What do you think of this MGTOW bunch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JwlPJGvtSc
one word: betas
Literally the male counterpart to radical feminists.
>>55719715
I don't know. I've never looked into the community, but I'd assume a lot of them are people who have nearly had their lives ruined by false accusations like that video is full of . Never really looked into it before, just came across this video in a suggestion box
>>55719579
So let me get this straight. The choice is between paying to have a woman nag at you an not give you any sex because marital rape is a thing and not paying to have a woman nag at you and not give you any sex? Seems like an easy choice to me. Not paying is financially sound.
>>55720310
To be fair, find the right woman, get her to be right wing appropriate to your tastes, and you will have a damn near solid mate (both senses of the word) for life.
>>55719838
>Literally the male counterpart to radical feminists.
About time. Radical feminism steamrolled over the world. It's really time for a counter force.
bitter betas, essentially radical feminists but for men
>hurr i can't get laid that must mean society is against me
>>55719715
Because working your ass to the bone in order to prop up your little princess's lifestyle, then getting taken to the cleaners in divorce court anyway when her female hypergamy kicks in is ALPHA AS FUCK
Feminism is the establishment now. The only thing you're left with is to speak with your actions.
>wage gap myth
>no reproductive rights
>discriminatory divorce courts
The only way to win is not to play.
>>55720075
Nah, they are not betas, the movement is saying duck the girls, hang out with them, but don't act like a beta with them (pay for their food, let them move in with you, ect).
They are saying that women's pussy doesn't make them special, that is the least beta someone can be
>>55720544
Pass.
>>55720767
>>55719838
To be fair though, when is the last time you heard of a woman's life getting ruined over a rape allegation? Or a female police officer being accused of sexual harassment by a male?
I think there is something there about that bit. Just look at the rolling stone thing if you don't want to watch all of that video
>>55720796
>i am a strong independent man who dont need no woman
this is you
>>55721831
Actually no it's not, kid. I was smart enough to avoid gold diggers throughout my life, but have had plenty of friends get raked over the coals
>>55722036
when you get out of highschool you'll stop thinking that way
>>55722670
0/10 troll
>>55719579
mgtow is the final redpill
>hurrr lets remove ourselves from the gene pool for no reason hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr we are so smart
>>55720796
This.
Women have literally no other arguments than pussy and blaming.
Some chick is really pissed off to keep making these threads.
>>55723430
Try reading the thread
MGTOW is a haven for lonely virgins to justify why they're lonely virgins and for whiney bitches to moan because they couldn't keep their hoes under control.
Literally feminism for men.
>>55723528
I have. It's the exact same thing as the other hundred times it was posted. Oh wait, no one has said it is a kike plan for white elimination yet... but someone will. These threads are always the same.
>>55723693
If you read the thread why do you think I'm some dyke?
>>55723534
Proud MGTOW here, I've fucked Lexi Belle. I am willing to bet you have jerked your pathetic pecker to a few of my POV videos. Have a nice day
The only time i really interact with women is when I'm fucking them.
Other than that i do not want to be around them at all.
I don't see the big deal about it. Isn't it just men working on themselves and worrying about women later? If so, why do you guys hate it so much?
>>55719715
Or just smart.
Nigga 60% of marriages end in divorce.
>>55719579
>real men go their own way
No, real men don't give a shit what anyone says.
>>55724170
Exactly. Anyone who unironically says beta/alpha is just sad. Every man I met who says these words has a receding hairline and stutters anytime a stranger engages with them.
If they feel they need to "go their own way" to be real men that's fine, I'd likely not end up dating or even associating with someone so selfish.
>>55719579
What is MGTOW exactly ? Is it an actual movement like MRA or is it just an acronym for men that don't want to marry ?
>>55724411
a movement but instead of actively trying to fix things they're just saying fuck it and let shit passively happen as a result. OR at least that's their goal.
>>55723965
I want to habeeb. Any way you could give some sauce and proof?
>>55724600
so it's a movement that does nothing ? Isn't that nonsensical ?
