Why do east africans have white features?
cause they're caucasians with dark skin
>>55756896
they dont.
Ancient alien culture.
http://eurogenes.blogspot.fi/2015/10/ancient-ethiopian-genome-reveals-most.html
>>55757574
>ancient ETHIOPIAN
>MOST Africans
>>55756896
Because they are mixed with the semites
>>55756896
How are they "white" features? Because they don't look like the literal apes you want them to look like?
>>55756896
They don't eat fried chicken.
>>55758033
What? Stop being an idiot
>>55758176
How are they "white" features?
>>55756896
Caucasoid features not white you retard.
Mixed with Arabs.
they got invaded by the hittites
>>55759733
Because most white people have those features
There was massive immigration from Eurasia into East Africa only a few thousand years ago
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11919417/Africans-carry-huge-amount-of-European-DNA.html
>To their surprise, they found that compared with the earlier communities, up to one quarter of African DNA has come from interbreeding with Western Eurasians, such as people from Britain, Europe and the west of Asia
>“Genomes from this migration seeped right across the continent, way beyond East Africa, from the Yoruba on the western coast to the Mbuti in the heart of the Congo – who show as much as 7 per cenr and 6 per cent of their genomes respectively to be West Eurasian,” said Marcos Gallego Llorente, first author of the study, also from Cambridge’s Zoology Department.
I think it's crazy that even Congo people are part white.
>>55756896
This should help you understand genetics across the globe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_ethnic_group
Cushites are the purer e1b1b carriers while semites in africa (Ethiopians) tend to be more mixed since those languages crossed over into africa from the arabian peninsula about 3000 years ago
>>55760672
Anyone can have those features
>>55756896
there was a reflux migration back into africa an that is the result. also fuck you faggot.
>>55762954
Fuck me for what?
>>55762865
When something is typical of a certain ethnicity that's the metric we go by, faggot, learn how to use your own language. You wouldn't find a Congolese chimp with those features, nor most East Africans (this is just a meme perpetrated by niggers on /pol/).
>tfw no east African gf
>>55762865
It is attributed to certain admixtures.
>>55763003
I just wanted to sound tough online. ;_;
Have some cushite propaganda.
https://youtu.be/XF4qq-juoQ4?t=105
>>55763099
You don't want one. They are arrogant and obnoxious
Hammites /thread
>>55763517
How do you know this?
>>55763056
It is not a meme
>>55756896
They don't
Nice cherrypicking though
The further you move towards the middle east in Africa though the more likely there will be people who are more mixed between arabic and African
>>55763648
>How do you know this?
I'm Ethiopian.
>>55756896
>white features
jej
>>55763788
Why are you in Australia? And if you don't like Ethiopian girls do you like black girls then?
>>55756896
Because features aren't exclusive to one race.
>>55756896
Because they have White admixture. Class dismissed.
>>55763881
>Why are you in Australia?
My dad pissed off the gov't ~18 years ago
>And if you don't like Ethiopian girls do you like black girls then?
I don't like girls at all :^)
Sudanese girls have the best bodies though desu
Just gonna leave this here
>>55756896
Most likely mixing with Arabs.
>>55764120
>gay
faggot
>>55756896
interbreeding with Arabs, you can clearly see they're right fucking next to each other
Rome.
>>55756896
the Lost Legion, dummy.
everyone knows this
>>55764196
Gr8 b8 m8
>>55764246
I'm not gay, I just like cocks and cuddles.
>>55764274
We almost crushed islam once :(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Elephant
>>55756896
Fucking looks like black freddie mercury
>>55764463
That is gay
>>55762754
looks more jewish than anything
I'm rather interested in the ancestry of gingers
>>55764543
No it isn't
>>55764463
>>55764644
niggerfaggot
>>55764756
*Sandnigger
>>55756896
Half nigger, half arab, most of them look like subhumans either way
Next question
>>55764823
I'm actually offended when people try and call Ethiopians arab. Arabs are kind of the Reason Axum waned, since they cut us off from Christian Europe.
>>55765004
>Half nigger, half arab,
so...Swedish then?
>>55765233
Post hand or face because i do not believe you
>>55765545
Faggot! Anyways you people should stop claiming to be arab if you hate it so much
>>55765711
Literally never met a single Ethiopian who called themselves arab.
compare ethiopian to other africans
>>55765233
>Axum
They used to have Light Sabers an shit.
>>55756896
Because the vikings have been everywhere before us.
Its not that hard.
>>55765862
Oh well
>>55765862
Ethiopans have greek and other white admixture
Somalians on the other hand are arab rape babies which is why they look so weird
>>55765963
>Somalians are ancient swedes
>>55766263
It's mostly semite 2bh, and maybe a little bit of greek,roman,portugese
Me and my gf are both full blooded Somalis.
How nigger/10 do we look?
>>55766977
why can't you people pronounce the letter "p"
>>55766977
Post hand please
>>55760702
Interesting, thanks for sharing
>>55756896
They were raped by jews
>>55766977
You look like admixtures.
>>55766977
carlton/10
>>55766977
Are Somali people black? I here they do not like being called black
>>55766977
Kill yourselves
>>55767207
Sorry, not going to make that much effort to prove that I'm real. You will have to take my word for it, or don't
>>55767416
Alfonso Ribeiro is a mixture of something.
>>55767633
It really isn't that much effort honestly.
>>55766977
Much closer to Indians than "niggers"
To me, being a nigger is much less about appearance and more about character.
>>55756896
No such thing a white features. The East Africans prove this. Just like Europeans like to pretend white skin is a european "white" thing.
White features is a myth.
>>55768032
> Ancient Ethiopian genome reveals extensive Eurasian admixture throughout the African continent.
