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Can someone briefly explain why Palestine and isreal are butthurt
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Can someone briefly explain why Palestine and isreal are butthurt at eachother? Also who's side should I be on and why?
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>>55754328
Israel and Israel
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>>55754328
no one's side is right.

jews offer "ceasefires"
shitskins break ceasefires, use civilians as cover
jews kill civilians
shitskins retaliate
repeat ad nauseum

its an endless cycle.
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You should be on any side that is not the palestinians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Q8K5TmivM
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Israelis believe God literally gave them the land thousands of years ago.

Palestinians are upset they get pushed off their land.

Theres a pretty complicated history and all kinds of political manipulation on both sides but thats that basic tl;dr
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>>55754328
After the Holocaust the UN created a state for the Jews,Israel.It was located in Palestine territory and they weren't very happy.Many wars happend over territory,mainly started by the jews.There was a war called "the war of six days" where Israel expandes 18 times of its territory.There was an international pressure to Israel to give the territory back to the Palestinians but they wouldn't negoiate.All attemps of retaking their landa were suppresed by the jews.

Stand with Palestinians,jews are unhonest people.
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>>55754818
Sorry for the bad grammar btw,typing on mobile
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>>55754328
Blame UK for everything. They tried to make everyone happy and in the end made everyone mad.

Palestine believes that Jews shouldn't be living on their land, creating a nation on their land. Jews believe that international law allows for a jewish state in that area. That's the short version.
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>>55754328
Both are sons of one father different mothers. Jews was the promise child. Palestine was not. That's why they are fight
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>>55754328
Israel, of course.

Throughout their history they've had no homeland and have been reviled and demonized everywhere they've went. Now that they finally have their homeland after the holocaust they finally have a place to call their own where they will experience no anti-semeticism. The Palestinians could go to a different nearby country very easily but they don't because they hate Jews.
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Imagine being a child with 4 siblings. One day you have grown up and decide to move out along with your siblings, you all move to the same city (Europe) but live on different streets (various European states). Years later, your elderly parents have become weak and fragile and you decide to move back to their place (Israel) against the parents' will. Your parents don't want to let you and your 4 siblings in, so you bust down the door, kill them and declare the property yours.
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>>55754328 (OP)

>Star by the jews
cala boca cara , foram os arabes que atacaram os judeus e começaram tudo em 1948
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If the Germans really felt bad about the Holocaust, they would have created Israel within their own borders.
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>>55755225
Good analogy, but all of these seem biased as fuck. Anyone have a real honest non biased version of what I asked?
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>>55755588
It's a biased event where people are vehemently pro their own side.

My post was all fact save the side I chose.
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>>55754328
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
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>>55755588

Arabs live in the region. Jews move in and push the Arabs out. They're now fighting over the land.

What's not to get over something so simple?
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>>55756191
Jews were there first and got pushed out during the diaspora. They came back to claim their holy land that Muslims were occupying.
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>>55756552
Entirely speculative.

The Palestinians are likely indigenous, and merely adopted Islam during the Islamic expansions.
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>>55756656
It's not speculative. It's historical fact.
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>>55754328
British let the jews come to Palestina, and palestinians become butthurt.

Get at any side you want, just certificate that the most number of semits dies
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>>55756768
The Palestinians are native to the region.
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>>55754328
Oil. Someone tries to use them to create conflict for profit.
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>>55754328
The Jews were kicked out of Israel a LONG time ago by Palestinians.
America and the Allies gae the Jews back the land but the Muslims had already established life there...

The Holy book is what pushed them to rebuild Israel...
Unfortunately... Okay look... Do you believe one should pay for the sins of your forefathers? If yes the Palestinians are wrong and Jews right about living there....

But that aside some of them believe in God and that keeps them attatched to the land because the Holy book says to....
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>>55756552
If we believe in what the jews says, this land wasn't theirs and they live in another place(in Middle East too) and just occupy the land after God gave it to them.
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>>55754544
>Based Norweigh
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>>55756827
There's no oil in Israel.

Or do you mean, the state is a proxy battlefield for those who would swoop in on oil rich countries (ahem - Iran)

Personally I'll side with nem jews. /pol/ blames their shitty lives on them, but honestly, fuck these bloodthirsty mudslime islamic shits. I'll take a western-style democracy any day over the violent, teeming hordes of islam.
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>>55755994
BASED BRAZIL
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>>55756822
>>55757268
I believe the Jews and what they say, and no amount of anti-semeticism will make me think otherwise.
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>>55754328
Jews because they're about 10000X better than sandniggers.
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The Biblical story is: Sarah couldn't have Abraham's child, so he impregnated her handmaiden Hagar. Sarah ended up pregnant, having a legitimate heir, and was insulted by Hagar feeling that she was her equal. They ended up banishing Hagar and her son Ishmael. They ended up creating the Kaaba and shitting up the Middle East henceforth.

Muslims are literally bastard Jews and are mad they don't get any inheritance.

What is now Israel used to be a desert and the Jews transformed it into a livable place. Muslims are bitter and want to claim tackbacksies because they're leeches on society.

Fuck Muslims.
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>>55755588
there are no unbiased political views ya doofus
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There is a European subpopulation derived from the Jewish diaspora nearly 2,000 years ago.

In the 19th century, a cult movement known as Zionism gained great traction, with the intent of re-creating the state from antiquity, and insisting that these distant, far-removed white people from central and eastern Europe were the real, true, honest-to-gosh same people as the Semitic folks from antiquity. This is the central claim and everything else follows from it.

In the aftermath of WW2 and the Holocaust, there was enough sympathy for the UN to create this state in Palestine (which had been part of the Jewish state from antiquity 1,800 years ago). There's some complex history between the 19th century and this, but that's the upshot.

Lots of Jews from Europe moved in to the bit the UN gave to them, and then

>>55754818

covers it from there.

tl;dr it's basically a European cult movement that gained enough traction after WW2 to get the state they were after - essentially the last of the great European colonies.
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>>55754328

with the army they have, israel could literally kill all palestinians. but they don't.

if the palestinians had the same army the israelis have, there would certainly kill all israelis.


see the difference?

imperfect as israel is, it's still the best moral choice.

TL:DR fuck the jews but fuck the palestinians more.
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