Remember when Western society's biggest fear was an edgelord who sang rock songs? It shows how good we used to have it.
he provoked those columbine faggots to kill christian students. terror was real before 9/11. its wasn't all happy times
we're all stars now.
>>55766207
He did nothing to provoke anyone to do anything other than buy records and see concerts. Killers kill regardless of what music they listen to.
>>55766207
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lUdF2CbKIa8
also by that logic would you blame Doom since they were making and playing mods of it?
Yeah it's kinda absurd looking even 10, 20 years back and realizing the little things people were worried about.
Like, people thought Y2K would start a technological dark age.
>>55765905
Can't you see how that jerkoff was a brick in the road to the place we're at right now? He was a pioneer of androgyny and "gender-fluidism" before these assholes even had any vocabulary to describe it. Absolutely nobody struck greater blows for the mainstreaming of degeneracy than each generation's increasingly degenerate musicians.
Do you honestly not see the role that people like him had in bringing us things like gay marriage and "woman of the year" Bruce Jenner?
>Tipper Gore
>PMRC
>If you play it backwards, it says, "do it"
are you fucking 12?
There was a whole fucking nation before yo were born.
>>55767217
>people thought Y2K would start a technological dark age.
It didn't?
>>55766207
They didnt listen MM.
>>55767225
By your logic, GWAR is also degenerate because they were all pretending to be aliens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b74fgy9Ea5A
Him and Doom literally caused Columbine.
>>55766207
That was KMFDM, not Marilyn Manson.
The media fabricated the Manson connection because nobody'd ever heard of the bands that actually motivated the school shooters at Columbine.
or maybe if we'd cared less about that and more about the threat growing in the mountains of pakistan and afghanistan we'd have been better prepared to deal with the shitstorm which has followed the "good old days"
>>55765905
Everything before 9/11 seems like a joke.
>>55766406
>He did nothing to provoke anyone to do anything other than buy records and see concerts. Killers kill regardless of what music they listen to.
This. Helter Skelter was about a playground slide, yet some fruitcake listened to it and thought "TEH BEETLEZ WANT ME TO KILL PEOPLE AND START A RACE WAR !!!1!1!!"
Crazy people gonna crazy.
>>55767642
except no one knew anything about the middle east before 9/11
>>55767436
GWAR is completely degenerate, you fucking idiot. This thread is a perfect example of why the white race is doomed.
>>55767658
I don't know
Everything is still a joke
Remember the undercurrent of political correctness, undermining of traditions and values, degenerate music being pushed ever more often and the complete lack of anti-immigration politicians?
No?
Because you were three and should get the fuck out.
>>55767785
Or did they?
>>55767826
>GWAR is completely degenerate
>>55767826
MEAT SANDWICH
>>55765905
I remember going to Warehouse records and being told I couldn't buy Antichrist Superstar if I wasn't 18. I was 17 at the time so that makes me... fucking old.
The real takeaway from that was misplaced blame. The columbine shooting created goth-scare. Which is weird, 'cuz metal-heads and goths have never had anything to do with one another. But the point is that we did have our own terror happening, back then. And the Oklahoma city bombing was the scare before. We always had one of these--your isn't new
>>55768237
Here's some GWAR lyrics:
I was - I was - I was
Raped at birth
I was - I was - I was
Brutalized by beastly girth
I was raped at birth!
When I was a boy
My life was destroyed
I was raped at birth
I was not overjoyed
When I was a man
I hid in the can
I was raped at birth
Yes that was the plan
I went to my mom
She hit me with a pan
I was raped at birth!
Totally not degenerate though.
>>55765905
i always think and talk about this, its crazy how far weve come from the early to mid 00s conservatism thing
>>55766841
Sorry but I blame their shoes. Without those they couldn't have reached their school because who walks with just their socks? Try to think with your head for once.
>>55768054
lmao if you are both blaming political correctness and politically incorrect (at the time) music. Would you support banning degenerate music, movies and video games?
>>55768572
Meat. Sandwich.