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26449472
> Here, we present a 12.5x coverage ancient genome of an Ethiopian male ('Mota') who lived approximately 4,500 years ago. We use this genome to demonstrate that the Eurasian backflow into Africa came from a population closely related to Early Neolithic farmers, who had colonized Europe 4,000 years earlier. The extent of this backflow was much greater than previously reported, reaching all the way to Central, West and Southern Africa, affecting even populations such as Yoruba and Mbuti, previously thought to be relatively unadmixed, who harbor 6-7% Eurasian ancestry.
> Ancient west Eurasian ancestry in southern and eastern Africa.
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24550290
> we also find evidence for two admixture events in the history of Kenyan, Tanzanian, and Ethiopian populations, the earlier of which involved populations related to west Eurasians and which we date to ~2,700-3,300 y ago. We reconstruct the allele frequencies of the putative west Eurasian population in eastern Africa and show that this population is a good proxy for the west Eurasian ancestry in southern Africa. The most parsimonious explanation for these findings is that west Eurasian ancestry entered southern Africa indirectly through eastern Africa.
>>55766977
Warya tell your sharmuuto to cover up.
>>55767547
Somalis are black. It's just that some of us have an identity crisis. Also the Arabian cancer of tribalism has destroyed our country.
Because whites are actually from Ethiopia.
>>55768455
Two Somalis! What is your hair type? So many Africans in this thread
This thread was better with the Korra porn, tbqhwy.
cultural appropriation
>>55768120
Eurasian admixture, not white. There is no such thing as white people or white features. You racial retards are stupid. Earlier in thread I saw where someone said it's because "most white people have these features", no it's because we need this to be true so we promote only those with these features, and claim them as ours. Maybe it's because I live in America and we are all mutts, but "white people" don't have a monopoly on "white features" because none of it is based in any real science. "White" is a social construct, nothing more.
>>55768615
>Two Somalis!
Two too many
>>55768615
Balding but my hair is the super-soft curly cloud type shit. Got it from my mother, only one in the family.
>>55768796
What is your beef with Somalis? FIGHT!
>>55768863
>Balding
How sad
>>55760672
You mean white people have ethiopian features.
>>55768868
They are fucking annoying.
>>55768781
>racial retards
> Eurasian backflow into Africa came from a population closely related to Early Neolithic farmers, who had colonized Europe 4,000 years earlier.
>>55768955
I know what i meant
>>55768925
I know mate fuck. I might as well grow up my bear jihadi style to compensate. I'm on a permanent buzz-cut.
>>55768955
Considering that those features are both more prevalent in and developed in modern Europe, no, you fucking stupid nigger.
>>55756896
looks like a nigger to me
I wonder if he'd fuck me senseless
>>55769074
>>55768997
Fight
>>55769242
>>55764463
Ask him
>>55769263
He has a point. Our fobs are retards and their mothers are shameless. Our women in general are battshit and make sistas look sane. Somalis can be chill for the most part, here in Canada anyway.
>>55756896
first handsome nigga I've seen (no homo)
all them niggs here have Silverback cousins damn
>>55756896
Hmm, maybe they're white, but their skin turned black because they're on the sun so much.
>>55767547
I consider myself black, but generally no. A lot of Somalis, especially the older generation, look down on blacks and have a superior complex over them for racist/religious. My Dad trash talks about African Americans all the time.
It's fucking bullshit. Somalis generally suck up too Arabs, when the vast majority of Arabs despise us.
>>55764196
That Pakistani and Arab guy are handsome as fuck.
>>55769617
>Hey spic let me holla at yuh
>>55769708
It is funny how Somalis have a superiority complex! They are so proud of being Somali, but want to be anywhere else, but somali and looking at the state of their country you would think they would be the last to talk trash about anyone
>>55766977
Your girlfriend is actually kinda pretty.
>>55769754
>>55769893
Didn't even need to see the ID to know this was a samefag.
>>55769973
What?
>>55769708
How do you feel about Somaliland?
>>55769181
no they aren't, look at the irish, or the british for example... look like fucking mongos.
Some idiots ITT
if you paint bucket that east Africans skin white, which those features he has, he'd look white
If you paint bucket an actual nigger white, it'd look like a retard
>>55763864
That's a Finn
>>55767547
Of course.
>>55770491
3 somalis
>>55768120
How do you explain the E-M329 haplogroup found only in Ethiopia and East Africa and the ethio-somali component in their Autosomal DNA? Those two highly suggest otherwise.
Your first link shows that the Eurasian admixture is present in nearly all african people and your second link is more about the eurasian admixture and where it came from (East Africa), it then tells us about the eurasian adimixture in East Africa.
Showing that nearly all africans have Eurasian DNA and then showing that East and Southern Africans also have Eurasian DMA (which we already know) does not in anyway challenge the assertion that East Africans are black...which they are.
hamitic
>>55770538
Disgusting
>>55770382
I think this is why non niggers look down on people who racemix with them
PSA for everyone in the thread. East African is the wrong blanket term. When talking about afro-asiatics the regional term is called the Horn of Africa. We're talking about Horn Africans, East African is to general.
Old Europe used to call us hamites, but that term has been dropped.
>>55770538
I don't need to be Somali to know that East Africans are black.
>>55770609
Doesn't mean squat. They're black East Africans.
>>55770709
This African American girl has vitiligo and besides the blotches looks regular with white skin. Albinos are just ugly
>>55770820
There's a difference you stupid piece of excrement.
>>55771029
Difference my hairy ass.
East Africans = Black
EADF pls go
>>55770935
Not with that nose.
Mullatto maybe, yeah. Her whole face looks mullatto desu
Holy shit. All the somali and ethiopinigger shilling ITT
>>55770935
Lmao. That girl couldnt pass for white without thw blotches.