>>55724091
Those guys just love hating things. They can't think for themselves so the only way to validate the choices they made is by shitting on others choices.
>>55724170
Isn't that the same thing, essentially?
>>55724411
MGTOW is a movement of men that are fed up with the over pedestalization of women in the media, universities, workplace, court system, etc. and are walking away from dealing with them on any level other than to pump and dump.
>>55724153
i'm never getting married, ever
>>55724851
The game is rigged. Best to just walk away...
>>55719715
Not true.
The whole system is rigged against men now.
It doesn't matter how alpha you are, if you get on a womans bad side she can fuck you over and take away years of wealth that you've worked your ass off for.
MGTOW was never supposed to be some cult on the internet, plenty of guys are MGTOWS even if they don't know it.
If you don't date because you think all women are sluts, you're MGTOW.
If you decide not to marry for that same reason, you're MGTOW.
If you dedicate your time to hobbies and self betterment instead of chasing skirts, you're MGTOW.
It's only this recent thing of a bunch of people banging on about it that have given it a bad name.
>>55723965
I don't know who that is because I don't jerk off to porno. Secondly, that hoe would have to pay to fuck me.
Lol this is how pathetic mgtow members are, bragging about how he screwed a girl who literally fucks for money. Have a great one, simp
>>55719579
MGTOW is just Political Lesbianism for men, without the homosexual sex.
>>55719579
I wish I found MGTOW _before_ I walked myself into a $1500/month child support bill to my ex who lied about birth control and then alienated me from my child.
>>55719579
>>55719715
CLEANERS
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>>55725109
You asserted MGTOW were angry virgins... you were wrong, son. And she paid me $500, thanks.
>>55724818
If that's the case why does half of /pol/ seems to hate them ? That seems pretty logical to me.
>>55725142
>MGTOW is just Political Lesbianism for men, without the homosexual sex.
It's funny because women are more than happy to share chad thundercock. It's actually how most of human history evolved
>>55725028
>MGTOW was never supposed to be some cult on the internet, plenty of guys are MGTOWS even if they don't know it.
>>55719579
Probably some left wing illusion to embolden thoughts of celibacy in young men.
Wouldn't put it past them.
>>55725701
They don't become monks and swear off women forever like /r9k/, they just refuse to marry them and put up with their bullshit
Or so they say
>>55725028
Who gives a shit if it has a bad name? It's not a fucking religion, cult or a movement with a goal.
Someone who is already MGTOW will not benefit from more MGTOW and if some men don't want to be MGTOW that's their prerogative.
>>55725428
Read the rest of the comment, "and for whiney bitches who couldn't keep their hoes under control". I'm pretty sure most MGTOW members fall into either category, regardless of whether you fucked Lexi belle or not
Rules and exceptions
>>55725481
I imagine some (NatSoc) hate them because of a value for nuclear families which can't exist with mgtow, or they're just obnoxious guys who think they're screwing feminism and women over and feel they need a pat on the back when most don't even care. This despite every other "journalist" and blogger article popping up trying to shame men into marriage.
The only realistic solution to the current trend of single motherhood that spawns millions of fatherless children who grow up voting liberal and demanding victim bux.
The only sane reaction for a man who understands how modern domestic and sexual violence / family and divorce law work.
>>55726125
They can't vote, fatherless children become felons.
>>55719579
great job not making anymore white babies
Look at the older generations.
Look at the amount of men FUCKED by women.
it will just get worse with our generation, why the fuck invest my time and money in women when i can wank and work?
mgtow is a thousand times cringier than calling yourself a "militant atheist"
>>55726391
Here's your guaranteed reply.