Learn to take a fucking joke.
>>55768572
>Brutalized by beastly girth
lmao
>>55766207
Columbine "shooters" killed anyone.
>>55769145
I was never a goth fag but I always liked Manson. Still do.
>>55768090
the average jackass knew next to nothing outside maybe the Israel/Palestine conflict.
The rest of the middle east wasn't even an issue.
Pretty sure it was just the minority of christians getting on the news crying about it and turnimg it into a sensation story.
>>55767225
>Can't you see how that jerkoff was a brick in the road to the place we're at right now? He was a pioneer of androgyny and "gender-fluidism"
He wasn't. He was just a showman. He's ugly as fuck so he had to do something to make up for his natural ugliness.
The dude is actually pretty logical and reasonable. I've never heard him talk about tumblr-tier shit.
Not even a MM fan.
>>55769306
That's ok. Manson was never goth. Industrial rock split from goth around 1992. My Life WIth The Thrill Kill Kult was the last, goth/rock cross-over band.
>>55767225
>He was a pioneer of androgyny and "gender-fluidism"
No he wasnt. He was literally just an updated an barely edgier version of Bowie and Alice Cooper. Nothing he did wasnt done earlier. Specially androginy when every fucking pop singer was almost a drag queen and super gay on the 80s. I mean Dead or Alive, Boy George, George Michael, Prince, etc.
What are you? 25 years old?
>>55765905
This is why the Jews chose an ingenious route to subjugate the white race. I'm literally floored that people (even on THIS board) can't see the connection between the present degeneracy and it's successive legacy of role models. If the people of /pol are this fucking dense, then what hope is there for all the assholes who live for sports and social media?
The Jew calculated well that if he could cause one generation of white men to forget who they are, then he could rear the next six generations on his own putrid bile.
Huh? GWAR is degenerate??
Huh? There's something wrong with Marilyn Manson???
... And you assholes presume to spearhead some revival of white culture, and white ethnic interests? You don't even know WHO YOU ARE..
>>55767610
>KMFDM
>nobody ever heard of
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
KMFDM SUCKS!
>>55768572
Kek you should check out Last Caress by The Misfits if you're a fan of these lyrics...
I got something to say
I killed your baby today
And it doesn't matter much to me
As long as it's dead
Well I got something to say
I raped your mother today
And it doesn't matter much to me
As long as she spread
Sweet lovely death
I am waiting for your breath
Come sweet death, one last caress
>>55769650
Absolute fucking idiot. They're all progressions of the same cultural theme.
>>55769396
fucking this
he was just one example of the many shock rock singers/band
hell Elvis was shocking at the time, dancing around and shaking his hips like that, go watch old TV footage of him, generally only his upper body because his hips were evil and shocked murica
KISS wearing leather and makeup was shocking at the time
there's been people like David Bowie or Alice Cooper shocking everyone pretty much since music because a thing
its just that by the time Manson came around it took more than shaking your hips to shock people
>>55769864
>KMFDM SUCKS!
That's the traditional refrain at KMFDM concerts before they play the encore. You scream "KMFDM sucks!" for two minutes, and then they come play another song.
The tour after WWIII when Combichrist opened for them? Shit was cash.
>>55769821
Should degenerate music, films and video games be censored?
>>55770073
No fucking shit.
>>55766207
I wonder what band influenced Genghis Khan.
>>55770111
Oh. I didn't get your joke. Sorry.
>>55767225
Bowie wore dresses and glam shit. Blame that.
>>55767658
Everything?
>>55769176
funny story. my father did all of the repairs on the door frames at columbine. after the hundreds of bullet holes he fixed, his theory was that cops were just shooting around corners. He was contracted 2-3 months after the event and the library had armed gaurds for the whole two months while he did his work. He grew up and was good friends with a jew cop in that jurisdiction when it happened. when my dad asked his buddy about what he saw, he clammed up and stopped talking to my dad. fucked up a 30+ year friendship. Hell I even went to his kike wedding when i was a kid.