>>55770935
Creepy but nice.
>>55764196
>Use good looking and famous brit and Italian. >Use plebs for everyone else.
Equality
>>55769934
Thanks, I generally consider myself to be lucky to be with her. She's intelligent and studies in one of the top 10 universities in the world. I'm barely holding down a shitty retail job. But somehow she doesn't care about that and claims that she loves me regardless.
Also, added bonus she has a really high libido.
>>55770056
I'm going to be 100% honest, I'm very unfamiliar with Somalia or it's regions and cultures. But it seems like Somaliland seems to be the more safe, developed part of the country that is free from Al-Shabaab. Am I close?
>>55771445
I never said she could pass for white i said she looked fine with white skin
>>55771146
ADMIXED IS AN INEQUALITY OF BLACK
Black
>>55767287
Admixed
> pic related
>>55770382
Why don't you post Somali albinos?
baka desu senpai
>>55766977
>How nigger/10 do we look?
You look like the kind of guy to hold a ship for ransom.
>>55771588
pic related, some more Ethiopian black Africans.
Besides, address >>55770604
West Africans have Eurasian ancestry too, are they too are not black anymore? Their descendants (who are even more admixed) such as Jay-Z and Rick Ross are not black anymore? Blacks don't actually exist?
>>55756896
Why do whites have such East African features?
>>55771588
>ADMIXED IS AN INEQUALITY OF BLACK
AYYO! WATCHA SAYIN MICK BOY?!
>>55771472
The afghan and north egypt ones are handsome as well ( and the brit star is average the rest below average although the sikh is really covered with hair and turban so it's hard to tell.)
>>55771588
>ADMIXED IS AN INEQUALITY OF BLACK
REPEAT DAT!
>>55771485
It's all good. Puntland is another major stable region, but they're unionist. I just wanted to your opinion on their claims of secession.
Have you ever been to the motherland, and if not would you ever consider it?
>>55771977
>>55771908
JayZ?
>>55771691
>implying foregine fishing vessel don't deserve it
If I was a Somali fishermen I would board foreign fishing vessels on Somali waters and give every crew member summary executions so China and south korea can fuck off and stop raping our coastal waters.
>>55759733
Narrow nose, thin lips higher cheekbones and forehead. Lack of prognathicism. They don't even emit that musky smell that negros have
>>55772314
DAS RITE!
>>55772412
Lol, they also attack freighters.
>>55768455
Why do Somalis crime?
She looks white to me.
What if I told you that race is merely a social formation?
>>55766977
You look pretty Negroid, do you have any Sudanese or Congoloid ancestry?
Your gf looks more arabish, she is also kinda cute
>>55772598
Attacks on freighters is just pure hustlin. I remember when I was in Somalia a famous pirate clique rolled up into town with their Dubai imported land-rovers and were just going buckwild, everyone loved them. They're the Somali equivalent of gangsta rappers.
>>55772491
Most Horners simply have thin noses, alien shaped heads, lesser (still slight) maxillary prognathism but still retain full lips, dark skin and often even nappy hair like their West African cousins.
They don't all look like ''whites painted brown''.
>>55772823
Oh my lord
>>55756896
ignorant question and not related to politics
>>55772978
Interesting faces to say the least...
>>55773045
Most things on this board are not related to politics
>>55773085
Scum, you haven't responded to my image here
>>55762754
>>55772978
The young women can look beautiful though.
>>55773586
Amen.
>>55762754
>>55773337
I avoided the bait but oh well, I'll bite for the millionth time:
The finding of Rameses "red" hair also deserves further scrutiny. The analysis found evidence of dyeing to make the hair yellowish-red, but some elements were untouched by the dye. These elements of yellowish-red hair in Balout's study, were established on the basis of the presence of pheomelanin, a red-brown polymeric pigment in the skin and hair of humans. However, pheomelanin can also be found in persons with dark brown or even black hair as well, which gives it a reddish hue. Most natural melanins contain sulfur, which is typically associated with pheomelanin. In scientific tests of melanin, black hair contained as much as 5% sulfur, 3% lower than the 8.8% found in Irish red hair, but exceeding the 2.3% found in Scandinavian blond hair. (Jolles, et al. 1996) Thus the yellowish-red hair discovered on Rameses is well within the range of human variation for dark haired people, whatever the exact gene combination that led to the condition.
>>55772805
Both of my parents were born in Mogadishu. Sadly I can't trace my ancestry past that.
>>55773707
Imbecile, disputants deserve to be punished.
>>55772491
>>55772823
>They don't all look like ''whites painted brown''.
Some do though but they're rare.
>>55774413
>like ''whites painted brown
why people say this?
>>55774666
I don't know, it's like the blacks who say ''white people hair'' instead of ''straight hair''.
>>55774852
some somalis get really hype when white people say they look white dipped in chocolate
>>55775312
I'm not Somali yet I regularly lurk somalinet. Their discussions are entertaining as an outsider. Just google ''somalinet arab''.
This one made me lose my sides this morning:
http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=361202&sid=6ef8595d0fb20476f7ca85f1d87a4fed
Their (not most of course) pure racism towards West Africans or ''Bantu looking Africans'' is hilarious. Here's a thread on a Nigerian website that gets raided by a Somali calling their women gorillas and spamming pictures of Somali women:
http://www.nairaland.com/1971376/beautiful-handsome-bantu-people-photos/3
pic related
>>55775312
Holy shit you're right
how caucasian or non caucasian would you guess this to be. or where do you think is the racial origin of that person.
>>55776818
semite?
>>55776818
South American with an unusual nose, Gulf Arab or Yemeni.
