WHO IS TO BLAME
The CIA, Israel, and the Saudis.
>>55669127
nah, just blame Obummer
not poland
blame the leaders and betacúck men who stood by and let this happen...also, the jews.
>>55669366
i read it took like twenty minutes for police to respond.. if true that seems way too long.
>>55669034
Anyone who has failed to defend the superiority of Western civilization.
>>55669420
yep that does sound like a long time. but i mean, getting caught with surprise like that, i really doubt rushing in without any idea would help
have you seen?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3dqzx9_images-de-la-fusillade-au-bataclan_news
>>55669034
TRUMP
>>55669366
>...also, the jews.
![quran[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/bwxHO1k.gif "quran[1].gif")
>>55669034
Shatan rules where Allah is locked out.
Inshallah Europe will turn to Islam.
You cry for Europe to turn against Islam and kill the Muslims, but you find like after 9/11 Islam only grows because only with Allah you will find peace from Shatan.
I invite all to Islam and inshallah you will find you will be separated from the losers when the day of judgement comes.
Repeat after me.
Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha illallah
“I bear witness that there is no god except Allah”
Wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasulullah
“And I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah
>>55669034
Anyone who has ever argued against having an armed civilian populace.
>>55671069
you know we're going to kill every last one of you, right? You're too dumb to know how to defend yourselves technologically. You do not understand strategy.
You have seen a fraction of our capability. We've been held on by a leash by your liberal sympathizers. We'll be left off, soon, and they you'll be dead. Your mother - dead. Your father - dead. Your sister - dead. Your brother - dead. Your wife - dead. Your children - absolutely fucking dead.
The difference between your threats and ours is that we have the ability. You have nothing. You have stones to throw, we have air forces, armies, marines, special forces, bunker busters and thermonuclear weapons.
We'll be off our leash, soon...and you, my friend, will be dust. Everything you've done, said, created will be deleted from all history (not that there is much there) - a fart in the wind.
>>55671419
need to update this pic
>>55671152
How was 9/11 and Boston Bombers stopped by armed civilians? How was Oklahoma saved by armed civilians by Timothy McVeigh?
How did armed civilians stop Newtown Massacre? Columbine?
Waco Texas was infamously an armed contained compound, how did that end?
Pick up a Quran, it is your only hope, your guns cannot stop a bomb, cannot stop your government.
You have 1 gun, the criminals use more criminals with 1 or 2 guns each to defeat you.
>>55669034
josh homme
>holds concert
>terrorists attack it
it's 2015
>>55671560
>Pick up a Quran
Maybe when I'm all out of toilet paper.
>>55671419
You cannot defeat Muslims, you can kill a million of us, a million of your people will pick up Quran until you are outnumbered.
Sorry Shatan, but Allah is guiding us, it is our destiny to defeat you.
Feel free to bomb the terrorists, we do not need them they are but for themselves, not us, we don't need bombs, we have the Quran, the Sunnah and the Hadiths which will lead us to victory of your corrupt criminal new world order plans Inshallah.
We are the biggest problem for the Illuminati and the internet is second, they are already taking the internet, they try to destroy Islam, it won't work.
Read Quran, you will find nothing is unexpected to us in what is happening in the world and how we are the scape goats.
>>55669034
A couple of terrorists
>>55671885
You will remember you said that on the day of judgement.
There is no harm in reading it, you may learn something the Jinn don't teach you on television.
>>55672361
>>55672268
you misunderstand. we are going to kill every single one of you. every single muslim. go back to fucking your goat, ahmed. our actions thus far have been neutered by liberals and marxists that wanted to win hearts and minds. we care not for your hearts or mind, outside of watching them rupture and burn under fire.
You have a book, compiled 400 years after Mohammads death, and a guidebook compiled even later than that.
You're dead already, Ahmed, and you don't even know it. So long and farewell - absolutely nobody will miss you or your awful stench.
>>55672361
learn what? that it's just a bunch of bastardized christian and jewish folklore thrown together with some local arab bullshit? holy crap, you actually believe there is a magical man in the sky who gave his word to a child/goat fucker!?
This is why you will lose. Because you are this. fucking. stupid.
>>55672758
>kill every single Muslim
so you would kill every single submitter to God including Jesus (pbuh) but we're the problem?
>our actions thus far have been neutered by liberals and marxists that wanted to win hearts and minds
so you are weaker than beta's wearing fedoras and feminists?
>we care not for your hearts or mind, outside of watching them rupture and burn under fire.
so you must be an Atheist then, so much for Atheists having morality.
>You have a book, compiled 400 years after Mohammads death, and a guidebook compiled even later than that.
Wrong again, the Quran is the knowledge, the 'book' is merely written down 30-40 years after the prophet Muhammad (SAW) based on the oldest fragments found which some may argue were even around while he was on the Earth.
Everybody around the prophet memorised word for word the Quran and compiled it on parchments, the Hadiths did not come centuries later but 250 years later, you may dispute what you read in the Hadiths as we do on a daily basis but that is why the Quran is also there so you can see if the Hadith matches the essence of the Quran.
>You're dead already
then why am I breathing still and it is you that is clearly flustered and unsure?
If I die so what? it is out of my hands and as a good Muslim I know I have nothing to fear.
I am merely doing Dawah to help you.
Your choice is to turn me away for Islam has no compulsion.
Interested? If yes I will help you, if no, say no and I will leave.
>>55669034
>murder millions
>arm radicals
>OMFG, WHAT HAPPENED! JE SUIS KEK!
>>55672851
وَإِذَا مَسَّكُمُ الضُّرُّ فِي الْبَحْرِ ضَلَّ مَنْ تَدْعُونَ إِلَّا إِيَّاهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا نَجَّاكُمْ إِلَى الْبَرِّ أَعْرَضْتُمْ ۚ وَكَانَ الْإِنْسَانُ كَفُورًا
“And when adversity touches you, no one comes to your aid except Him.
But when He delivers you back to safety, you turn your face away.
