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>>55681772
I mean, he's not really wrong here.
Well, he's right. ISIS specifically wants to polarize the situation. Only possible way out of the clusterfuck is to cripple places that export Wahhabism economically so that Islamists no longer associate fundamentalism with prosperity, and even that won't have appreciable effects for the next 15 years.
>>55681772
Syria and ISIS are not the problem. France is. Why the fuck would you frog leg munching fucks surrender to only 8 people?
>>55681772
Really, they're just hurting their own believers who aren't extremists.
>>55682157
>trolling this bad
Get your shit together, cunt. You used to shitpost way better.
>>55681772
In translation: The leftist pacifist solution to the problem is to not react at all to public massacres and allow them to take place, tolerate them and keep importing more muslims in the meantime.
I'm on to you fuckmed
And I'm happy to oblige what they want. If they want to poke the bear, they better be ready when Europe fights back.
>>55681772
Funny thing is also that some of these entitled refugees most likely are not part of ISIS but creates hatred by behaving like assholes and harrasing people.
For me it appears that ISIS is not actually required to trigger some hatred towards refugees. They manage to do it by themselves by just acting like they act back in their home country.
I'm sick of this narrative.
"Not all Muslims are bad guys, we gotta import more and give them more free shit so they don't kill us."
STOP IT. There's a certain point in life where you stop bending over backwards and fight back.
>>55681772
He's right about everything except the conclusion. They are purposefully triggering a backlash and they will be hoist by it and there is nothing wrong with that.
DEUS VULT.
Circular Logic.
"There isn't a war between the West and Islam" therefore people want to start a war between the west and Islam, therefore there is a war between the West and Islam, therefore if you fight against the literal death and destruction they're doling out against you, you are supporting them? Fuck that.
> tfw you frog fucks will support boots on the ground / combat in syria over immigration reform and deporting literal fucking terrorists welcomed with open arms.
Gas the sandkikes. Racewar now.
Marion Le Pe Pour l'empereur.
>>55681772
Hes absolutely right.
And your stereotypical /pol/ fag will fall right into it.
>>55681772
This is so dumb
>If someone punches you in the face for the purpose of getting you mad, then getting mad is doing what they want you to do
No shit.
No fucking shit sherlock.
ISIS wants the polarization of the west against Islam? They want to strengthen their cause? Why has no other terror organisation thought of this before?
Best. Tactic. Ever.
Every terrorist group in existence commited attacks in countries of the west, not because of its strategic value, but to bring attention to them and their cause. Islamic terror, as aware of it as we might be, is not a military threat in any way to the western world. Even if attacks like this would happen every week, they would still not be of an operational value.
So yeah they want to polarize they want to bring attention to them, but this is every attack by every terror group.
This wasn't an 'act of war'. This was advertisement.
But thanks for pointing it out mister obvious.
>Nadar Atassi
A muslim defend Islam after yet another PR campaign by a muslim group.
>>55682609
>Marion Le Pe Pour l'empereur.
Marion Le Pen Pour l'empereur.
Hopefully obvious typo.
IF IT'S A WAR THEY WANT!
>>55682640
and what do you suggest we do?
keep inviting more? the barbarians are already inside the gates.
ignore the situation? 140 people died lastnight. for what? i will not ignore the blood of my European brethren.
Even if he was right, are we supposed to just do nothing and bring more of them here?
>>55682640
Yeah because appeasement has always worked out so well in history.
There is no narrative of war.
There is a war.
There has always been a war. Even as young a nation as we are, we STILL saw this war. We saw it TWICE.
There has always been war.
>Islamophobic
stopped reading there
He's right, but the problem is he doesn't know why he's right. Islam and the west are incompatible, more and more people wake up with every attack. Even my normiebook is crawling with anti kebab sentiment this morning mixed in with a few liberals hashtagging.
>>55682506
Well he's got a point. In case the whole "white western world" stands against islam even the less religious persons will turn radical. It multiplies problem not solving it.
>>55681772
He's not wrong, but that does not mean that we should be welcoming these 'refugees' with open arms as we have been doing.
>>55681772
>Don't fight back or they win
Anyone seeing a pattern?
>>55682640
Taking more immigrants is just making situation worse. Lot of these immigrants wont get job. They will become marginalized same way as many of the native european youths.
The difference is, while marginalized native stays home and plays video games, watch movies or some shit like that. Marginalized muslims are more likely to turn into some jihadists.
I can imagine even worse thing. Governments will start pouring money to these immigrants to help them get jobs and not become marginalized. While not doing shit for native youths. This tendency we have already witnessed in europe. They just shrugged of homeless natives, but when immigrants came, money started to pour into this shit fest, so that no refugee would be without roof over their head.
>>55683517
>In case the whole "white western world" stands against islam even the less religious persons will turn radical. It multiplies problem not solving it.
Then why the FUCK do they dare deign us with their holier than though presence?
If the muslims love being muslim then they deserve to exist under sharia law in their own self defined Muslim HELLHOLE.
Christians; Orthodox, Roman Catholics, the fucking Westboro Baptist Church as well as Athiest (people who directly oppose these peoples beliefs) can live together without
LITERALLY KILLING ONE ANOTHER.
Why can't the FUCKING mudslimes?
GAS
THE
SANDKIKES
RACE
WAR
NOW
>>55681772
so what's your alternative, sit and do nothing to hear the same story three months later?
>>55681772
>he thinks doing nothing will solve the problem
Also you are already at war liberal cu cks
>>55683828
That is exactly how Islam takes over countries
>>55681921
He is. Bending over and saying thanks and "we love Muslims" hasn't stopped Islamic terrorism.
They kill us regardless of if we hate them or not. So his point is completely moot even if it may hold some truth.