>>55770047
If he is a step in the middle of that progression you cant really call him a "pioneer". Fucking retard.
>>55770213
Would you say that, all in all, Bowie was just another brick in the wall?
>>55770074
Absolutely, because the majority of people are incapable of:
1) Thinking
2) Seeing any vale greater than their own short-term pleasure (e.g. culture, race, posterity, nation, etc)
>>55768572
What's wrong with that? Lol fucking pussy.
>>55770271
>funny story
Yeah real funny that a school got shot up and a bunch of innocent children lost their lives in an event that would forever change the world as we know it. Do you also think that it is funny that mothers sent their children off every single day hoping that some sick fuck like you wouldn't go shoot up a school because he is a fucking psycho and his parent's just leave guns laying around the house? Do YOU think that is funny too?
>>55769885
if i cut off your arms and i cut off your legs
would you still love me anyway
if you're bound and you're gagged draped and displayed
would you still love me anyway
>>55770287
musicalkek.jpg
>>55770175
kek
>>55770277
Wrong again, asshole. He was his generation's trailblazer. He broke new ground in the vein opened by those before him. Hence... Pioneer.
Fuck off back to your kek porn.
>>55770175
Huun Huur Tu, perhaps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtbsb3swbcU
I DON'T LIKE THE DRUGS
(but the drugs like me)
"Stripped, Raped And Strangled"
They think they know who I am
All they know is I love to kill
Face down, dead on the ground
Find me before another is found
I come alive in the darkness
Left murdered and nameless
Dead unburied and rotten
Half eaten by insects
She was so beautiful
I had to kill her
Tied her up
And taped her mouth shut
Couldn't scream
Raped violently
Rope tight, around her throat
Her body twitches
As she chokes
Strangulation caused her death
Just like all the others
Raped before and after death
Stripped, naked, tortured
They're all dead, they're all dead
They're all dead, by strangulation
I come alive in the darkness
Left murdered and nameless
Dead unburied and rotten
Half eaten by insects
It felt so good to kill
I took their lives away
7 dead, lying rotten
Unburied victims
their naked bodies putrefy
Strangulation caused her death
Just like all the others
Raped before and after death
Stripped, naked, tortured
They're all dead, they're all dead
They're all dead, by strangulation
I come alive in the darkness
Left murdered and nameless
Dead unburied and rotten
Half eaten by insects
They think they know who I am
All they know is I love to kill
Face down, dead on the ground
Find me before another is found
>>55770425
Ok so you are no better than people who want to censor media that disagrees with their worldview like tipper gore or jack thompson. The fact you see no inherent issue with censorship shows you just want to ban things you don't like :^)
You are missing point 1
>>55770571
Thats not what pioneer means. He might have been a catalyst. But certainly not a pioneer.
>>55770571
He really wasn't. Maybe you can pin that on post-Disintegration The Cure. But definitely not on Marilyn Manson. You might even be able to stretch it to the sin video of NIN. But Marilyn Manson was solidly masculine, always. He was never about gender-fluidity. It was gender co-opting.
>>55769864
>KMFDM SUCKS!
Is that like Primus sucks?
Goddamn kids and their listenin' boxes! Back in my day, we wrote sonnets and they'd better damn not be lewd or lascivious -- don't even TRY to mention a girl's calves, you disgusting cretin.
>>55765905
Yep I totally miss the 90s ese
Mechanical Animals it one of the best albums I've ever head mang
>>55768316
I hid that album under my bed like it was heroin...in fact I would have rather had my mom find drugs in my room than my music.
Oh violence, killing, murder and general horror in movies? Totally fine. Anti-religious themes, sex, and swearing? OH MY LAWD, MY BABY, MY BABY, HE'S POSSESSED
>>55767610
>>55769864
>>55770073
Saw them in Boston this summer. Chant was amazing as well.
>>55770849
Yes, same thing.