Indeed, humankind is ever ungrateful!”
>>55673572
>so you would kill every single submitter to God including Jesus (pbuh) but we're the problem?
Yes, because we would be killed first if we don't do anything about it. And stop mixing christianity with your cancerous religion.
>so you must be an Atheist then, so much for Atheists having morality.
Do you claim that the filthy muslims have morality outside of the shariah? All atheists I know have never tried to force what they believe to others.
Islam must disappear from this world.
>>55673999
Also, Shariah is terrible. I am not defending it or even imply it has any accepted morals by western standarts.
>>55671069
>posting this shit on 4chan
>>55669034
Here comes the islam cultist shills.
They're fucking cute.
Every leftist in the west is at least somewhat responsible.
>>55669034
we're all to blame, we've gone too far.
*sing*
>>55669034
Hollywood crocodile tears
>>55669034
1. Obama
2. Merkel
3.Nicolas Sarkozy
4. Francois Hollande
5. Jean-Claude Juncker
6. The "wet rag" Herman van Rompuy
>>55671069
>Look at the flag
Makes sense somehow.
>>55673999
>And stop mixing christianity with your cancerous religion.
Jesus was a Muslim, Christians went against Jesus command to follow God alone.
>Do you claim that the filthy muslims have morality outside of the shariah?
Sharia is Gods laws, the ten commandments are Sharia law which dictated the laws you live under today which are based on morality, you want to live in a world without morality, yes we have the morality, a world based on atheistic views would be immorality and popularity abused by the strongest corrupt people who join together to dictate them laws, hence Muslims are the biggest threat to the new world order.
I suspect you are now thinking about stoning people to death and chopping of hands and completely ignore the point.
>Islam must disappear from this world.
so you want submission to God to vanish, that is what Shatan wants, you exposed yourself.
>>55674081
>Sharia is terrible
read above.
>>55674526
>read above.
All I read is a bunch of bullshit. Get out of my board. If any of my countrymen sees you in real life, they would force feed you pork and murder you and your family slowly, drowning you in pig blood.
>>55674116
It proves the bravery of myself to even attempt Dawah on here, you are very welcome.
>>55674463
I have no flag, that is a symbol for you to know the land I reside in, I reject it but have no choice but to post with it against by wishes.
I ask the moderators to remove flags or give us the choice of the country flag or abbreviation.
Inshallah they listen and see it would do no harm to give us the choice.
>>55674788
it proves you are a beta virgin with no dick
>>55674699
>All I read is a bunch of b
I can lead a horse to water but I cannot make it drink
>they would force feed you pork and murder you and your family slowly, drowning you in pig blood.
I want to save your soul, help you and for you to become my brother at the dinner table.
You see the difference?
>>55674983
>I can lead a horse to water but I cannot make it drink
Horses don't drink piss.
>I want to save your soul, help you and for you to become my brother at the dinner table.
You want to save my soul by forcing me and my people to follow your religion against our will?
>You see the difference?
Yes, the difference is that one is trying to defend himself from a forced degeneracy by force, because that is the only way and the other one is trying to intervene in the other's life.
>>55674699
Dude he is just a troll, ignore him, he is trying to make the most out of this fire by making people angry.
>>55669034
No more tolerance.
Shut the borders.
It's time to purge.
>>55675318
It is not a troll, though. He is actively speaking in favour of islam without the intention of angering us. Trolls don't post like that.
>>55669034
You guys are nuts
so how did it went out
i just woke up 1 hour ago
>>55675593
Well your from a country full of potato munching liberals so fuck off
>>55675294
>Horses don't drink piss
if you were dying of heat exhaustion in a desert you would drink urine from a camel too if the prophet says it is good.
>You want to save my soul by forcing me and my people to follow your religion against our will?
I am not forcing you, I am offering you, there is no compulsion.
>and the other one is trying to intervene in the other's life
I have not enslaved you here, walk away and may peace be with you.
>>55675318
If speaking about peace and love is making you angry you should ask your heart whom is guiding you so, Allah or Shaitaan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVqqjOTdctk
>>55675479
How ridiculous, to think that a classmate of mine is from Marocco and he never imposed his own belief on anyone, neither does he like all these extremists.
Is funny, in the age of information to see people blind to how laws change as people do, there is no place for dogmas, any outcry I can imagine to this seems such a bland show of obviousness that I am at loss for words.
Anyway I still dont get if OP is quoting something that actually happened with Merkel or asking us.
>>55675771
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior
>>55669034
French government for not being on the ball
>>55674526
FTFY; fragments have been found which can be dated to less than 20 years of the Prophet's death
>>55672268
God will destroy you. Why? Because you evilly dishonour him. Every time you kill someone, you chant 'God is great'. You disgusting wretches try to associate the great First Cause with your bloodthirsty primitve Satanically inspired cult
>>55671560
You will burn in hell. Muhammed is a djinn, son of Satan. Fuck your god allah, he is the devil. You worship a murder and thief, he worshipped blood and riches. Perfect role model for you retarded English fucks.
Time to burn the tea.
>>55673572
Murdering non violent Muslims would be wicked. However humanity is being manipulated towards the end times. Muslims atrocities are inspiring western ones, and vice versa.
Still, only Muslims kill innocents in a cowardly way whilst accepting the hospitality of the countrymen of those innocents. This is despicable, and is the work of Shaytan
>>55673997
When will your God blow me up with a suicide bomber, and how and where do I show gratitude? Do I send a cheque?
>>55675771
>if you were dying of heat exhaustion in a desert you would drink urine from a camel too if the prophet says it is good.
I wouldn't. Stop saying what I would do if you don't know what I would do.
>I am not forcing you, I am offering you, there is no compulsion.
It is not an offer and muslims have shown that.
>I have not enslaved you here, walk away and may peace be with you.
You want to enslave everyone, though and by you, I mean the muslims.
>>55673572
>dawah
You mean taqiyya and conversion. Isnt it bad enough your kind killed innocents. Shit you cry about.