>>55683953
give it time, john, this ain't over yet
>>55681772
the opposite can also be true, but it works even less
>>55681951
NATO should also be making attempts containing the situation in Syria and Iraq. It doesn't matter whose narrative it's fulfilling, our nations should be trying to decapitate their leadership, disperse their members and destroy their finances. It's the only way the refugees now in Europe will ever be able to go home. Before you say that their plan is to never leave, you're probably right, that's why effective legislation needs to be passed to give people the boot when the time comes.
so we should just accept these types of acts as an inevitability even when we act 'nice'?
>>55684830
thats not what he said
>>55685059
enlighten us
>>55681772
this wouldn't be an issue if all muslims got the fuck out of muh beautiful Europe.
>>55681772
"GUYS, GUYS SERIOUSLY. ISIS ARE ACTUALLY SECRETLY THE JEWS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET YOU ON THEIR SIDE. SERIOUSLY GUYS."
>>55683816
>can live together without LITERALLY KILLING ONE ANOTHER.
Man, current events is just a history period. It's a threat but is not the "end of the world" or "apocalypse" of what you're calling it in /pol/.
There were far more hard times with religious terrorists in the history, Russia for example was filled with Orthodox terrorists, "Black Hundreds" in the end of 19th – beggining of the 20th century, so what? And they're raising their heads now with the events in Ukraine, and it's after 70 years of forced atheism.
So it happened before, it happen now and it will happen ith the future. So no "holy war", no whiping out, no genocide will help to solve the problem.
>>55681772
Really? Yeah, because bowing down and open borders is working so well!
>>55681772
I'm gonna hang this post right on the fridge.
>>55682684
>Nadar Atassi
>A muslim defends Islam after yet another PR campaign by a muslim group.
This.
Just look at his name and move on.
>>55683969
he's not saying that tho senpai
>>55682878
>and what do you suggest we do?
Crush ISIS.
Seriously, he's competely right. They want a polarisation, and if it is truly inevitable that we get one, at least France can make sure ISIS won't live to use it.
>implying he is wrong
>implying race war now gas the mudslimes isn't exactly what isis wants
>Muslims attack Christians/Westerners
>Muslim response: "Don't retaliate, its what the bad guys want :^) "
I'm done believing this meme. All Muslims are cancer. If they're not shooting, they're defending the shooters.
>>55685588
this
>implying jews aren't the first ones to push the immigration into europe and the first ones to want us to be tolerant not be racissss
>>55683517
>>55681921
>>55681772
>>55681951
>>55682217
>>55682640
>In case the whole "white western world" stands against islam even the less religious persons will turn radica
The entire Western world IS AGAINST ISLAM.
Everything we stand for is the anthithesis of their beliefs. Muslims are not, and will never be, compatible with modern human civilization. They are a cancerous plague in human form, nothing more.
>>55685888
>Muslim response: "Don't retaliate, its what the bad guys want :^) "
not really. there is a difference between self defence, which is more than appropriate, and a mindless witchhunt.
>>55685888
>Muslims attack Christians/Westerners
>Muslim response: "Don't retaliate against those who haven't done this. Bomb ISIS plx"
All terrorism is about wanting to polarize people.
I'm so sick of muslim apologists, it doesn't matter if 90% of all muslims are not terrorists. Look at nazi Germany or communist China or Russia, it's not like everyone was a nazi or communist or agreed with everything that was done in the name of their ideologies but look at the death toll.
The innocent majority does not make up for the psychotic retard minority, they are doing large scale deeds of horror.
>>55681772
He's not wrong on what ISIS want. But that is not an argument for multiculturalism and """"tolerance""""
>>55681772
Has a terrorist group EVER actually said "This is to trigger an islamaphobic backlash"?
Usually they have pretty clear reasons that aren't that.
>>55681772
>bring refugees
>bring muslim immigrants
>get bombed
Sick.
>>55681772
He's completely correct, but /pol/ wants all muslims to be murdered anyway because ISIS are deliberately trying to manipulate them into thinking the west hates them
>>55686268
>The entire Western world IS AGAINST ISLAM
Lol how? The only country who's against islam, not openly of course, is Japan. Others are tied with it so hard they can't get rid of it.
>>55686849
PAKI
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>>55681772
Bend over and let ISIS kill your population or else ISIS wins.
>>55686908
More like murder ISIS instead of your own population.
>>55686761
Don't be xenophobic. It's all part of a master plan by ISIS to take over ze europe and right-wing racists are just helping them. The people bombing Paris aren't the problem, we are.
>>55681772
this guy probably dreams about killing infidels and raping their women, so fuck him. Liberalism is their taqiyya
>>55681772
This narrative falls apart when you consider the other shit that muslims get up to (like rape gangs) which have nothing to do with what happened in France.
He is completely retarded cunt asshole wrong.
The logic is sound. The reality and practice shows he is either a dumb retard, or a sneaky bastard trying to get sympath for the religion of "peace"
Islam has no compromise, no tolerance for the west, its people, its laws, its women, its beta men.
For how long has the west respected islam and islamic people in countries. Would islam do the same in our modern times?
No, islam is a religion of rabid dogs. They will bite you when you dont expect it, even the kind acting ones.
We all fundamentally know this. Its just the "educated", goverment fucks that think their magical logical thinking has any entrance into islamic wave.
No compromise. They must compromise.
NO tolerance. They must show it.
Humans cannot debate a rabid dog. That has been shown for years now.
http://strawpoll.me/6002316
>>55687161
Also, just look at Muslim countries.