>>55720544
[citation needed]
>>55725428
why did she pay you
>>55726621
He gave her $1000 for an hour, but she gave him $500 back so he leaves earlier
>>55725142
>>55719838
>believes in gender equality
>Be me, 28, hueland
>Meet this qt blonde in a friend's party
>You know the story, she likes what I like, etc
>After some years of relationship, we decide to get married
>2 years after, she's getting mad because I'm pushing away her "having kids" blabing
>I would probably want children if I wasn't sterile
>She knew it from the beginning, said she didn't care and that she didn't want any childrens anyway
>Shit changed now, she wants to adopt one
>I said no, I'm not going to raise some fucks kid
>She gets mad at me, things go on
>After a few months I discover that she's fucking some dude on the side
>Confront her about it, she blames me for spying on her
>We eventually end up in court
>She takes half my shit today, I don't even have a kid, judge doesn't care because this country is a shithole
>I was poor already, my shit lawyer can't do anything, hers is a big shot paid by her family
>Now I'm really fucking poor, country is in crisis
>She living the dream, fucking dudes with my money and what she gets from her family
Marriage is a fucking trap. You fucks think it's the best shit there is because you have never been actually married. Just imagine losing any privacy you have, and having to share EVERYTHING with you partner.
I believed this "the right person" bullshit and I married again, and it ended in a similar way. Women don't want to marry you, they want to marry your money and fuck jamal on the side. If you don't believe me, just go around asking, the only people who defend this shit are the fucks with 40 years of unhappy marriage and 6 children.
>>55719579
> say they are living lives not seeking women's approval
> spend their whole lives biching about women online
>>55727410
>the only people who defend this shit are the fucks with 40 years of unhappy marriage and 6 children.
Buyer's remorse.
>>55727410
>Women don't want to marry you, they want to marry your money
Some real wisdom there.
I don't know guys hating on MGTOW seems really passe to me now. If it means not giving a fuck and doing your own thing I don't get what is the problem.
>>55727671
>whole lives
jej
>>55727671
Define bitching. I've watched MGTOW videos before and they usually talk about female nature, which does not constitute "bitching".
Some of them also make fun of articles women write, but again that's not bitching.
>>55723534
>lonely virgins
What do you think white women are going to do when men refuse to marry them? Sit home and be spinsters?
Nope.
They're just going to marry men who do value marriage and family (Jewish men).
> New mom Zooey Deschanel reveals she converted to Judaism for husband Jacob Pechenik
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3310795/Zooey-Deschanel-reveals-converted-Judaism-husband-Jason-Pechenik.html
>>55727410
>Women don't want to marry you, they want to marry your money
>>55725518
The man who doesn't know how to use a fucking comma in a sentence, is a MGTOW
>>55728018
>>55727410
>Women don't want to marry you, they want to marry your money
2/2
>>55728018
>They're just going to marry men who do value marriage and family (Jewish men).
Actually, they'll just marry the state. The state taxes the men and gets women the money and benefits they want.
>>55728018
Kunis says that a woman comes to teach him Russian for the past six months.
She's being cu-cked kek
>>55728228
Zooey Deschanel and Ivanka Trump probably wanted to marry a white man, but since they didn't want marriage, they went for Jewish men. Jewish people have traditional values and want family and children.
What, did you think women would give up and be spinsters?
>>55727897
there are still white knights in civilian clothing, people who think that ignoring women means we're just 'angry because women won't talk to us', when in some cases it is quite the opposite. Women can smell money, if you have enough of it they'll try to get in touch with you.
We're not saying ignore all women, that every single female on this planet is trying to bleed you dry, because there are those diamond in the rough type women who are ambitious, smart, willing and eager to cooperate. However, these women are few and far between, most of them use their looks to attract the best male they can, nothing else.
Date women, have plenty of them in your life. It is only then that you'll see for yourself their nature. Just don't get too close, it can literally cost you everything. And that in a nutshell is what we're asking:
Would you take a ~40% chance to lose everything you've worked to obtain, all that given to another person? For men, this is the question, because women most often stand to lose nothing should a divorce occur. I don't even like calling a flop with a 40% chance to win, no way I basically make the same call all in.