Regardless, the uk will sink and you will drown in pigs blood.
>>55674463
Netherlands is no better
>>55674788
Do you mean taqqiyah?
If you were really brave, you'd try a bit of preaching of 'peace' in Raqqah
>>55675943
Yet he was illiterate. Also, he was on drugs
>>55669034
Christians, since they wanted out of Socialism into EU, it's Christians who wanted into NATO, it's Christians who sold our countries to USA, it's Christians who voted for that cow. Literally dumb Christshits who repeat crusades through history so they have an excuse to crawl into Jew ass and save them there in desert lands, which of course is exactly what Jew wants.
>>55676366
The fact that your ancestors didn't sell out their Christian faith entirely is why you don't live in a Muslim country cetnik
>>55675943
Actually dates back about 400 years BEFORE muhammed, guess he stole that too, and wrote his name over jesus, just missed a spot or two.
>>55676286
>He had revelation written down almost immediately by several scribes and dictated to which part of the Quran that it belonged to
>This was all compiled within a few years of his death
Your claim of drugs is baseless.
RELIGIONS AND ISRAEL
>>55676472
It's the Christians who should be put in barn like stock animals, because they simply too stupid to vote or run politics without putting us in danger for religious reasons all the time. All European wars were because of dumb Christians who had their kek Kings and needed to wage some shit ass wars because of them.
>>55669034
Islam
>>55675943
Mashallah
>>55675947
>Every time you kill someone, you chant 'God is great'.
I have never killed a fly, if I were in battle and I were spared I would indeed show my appreciation to Allah.
If you are talking about the murderers then that is them, not me, it is not my place to put them in judgement, Allah knows what awaits them, I do not profess to know.
>>55676041
The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “Anger is a burning coal. It burns in the heart.” (al-Tirmidhi and al-Bayhaqi)
>>55676728
Pedophile druggo camel raper
>>55676869
Absolute utter bullshit. You know nothing. All feminazis are atheists and nearly all multicult sjws are as well. Be grateful for your ancestors who were persecuted in order to save you from barbarism. Although this didn't help you. In any case, what could you expect from primitive hill tribesmen that civilization forgot
>>55674224
why?
>>55674389
The actual list of culprits gets ignored.
>>55674389
>>55677087
Islam is associated with murder, and with good reason. Why does Allah allow this?
And you point out, there is no way to judge between a good Muslim and a bad one. I don't have a problem with Muslims who oppose murder, although most Muslims (if they do oppose it) oppose it very weakly. The problem is, that no one knows exactly who the good ones are. All the terrorists are considered 'nice boys' by all their Muslim friends. Normal muslims can become genocidal psychopaths within a short period of time.
And the terrorists seem to have a sound Islamic theological basis for their dogmas.
>>55671419
>We'll be off our leash, soon
no
>>55676869
So it's Christians fault that Communists wanted a more multicultural society?
Since when are Christians the multiculturalisms?
They always try to vote for the nationalists, but commies constantly accuse them of racism.
These deaths are YOUR side's fault.
>>55677131
All of EU parliament is made out of Jews and Christians, both left and right. Merkel is a Christian party, voted into power by the dumbshits like you. Sweden still has fucking monarchy, bunch of dumb Christians there too. Civilization wasn't created by retards who killed million people because they thought the earth was flat. Some immigrant Jesus religion from Israel isn't my ancestors, those are traitors who killed pagan ancestors. Christians are conquerors of Europe, same shit as Muslims.
>>55677560
Communism had laws when it was multicultural and there we actually had peace and no interracial relationship, because it was controlled by law and taught in school. Capitalism we have now doesn't even counts the immigrants, not to mention organize or sort them, Christshits wouldn't know any terms what they mean, since they do nothing but steal in politics, they don't even understand what their political goal is suppose to be. Those Christian political parties all just moan Jesus out of their ass and all Christians vote for them, why we are in this mess as we are.
>>55671069
Islam is religion of satan
>>55677597
You never contributed anything to civilization, whereas Christianity most certainly has. Most of Europe was converted fairly peacefully. Merkel has a communist background. The 'opposition' to Merkel is even more enthusiastic in its open door policy. You think any communist atheist parties oppose the zombie invasion? Not one. At least the CDU are doing this out of misguided compassion, whereas the Stalinist atheists want nothing less than the genocide of Europe
>>55677771
Ignorant imbecile. Read a book or something, preferably not written by Karl Marx or Germain Greer
>>55677974
Oh thx mr. Christshit for importing 10 million immigrants and sell it all to USA, this way we sure going to have more families and jobs. You sure only mean good for us when you employ Arab Ahmed as worker and American John as CEO of your Jew inc. industries.
>>55678049
I lived in Socialism dumbshit, everything costed 15 times less, especially apartments, we had almost no murders and everybody had a job. I don't need to read books in English written by some Amerishit about Communism.
>>55677771
>Communism had laws when it was multicultural and there we actually had peace and no interracial relationship
Kek, what is Yugoslavia? It both ended in violence AND had plenty of inter-ethnicity relationships.
>Capitalism we have now doesn't even counts the immigrants
How the fuck can you blame that on Christians? The communists are siding with the liberals in our country.
>Christshits wouldn't know any terms what they mean, since they do nothing but steal in politics
Again, that's communists.
>they don't even understand what their political goal is suppose to be
Again, communists.
>Those Christian political parties all just moan Jesus out of their ass and all Christians vote for them,
The fuck? Have you NEVER been to Slovenia, EVER?
In USA you can't be voted into office without mentioning god, in Slovenia it feels weird if a politician mentioned faith without criticizing it.
Liar liar, pants on fire.
>>55678104
What utter bullshit are you spouting you ignorant cunt? Stop farting out you're arse. and while you're at it, learn English you stupid goat fucking peasant.
>>55678251
Than move to Cuba. Your dream country is everyone else's hell.