BasedJew sums it up well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
>>55686990
well said, listen to this guy goyim, the problem is that these muslim population isn't well enough integrated, they need more tolerance and better living conditions
>>55681772
> look at me, I'm the real victim
> nanoagressions are worse than murder
> why aren't you giving me more attention you racists
>>55686970
>bomb ISIS
>poor helpless refugees come to Europe because war
>they bring extremists to Europe
>now you're fighting ISIS in Syria instead of in your own country
Why can't we just leave them alone and let them settle this shit for themselves? The faster they all kill themselves here, the better for us. Just close the borders and get comfy.
also
>shitskins
>your own population
>>55687161
This. Apologists have literally no idea what it is they're defending:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEMHKO5MC6c
They think Islam is this "vibrant culture" of happy brown people, that totally doesn't talk about killing and raping and terrorizing the kuffar behind closed doors.
>>55687317
Because they won't stop coming until Syria has calmed down, and ISIS stands in the way of that.
Crush ISIS, let Assad get control back of the country, send them back, be done with it.
But ISIS needs to go for that.
>>55685792
>This
The theology of ISIS is that there is a war coming between the west and the caliphate. They believe that apocalypse hasn't come because no caliphate has been true until now. They believe they've finally done it right, so they're waiting for war.
If we crush them, we disprove their theology. But they'll keep picking a fight until we do.
>>55686990
>and right-wing racists are just helping them.
Actually yes.
The current policy take roots in the post-Hitler repentance. If the mustache man didn't fuck the things up so hard the nationalists in Europe would be leading now.
>>55687481
>they won't stop coming
Why can't we stop them? The situation of Syria is none of our problem. Why should we care for the subhuman monkeys who fight between themselves in the shithole they call their country?
>>55687574
They'll just keep attacking us forever. What is it about appeasement you people don't get? It does not work with Muslims, they've attacked us for 1300 years. Do you know how peace with Islam was finally bought in Europe?
The Reconquista, and the collapse of the Ottomans.
They had to be pushed out with weapons, and then, and only then, was peace achieved.
>>55687481
> implying you will get rid of ISIS without boots on the ground
Do you really want iraq war 2: eletric bogaloo?
>>55687481
if only
>>55681951
The problem with that is it would involve crippling Saudi Arabia, the #1 financier of Islamist terrorism in the world, but they're our greatest ally. See:
>From 14 February, President Roosevelt and King Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia met aboard the Quincy. During the meeting, President Roosevelt tried to persuade Saud to give support for Jewish immigration to Palestine and hoped that Ibn Saud might be able to offer constructive advice on the Palestine issue. There, Roosevelt and Saud concluded a secret agreement in which the U.S. would provide Saudi Arabia military security – military assistance, training and a military base at Dhahran in Saudi Arabia – in exchange for secure access to supplies of oil.
We gave Saudi Arabia all this money to funnel into terrorism. It's always been our fault, ever since 1945.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzeiA5MkTXw
>>55681772
What that dude said is 100% correct.
This is all part of the ISIS strategy, they dont just do these type of stuff to kill 100 civilians. They gain supporters that way and these supporters are currently moderate muslims, which will become radicalised by the increasing islamophobia.
>>55681772
Attacks like the holocaust were committed to purposely trigger an anti-German backlash. It was only done by the Nazis so they could show that the world hates them and Germans had to unite to fight against the retaliation etc.
>>55687787
I don't. But to be honest, I don't think French intervention can make the situation worse in ISIS controlled territorry, and should they work together with Assad, it might even end with a stable government.
>>55687818
You're absolutely clueless.
>>55681772
Isis is correct in this , when muslim extremists terrorize civilation ofcorse there will be backlash , and yes civilans die, but that how war works , do they actully think that will automaticly make all muslims isis-tier extreme?
They will get their war aginst the world
Let's see how long those mad goat fuckers will last aginst the entirety of civilation
>>55687645
Polacks dont even take any refugees. based
He's not wrong, extremist groups do this to polarize the issue and garner more support, in the hopes of escalating the conflict and turning more people to their side.
They overlooked a couple of important facts, though:
>ALLAH IS NOT REAL
>THE WEST IS SMARTER, STRONGER AND BETTER EQUIPPED THAN YOU
>YOU WILL NOT WIN THE COMING WAR
Bring it on, scum.
>>55685646
дa этo вce хyйня и ты caм этo знaeшь
>>55687818
Yes goy, don't fight the shitskins coming to your country or you'll be helping ISIS. Open the borders and bring those refugees. If you make them mad, they'll destroy your country because of all the islamophobia and it's not like you could do anything to keep them out here, right goy?
>>55687818
>This is all part of the ISIS strategy, they dont just do these type of stuff to kill 100 civilians. They gain supporters that way and these supporters are currently moderate muslims, which will become radicalised by the increasing islamophobia.
I love this excuse. If it was christians or atheists becoming more radicalized because people are atheophobe or christophobe, that wouldnt fly
Does anyone have that photo of cool clock ahmed that says "when your bomb fails o you tell them its a bomb and they beleive you"?
>>55682878
>i will not ignore the blood of my European brethren
top kek what are you gonna do faggot? cry about it on 4chan?
>>55681772
Yes, well, these attacks could never have happened if there were no Muslims in Europe. So if we remove them, no more attacks (in Europe).
>>55687818
>moderate muslims, which will become radicalised
Not if we kick them out of here. We need more islamophobia as a way of retaliation, not less.
So.... What would Isis or any terrorist gain from trying to make a major portion of the world vilify and hate anyone who looks like you do? To get more converts from muslims who start getting treated worse?
>>55687715
What's your solution, genocide?
With regular Muslims, appeasement is probably the way to go. ISIS is different. They created the Islamic State to bring about the apocalypse, and that requires a war.
What concessions do you recommend for people who send no delegates, recognize none of their neighbors as legitimate, and will attack you until you fight? You're trying to negotiate with a highjacker who wants nothing other than to crash the plane.
>>55688165
>So if we remove them, no more attacks (in Europe).
are you really that dumb?
