German 87-year-old 'Nazi grandma' jailed for denying the Holocaust.
A well-known 87-year-old German Neo-Nazi grandmother has been sentenced to 10 months in prison after being found guilty of denying the Holocaust.
Bild newspaper reported Friday that Ursula Haverbeck, dubbed the “Nazi grandma” in the German media, said she will appeal Thursday's Hamburg state court verdict.
Haverbeck was charged earlier this year after giving an interview outside the trial of former SS Sgt. Oskar Groening claiming Auschwitz wasn't a death camp.
When she challenged the presiding judge in Hamburg to prove it was, Bild reports that he said he wouldn't debate someone who "can't accept any facts."
“Neither do I have to prove to you the world is round," Magistrate Bjoern Joensson said.
In his ruling, Joensson said, according to Agence France-Presse, “It is deplorable that his woman, who is still so active given her age, uses her energy to spread such hair-raising nonsense.”
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/13/germany-87-year-old-nazi-grandma-jailed-for-denying-holocaust/
They found the threat.
Jailed for using words lmao
Serves her right for committing such an atrocious thought crime.
The Holocaust was the greatest tragedy in human history; honestly this woman deserved to be jailed for disrespecting the millions of G-d's chosen people that were slaughtered by the evil forces of Nazi Germany.
This only convinces me that they have something to hide.
Can't let anything go against the narrative, right?
>>55706618
Shit like this right here is why I deny the Holocaust. 17 first world countries passed laws that give criminal charges for not believing something that has ZERO evidence supporting it..In fact there is far FAR more evidence supporting their NOT being a holocaust, yet people go to jail for saying what I just did..fuck that shit..the holocaust is a fucking LIE!
What will save us from the madness that this world has become?
>>55707276
>something that has ZERO evidence supporting it
b-but neither do I have to prove to you the world is round!
remember the 6 gorillion
>>55706618
>“Neither do I have to prove to you the world is round," Magistrate Bjoern Joensson said.
But he somehow doesn't feel the need to throw someone who doesn't believe it in prison.
>>55707276
Thanks man would have said it but you know jewery
>someone who was alive during WWII, and whom lived in Germany, denying something that they could've actually witnessed, and could arguably critique, confirm, or deny
>someone who is old enough to potentially suffer from dementia, and might not be speaking from sound body and mind
How exactly was this arrest justifiable, considering the situational circumstances?
>>55706618
legal in my country desu senpai
>>55707542
Sure would be nice if you proved the million plus "victims" at Auschwitz. European census says MAYBE 300,000 jews were killed during WWII, at least there were about 300,000 fewer jews in Europe after WWII. There is no proof..I hope you were being sarcastic.
German jail is not that bad to be in, especially for an old lady who will have activities and good healthcare. Its not like american prison
>>55707760
No its not Pablo
>“Neither do I have to prove to you the world is round,"
Well, if you wanna make a law that prohibits claiming the earth is flat, you kind of do have to prove it.
Obviously the logical solution would be to not criminalize any sort of critical thinking, but that would offend someone's feelings.
>meanwhile in germany
räfüjis ar wälcöm hier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYopI7aQyV4#t=40s
>>55706618
To be fair, Nazi's had no business genociding Jews. I bet the Germans would prefer to have Jews over Muslims now.
>>55707918
yes it fucking is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faurisson_affair
Why is Europe so fucking pathetically afraid of free speech?
Jailing people for an opinion does nothing except make more people give that opinion serious consideration.
>>55708077
>Australia
I'm going to remember this one for later
>>55708033
But they didnt tho..MOST of the deaths of Jews came from disease and starvation, brought on mind you by the Allies..The Allies killed far more civilians than Germany ever did.
>>55708077
Maybe that is their goal?
>>55708000
That little shit in the beginning already wanted more than the free bag of gibsmedat. He wanted to... bag her. Am i right or what?
Guys...?
The simple fact that they send people to jail for this should raise some red flags , but nope the jews continue to build holohoax museums all around the world and sponsor "awareness"
fuck this gay earth
>>55708077
>except make more people give that opinion serious consideration
no mate Holocaust denial is viewed as 110% tinfoil nutjob here, no one takes it seriously
if you even question a little bit (like saying "I read through Yankel Wiernik's testimony and it's full of highly debatable material") you are immediately thought of as a neonazi
>facts
>>55708000
Does no one else see the fact that the "refuges" are mostly fighting age men? No one see that?
>>55708701
Where did the 2.5 million dead jews go? What happened? Are the still counted as the 600000000? IF so then isn't it 3.5 million? MUH 3.5 million! Doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
>>55707276
Lookie lookie fellas we got a historian over here
Man, you know shit
>>55708955
>Doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
The six million is symbolic. No matter the truth, it's always SIX MILLION AND NOT ONE LESS.
>>55707542
The proper response to this is that Scientific fact and Historical fact are not equitable. We can check and verify any time we want that the earth is round. Auschwitz on the other hand is less tangible to verify its purpose, what with the swimming pool and all.
>>55708077
>Why is Europe so fucking pathetically afraid of free speech?
Afraid that their monopoly on the truth will be questioned. If you want to prove something all you need is verifiable, undeniable facts. You do not need to jail people.
>go to jail for questioning a historical event
Fucking madness.
I thought it was 11 million now. Sad to see Germans imprisoned for criticizing non-Germans in their own ancestral homeland.
>>55706618
She did it on purpose so she could shank some muzzie bitches. Grandma is hard core.
>mfw people tell me there are countries where you go to jail for saying politically incorrect things
>>55708803
>Does no one else see the fact that the "refuges" are mostly fighting age men? No one see that?
Leftists literally have brainwashed themselves to only see babies in them.
>>55706618
Good, I hope she get raped by some black inmate
>>55706618
>German Neo-Nazi
She's 87yo, remove that crummy "neo" part
>>55710269
lol
>>55707683
She has a reputation for shit like way before there could be an onset of dementia.
>>55707884
how the fuck do you know that?
>>55706618
because there was no holocaust
6 millions was not even the number of all deaths, half of which were Poles.
>muh 6 million
>>55706618
>THE LAW'S THE LAW!
>PUNISH HER!!!
Sickening.
>>55711114
Doesnt matter..that old lady should be able to investigate/ deny the holocasut as much as she wants..the truth fears no investigation.
>>55709198
pooland
>>55711860
>what it actually shows is NKVD officers murdering civilians
Do you really have to fight memes with memes?
>>55706618
t-h-o-u-g-h-t-c-r-i-m-e-
>>55707573
Holy fuck this. Would I be jailed for denying Roman atrocities? Would I be jailed for denying Serbian atrocities? Why the FUCK are we jailing people for denying the holocaust? Discouraging discourse on the matter only breeds ignorance which leads to the problem they are claiming to try and stop.