Why should 2 million people suffer your heaven when you can just move to it with other people enjoying their own?
And btw, it's Yugoslavia that flooded Slovenia with enrichment from Bosnia!
>>55678251
Yeah and you had yo queue 3 weeks to buy a loaf of bread. Go back to your gulag Josip. North Korea is best Korea. And murders don't count if they are carried out by the state. Ignorance is freedom. Knowledge is slavery.
>>55678309
We had 3 deaths by going independent, there was no violence besides those "removed kebab" memetier you only know because you are stupid. The ones who killed Muslims back then were extremely foreign owned and insane Christians, who got into power when Tito died because some Christians though it was a good idea to have some deluded Christians be in government, that's what ended Socialism, that what caused Muslim genocide, that what cause American interventions. You know shit.
>>55678335
>WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, LEARN ENGLISH
>>55678309
Merkel never mentions Christ at all, afaic. Abbott, who imposed the most successful anti-refugee policies on the planet, specifically said (a bit embarassing, but oh well) along the lines that 'Jesus knew that the place for everyone was not necessarily Australia'
>>55669034
Well who got rid of Gaddafi and wants to fuck Assad?
>>55678434
Cuba is blocked by Americans for decades, what are you talking again Jesus ass wiper? If they had room to breathe they could buy new cars, but they are still more human than Americans who have lots of money.
>>55678551
What's your point, Ivan (Milat)
>>55678646
I can see that more individuals other than IS operatives need to be gassed
>>55676083
I am not those people you speak of, they are not of the Quran I know.
>>55676145
If you are killed by a suicide bomber this is not my doing, nor Allahs doing, nor your fault, we are people of free will. Allah can only provide the tools (Quran) but if the person using that tool misuses it then that is he who will be punished.
>but I will be dead
then you need to ensure you are a good person so when you are taken (regardless if Muslim) you are at the very least put in the lower heaven Inshallah.
>>55676187
>I wouldn't. Stop saying what I would do if you don't know what I would do.
forgive me for making presumption it was wrong of me.
>It is not an offer and muslims have shown that.
I offered you a chance, its out of my hands now.
>You want to enslave everyone
I would never want such a thing, you have but one person to bow to, Allah, which is why slaves were bought from owners and freed by Muslims in their lands.
I want you shoulder to shoulder with me only.
>>55676205
Taqiyya is not relevant here, conversion neither, I would like to see you revert to Islam but there is no compulsion from me, that is up to you, I can only offer, and I did, and now I am done.
>>55676223
I would like to retract the word brave, It was a misused term which displayed unintentional narcissism on my behalf.
>taqqiyah
not taqqiyah, it doesn't apply here.
>If you were really brave, you'd try a bit of preaching of 'peace' in Raqqah
I agree, alas I am not brave to do so.
Thank you for making me rethink my claim to 'bravery'.
Peace be with you.
>>55678535
>We had 3 deaths by going independent
"Due to the short duration and low intensity of the war, casualties were not high. According to Slovenian estimates, the YPA suffered 44 fatalities and 146 wounded, while the Slovenians had 18 killed and 182 wounded. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten-Day_War#Casualties
Liar liar pants on fire.
>there was no violence besides those "removed kebab" memetier
Tell that to Croatians. I hope they punch your Islam-loving lying face back in, you 2nd generation Bosnian/Albanian/Commie/whatever the fuck is wrong with you.
>Tito died because some Christians though it was a good idea to have some deluded Christians be in government
Dude, you can't just prevent Christians to be in the office in a country where almost everyone was a Christian. Why the hell do you Ahmed piece of shit hate Christians so much.
You're making the rest of us atheists look like fucking monsters. Please, just move to Cuba!
>>55678646
>Cuba is blocked by Americans for decades
>want to live in communism
>find every excuse not to move to some communist country
Pick only one.
>>55669034
Angela. German bros, how long are you going to wait?
>>55678785
You are a polite and thoughtful Muslim. I don't deny that such exist. There are bad people on all sides of every equation. However some of your co-religionists are aspiring to race and culture warfare on a grand scale. To be honest, so are some western anti-Islamists. It is unfortunate that a hardcore element of your co-religionists are causing havoc. Good Muslims need to oppose such people and denounce them, to prevent potential bloodbaths on both sides.
But unfortunately, I don't believe that moderates have sufficient voice or authority to bring the others to heel.
Now, some feel that just being a woman walking down the street is 'incredibly brave'. So bravery is relative. I don't mean to impugn your bravery, but I wish more Muslims would bravely oppose their fellow Muslim evildoers.
>>55677363
For the record, I think you are an intelligent guy, your posts stand out to me and I shall try inshallah to answer to the best I can but I am no scholar so I apologise if I do a bad job.
>Islam is associated with murder, and with good reason. Why does Allah allow this?
Islam is only associated with murder because of the actions of those who misrepresent Islam.
Therefore I can only conclude that it is not without merit that somebody should ask this question though it of course is an oft asked question.
Islam opposes these things you see bad representatives do, there will always be those who misrepresent Islam and cherry pick the Hadiths to impose an old out of context extremist interpretation of Islam, anybody who reads and studies the Quran knows this is not in keeping with the Qurans teachings, of course you will find non-Muslims doing the same thing but for them it is to dismiss or ridicule Islam, both are misrepresenting Islam for their own gain, both are wrong to do so, one may kill doing so, one may lead a Muslim to kill, one may lead a non-Muslim to kill a Muslim to do so, it will all be answerable by Allah.
>there is no way to judge between a good Muslim and a bad one
Allah is the ultimate judge, but we can of course make judgements ourselves to know who to associate with and who to embrace.
Of course we oppose the actions, but we cannot say "they are not a Muslim" because that would be making a judgement for Allah which is forbidden.
>All the terrorists are considered 'nice boys' by all their Muslim friends.