>>55776871
i can give you the answer when more people guessed.
>>55776818
>>55776962
I choose Yemen.
>>55762754
>Ancient Egyptians were semites
WOAH... YOU DON'T SAY
>>55776871
>>55776962
>>55777146
ok, quite hard to guess i think.
he is 50% middle african tutsi (the ones with the arabic touch)
and 50% aryan germanic (i know its a pity to mix this)
>>55777553
Pretty much a younger, fatter and uglier version of Stromae (50% Tutsi 50% Germanic) then.
>>55777553
>>55777771
Meant to post pic related
is it you btw?
>>55777837
well... yes.
i will remember the ugly thing 0.0
thanks for the keks
>>55771146
I predicted Razio would come here
>>55777837
What are your top 5 favorite art-house films, Razio?
>>55777889
Why the self-hate?
>ugly
Well, you're not hideous but you have a dead expression and puffy cheeks which gives you a bad chin profile. Kinda like pic related but with your mouth closed and a sadder expression.
Hide the lower part of your face from this pic >>55776818 and you'll notice where the problem resides. Just lose weight, drink about 4 L of water daily and let facial hair grow. Your face will change dramatically for the better and a chiseled jaw might appear.
Oh and stop browsing /pol/, the negativity is poisonous for your mind.
>>55765911
>you will never mix your mutt genes into persian and indian goddesses and make human soup
alexander, could I have marched in your army? would you have loved me? would i have been loyal? would you reward me with the jewels of the near east?
>why live
>>55778206
I don't have a ''top 5 art house'' list. But I'd go with:
1. Il conformista (1970)
2. L'armée des ombres (1969)
3. Barry Lyndon (1975)
4. All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
5. A Matter of Life and Death (1946)
Goodnight
>>55778607
Do you like Robert Bresson's style?
>>55778928
Au Hasard Balthazar (1966) is a masterpiece and A Man Escaped (1956) is the second best prison escape film I've ever seen, #1 is Becker's Le Trou (1960) in my opinion. I'll watch Pickpocket (1959) soon and I've been meaning to watch Mouchette (1967) for months so I can't really judge his whole cinematography yet but he's clearly one of French cinema's best directors.
>>55778973
See >>55773707 and shoo!
>>55779343
I love Au Hasard Balthazar.
have you ever seen kiyoshi kurosawa's films btw?
>>55766977
Just for the record, authentic National Socialism considers you all to have a high degree of Aryan blood.
http://aryanism.net/culture/aryan-race/aryan-diffusion-part-5/
http://youtu.be/DStCr7ue960
Don't believe the Jewish lies! National Socialist Germany was not racist!
>>55778607
>art house
>Kubrick
fucking hell
>>55778973
Let's notice the differences:
1. Adrien doesn't have slight maxillary prognathism like Ramses
2. His nose is longer
3. His head shape is more ''caucasoid''
4. Unlike Ramses his hair isn't hennaed or gelled
5. He's more than 50 years younger than Ramses
6. His skin color is pale unlike Ramses who's rich in melanin (see my next reply for his father Seti I's mummy)
7. He's not an Ancient Egyptian nor a non-highly arab admixed modern egyptian like the fellahin.
Shit-tier comparison desu.
>>55778973
>>55779735
pic related, Ramses II's father Seti I
>>55773707
man these are some dunmer-ass looking people
>>55778973
>>55779735
>>55779823
which you're free to compare with the white mummy in pic related
PS: egyptian mummies were better preserved, just saying...
>>55771472
Dude are you retarded? They're all handsome.
Not everyone from each group has a recognizable famous person.
Get a grip.
>>55771600
wooow look that russians
>>55779902
What race are you man? I see you and that Irishmen always bickering back and forth in these threads.
>>55780041
Her is a troll doing what he does best! pissing of /pol/ (which is not hard)
>>55766977
You're handsome, she's cute.
Nicely done, bro.
mixing
>>55779712
Read
>>55778607
>I don't have a ''top 5 art house'' list
>>55779523
Yes but my favorite japanese director is Ozu and favorite japanese films are those of Kobayashi's The Human Condition trilogy.
>>55778126
He is literally in the right here though. East Africans are black no matter what spin you put on it. Does that mean they are exactly the same people as the west Africans? No. But they are certainly black no matter what features they may have.
>>55779523
>Kiyoshi
Don't you mean Akira?
>>55768781
Literal
>>55768781
Fucking
>>55773707
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1JA5qkixlSk
>>55766977
Congrats on the QT m8
>>55771472
They're all good looking men settle down lad
>>55780264
fealid is a chad
>>55756896
They have middle eastern features.
Who occupied East Africa? The Macedonians/Greeks, the Persians, the Caliphs.
Genocide is real and emphasis on GENE.
>>55780554
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/55387944/#55393150
>>55771950
theres no way that italian guy and paki and arab are below average or the brit guy average
>>55780867
>Who occupied East Africa? The Macedonians/Greeks, the Persians, the Caliphs.
The man in OP's pic is a northern sudanese Beja and I'm pretty sure that they have no such admixture.
>>55780314
>Don't you mean Akira?
Akira is awesome too. I love Ikiru.
But I meant Kiyoshi. Check out the films Tokyo Sonata and Cure.
>>55781039
BIX
>>55781096
I will.
>>55781155
NOOD
>>55781187
What is some of your favourite literature?
>>55781155
Any questions?
>>55781237
MUHFUGGA
>>55756896
ethiopian women tho
>>55781155
Why don't you people ever show her other depictions btw?
>>55781259
Yes, where is bottomn left pic from? The other pics literally don't mean shit.
>>55781155
or her husband?
>>55760702
it's crazy to think that white people bred with them before they were part white.