>>55688214
>Not if we kick them out of here.
uh that is exactly how they become radicalised
>>55681772
EVERY FUCKING TIME the sandapes attack and kill innocent people it's always the fault of white people sick of their shit
And like every other time liberals will offer the "solution" of letting more Muslims flood in
>>55688079
So nice to see you sink deeper and deeper, spewing your ''jews behind it all'' delusions while your head is being cut off by a muslim.
>>55681772
I actually agree with his premises; it's probably true that the terrorists intend to provoke a reaction, and that reaction will probably benefit them in the short term as they recruit more sympathizers. My conclusion though is the opposite of his.
If the friction between Europeans and Muslim immigrants reaches a head an a real state of conflict is entered then the terrorists will not win, because countries are more powerful than nongovernmental groups, period. All they need is the political will among their public to act and they will be able to stop these groups in their tracks, and I want to see that happen. All their rhetoric and appeals to their followers emotion will come crashing down when they find out they simply cannot fight against real systemic opposition from state institutions.
>>55687818
Fuck you, you disgusting piece of faggot shit.
What he said was vomit inducing bullshit. Virtually lacking any empathy or sorrow for the actual fucking victims of this attack. All he cares about are members of his own tribe, dirty sand nigger Mudslimes. Not a single mention of the 300 killed or maimed.
Fuck you and fuck every single shit skin mudslime across the world. There is a war between the west and Islam, and I can't wait until we wipe you scum off the planet.
>>55688219
I've heard they want to provoke the west into actually fighting them for real, because apparently it's prophesized that then Allah will descend from the Heavens and crush the infidels or something.
I say let's oblige them and give them their apocaliptic battle. See how that works out for them.
>>55688351
They can become as radicalised as they want. If they're not in Europe, we shouldn't give a fuck.
>>55688150
>>55682878
enroll
It's fairly obvious he knows what is coming, and as a muslim he hopes to at least get a few more SJWs on the side of the refugees and terrorists before people snap and kick them out.
>>55687818
How do you know ISIS plans? How arrogant must you be to think you know what their motives are? How ignorant must you be to not understand a Muslim must follow the life of Muhammad - an evil violent paedophile
No one says all Muslims are bad this is a non sequitur, we say all Muslims are following an evil ideology
In a real war, muslims would get exterminated by western countries. ISIS and all those idiotic muslims don't quite undestand it. Sadly Europe is currently brainwashed by the jew and will probably do nothing about it, hell, France will probably pay 'hate reparations' to muslims in a couple of weeks
>well he's kinda right
Fuck off retards. ISIS didn't sit in a conference and say, "hmmm... how can we turn Europe into an Islamophoic Fortress? That would be so intolerant, right? xD"
ISIS wanted to send message and that was "we're taking revenge on you for attacking us."
Fucking leftists are so retarded
>>55681772
>ISIS
>Wants backslash
>Backslash so strong it wipes them out of the planet
Retarded suicidal muslim logic, I say nuke them.
>>55686970
Muzzies arent "our own population" much as they cry that they are European.
>>55686268
How? Most of the west is okay with it.
>>55688165
Lol, gozer praat zo edgy op internet. Ondertussen pijpt hij achmet op shool
>>55688460
Yeah it just seems like a counter productive thing to do if they're actually trying to win some sort of war here.
people love to play victims
>muslims
>niggers in america
>kurds
>liverpool fans
it's the same in every aspect of life
>>55687968
Western leaders would never work together with Assad.
Thats a pipe dream.
Also if the french decided to intervene, Murica would also like a piece of the action.
>>55688268
>What's your solution, genocide?
Boots on the ground, full-scale NATO involvement in Iraq and Syria. Stomp out ISIS completely, install puppet governments ran by Westerners to ensure no power vacuum leading to another ISIS forming in the aftermath.
>>55688512
>In a real war, muslims would get exterminated by western countries
That's really the crux of it, the only question is when this brilliant plan the jihadists have to piss off Europe starts to bear fruit.
>>55688629
I had to listen to some south african chick speak at a university here in Canada about how Canada hasn't done enough historically for the African race, as we didn't take a hard enough stance against slavery. All I could think of was that she's clearly never heard of the underground railroad or likely read anything beyond twitter posts.
>>55688268
>What's your solution, genocide?
>implying that's not the solution they're betting on
Google the word "hijrah".
Whether you like it or not this is an existential war, and that means you're going to have to accept certain realities about it, such as the fact you're offering a hand while they're cutting it off.
Remember Charlie Hebdo? Remember how terrorism then didn't reflect mainstream Muslim sentiment?
Oh wait, yes it fucking did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XOugYXYdmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkEUGdMAG1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC7HnvU6YVc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltBrBGJ60Qw
There is no such thing as 'moderate Islam'. Read the goddamn Hadith already. It talks a LOT about killing people like you.
First shots in WWIII have been fired and again it is mostly going to be focused on Germany vrs France.
Who would have thought the Fourth Reich would be synonymous with Allahu Akbar
>>55687161
Have been saying this all day to Muslim apologists. What happened in France last night has been happening in Britain on a smaller scale daily. What happened in Rotherham was not an isolated incident and I invite you to go for a walk around any busy British city on a Friday night, you will see no shortage of Arabic people harassing white female Britons. I'm not even phased when I see a group of Arabic men beating the shit out of a white British girl anymore. There's a reason the police here are racist.
>>55682684
It's not about protecting islam. It's by pointing out the obvious that this attack is purely motivated by modern-warfare tactics. Same as any other terrorist attacks. With calculated responses from the western population which in return will benefit ISIS agenda.
Or what a muslim is not allowed to talk about geo-politics?
>>55684345
this is literally how NATO fucked up those countries in the first place: trying to control and influence them
As if Europeans needed ISIS terrorist attacks to hate muzzies.
They're shitting their pants because if the right-wing wins, they'll be cast out of their welfare paradise.