I am not sure of whom you speak, you mean like if a person is found to have fled to Syria to fight for ISIS and you see their friends on the television saying "I can't believe it, he was a nice boy", are you never seeing this when a serial killer is arrested? are you suggesting the serial killers family and friends really knew and are lying? I'm sorry if I misunderstand please clarify.
....
>>55679259
>You are a polite and thoughtful Muslim.
Tons of such appear right after they've killed a bunch of people.
I'm not buying it. The attack was coordinated, that means the media defending Muslims is, too.
>>55669034
Merkel is to blame, shave her bald and shame her.
>>55678914
Depends who you count in as our casualties. There were some drunk idiots running around with guns, somebody dropped accidentally a bomb on some abandoned farm house, some tanks arrived for scare tactics, some idiots opened fire on the street, it was over in a second dipshit, besides some talks and scared pants who ran around without heads. But what was between Croatians and Serbians was all between their non-Yugoslavian supported troops, they were Ustaše and similar idiots, we also had some type, they called them Domobranci, if you looked at what they were made of is some foreigners, mixed with foreign money, fighting for money, basically ISIS tier foreign sponsored dipshit mercenaries who gone then and raped some Muslims and later got bombed by same people who sponsored them to break apart Yugoslavia, that was the goal. Those aren't fucking Yugoslavian army, those are what you call Democrats nowadays, those people who thought they were Nazis when Hitler was long dead, those people who destroyed Yugoslavia so they can form EU, those people who now sit in EU as Christian parties or Democratic parties. Those people now tell us the same shit as they did back then when they stolen weapons from Yugoslavia and became rich by selling them aka Janez Janša and later Patria scandal & similar affairs, in Soviet Union you also had oligarchs selling the country once it split, mainly Soviet weapons. Now that we are in EU they sold also land and companies of Slovenia and again they blame Muslims, when they are the ones who made such laws to allow Muslims in so they can use them as cheap work force.
>>55679658
Honestly, i have no criticism for people like you who wish to rationally debate things. Frankly, and not disrespectfully, this is irrelevant. You with your fine words, can never convince someone with hate in his heart. Unfortunately the west has imported many muslims who have a hatred for westerners in their hearts, and are willing to kill in certain circumstances. You and I perhaps might not need to have this conversation, perhaps because you and I are not the problem.
>>55679785
Perhaps, and I do find the shilling in the media reprehensible. But I don't blame this particular individual. And there are decent Muslims about. Its just that there is a substantial minority/majority who'd be happy to kill us
>>55677363
continued
>Normal muslims can become genocidal psychopaths within a short period of time.
Then why have 1.7 billion Muslims on the planet not done so? people are people and will make their own decisions, if they are mislead by an evil person and become evil you can say "he would not have become evil if not for that evil brainwasher" but you are then deciding that person didn't have free will, and if they didn't have free will because they do not have the mental ability then you are accepting that they may not be responsible for their actions? so are you willing to forgive that person or make excuses? then now you see why some Muslims don't feel it is there place to condemn or may even make excuses for a terrorist.
I hope you see my point.
>And the terrorists seem to have a sound Islamic theological basis for their dogmas
So then you see yourself you could be easily swayed if you were a Muslim which brings me back to the point I made above.
So who are we to forgive, condemn, or anything when you yourself feel there is no place to judge them, the place for that judgement is with Allah, regardless what you believe it is beyond my ability to decide their fate, I can only say "I condemn their actions and they were misguided but do not represent me" but you will know that I will not be believed and if I start suggesting "well what if their intentions were good but they were manipulated to do a heinous act" then I am sounding like I am supporting terrorist activity so I cannot win either way so the best thing for me to do is to remain silent and that is why you do not see nor hear a massive condemnation, we hear it in the Masjids to not follow this path, but as humans we are told not to murder in general but there are still people who murder, be it Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu or by our parents in general and we know there are people lead astray to kill or take drugs or commit other crimes and find justification for their actions somehow.
>>55680011
Holy shit. You're the single most brainwashed maybe-not-a-Muslim on the planet.
If in Communism deaths don't count, they don't in any ideology nor religion.
>But what was between Croatians and Serbians was all between their non-Yugoslavian supported troops, they were Ustaše and similar idiots, we also had some type, they called them Domobranci
Christians kill non-Christians and they're mass murderers.
Communists kill non-Communists and they're just doing "god"' work?
Communists are more like Islam than Christians are.
All three are wiling to sacrifice their own wellbeing in promise of a better future and kill people who don't think it will work, too.
But at least in Christianity lying is a sin, where in Islam and Communism it's a tool.
And the fuck has Patria to do with Communism. You're clearly panicking and spewing all the communist lies that you've heard throughout the years because you don't know what to say in the real world.
>>55680336
>And there are decent Muslims about. Its just that there is a substantial minority/majority who'd be happy to kill us
If they're actually nice, it's despite Islam, not because of it.
In Islam, you're supposed to be harsh towards "kuffar".
>>55674526
>Jesus was a Muslim, Christians went against Jesus command to follow God alone.
>Jesus was a Muslim
>Jesus was a Muslim
>Jesus was a Muslim
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>>55680569
The so called political prisoners you talk about, in Yugoslavia we had Goli otok where we send political prisoners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goli_otok
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A total of approximately 16,000[4][5] political prisoners served there, of which between 400[4] and 600[6] died on the island.
"
Now look at those numbers, even Amerishits can't confirm more than 600 death in all those decades of Yugoslavia. We had less death than USA per year in prisons and not because of evil torture, many died of diseases. Do you know how many prisoners USA has every year? Yes, we killed some Nazis, it was war, so what? Everybody killed people, we killed very few. USA killed millions in Afghanistan and around and they have thousands of secret torture chambers. You are some stupid Christian dumbass.
>>55679658
How can a minority misrepresent Islam when a Muslim is supposed to follow the life of Muhammad as per sunnah? He did evil things to kaffirs. ISIS are the broadest interpretation of Islam whereas moderate Muslims cherry pick the nice parts. How do you explain this? Islam is dualistic, the good does not contradict the bad, they're both held true. How can you not know this?