>>55781316
Lmao family. I just google 'Egyptian statue' and post the first results I find. I don't have to spend 10 hours a day digging through pics to create a compilation to support my delusions of a bix noodian Egypt.
>>55781262
pic related is his father Khufu (reigned from 2589 to 2566 BC - 4th Dynasty of the Old Kingdom)
Son of Sneferu.
Built the great pyramid of Giza.
>>55764196
South indian Tamil? That's completely misinformation. Tamil and dravidian language speakers couldn't be further from Indo-Europeans. What a deluded view of history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dravidian_peoples#/media/File:Nostratic_tree.svg
>>55781445
>bix noodian
I like this
'Bix nubian' might be more fitting though
>>55781445
>google 'Egyptian statue'
And?
Wanna play this game? I've got hundreds and hundreds of artifacts pal.
How about you go visit a museum instead of cherrypicking statues?
pic related for example are the oldest surviving sculptures of the oldest pharaohs.
Pictured: Narmer (first pharaoh), Khasekhemwy, Huni, Khufu, Djedefra and Djoser.
Why don't you post those?
>>55781458
Respond to these posts instead friendo:
>>55781350
>>55781445
>>55781458
Thats an Asian not a Black.
Already been confirmed alot of murals and such where defaced by Negro tomb-robbers.
>>55781580
As I said, I google image search for 'Egyptian statues' and just post the first things I find. I don't have to search for speciffic shit just to back up my worldview unlike you.
>>55781583
>muh Nofret
Every. Single. Time.
Find another sculpture to obsess over, seriously.
>The red of Rahotep's body and the yellow of Nofret's not only respect the observation that the skin of a man is darker than that of a woman, but also reflect the different status between the two genders.
A Companion to Ancient Egyptian Art (Melina K. Hartwig, 2014)
>The difference in Rahotep's brown skin tone and Nofret's, which is yellow ocher, is a convention of Egyptian painting and painted sculpture to distinguish male from female.
Art across time: Prehistory to the fourteenth century (Laurie Adams, 2002)
>The princess is given a creamy yellow colour conforming to the tradition that fair skin was a symbol of nobility and beauty in women.
The Egyptian Museum in Cairo (Abeer El-Shahawy, Farid S. Atiya - 2005)
>Rahotep is brown, his wife yellow ocher-the colors used by the Egyptians to distinguish male from female. Art: The Renaissance, the Baroque, the modern world
(H. N. Abrams - 1976)
>>55781580
I went to a museum in rome, the only thing that really surprised me was that a lot of the Egyptians depicted were pretty dark. Not as eye opening as you would have us imagine but I get where you're coming from I guess.
>>55781632
>defaced by Negro tomb-robbers
>Negro tomb-robbers
[citation needed]
>defaced
and it made wide noses, slight prognathism and full lips appear on countless statues? You're delusional.
>>55781654
What's your point? Show me a single West Asian man with the phenotype of the statue you just posted.
>>55781583
>The difference in the skin colour of the two figures follows the usual Egyptian practice in depicting males and females. Male figures are always ochre (sometimes almost red) while females are painted a pale yellow.
Egyptian Treasures from the Egyptian Museum in Cairo; Francesco Tiradritti (ed); Harry N Abrams, Inc
>Rahotep's skin is painted in a dull red color and Nofret's in creamy yellow
>Male figures were depicted with dull red skin, while females were shown with yellow skin.
Color Studies, 3rd Ed, by Edith Anderson Feisner and Ron Reed (2013)
>These two statues show very clearly the colour conventions used in Egyptian art when depicting males and females; Rahotep's body is coloured a dark red, while Nofret's is a pale yellow.
Inside the Egyptian Museum with Zahi Hawass (2010)
>>55781657
Where did you find the paintings in your posts?>>55781350
>>55756896
Because the out of Africa theory makes perfect sense if you look at and map out native populations across the world starting in Africa looping around in the Near East and ending in Europe. And of course Euros are mutts. A lot of Neanderthal in the blood compared to other populations.
So you could say these are the proto-Europeans.
With few exceptions, if you drop a dot anywhere in the world, the closer you get going towards the direction you're in, the more people look like you
>>55781800
>Michael Jackson
Was the first thing I thought of too.
>>55781665
Thing is, I never made the claim that every single Ancient Egypt was black but what I find pathetic is the posting of idealized and arab looking statues in a silly attempt to ''prove'' that no black egyptian ever existed.
How is posting this >>55781583 (see >>55781657 >>55781762) erasing the existence of these pharaohs >>55781580 and their phenotypes?
It's insanity. Early egyptologists were even making claims in the past that the charcoal dark, big lipped, prognathous and flat nosed Nubians (whose purest descendants are the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilotic_peoples such as the Dinka people) were Aryans.
INSANITY
>>55781800
I can post sculptures too you know? Wanna play this game?
I won't answer any silly question of yours until you tell me how is the posting of soft faced statues supposed to erase the existence of pic related.
>>55781800
I'm genuinely curious.
>>55781800
Let me know.
>>55782135
Well I never claimed those things myself. It's obvious that Egypt was a mixed area due to it's geographical location but from your messages I got the feeling that you were trying to prove that all Egyptians wuz da black kingz n shiet.
>>55780264
Iranian Nornoid could quite easily pass maybe as north Italian or South germaniac
>>55782342
>that ridiculous filename
>denying reality
We all know in terms of ethnic composition, modern Egypt, is much different from Ancient Egypt.