>>55720544
>right woman
>in the year of our Lord 2015
>>55728194
>what is a stylistic comma
>>55728018
keep doing MGTOW if you want
Good goys will stay single forever
Jewish boys are told to marry nice Jewish girls and make Jewish babies.
white qt3.14s are going convert to Judaism to marry nice Jewish men
end result = more Jews, less whites
>>55719579
Losers, sour grapes the social movement
>>55728901
nope
>>55729003
What do they care? It's not like they have descendants that will have to live in that world.
>>55727410
Serves you right monkey
>>55729247
I suppose you're right, why care about the self-destruction of the white race? Refugees welcome.
>>55722943
Literally this, only the /pol/ virgins who never had a relationship believe in the marriage jew, I've have been in a relationship with 8 girls in my life, all the same shit, no more that's all and I am going MGTOW full throttle
>>55719579
>MGTOW
Literally the male version of "Gee Jenny, there are no good man left, they are all cheaters!"
>>55729332
Watch out for spoidah, my roo friend
>>55729580
Except that women are wrong and men are right.
>>55729383
Good question you have there. Why should I care about the white race?
I have a kid, a house, a wife and I support mgtow. Because it's unfair for a woman to basically destroy your goals in life and everything you worked for in a divorce. I'll kill my judge, jury, and everyone responsible if it happens to me. Btw me and my wife's setup.
>>55729708
Another good one
>>55719579
It's totally cool that you refuse to treat spoiled bitches like princesses and don't want to get married to whores, but why do you need to form a huge lifestyle community about it?
It's like those militant childless people who can't stop whining about how there's no point in having children and how they're just emotional/financial parasites and everyone should join their movement. Their entire lives and identities revolve around their hatred/rejection of children and they end up more obnoxious than children.
MGTOW fags are more obnoxious than women.
>>55729752
This. If men had real rights in marriage, it would be worth it, but that's not how it works. The moment you get married, you are giving your partner a lot of power over you, and if you have children, she'll basically be in control of your life.
People barely understand how hard it is to go by with only half your income. Your goals and dreams are basically twice as hard to reach.
Men die more of suicide than car accidents.
>>55727815
>"Women don't want a marriage, they want a wedding"
The best wisdom I have received
>>55729455
It's always men who have had no experience with females in the real world that think marriage is a good idea.
>>55725028
>It doesn't matter how alpha you are, if you get on a womans bad side she can fuck you over
THIS. A lot of younger guys haven't yet realized just how impulsive, disloyal, and PETTY women are; it's their basic nature, and now the law bends over backwards to accomidate every frivolous whim they might have. The deck is stacked against men, and marriage just isn't worth the risk anymore.
I'll just sit back and smirk when these guys talking about good women and "alpha/beta" marry with good intentions, then get taken for every penny when their "good woman" decides her husband isn't providing enough excitement in her life anymore.
Always get a prenup.
Their is no harm, their is no shame, and if the girl doesn't want you to have it, she's going to divorce you.
>>55730699
the problem is that even a large majority of prenups are thrown out for various reasons, even they no longer fully protect a man and his assets. what does is just not getting married in the first place.
>>55730012
Exactly!!
>>55730870
>>55730870
You're correct, but if you're going to be retarded and get married. That is the first step. Also a visit to a lawyer each year to make sure everything is updated isn't that costly.
>>55719579
MGTOW = No pussy.
It's as simple as that guys.
>>55729209
Oh yes. Instead of a comma it could have been a ".." to symbolize a small pause.
>>55728748
>>55719715
You're not beta for refusing to deal with today's women, just rational.
>>55731132
That'd be true if getting sex required marriage, but we aren't living in the 1920s anymore.
>>55720544
>right woman
dude, do I need to remind you what the current year is?
>>55731132
>Drugs = no pussy
>It's as simple as that guys.
g8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8 m8
>>55731132
Anyone can get laid you stupid cunt, it's not about that.
>>55730699
>prenup
kek. If she says she felt forced to sign it the judge will ignore it.
