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Hey /pol/, I'm looking to redpill a family member on islam and migration in light of the attacks in paris. Would appreciate it if you could drop some links to articles or videos on the subject
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>>55700143
show her this of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
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>>55700179
or him
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>>55700017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy7LX0Au7MQ
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>>55700261
>Denmark: immigrants are 73% more likely to commit crimes than ethnic Danes

>Finland: Immigrants make up 2.2% of population but account for 21% of all rapes

>France: Immigrants were shown to commit more crimes, even when compared to ethnic French people of a similar economic situation

>Germany: Immigrants are five times more likely to commit violent crimes than their German peers

>Greece: Half of all criminal activity is attributed to immigrants, including rape, armed gang culture and thefts

>Netherlands: 63% of all serious crime is attributed to immigrants who make up 7% of the population

>Norway: Every rape in 2007-2009 was committed by an immigrant. 45% of all crimes are committed by immigrants, who make up 14% of the population

>Spain: 30% of all crimes are committed by immigrants, who make up 15% of the population

>Switzerland: 69.7% of the prison population are immigrants

>Sweden: 25% of of all crimes and 90% of all rapes were attributed to Immigrants

>United Kingdom: 20% of all crimes in London were committed by immigrants. Half of all frauds and a third of all rapes were committed by immigrants. Almost all cases of child grooming have been attributed to immigrants

>Italy: 39.1% of all rapes are committed by immigrants, who make up 10% of the population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCOLcMqdpls

It's Molyneux, but it's pretty good imo.
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>>55700017
Immigration is the war on the middle and lower classes by the rich class. This is all you need to know.
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>>55700017
>tfw your parents are 100% redpill
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/3ssbql/with_open_gates_2015_europes_migrant_crisis/

Upvote this documentary and get it to the front page, this is the best possible opportunity.

>inb4 reddit
Make accounts or use your troll accounts to upboat and make comments about how at last you truly see.
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>>55700491
Don't have so much on the immigration facts.
Some other people can probably help out though.

>>55700617
>tfw you slowly redpilled them and now they're almost 100% redpill
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Ann coulter - Adios America

pretty based as fuck book so far
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>>55700617
>tfw your parents are unironically full marxist, and used to be members of the communist party
>tfw every time they visit the city they are disgusted to see what it has become, but refuse to admit it was their ideology that made it that way in the first place
>tfw your grandfather is shunned by half the family because he admitted he regrets fighting for his country in 1940
Still love all of them of course, but it's a weird family desu.

>>55700707
Pic and link show the situation in the Netherlands. Data is from immigrants that came in in 2003, and their occupation 10 years after arrival.
http://www.cbs.nl/nl-NL/menu/themas/arbeid-sociale-zekerheid/publicaties/artikelen/archief/2015/meeste-immigranten-binnen-tien-jaar-weer-weg-2013.htm
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From:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0176268006001145


Much of the research on immigration and Western welfare states seems to support the conclusion that immigration flows, with the average characteristics of the last 15 to 20 years’ immigration, have tended not to be to the advantage of natives while advantageous for immigrants.

In theory, migration and trade between countries with different factor endowments of labor and capital are equivalent and mutually beneficial to those involved. Thus immigrants should normally be considered an asset as long as their factor endowments differ from those of the natives. But in the presence of a welfare state with strong redistribution, gains from migration may become asymmetrically distributed between immigrants and natives (Wellisch and Walz, 1998 and Hansen, 2003). Thus it is not at all given that immigrants are assets to Western welfare states.

4.1. Gains from immigration In the literature four types of gain from immigration are commonly suggested. The first one is the classical “immigration surplus”: immigrants can make the host society richer. The second one, which has received much attention lately, and for good reasons, too, is the positive effect of immigration on the age distribution in the host society. The third one is that immigration can make the labor market function more smoothly (Zimmermann, 1995: 46). The fourth one is the positive demand effect of immigration: immigrants increase aggregate demand for goods and services and in that way contribute to creating jobs and income for natives (Borjas, 1999a: 87–88). While all these positive effects of immigration are certainly possible, their realization is critically dependent on the characteristics and behavior of the immigrants.
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>>55702154

As will be argued below, the overall characteristics of the present immigration into Western welfare states do not invite optimism as to the extent of positive economic effects of immigration into most host countries, except perhaps with respect to the effect on the functioning of labor markets.

In addition, as shown in Fig. 2, an “immigration surplus” can only be realized at the price of increased income inequality. This distributional effect of immigration may be politically difficult to accept, especially in the strongly redistributive welfare states, which in most cases happen also to have strong social democratic parties and trade unions bound on keeping society “just”.22


---Everything considered, there is not much empirical evidence to support a conclusion that immigrants arriving during the last 15 years have been economic assets for Western welfare states. The main reason is relatively low labor market participation rates and relatively high unemployment levels. It also appears that the negative impacts of immigration are strongest in the most generous welfare states. Thus one may possibly consider it a stylized fact that immigration into Western welfare states of predominately low-skilled immigrants is advantageous to the immigrants, but not for natives, in the short run, and that the gains from migration are most asymmetrically distributed between immigrants and natives in the most generous welfare states.
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