>Contemporary Egypt, is mostly an ethnic admixture between foreign invaders and conquerors and indigenous African people. Autosomally, as a whole, they tend to cluster more with Eurasian especially the Middle East. In the south, populations like Nubians probably cluster more with Africans (and thus Ancient Egyptians). All this is because of massive immigration from Europe and western Asian which started already in dynastic time, culminating in the Hyksos (Aamu) foreign rule during the second intermediate period, as well as during the late periods up to now (Assyrians, Arab conquest, British colonization, etc).
>‘'As a consequence the many invasions of ancient Egypt, the population has changed over the years. There were Hyksos (Heka Khasut) from Asia, who melted into the Delta Region around 1500 B.C.E., and then a series of invasions by the Assyrians, Persians and Greeks. With the arrival of large groups of Arabians in the seventh century C.E., the racial character of Egypt began to change''
>''The resultant mixtures of Africans, Arabs, Greeks and Persians were to be jointed with Turks, Russians, Albanians, British, and French to create a different population that there had been during the ancient times.''
>''One cannot say that today's Egypt is the same as the Egypt of antiquity anymore than one can say that today's North America is the same as it was 5000 years ago.''
- From The Oxford Encyclopedia of African Thought, Volume 1 (2010)
>>55756896
Other than the sheep's wool hair, he's actually a pretty handsome guy. I wonder if he behaves like a chimp.
>>55782135
It's obvious those people are neither niggers, nor roman white. They were probably browner than white, yet not like niggers, more like a darker mediteranian. Also those skulls don't look neither white, nor black, but rather alien. That prolonged back of the skulls is a typical ayy lmao grey.
>>55782342
>"Cosmopolitan northern Egypt is less likely to have a population representative of the core indigenous population of the most ancient times“
– Keita 2005. History in Africa, 2005, 32(1).221-246
>"Outside influence and admixture with extraregional groups primarily occurred in Lower Egypt—perhaps during the later dynastic, but especially in Ptolemaic and Roman times (also Irish, 2006).”
-Irish 2009. Dental_affinities_of_the_C-group_inhabitants.. Ec Hi Rev
>''With the passage of time, each wave of new immigrants has assimilated into the local mix of peoples , making modern Egypt a combination of Libyans, Nubians, Syrians, Persians, Macedonians, Romans, Arabs, Turks, Circassians, Greeks, Italians, and Armenians, along with the descendants of the people of ancient Egypt.''
- From A Brief History of Egypt by Jr. Goldschmidt Arthur (2007)
>The Late Period is often singled out as the time when mass immigration into Egypt altered the character of the country''
from A Companion to Ancient History Edited by Andrew Erskine (2009)
>''The Muslim conquerors did not attempt a mass conversion of Christianity to Islam, if only because that would have reduced the taxes non-Muslims were compelled to pay, but a number of other factors were at work. Arab men could marry Christian women and their children would become Muslim. Large-scale Arab immigration into Egypt began during the eighth century.''
from A History of Egypt: From Earliest Times to the Present by Jason Thompson (2009)
Pic related is a modern egyptian woman by the way. I literally saved that pic from instagram earlier today.
>>55771600
god damn it, looks like russians to me.
>>55782342
>>55782566
Does she look like ancient egyptian women to you?
Reminder:
www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf
www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2013-02-01.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNA-tested_mummies
>Ramesses III
>E1b1a aka E-V38
>Place of origin: East Africa
>>55782342
In another response to that idiotic filename, there's still black Egyptians today. Just go to Luxor, the countryside, look at the fellahin etc.
>Comprising 60% of the Egyptian population, the fellahin lead humble lives and continue to live in mud-brick houses like their ancient ancestors.[citation needed] Their percentage was much higher in the early 20th century, before the large influx of Egyptian fellahin into urban towns and cities. In 1927, anthropologist Winifred Blackman, author of The Fellahin of Upper Egypt, conducted ethnographic research on the life of Upper Egyptian farmers and concluded that there were observable continuities between the cultural and religious beliefs and practices of the fellahin and those of ancient Egyptians.
Who are the Fellahin? – Biot #312: December 24, 2005
Faraldi, Caryll (11–17 May 2000). "A genius for hobnobbing"
Related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUBvVTNRp4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk0UybQeHQ8
I'm not canadian by the way. I made that clear a million times.
>>55782655
>DNA tribes
What kind of shit website is that? I'd prefer to see websites that end in .gov or .edu before I'm convinced that Egypt was bix noodian.
>>55782315
There is no doubt that a significant portion of the Egyptian population was black, and yes some of them "was kingz an shiet" as Nubians, a culture of lower Egypt, ruled for a time.
Hey white people, hows it feel that your race is going to go extinct soon?
>>55782779
www.isogg.org/wiki/DNA_Tribes
>>55782801
>a culture of lower Egypt
...and here you prove how clueless you are on the subject.
Lower Egypt = Northern Egypt
Upper Egypt = Southern Egypt
Nubia = not in either regions
>>55782655
now those women are remarkably good looking...
>>55776871
Fucking retard.
>>55756896
They are half Germanic Aryan and half black African. They were some proud black NAZIs in the 3rd Reich.
>>55782974
They're all East African.
Ethiopians aren't mixed, they are what the ancestors of white people looked like before they settled in Europe
>>55756896
Africa is the most genetically diverse continent on the planet.
You hould be asking why white people have east african features
>>55782931
An obscure wiki doesn't ensure the validity of that website. I'm still looking at your other sources so hold on with posting more shit to me for a while.
>>55783171
>before they settled in Europe
The first Europeans looked like pic related and reached Europe about 35 000 years ago.
Looks like San People desu.