>>55770477
>Based dubs
>Based Misfits
>>55770999
Eh. WWIII was their last album that wasn't absolute ass. 90s KMFDM was rad. 2000 KMFDM was fun. 2010s KMFDM is starting to get kinda sad.
>>55770743
That's exactly who I am. That's also exactly who this county's founders were. Do you think that the framers of our constitution intended for the first amendment to enshrine pornography and menstrual-blood art?
There was ALWAYS a hard, legal distinction between free-speech and obscenity before the sexual (degenerate) revolution of the '60s.
But here again... Is a person who sees no connection between our corrupted conception of free speech, and our shattered culture.
>>55765905
Poor man's Trent Reznor desu
>>55767225
You're a million fucking percent right, my friend.
Got a bunch of delusional fanboi faggots nipping at your heels, I see. In denial about their own degeneracy. They've still got the blinders on.
Manson (after Charles Manson) promoted Satanism, drug use, homosexuality, self-mutilation, suicide, homicide, infanticide, and he denigrated Christ and Christianity at every opportunity. He even once said, "Hopefully I'll be remembered s the person who brought an end to Christianity. Just google "Marilyn Manson Christianity" and you can find a hundred other quotes just like that.
No, he's not degenerate at all, he's just like, expressing himself and like, you know, decrying modernism and stuff . . .
How many of his fans killed themselves, I wonder?
>"Oh, they would have anyway!"
Yeah, if they weren't snared by one demon, it would have been another one, right?
>>55770743
This is /pol/
You will progress up the ladder soon.
>>55771332
>mfw already a traditionalist
>>55770425
you need to grow the fuck up kid
>>55770463
yes, yes i do.
>>55771664
Watch out, internet--we've got a badass over here.
>>>/lgbt/
>>55770463
aww how cute, someone that was 4 years old when it happened chose to be a sanctimonious cunt.
Let me educate you boy.
I still live in denver, and grew up in the fallout from that day. I've met 4 people that were in that school that day, and everyone of them is over 30, and is a constant victim, and will always pull the victim card when they're called on their shit. I've also worked with a gf of one of the people killed in the aurora shooting, and she was a harpie meth head with a chip on her shoulder. Beware of your bleeding heart. You'll breed dozens that will only suckle the tite on tragedy for their whole lives
>>55771781
Sorry, but did you just disparage someone for being 4 years-old during an event you were 8 years-old during?
My daddy could totally beat yours up.
>>55771328
>he made fun of my invisible sky wizard!
jesus, just kill yourself if for no other reason than to bring the national IQ average up just a little.
>>55771328
This image depicts what if not a human being ensnared by mind control into sexual congress with a demon?
>>55771328
But they talk about him, at least.
>>55771278
>There was ALWAYS a hard, legal distinction between free-speech and obscenity before the sexual (degenerate) revolution of the '60s.
If we are getting into obscenity laws you should cite the relevant court cases instead of some hand waving bullshit. It's also ironic you are posting on a website that would be prohibited material pre Miller v California (1973).
What are your legal issues with the Miller test to define obscenity? Do you think Hustler v Falwell (1988) should have been 8-0 in the opposite direction? Arguing for censorship is intellectual barbarism.
>>55772011
Christians are as bad as muslims.
Prove me wrong. Fucking please.
>>55765905
Ugh, I'm so dispirited by this thread.. If YOU guys are the ones with the "red pills" and, literally, less than 10% of you see any problem with Marilyn Manson, it's really just a lost cause.
Just give up.
Create a Tumblr account.
They've won...
>>55765905
he's such a dweeb
>>55772193
Good goy.
>>55772437
Name one incident in the past 50 years where christians killed in the name of "christ"?
>>55771781
nope was 14, and i bet your dad has sum prime boi pussy just for me!
>>55771328
yeah he's pretty great tbqh
F A M
A
M
>>55772443
I'd like to be clear that I'm liberal as shit, and only come here to laugh at you "red-pilled" retards.
>>55772437
Name one Muslim country that you would rather live in than one Christian country, and then kiss my fucking ass and move there, you idiot monkey child.