>>55729003
>>55729383
>>55729709
>>55730110
It's butthurt feminists who keep posting MGTOW threads. Notice each time one is posted there are immediate a bunch of virgin shaming, 'be a real man', and 'you are just a loser' type responses. These are all feminist favorite lines of attack. It's obvious that someone is coordinating these threads, probably from tumblr or reddit.
>>55731254
Just kek my shit up senpai
Remember everything is bait.
ITT: Virgins against MGTOW because they think that being a women C U C K L O R D will net them a sweet snatch,
>>55731508
I rather suspect it's a cunthurt female stormfag who can't stand it that men don't want to marry her.
>>55731232
the right women exist. i know a woman today who works for the CDC through her degree in chemical engineering. she's been the top of her class since i knew her in grade school, and she's, far as i know, only slept with two people ever, the main one being her current husband of like a decade coming up next year
if not for her i'd say all women are just looking for the easy route in life, but most are. hell my best friend is dating one now. she can't cook, doesn't clean, doesn't work, and yet he's still paying for everything, including a trip to hawaii a couple months ago.
i want him to see the light but sometimes it takes getting burned before you realize that fire is hot
>>55731753
its the new white knight. instead of defending women, attack the male virginity. men usually are more prone to aggression, so most times it works. however, mgtows are smarter than that.
>>55721000
^
Yeah pretty much.
Here's the breakdown:
>Alphas
Not a slave to pussy.
Detached from women, but women seek him out.
Breaks hearts, doesn't give a fuck.
Women will obsess over his attention.
>MGTOW
Not a slave to pussy
Detached from women.
Probably had heart broken, and decides to opt out of a zero-sum game.
Women obsess over why he isn't obsessed with them.
>Beta
Slave to pussy.
Constantly seeks out women.
Will have his heart broken continuously before he realizes that he's just being played.
Obsesses over women.
>>55731753
Are you retarded? You're the one saying you can't fuck a bitch because you're not planning on marrying her or some shit.
>>55724403
You wouldn't have the choice.
>>55727410
>not fleeing the country the moment you lost the court case
Good goy
>be 27
>have a fuckload of working experience in many different sectors all my life
>I see the same history of infidelity, broken marriages and men getting rekt by alimony repeat itself every time
>seen some fucked up revenges from jaded ex-gf/wife too
>don't be alpha, but manage to fuck occasionally
>spend lots of money and time taking girls out, sometimes they don't put out, making me lose a whole afternoon that I could be doing something else
>the moment I cum I lose all interest in the girl, I want them to leave so I can do something else.
>decide to stop wasting time, money and energy taking girls out and instead just fuck whores
>its the same shit, even better because you can treat them as the fucktoy piece of meat they are
>don't have to put up with shit and I use all my free time to do whatever else I want
>every week I choose a different piece of meat to savagely fuck
The only bad part is that I must use a condom unless I want my dick to fall off, but I like this lifestyle.
Still, if I managed to find a girl I truly believed she wasn't a piece of shit bag of bullshit problems, I'd try to romance her, really.
But everywhere I see, living examples of how fucking shit is to get married.Even some lawyers friends I have agree that the law is made to fuck over men.
>>55720075
>people who have nearly had their lives ruined by false accusations like that video is full of
So, victims.
>>55719579
as with a lot of things, extremists on both sides are irritating.
a more moderate view is usually the better way to go. i dont mean moderate muslim bastardization of the word either.
>>55732791
I've got family in Chile, it always seemed like a more traditionalist place. Are you saying it's been infected with degeneracy too?
>>55720796
>working your ass to the bone in order to prop up your little princess's lifestyle
Beta.
MGTOW are those betas that won't or can't deal with a woman who is their equal socially or financially. So they just sit around and cry about it in their men's groups.
>>55733518
Nah, you're a cunt.
>>55733518
Obvious woman is obvious.
>>55733518
this weak ass bait. all we want out of women is for them to be our equals, socially, financially and emotionally. the problem is most of them feel that because they have a few wet holes it absolves them from needing to be decent people, something the mgtow movement is fighting against.
okay bait though, responded in earnest
(CAN'T WAKE UP)