>>55782655
>>55782725
>>55783243
>not knowing about DNA tribes
>obscure
my sides
Also, the DNA of some modern Egyptians found a genetic ancestral heritage to East Africa:
>"The mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) diversity of 58 individuals from Upper Egypt, more than half (34 individuals) from Gurna, whose population has an ancient cultural history, were studied by sequencing the control-region and screening diagnostic RFLP markers. This sedentary population presented similarities to the Ethiopian population by the L1 and L2 macrohaplogroup frequency (20.6%), by the West Eurasian component (defined by haplogroups H to K and T to X) and particularly by a high frequency (17.6%) of haplogroup M1. We statistically and phylogenetically analysed and compared the Gurna population with other Egyptian, Near East and sub-Saharan Africa populations; AMOVA and Minimum Spanning Network analysis showed that the Gurna population was not isolated from neighbouring populations. Our results suggest that the Gurna population has conserved the trace of an ancestral genetic structure from an ancestral East African population, characterized by a high M1 haplogroup frequency. The current structure of the Egyptian population may be the result of further influence of neighbouring populations on this ancestral population.”
(Stevanovitch A, Gilles A, Bouzaid E, et al. (2004) Mitochondrial DNA sequence diversity in a sedentary population from Egypt.Ann Hum Genet. 68(Pt 1):23-39.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Punt#Ta_netjer
Coincidence my hairy ass.
pic related, modern egyptian fellahin
>>55771472
>Russel brand
>Good looking
>Russel brand
>Brit
0/10
>>55783471
A craniofacial study by C. Loring Brace et al. (1993) concluded that: "The Predynastic of Upper Egypt and the Late Dynastic of Lower Egypt are more closely related to each other than to any other population. As a whole, they show ties with the European Neolithic, North Africa, modern Europe, and, more remotely, India, but not at all with sub-Saharan Africa, eastern Asia, Oceania, or the New World. Adjacent people in the Nile valley show similarities in trivial traits in an unbroken series from the delta in the north southward through Nubia and all the way to Somalia at the equator. At the same time, the gradient in skin color and body proportions suggests long-term adaptive response to selective forces appropriate to the latitude where they occur. An assessment of "race" is as useless as it is impossible. Neither clines nor clusters alone suffice to deal with the biological nature of a widely distributed population. Both must be used." He also commented, "We conclude that the Egyptians have been in place since back in the Pleistocene and have been largely unaffected by either invasions or migrations. As others have noted, Egyptians are Egyptians, and they were so in the past as well. ("The races of man: an outline of anthropology and ethnography", by Joseph Deniker, pg 432) Joseph Deniker and other early anthropologists similarly noted that the overall cranial form of Ethiopic, Arab and Berber ethnic groups, all of whom speak Hamito-Semitic languages, are largely the same. ("Papers on inter-racial problems", by Gustav Spiller, pg 24)
>>55783471
A survey cited by Kemp (2005) of pooled ancient Egyptian crania spanning all time periods found that the historic Egyptian population clustered closest to modern Egyptians. Egyptians as whole, ancient and modern, also clustered more closely with Nubian, Ethiopic, Middle Eastern and European populations than with Negroid populations. In Kemp's unpooled dendrogram, the Pre-Dynastic Egyptians (El Bardi and Naqada) samples further clustered closest to certain ancient samples from the Nubia region as well as modern Ethiopic populations, whereas Late Kingdom and modern Egyptians leaned toward some Middle Eastern and modern European populations. Kemp also noted that Egypt conquered and settled Nubia beginning in the 1st Dynasty.
(Kemp, Barry (2005). "Who were the Ancient Egyptians". Ancient Egypt: Anatomy of a civilization. p. 56. ISBN 0-415-01281-3.)
>>55783811
>they show ties with the European Neolithic, North Africa, modern Europe
My sides. Pic related.
asiapacificuniverse.com/pkm/data7_files/data7.htm
The X-ray Atlas of the Royal Mummies show some to be linked physically to Nubian types, and some documented royal officials are clearly "Negroid' like Pepi-seneb, an eminent scribe c. 2745 BC. Some royal New Kingdom mummies also show melanin frequencies consistent with Negroid origin.
Harris and Wente note the prevalence of dental prognathism among Nubians. Often this is combined with malocclusion. Similar incidence can be found in other African peoples. For example, one study found that a sample taken from the Kenya showed 61.3% of Maasai had diastema; 84% of Kikuyu had overbite and 99% had overjet; and 24% of Kalenjin had anterior open bite. (J. Hassanali, GP Pokhariyal, "Anterior tooth relations in Kenyan Africans, Archives of Oral Biology 38 [Apr 1993] 337-42). Although these dental traits can often be acquired through habits like thumb-sucking, as noted by Harris and Wente, the high frequency in the royal mummies indicates a genetic origin as found in Africans.
>"In terms of head shape, the XVIV and XX dynasties look more like the early Nubian skulls from the mesolithic with low vaults and sloping, curved foreheads.The XVII and XVIII dynasty skulls are shaped more like modern Nubians with globular skulls and high vaults.”
(An X-ray atlas of the royal mummies. Edited by J.E. Harris and E.F. Wente. (The University of Chicago Press, Chicago, 1980.) Review: Michael R. Zimmerman, American Journal of Physical Anthropology, Volume 56, Issue 2 , (1981) Pages 207 - 208)
>>55783811
>>55783893
The ancient Badarians were quite representative of ancient Egyptians as a whole and showed clear links with tropical Africans to the south. They have been sometimes excluded in studies of the ancient Egyptian population, which shows continuity in its history, not mass influxes of foreigners until the late periods.