>if you don't give muslims what they want, they'll get angry at Europeans and take what they want
So why not just give them the whole of France and establish the caliphate? You don't want those poor muslims to become "radicalized", don't you? It's all your fault anyways for being so intolerant, white man!
This argument only works if you're in favor of multiculti.
Become islamophobic and kick out every last muslim shit from Europe. Who cares if they "become" radicalized then, then they'll not be our fucking problem as they shouldn't be.
>>55688689
You'll still have suicide bombers and ieds.
There is only one solution.
>>55681772
liberals always find a way to do some fucked up mental gymnastics in order to make the right wing look at fault
>>55681772
>May tthe forces who wish for a battle of civilizations be defeated.
Noo! I want my happening! I want my crusade! Fucking normies ruining everything again! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>55688929
Is it a...final solution?
>>55688853
>implying ISIS is baised in Europe.
And trust me nothing will happen in the end.
Right wing still needs to obey the constitution. judges etc.
>>55689088
>88
>>55689107
Not really with a big enough majority.
It will never happen because the majority currently seems to be women and men who behave like women.
It's not muslims so stop saying it's muslims ok.
>>55688289
The only muslim attack in Europe before this shitstorm was in the Munich Olympics, and even there they received support from home grown muslim networks.
Hard to carry out an attack without a support network.
>>55688351
Dead people cant radicalize.
>>55688418
Barbara spectre is calling.
>>55682640
don't respond to bait posts, guys.
>>55689315
So thankful we have all these white suburbanite liberals to tell us what someone else's religion is about.
>>55682338
Don't you have to go cook some dinner for muslims, dhimmi?
>>55681772
Wake up and realize that Islam is at war with the world. It will never stop. It can't be reasoned with. Giving peace a chance will never work. The only goal of Islam is either to convert or destroy. There is no middle ground.
The moderate and liberal Muslims are deceived. The fundamentalists are the true face of Islam.
You cannot go to bed with a viper and then act surprised when it bites you.
The entire world needs to unite against the evil of Islam. This means Jews, Nazis, Christians, Buddhists, Atheists, Pagans and more. ALL OF US must unite. There can be no more division. All of our petty differences must be put aside.
This is truly the last crusade, and if we fail our descendants will be slaves to the evil religion of Islam.
We cannot fail. This is the great war of our lifetime.
>>55688599
>op school
Leuke projecties, jochie. Je moet 18 zijn om op deze site te posten. Gezien je eerste gedachte naar school uitgaat, zal je wel minderjarig zijn.
>closing france borders
>flights remain untouched
>still arguing about left/right
>stil arguing about borders yes/no
>still arguing about religious beliefs good/bad
keep the sheep divided while the hidden agenda gets pushed deep into our anus.
>manipulative mainstream media
>shills flooding pol
>pol lost critical thinking
Pol 2015 = reddit 2.0
ˢᵐʰ ᵗᵇʰ ᶠᵃᵐ
>>55681772
It's been shown time and again that an outrageously high % of Muslims living in Europe have sympathies for terrorist acts, believe Europe should be under Sharia Law, believe offending Muslims should be a crime etc. along with a whole host of other repugnant ideas that threaten us all. If you think there aren't millions of Muslims living with us right mow who aren't glad about this then you're fucking stupid.
>>55689336
>thinks I supposed to know the names of every self hating radical lefti jew.
You can kill them all and make the world a better place for all I care.
>>55681772
When will people realize that cultural relativism is bullshit?
>>55688418
Kill yourself, jew. You brought them here.
>>55685792
THIS
Hollande knows it's time. 'We will launch Pitiless war' and 'act of war by IS'.
He hasn't used those expressions lightly. ARTICLE 5 INCOMING.
>>55681772
He's right. ISIS wants to polarize the issue. His mistake is that he assumes that ISIS knows what it's doing. ISIS is led by idiots.
The result of a right-wing resurgence in Europe (which is now totally unstoppable) is going to be the exact opposite of what Muslims want--it is going to be the expulsion of Muslims from Europe, and the merciless annihilation of their people from the air. Islam will not get to "fight the good fight" and it will not enjoy prosperity, they will be bombed into oblivion, starved to death, and gradually smashed until there is nothing left of their civilizations but dust in the desert, and this time nobody is going to help them pick up the pieces.
Just because ISIS thinks that it wants this doesn't mean we shouldn't give it to them. They want to be annihilated? Fine. Annihilate them. They want to be expelled? Fine, expel them. We lose NOTHING by giving them what they want.
>>55689488
>88
>>55681951
>Only possible way out of the clusterfuck is to cripple places that export Wahhabism economically so that Islamists no longer associate fundamentalism with prosperity,
Absolutely haram. Pick another solution. Like shitting on your own citizens more.
>>55689747
Does this look like the face of a leader?
>>55689745
Come here and kill me fag.
You fags Get nothing haha Erdgas, qatar,arabia want built an osmanic Imperium isis Doing just their work till 2020 Europe will Stuck in a War like the amen in the pray
>>55688268
>Appeasement
Do you want show people that you benefit when others do awful things?
Erdogas or Erdogan you choose
>Be nice to us or we will join ISIS
Charming.
>>55688746
It's because we let them walk all over us.
>>55681772
Statements like these all sound like thinly veiled threats to me.
>do not dare to criticize Islam for this, or we "moderates" will also join ISIS
They want everything to go unchanged, for Europe to keep accepting refugees and tolerate Muslim barbarism. This time, we shouldn't back off.
>>55689324
>The only muslim attack in Europe before this shitstorm was in the Munich Olympics
so you really are this dumb
>>55690096
He went to the concert hall and saw the blood and body parts sprayed all over the floor.
His whole entourage stood outside afterwards with stone faces, as he talked about war. All those men were full of contained rage, and hatred.
The whole thing reminded me of Bush in the rubble after 9/11. Total war is coming for IS, maybe on the ground as well.