>>55679259
You know the largest portion of victims of Muslim terrorists are Muslims, you think ISIS care if the entire Muslim world condemn them? they ignore the Quran and choose to manipulate their Hadiths to find an excuse to do what they do, if they ignore the word of God directly from the Quran they are not willing to listen to mere mortals, they see us as the enemy for not being extremists so they are already a lost cause.
There is no feasible way to have a complete 1.7 billion voices speaking out against them because nothing we say will be enough for them nor the critics. The Quran offers the authority to be good and just in the world.
A chainsaw can be used to provide wood to warm your family through the winter, it can be used to trim back the privets and make your garden look beautiful, or it can be used to kill a person and dismember their body.
>>55680336
>Unfortunately the west has imported many muslims who have a hatred for westerners in their hearts
I can assure you I know of plenty of Muslims who do not like the calibre of people entering the country too. many are Muslim in name only, the only hope is they come to the Masjids and adopt true Islam, not their culturally enforced belief, I don't care if they follow the steps of wudu and salat, they are not exercising Islam nor doing what a Muslim entails overall.
>You and I perhaps might not need to have this conversation, perhaps because you and I are not the problem.
You are an intelligent person and I have enjoyed talking to you, you will go far in life Inshallah and as you probably know it is my duty to dawah so can only hope you at the very least read the Quran one day if you have not already and I know you understand why I say I hope you join Islam Inshallah but Allah knows who is a Muslim and who deserves entry to heaven regardless, I hope you understand and suspect you do.
Assalamualaikum.
>>55680920
There are caves where thousands of corpses of political prisoners were found.
It was very similar to the holocaust.
You're just trying to disorient the conversation, the liar you are.
How does it feel that you supported the deaths of all those people?
Not good, right? That's why you try to deny it.
>>55681824
Please reply to my post >>55680971
>>55669127
this tbqh
>>55680920
News flash. If Communists didn't mass murder Slovenians, we're never have communism.
Nobody ever wanted it. People just kept their mouths shut because they wanted to live.
>>55675370
i'd never trust a religion that doesn't trust dogs. take your bullshit and go be a child abuser somewhere else.
>>55680920
And furthermore, I've never met a communist that didn't say how much they want to kill Janša or some other anti-commie they are thinking about.
It's always the same with commies. You lose every argument, so you kill all who disagree.
That's all you ever think about, just killing killing killing.
I bet you'd kill me right away if you could get away with it.
I'm not even Christian, nor Muslim, I'm not even a capitalist. But you'd kill me just because I'm not a communist.
I KNOW that.
>>55681881
>How does it feel that you supported the deaths of all those people?
It feels good. I I hope we fill the rest of caves with bodies of muslims and their current EUkek helpers.
>>55671069
*unzips nuclear missle*
*bombs your entire region*
*you die in a nuclear inferno because you think an invisible sky wizard will protect you while you have medieval technology*
nuffin persona, ked
>>55680920
Islam: religion of deception
Communism: religion of death
Christianity: religion of guilt
>>55669034
REMINDER THAT NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE BAD
Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
>>55682355
There.
I should be shocked it was so easy to get a communist to admit they love killing people who disagree with them, but I'm not anymore.
Communists are murderers, nothing else.
>>55669034
There French refused to pay gadaffi $4Billion to essentially be the wall blocking the human tide.
>the took him out instead
>now the pay the consequences
$4billion was the deal of the century tbqh
>>55682547
and you are a kek. Or you support destruction of traitors and enemies of nation of all kinds (germans and faschist collaborators in ww2, muslims, germans and multikult now) or you are a kek. I refuse to feel guilt, as guilt is for little keks like you.
>>55672521
I just realized shouldn't presidents and politic leaders be soldiers? I mean how they lead a country hiding inside basement??? They should be on the frontline flying a plane, driving a tank or w/e to serve their people. It's like nowadays the country serves the leaders .. most of them are fat, incompetent etc..
>>55682529
Just shut the fuck up, not all Germans were bad either but people were more than happy to blame them as a collective, still do.
At least they've done what they can to remedy the damages (even though most of it is fucking retarded) unlike muslimes who has never apologized for a single thing in their fucking life.
>>55682764
It's commies that destroyed the ethnic homogeneity of Slovenia.
Ideology that YOU are defending caused our downfall.
You're the only one that SHOULD feel guilt, but you push it on everyone else.
>>55681881
Those weren't political deaths, those were Domobranci, who decided to stick with Hitler, because they thought Hitler would win, not because they were very Nazi-like. In every war you have people who betray their own country, useful idiots for Hitler, but in reality more like an obstacle for Hitler that caused his doom. Those we killed and thrown into the cave. This is a topic in today's politics because those German-EU people are now in rule, those ex-Domobranci. They wanted to sell our country back then, first for Hitler, then for Americans, now they selling it to anybody. That was WW2 tier deaths, has nothing to do with political deaths. Janez Janša was first in Communist party, just to gain power, later he betrayed them, then he was also part of Domobranci pack and now he is in Christian party together with Democrats, those people are snake oil salesmen, they probably don't even believe in god themselves, only use god as way to get money. Christians were prosecuted in Yugoslavia, they just couldn't get money from abroad, since foreigners couldn't invest in Socialism, this of course made deluded Christian made up bunch of stories how they had it bad, so they could get the Jew money to finance their greed now in EU. Christians didn't had political power in Yugoslavia and couldn't get money from Israel, other than that they weren't send to Goli otok unless they really were annoying. We didn't kill people, we re-educated them to fit into society, some died of natural causes, but Goli otok was last place you would be send to be re-educated, you had to be really anti-Yugoslavia to get there. Goli otok hosted traitors.
