation
In general, the sooner a counter attack happens the better. If the bombs would have gone off right at first while they were all still together... Maybe gotten them outside... But it is a probability thing.
>>55775513
Here it is again. He's back
The EXACT same posting style and bad English. Rajeesh the Hillary shill.
>>55774988
Trump is awesome and supports our right to kick terrorist ass.
Bernie would probably apologize to the terrorists.
Hillary has a track record as SoS of being impotent and ineffective against terrorists.
Trump is clearly superior on this issue.