>As a result of their facial prognathism, the Badarian sample has been described as forming a morphological cluster with Nubian, Tigrean, and other southern (or "Negroid") groups (Morant, 1935, 1937; Mukherjee et al., 1955; Nutter, 1958, Strouhal, 1971; Angel, 1972; Keita, 1990). Cranial nonmetric trait studies have found this group to be similar to other Egyptians, including much later material (Berry and Berry, 1967, 1972), but also to be significantly different from LPD material (Berry et al., 1967). Similarly, the study of dental nonmetric traits has suggested that the Badarian population is at the centroid of Egyptian dental samples (Irish, 2006), thereby suggesting similarity and hence continuity across Egyptian time periods. From the central location of the Badarian samples, the current study finds the Badarian to be relatively morphologically close to the centroid of all the Egyptian samples. The Badarian have been shown to exhibit greatest morphological similarity with the temporally successive EPD (Table 5). Finally, the biological distinctiveness of the Badarian from other Egyptian samples has also been demonstrated.
(1/3)
>>55783811
>>55783893
>>55784169
(2/2)*
>These results suggest that the EDyn do form a distinct morphological pattern. Their overlap with other Egyptian samples suggests that although their morphology is distinctive, the pattern does overlap with the other time periods. These results therefore do not support the Petrie concept of a ''Dynastic race'' (Petrie, 1939; Derry, 1956). Instead, the results suggest that the Egyptian state was not the product of mass movement of populations into the Egyptian Nile region, but rather that it was the result of primarily indigenous development combined with prolonged small-scale migration, potentially from trade, military, or other contacts.
>This evidence suggests that the process of state formation itself may have been mainly an indigenous process, but that it may have occurred in association with in-migration to the Abydos region of the Nile Valley. This potential in-migration may have occurred particularly during the EDyn and OK. A possible explanation is that the Egyptian state formed through increasing control of trade and raw materials, or due to military actions, potentially associated with the use of the Nile Valley as a corridor for prolonged small scale movements through the desert environment.
(Sonia R. Zakrzewski. (2007). Population Continuity or Population Change: Formation of the Ancient Egyptian State. AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGY 132:501-509)
>>55783811
>>55783893
Get some better pasta which I haven't addressed already next time, pal.
It's 3:20 AM here, I'm falling asleep.
Goodnight.
>>55784444
I don't get your devotion in this shit fa,m. I look this shit up as I go along, it seems that you're the one with readily avalable pasta.
Modern studies on ancient Egyptian dentition clusters the Ancient Egyptians with Caucasoids (Europeans, Western Asians) who have small teeth, as opposed to Negroids (Western Sub-Saharan Africans) who have megadont/large teeth.
A 2006 bioarchaeological study on the dental morphology of ancient Egyptians by Prof. Joel Irish shows dental traits characteristic of current indigenous North Africans and to a lesser extent Middle Eastern and southern European populations, but not at all to Sub-Saharan populations. Among the samples included in the study is skeletal material from the Hawara tombs of Fayum, (from the Roman period) which clustered very closely with the Badarian series of the predynastic period. All the samples, particularly those of the Dynastic period, were significantly divergent from a neolithic West Saharan sample from Lower Nubia. Biological continuity was also found intact from the dynastic to the post-pharaonic periods. According to Irish:
"[The Egyptian] samples [of 996 mummies] exhibit morphologically simple, mass-reduced dentitions that are similar to those in populations from greater North Africa (Irish, 1993, 1998a–c, 2000) and, to a lesser extent, western Asia and Europe (Turner, 1985a; Turner and Markowitz, 1990; Roler, 1992; Lipschultz, 1996; Irish, 1998a). (Irish pp. 10-11)
(Irish, J.D. (1998). "Diachronic and synchronic dental trait affinities of late and post-pleistocene peoples from North Africa". Homo 49 (2): 138–155.)
(Hanihara, T; Ishida, H (2005). "Metric dental variation of major human populations". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 128 (2): 287–298. doi:10.1002/ajpa.20080.)
>>55784723
I've already adressed what you just posted.
>that sculpture of Hatshepsut
>that filename
Still playing dumb I see.
>>55782135
> what I find pathetic is the posting of idealized and arab looking statues in a silly attempt to ''prove'' that no black egyptian ever existed.
pic related, a Somali woman.
See
>>55782655
>>55783471
>>55784723
also looks a lot like a younger version of >>55773085 and pic related
>>55784723
pic related too (and literally any other average East African women)
>>55784723
take a close look at the nose length, cheeks and lip shape/size of both that statue and pic related
>>55784723
>>55785156
same here
>>55784723
I thought I made the similarities backed up by DNA evidence with East Africans clear already.
>>55785156
Cherry picking. Do you have any studies that actually evaluate their skin colour or are you just here to feed your confirmation bias?
>>55785372
>Cherry picking
Literally every non-Bantu Somali woman has those cheeks, mouth and nose. It's how you can instantly recognize them. Aren't there Somalis in Swedish big cities? How can you not know their facial features? They're as phenotypically distinct as the average Indian.
>evaluate their skin colour
?
They are brown (towards red) skinned and not charcoal dark like how the nubians were depicted.
See >>55782931 >>55782655
Besides, every single mummy is rich in melanin unlike the pale Tocharian mummies of pale skinned whites.
See >>55779823 >>55779902 >>55782135
Good night.
I'm closing my laptop after I click on ''Post''.
>>55785855
Sleep tight. Maybe you shouldn't stay up so late to argue on 4chan so that you can actually stay untill the conversation ends next time.
>>55786022
So who was on what side? Ad far as I could tell you were both arguing for black Egyptians.
>>55786153
How so? I was arguing that the modern Egyptians are the descendants of the ancient ones like my sources state.
>>55786274
Wow do you really think that no migration occurred in 6000 years? THat's pretty fucking naive, even for Swedish standards.
>>55769708
Is your dad uncle Ruckus?
>>55786366
No I didn't say that and that doesn't affect my point.