>>55677012
>>55682055
>blame the US
>not the people who actually pulled the trigger and bombs
wow, I hope when the terrorist puts the that final bullet into your heads for being not-muslim, you utter with your final breath
>fucking 'merica
>>55680554
Why they can become genocidal is because they have a victim mentality, and also supremacist notions. Also Arabs are incredibly volatile. Are you Pakistani? Pakistanis and Indonesians are not as volatile. Yet still they produce suicide bombers. Yes its true that many muslims who are established in the west can't stand some of the new arrivals.
I don't expect western muslims to necessarily oppose IS in Syria, but as you point out the biggest victims of terrorism are muslims, and this will come home to western muslims if the spree of deaths continues in western countries.
Muslims for the sake of security for their own persons, need to crack down on radical nutjobs and terrorist recruiters within their own ranks.
And these guys are known
Anyway I have nothing against you personally, I would have no problem with breaking bread with you and discussing the ways of the world
>>55682881
M8, I was showing that a very large number of young muslims are okay with suicide bombings.
>>55682337
The biggest mass murderers of human history were all communist
Mao Zedong
Stalin
Kims of Korea
Pol Pot
Okay so Hitler was the exception. He was only socialist
>>55683091
>Those weren't political deaths, those were Domobranci
Domobranci didn't stick with Hitler, Nazis just armed them like USA armed some groups in the past. Domobranci just didn't want to be conquered by communists.
Either way, of course those were political deaths. Even if domobranci WERE Nazis, it's completely political, unless you admit that Communism is a religion... after all, it's never been proved to work and requires faith to believe it will.
>That was WW2 tier deaths, has nothing to do with political deaths
Communists killed most Slovenes after the war.
>We didn't kill people, we re-educated them to fit into society
Is that why there are mass graves in Slovenia that were barged several times?
Sorry, but communists got into power by killing people.
>>55683091
ENJOY YOUR PRAVDA COMRADE
>>55682991
It didnt. In 30 years they "imported" jugos in Yugoslavia less people moved here then from 2004 onward, when we are in EU. Look it up at stat.si. Former communist places are much more ethnically homogenious then western Europe. Most of those killed in caves are not Slovenians, but foreigners caught on the run.
You fucks are pushing guilt like bunch of sjws. I dont push guilt to anyone.
>>55669034
Blaming that twat is a lie and a shame
you know exactly who's to blame:
The Mossad and the Saudis!
oompa loompa doompa dee do...
Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha illallah
Wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasulullah
>>55683563
>WE'VE NEVER TRIED REAL COMMUNISM
Everywhere it has been tried it has produced mass murder, shortage of even the most basic items, the most blatant propaganda, complete loss of freedom
>>55683702
That's because no one ever wanted to move to a communist country.
Who really pulled the strings here?
Bilderberg Group?
Halliburton?
Rothschilds?
>>55683563
>Nazis just armed them
They got bribed by Nazis, you had such type all around Europe, even Romania. Those aren't real Nazis, they were scared traitors that thought Hitler would killed them so they gave Hitler their anus to fuck prematurely, so they can avoid death by Nazis. They were Christians of course, since they couldn't get all the churches to be golden in Yugoslavian times and wanted more money. In Socialism you get money from country and church is no exception to tax, it's just another company which is judged based on benefit to society, but in reality church had no benefit, we just had them around because of tradition. They just aren't happy no matter how much money you throw into them.
>hard working Palestinian girl that learnt German and is trying to fit in wants to stay
>Merkel tells her to fuck off because there is no room
>800 000 Syrian refugees
>lol plox come
But you know what the problem is? It's you guys that would hate people like the girl to come in, because all this hatred you project, liberals use as an excuse to allow all these refugees to come in. If your slogan was "Hard-working people who want to live in Germany, and be proud Germans, please come", you would have more traction
>>55683702
Most of minorities in Slovenia are from ex-Yugo country.
>>55683702
>I dont push guilt to anyone.
>Former communist places are much more ethnically homogenious then western Europe
Bullshit. Bosnia is completely mixed. Tito mixed people on purpose, because he wanted to create one Yugoslav ethnicities by smudging and thus erasing other ethnicities, including Slovenians.
Only 89.3% of Lithuania are Lithuanians. Estonia has only 69.8% Estonians.
Latvia only 62.1% Latvians.
Communism is a political ideology that requires faith to believe.
You believe the stuff you said to me based on faith.
>>55675446
Do you realize what a bomb that size would do to Earth?
>>55675771
>there is no compulsion
What is the punishment for apostasy?
And how can I trust you, considering taqiyyah exists?
>>55671419
>We
What's your contribution specifically?
>>55669258
>yes blame our puppet...good goy
>>55684071
>They got bribed by Nazis
Communists gave better positions in society to other communists. Bribery.
>they were scared traitors that thought Hitler would killed them so they gave Hitler their anus to fuck prematurely
That's communists again. They killed people who didn't obey.
>They were Christians of course, since they couldn't get all the churches to be golden in Yugoslavian
Have you ever seen a Slovenian church? They're very simple and poor.
There were Christian communists, too.
>In Socialism you get money from country and church is no exception to tax, it's just another company which is judged based on benefit to society, but in reality church had no benefit, we just had them around because of tradition.
I agree that churches are only good for identity and tourism. That's why Bled is the money making tourist spot in Slovenia.
But your argument is a red herring.
Domobranci were killed by Communists so communists stayed in power. Domobranci had no choice but to seek external power, because they're get killed either way. They tried to be neutral like Switzerland, but Communists were simply too bloodthirsty - more than Nazis.
That's why Switzerland got to stay neutral, but Commies didn't let it happen to Slovenia.
>>55684223
Taking data from stat.si, 282,204.00 imigrated to Slovenia from 1961-1991, while 294,045.00 from 1991 till 2014. From 2004-2014 (EU) 207,648.00 immigrated.
http://pxweb.stat.si/pxweb/Database/Dem_soc/05_prebivalstvo/40_selitve/05_05N10_meddrzavne/05_05N10_meddrzavne.asp
Bosnia and most places you mention were mixed before. Baltic states belonged to Russian empire more then century before SSSR, the Russification started then. Soviets continued it. Same with Yugoslavia. The idea is from 19th century, when croats and serbs both wanted yugoslaw nation under their leadership, where they tried to copy German and Italian unification. It was a doctrine allready in Yugoslav kingdom, where socialists actually partially reversed trend (one nation with three tribes vs. federation of brotherly nations). National federal states were abolished at end of 20s and brought back in SFRJ.