>>55683828
Carpet bomb them until there is not a single muslim left
Just buy out all properties from muslim, and send them back to whatever muslim country they'd like with their money.
Destroy every mosques.
Islam is just not compatible with peace, just look at all the shit that happen all the time in muslim countries.
I don't care if it makes a lots of peaceful "victims", at least they won't be dead like those from last night.
>>55690883
Franco Russian war agains ISIS with one of them supporting the rebels, the other one supporting the regime. Turkey sometimes bombing the Kurds and us bombing Hizballah once in a while. Merkel accepting refugees from whoever side is loosing at the moment and Obama being concerned and doing nothing. Should be interesting.
>>55691237
Over 80mosques shut down the last YEAR in tunisia
>>55681772
stupid
>>55691237
>islam is not compatible with peace
very true, only reason we are slightly more moderate is because of Ataturk
>>55691439
Has the west ever done anything simmilar? Lmao even 3rd world sandnigger shitholes do more to counter this shit than we do.
well then, if all "moderate" muslims could please renounce their faith so we know who to kill? thanks. you can even convert back afterwards since there's nobody to persecute you
>>55689315
> Twitter handle "mariapalestina"
> hyphenated surname
Everything checks out.
>>55689401
anti muslims do that too m8
Well if someone argues that he is fighting with you and then punches you in the face should you just take it to not prove him right?
>>55692070
more like if somebody punches you in the face should you hit the man standing beside the two of you
>>55681772
LOL. "fleeing war"
>complains about balls being too big
>literally rapes 7 year olds
>complains about slow interent
>complains about food being to boring
>too bored
>wants more money
>wants better housing
yeah, they aren't fleeing war.
>>55681772
He doesn't understand that the Isamophobic backlash isn't just in ISIS's interest but in most countries interest as well beside the right-wings in Europe. They can strengthen their own world view as much as they want, at some point they will have made enough problems that the "civilized" countries "must" come and remove the islamic tumor that is wahhabism.
It may create more terrorist groups but those left will not have the financial means to continue at the same level as those there are there now and the remaining people will join the rest of the world like China, the nips and Germany did. They got infiltrated by Islam and surely they can be rehabilitated again.
>>55692159
No I didn't advocate punching everyone I just asked if you should just take it and not react in any way.
GAS THE ARABS
NUKE MIDDLE EAST
RACE WAR NOW
>>55692670
i dont think you understand the OP image then
its saying dont react against the peaceful people, not ISIS
>dont fight back, dont even look at the problem and its just going away on its own
>>55682157
Mate as a fellow Aussie who knows how to shit post like a pro, that was fucking pathetic cunt. Get good
Yeess, yesss, goy be smarter you can't change anything with violence, good go..i mean guy Fck H8 :^)
How many people are required to die before "the people who have a narrative that they are at war with us" becomes the same thing as "the people who are at war with us"?
It's okay! Just shut down the city! The attackers only have a narrative that they are at war with us!
>>55692851
Its saying "don't bring islam into this".
Which I personally think is insulting to the french victims and their families.
>>55681772
ok, and what are we supposed to do then.
serious question, why do you all want a war? wouldnt tons of innocent non-islam lives be lost? isnt that what ISIS wants? am i missing something?
>>55681772
>>55681772
This
>>55692958
Also why is it after every attack like this a million hipsters have to step out and preach stupid shit like this
they can just say "Pray for/hope for" or whatever non-religious equivalent and just leave it at that
they use every tragedy to push their college level psuedo-hipster bullshit like "THE REAL VICTIMS HERE ARE THE MUSLIM PEOPLE" or "DONT LET THESE ATTACKS GIVE INTO ISLAMPHOBIA"
its always some fuck that you know got off his tumblr page after writing a 10 page argument about how all men commit rape in someway and safe spaces are needed but refuse to believe that we should be safe from Islam extremist
i mean i could understand if they had one flow of logic, bad things happen so assume the worse, but thats not it. They pick and choose which bad things they should fear and which bad things they get to blow out of proportion.
To watch them push aside the deaths of 160+ people in favor of spreading some bullshit message shows they have no humanity left, and now are just an emotionless shell made up of whatever the hell tumblr/college/media has jammed into their heads
>>55693252
I'd buy you a double double.
>>55687816
>Adam Curtis
Amazing filmmaker 10/10
>>55681772
>the most tragic irony is that backlash may target refugees who themselves had bee fleeing ISIS' reign of terror.
There are people that still think those refugees are even from Syria/Iraq?
Friendly reminder that the primary objective of Islam according to their holy books is LITERALLY world conquest.
If you want to appease the jihadis, you ultimately have only three choices: Convert, pay Jizya, or die.
>>55694514
>Friendly reminder that the primary objective of Islam according to their holy books is LITERALLY world conquest.
>implying Christianity isn't about world conquest.
>>55681772
May the forces who wish to beget an apocalyptic 'war of civilization" be defeated
He can be talking about two groups there...
ISIL
and
/pol/
>>55694691
Where are the Christian suicide bombers? Where are the Christian gunman teams shooting up Parisian streets?
>>55694766
That's not what I said.
>>55681772
so basically: "please don't hate us and send us back home like you should have from the start, we'll keep bombing and killing you and demanding you adapt to us but you must do nothing or you're helping the terrorrists".
and people actually defend this bullshit.
>>55694766
what is the spanish inquisition goddamn canada you're my fucking neighbor do some research
>>55693877
Because it's about what is actually happening. ISIL has repeatedly shown that they are very much an organized bunch and know the ins and outs of psychological warfare.
They use social media and crowd funding and movie editing and everything they possibly can to advance their own point and claiming that it's just some ragheads who want to blow shit up without thinking about the consequences is ridiculous.