>>55772443
1st amendment swings both ways. If he wants to make a career out of being an edge lord who makes shitty music I don't give a shit. Arguing that his music should be censored or not allowed is some tumblr-esque bullshit.
>>55772546
I'll take it you have no arguments against the legal rationale of those cases chaim :^)
>>55772524
>snape.jpg
When your music career is dead, everyone turns to acting and vice versa. Weird.
>>55771328
>proxying to agree with yourself
baka desu senpai
Now he's just a fat, musically irrelevant has-been who drowns his days in drugged out dissipation and whores.
>>55772698
>Name one Muslim country that you would rather live in than one Christian country
The UK over Uganda.
>>55772685
Well, you know the saying - "Laugh now, cry later."
>>55772847
>>55771984
>I hate God
>therefore
>am smart
>>55772641
>>55771954
fuck i can't reply worth a shit
>>55772847
No love for Joe Kony?
>>55772613
>in the past 50 years
LOL
O
L
NAME ONE INCIDENT IN THE PAST 30 MINUTES WHERE A MUSLIM COMMITTED AN ACT OF TERROR
YOU CAN'T
I WIN
>>55772685
You must be the guy who makes all the dumbshit comments with a Canadian flag.
>>55772753
No, I don't. I only have the commonsense conclusion that Western Liberal Democracy is a complete failure.
>>55773138
Prolly.
>>55772761
Couldn't possibly be two based Christians in this thread.
SALUTATIONS, FELLOW WATCHMAN!
>>55770637
>sygyt
>>55766207
>Defends political correctness
>/pol/
GTFO
>>55765905
All these people here attacking Manson because he spreads controversial message shows that on /pol/ there are hardcore republicans
>>55765905
>It shows how good we used to have it.
A whole 20 years ago!
It's amazing how quickly things implode, isn't it?
>>55772847
Now kiss my ass and move there.
Born in '71 here. As far as I know, society's biggest fear was always the fact that two major powers are pointing thousands of nuclear weapons at each other, and probably the rest of us as well.
That fell out of fashion to discuss by the time the '90's rolled around, so maybe you didn't notice the GIANT FUCKING SWORD OF DAMOCLES positioned directly above you.
>>55773294
Actually moving back to the US in about a month.
>>55766406
>Killers kill regardless of what music they listen to.
>implying
Xer's X regardless of Y
nice normie logic
>>55773176
Then you can blame the founding fathers for creating a flawed system instead of weaseling away when you don't have an argument
>>55771278
> That's exactly who I am. That's also exactly who this county's founders were.
So you agree with them yet disagree with them?
>>55768572
Don't forget Slaughterama, Salaminizer, or Fire on the Loins.
>>55773468
Yep, I'm with them on that part.
>>55770175
Yat Kha
Nothing much has changed where I live, waaay upstate NY (almost Canadian border). This is an impoverished area that's basically NY's Appalachia and it never changes. No problems due to economy, because there have never been jobs here, just crazy white trash. No muslims or blacks because the locals are racist as fuck. Things tied to the outside economy like food and gas naturally cost more, but otherwise it's like decades ago.
>>55766207
Eric listened to KMFDM and Rammstein, Dylan listened to NIN.
Source: their journals
>>55773931
I'd kill myself too, if those were favorite bands. That's a horrible life to have to wade through.
Project Pitchfork, on the other hand? Yeah buddy.
>>55771332
I skipped step three.
>>55773627
Yeah their entire foundation and framework for government was a "complete failure" in your words but banning obscene material was something they did that was correct.
You are no different from a modern leftist in your approach of what to do around material that you find distasteful.
>>55773279
>republikeks
Fix'd
Lmao he actually looks worse without all the makeup
>>55774937
No surprise, considering he's a hillbilly...
>>55774937
wow he looks very different from the Sons of Anarchy make up less version ....
those eyebrows kill the whole MM persona.
The 1990s were the Golden Decade.
Miss him yet?