All the things that make people think that it could be a false flag attack, are perceived that way, because they seem too organized, too much intent on having a diverse effect unifying the west against the middle east and the middle east against the west.
ISIL is capable of this, and with their religious background as an apocalyptic cult (read up on that srsly) it's quite thinkable that they would do so intentionally.
So yes, the kneejerk response that /pol/ gave is precisely the kind of thing they are hoping to accompish for a wide swath of society.
>>55681772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
over a billion islamic extremists
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>>55694963
>>55694766
The day America educates Canada about world history and is ashamed in their stead.
Truly it is the end of the world.
>>55681772
>Oh no! Right Wing racists are interfering with our plans of multiculturalism!
Yes. We are. Quite deliberately.
Onward!
>>55688648
>Country X gets a terrorist attack on home soil
>Obama calls Hollande asking if he wants to tag team
seems legit
>>55681772
"ISIS wants you to hate them because reasons and strategy. Sucking Muslim cock is the only way we can fight ISIS on our terms!"
>>55681772
He is right. Just look at Sweden. They bend over to the Muslims and they dont get any bombings and terrorists attacks. Instead Muslims just walk in and rape all their children peacefully.
Fucks like in the OP are the _accomplice_. He should be brought to court, just as anyone who starts nazi propaganda would be (in most countries its illegal).
>>55694963
yeah except spanish inquisition ended a good while ago, this shit is happening now.
>>55681921
The entire world, not just the west, is at war with Islam and has been for over a thousand years. He's absolutely wrong.
>>55695303
Are you seriously implying that if France wants to go boots on the ground, americans will just sit out and watch?
>>55683517
>less religious persons will turn radical
no they won't. Anyone that "turns radical" has already held and supported those beliefs. Driving them over the edge would just be a way of outing a hiding enemy.
It is true that ISIS wants to create a "us v. the kuffars" narative, and that being intolerant towards muslims would give more credibility to that POV.
But on the other hand we have not given European Muslims the climate which would force them to distantiate themselves from IS/Salafism/Wahabbism/etc...
If Muslims are handed the excuse "not all Muslims", and if their defence is taken up by others, then there's no real reason to brand themselves differently.
A "secular or mordern" Islam that is as vocal as ISIS can only be created out of necessity, out of social pressure. If Islam is more heavily criticized, is seen for what it is, Muslims wanting to belong to Western society would need to rethink themselves in a more radical way and would create a seperate identity for themselves.
Others could then rightly be seen as enemies of the West, and identified as such.
meanwhile, ben affleck is still sucking islamic dick
>>55695178
so instead just be a massive cvck and bend over?
Why the fuck haven't we napalmed their caravan of Toyota tundras? I mean it feel like a good old mass bombing is just what the doctor ordered
>>55681772
>continue to let them take power
>fall under sharia
>lash back with full force
>go to war with sharia
it's your choice, but I'm not letting these shits have any sway over my Goddamn constitutional rights
The problem is, as per usual, that the big players supporting wahhabist terrorist groups will be left untouched because they're pals with Usa. Mainly Saudi Arabia.
As long as you have these countrioes supplying them with funds and support terrorist are not gonna stop. We have to kill the source of them.
I disregard his view because he is a muslim...
Round them all up and send them home. No more attacks perpetrated by Islamists
Also Czech em.
>>55695214
If you let them all bukkake you, they may not suicide bomb us. Thank you captain sweden.
>>55681772
No appeasement. There's only a hardline solution to this. Muslim population will always serve as a basis for muslim terrorism.
Its absolutely right
Despite what your ZOG warmongers spout to you, they are only enemies of Israel.
Not that assimilation will help in this case, segregation has always been the answer
>mass immigration of military capable but not yet radicalized men into europe
>terror attacks that strenghten the europe's radical right
>attacks on muslims surge
>masses of not yet radicalized muslim youg men become radical jihadists
>europe burns
>????
>PROFIT
>>55681772
I don't care. I don't care if it was a false flag either. There should not be Muslims in western countries. If we didn't allow Muslims in the first place these things would never happen.
>>55681772
Even if that was the narrative so fucking what? We could kill every single Muslim in year if we actually gave a damn and didn't hold back.
Either we destroy everything and everyone in the Islamic State, or we continue to deal with this bullshit which should not be tolerated.
>>55681772
He's not wrong.
However, the sooner we can through away the myth of moderate Muslims the sooner we can get to cleansing Western lands.
If having them all radicalized helps that along, fine. So be it.
>>55682381
Well said.
>>55695178
> too much intent on having a diverse effect unifying the west against the middle east and the middle east against the west.
It already is middle east vs west. Just because one side wants to stick their head in the dirt and cower doesn't make this any less true. I'm not saying military intervention is what's needed to solve this problem, but this type of thinking is what leads to your mass refugee problem and eventual homegrown terrorism.
Yes, even if you stay out of their lands, when you have enough muzzies in your population they will start demanding things like sharia and special muslim laws, then they will start talking about independence movements. See all of SE Asia for examples. We've been fighting muslim insurgents since the fucking 1960's. Southern Thailand is rife with terrorist attacks against bars, brothels etc. because no other reason than it offends muslims. So don't be mistaken friend, muslims are your enemies, all of them.
He's not wrong, and if an entire religion of 1 billion people peaceful people can be easily grouped with such a tiny fraction of war mongering radicals, then the entire religion is faulty and needs serious reform.
>>55681772
who is this guy?
>>55696849
>not yet radicalized
oh so ticking time bombs, you mean. Yes, best to let them sit around in your countries and hope you don't do anything to possible push them over the edge.
Fucking ridiculous.
sooner or later we will arrive at a point where war will be inevitable. are these attacks provoking war? yes they are. and they are going to keep doing this until there is a war.
>>55693955
truly the most respectful gesture a snow-gook can perform.
>>55685888
this, to be quite honest, familiar-relation.
>these arent real muslims!
>they dont represent us
>ISIS hasnt done anything outside of the allowed doctrine of wahabbaism, an interpretation of the quran that scholars support as legitimate
>ISIS says theyre muslim, act like muslim
>attack europeans like its circa 945 CE
>"it is okay, kaffir, they dont represent us! A retaliation is what they want!"
well fuck them. better get their goat-fucking asses ready for the counter-strike of our generation.
>>55687222
>http://strawpoll.me/6002316
Damn
#notallmuslims
B-but muh syrians
Of course, no one cares about "backlash" in the aftermath of a right-wing terrorist attack. Mencius Moldbug was right.
unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2011/07/right-wing-terrorism-as-folk-activism.html
>Why does left-wing terrorism work, and right-wing terrorism not? As Carl Schmitt explained in Theory of the Partisan, terrorist, guerrilla or partisan warfare is never effective on its own. While an effective military strategy, it is only effective as one fork of a pincer attack. The terrorist succeeds when, and only when, he is allied to what Schmitt called an interested third party - either a military or political force.
>Left-wing terrorism succeeds as the violent arm of a political assault that would probably be overwhelming in any case.
>Thus, we note that there are two responses to terrorism: the natural response and the unnatural response. The natural response is to take revenge on the terrorist and everyone even remotely resembling him.
>Thus, Islamic terrorism is productive, because it results in increasing communal deference to the Islamic community and its progressive allies. Fascist terrorism is counterproductive, because it results in increasing communal intolerance toward the fascist community - which of course has no conservative allies.
>>55681772
>Muslims are at war with Christians
>Muslims are at war with Jews
>Muslims are at war with Buddhists
>Muslims are at war with Atheists
>Muslims are at war with Hindus
>Muslims are at war with themselves
Did i miss anybody?
>>55698791
japs
>>55681921
He's completely wrong. Accepting muslims and sharia means they've won.
The whole post is based on a false pretense.
The Western World IS at war with Islam.
As the western world is at war with any collecitivistic institution, that is not wanted by the individual to protect its individual freedom and life. The western civic society was build around the individual, who, for his own wellbeing, is able to participate in collective action, for example medical care.
This is DRASTICALLY different to the concept of collectivism implied by the traditional societies in the east, where the individual does his best for the collective. the endgame of western society is the atomised individual and the anoynmous state as a serviceman. the endgame of the east is a marginalised individual as the serviceman of the collective.
This is why the west is able to modernize, this is why the west is able to capitalize, this is why the west is able to colonize.
The western society is the answer to all of the worlds main problem, especially control of population.
By giving up this culture the western left participates in high treason not only against the western societies, but also against those poor souls chained in the traditional societies they want to comfort with their strange self-hate.
We are in a battle of cultures and the world prays we win it.
>>55694827
you said it without having to say it, that's how fucking stupid you are
>>55681772
nobody would give shit if you didnt just start fucking walking towards europe in masses bringing all kinds of crap with you
terror, rape, illness, violence, neverending fear, forced ideology, ruination of civilizations
all this is on muslims and everyone who allowed this to happen or promoted it to happen
before this is all over, there will be mayhem allover europe
if you win, you can have your sandbeliefs, you can kill each other as much as you want, you can bow down to your god and remove all the progress that would move the humanity forward
and in the end, there isnt anyone who actually won, only losers all of us if you manage to win
fuck muslims
>>55698791
I guess to better exemplify:
>Muslims are at war with Christians (Europe , USA, christians living in their own lands)
>Muslims are at war with Jews (Europe. Israel)
>Muslims are at war with Buddhists (Myanmar, and i bet they would love to fuck the japs and the chinese too)
>Muslims are at war with Atheists (What do you think they would do to Richard Tippens? Also Europe)
>Muslims are at war with Hindus (Pakistan VS India)
>Muslims are at war with themselves (Sunni VS shiite VS wahhabis)
Why do people like muslims again? They are at war with the whole fucking world.
>>55681951
shit, this is probably the most reasonable post on /pol/ I've ever read
>implying we should not backlash against muslims
Yeah we should just let them shoot people by the hundred and blow up shit because WE don't want to be hateful. Sounds like a plan that will definitely last and keep Europe safe.
>>55690883
I hope you are right.
Any links or pics? Would like to see it.
I had the pleasure of watching President Bush's 'bullhorn' speech live at ground zero... I remember cheering at the TV. I hope Franky Holland gave Frenchbros a reason to be proud and let them know this will be avenged.
>Soon We'll stand with all of our European brothers and finally wipe this scourge from the planet once and for all.
Can't wait to get drunk with crazy bastards.
>>55681951
That's actually not a bad idea.
One of the more retarded posts I've seen to be honest.
>>55682506
"not all" is an euphemism for "most"
>>55700027
It's actually been proven though, they've even said they want to make the west hate Muslims, so other Muslims can join their cause.
>>55681772
>the narrative of war between west and islam
It's not a narrative you dumb cunt, that's the actual reality of the situation. Being in denial doesn't make you magnanimous, it makes you a coward.
>>55681951
Yep, the problem leads back to Saudi arabia.
Again.
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>>55694963
>300 years ago: the inquisition (which you understand NOTHING about, at all, only the memes you see on TV)
>TODAY: radical islam.
Yeah, which one is the worse problem?
>>55698574
#yeseverymuslimyoucucк
>>55681772
Or, you know, they just want to follow their religion/ ideology and kill infedels
I doubt they thought this through tactically. They're just savages funded by oil money
>>55700131
Then you should have the same goal. A truly "moderate" muslim will never join ISIS or the like. The only people that would ever radicalize would be those that are already susceptible by harboring such inclinations. ISIS is essentially doing you a favor
>>55699818
so who is he and is he hiring? or is it just a vice/shit-story?