>>55685230
Slovenia still has communists.
Alenka Bratušek and Zoran Janković are communists and they were the one happily posing with Muslims for building the first Slovenian huge mosque.
You say you're so against churches, why don't you oppose mosques.
And it's always communists that are the most multicultural ones.
>Bosnia and most places you mention were mixed before
You're so full of shit. Tito mixed people on purpose. They had laws or something... soldiers were constantly relocated inside Yugoslavia, as were teachers.
Everything else you're spewing is just trying to distract me. It's red herring.
>>55685230
That's true, I can confirm that.
>>55684898
In Communism you don't get something out of thin air and you don't get voted into office, you have to work for Communist party, then if you produce good results for country you get promoted. So what if the top Communist leader has more money, you change in Democracy to people all the time and with that come all those other thousands of leeches who need to be replaced, you get much higher money leakage and no efficiency. Why do free markets even need governments at all? They don't run the market, free marker works on its own. Why does Sweden have monarchy? Just pointless money throw away, since we have EU and not even they care about us, they rather import immigrants who are cheaper. So at this point we aren't even people, we aren't a country, we are only some random market place with random people, no need for government at all, this is anarchy we have now, since total capitalism is anarchy where the richest rule and wreck whole world aka Arab world, Africa and now EU, but muh Jesus they use to control you, could also be muh Allah if it works faster.
>>55686026
Just convert to Islam already, the brainwashed meter is off the scale
>>55685799
>Communists
For Socialism to work you first need to be independent, then you need to own your country, we have none of that. They can be anything they like you hivemind, but they don't follow Communist party or Socialistic laws, they live in capitalism and follow EU. Socialism is about control, we have no control in EU, we don't even count immigrants or know what nationality they are, we have no control over our politics.
>>55686252
How is TPP going Australia? I bet you all excited to get all those Muslim Asians in this new trade agreement.
>>55684898
The both sides killed people and wanted them to obey. If domobranci won, the same shit would happen regarding killings. If they managed to get americans take Slowenia we would end in western block, and get even more immigrants.
Bribary is stupid word in civil war, both sides fought for power and their leaders would gain from victory. No other side did anything and communist used situation to lead rebellion. Germans wanted to kill/relocate the population, you cant help them and be patriot at same time. In Greece you had both sides too, just that they somehow cooperated during war and started civil war after liberation.
>>55686026
>then if you produce good results for country you get promoted
In other words, you're at mercy of those in leadership. Always and always.
>So what if the top Communist leader has more money
Because that means communism has classes of people. They're just people who supported communism instead those that gave benefit to society like in capitalism.
It's a pyramid scheme.
>Why do free markets even need governments at all? They don't run the market, free marker works on its own.
'They have governments for international affairs and keeping the population respecting the rules.
>Just pointless money throw away, since we have EU and not even they care about us, they rather import immigrants who are cheaper.
Than oppose immigration and stop wasting time trying to convince people that communism works and doesn't kill people.
>>55686448
>If domobranci won, the same shit would happen regarding killings
Says who?
>If they managed to get americans take Slowenia we would end in western block, and get even more immigrants.
That has nothing to do with communism. That's geopolitics and I disagree with you either way.
>>55686448
>Bribary is stupid word in civil war
Great. You're losing the argument so now the language doesn't mean anything to you.
What difference does it make if we're at war or not. What happens at war does not stay at war.
>Germans wanted to kill/relocate the population
You mean Nazis.
Communists wanted to kill population.
At least Nazis were killing foreigners in their own country.
Communists killed people who rightfully lived there and didn't want to live in a different system.
>>55686489
Why would you want another leadership if you don't even want to change thousand year old Christian bullshit? What's wrong with people that actually are bound to country and have to work for country's benefit to be promoted in government? This EU is destroying European race faster than all those dumb wars we had in past through centuries. Why would anybody want this EU parliament unless he is a EU shill like yourself. We got no benefit whatsoever from joining EU, we lost jobs, prices are higher, we eat bigger shit, 3 times more crime, people get divorced more often. The only thing we gained is couple of extra rich who are owned by Jews and more of your precious religion, including lots of new religious shits.
>>55669034
>refugees have something to do with this terrorist attack
>le kek
>>55685799
Where the fuck did I advocate mosques or muslims? If communists wanted mosque, they could built it allready in YU. Jankovič is more liberal then commie, but you fucks consider everything communism. You use it like fucking sjws use patriarchy and rasism.
First mosque was build in Austro-hungary in Log pod Mangartom for bosnian soldiers fighting for Austrians in ww1 btw.
And yes, there was mixing promotion under Tito, but it was taken from former state, it was not his invention. Yugoslav idea is from 19th century and is based on nationalism, they wanted to copy Bismarck unification of Germany. Its the same shit Hitler advocated for his reich (to create common German identity instead of local ones like bavarians, hamburgers...)
>>55687013
>What's wrong with people that actually are bound to country and have to work for country's benefit to be promoted in government?
Because it's debatable if they're helping or harming. Considering we disagree on everything whether it's good or bad, you should have enough self-awareness that you can see it.
You're assuming commies are never wrong. So you think replacing non-commies with commies can never make things worse.
By that logic, What's wrong with people that actually are bound to country and have to work for country's benefit to be promoted in government in fascism, monarchy, feudalism, capitalism, socialism, mixed forms of government etc.?
You're simply assuming that if all power goes to a commie, the guy will somehow arrange everything so everyone will be happy.
But in truth, all you're doing is centralizing capitalism into one big company that owns everything.
>>55687354
>Where the fuck did I advocate mosques or muslims?
That's a no true Scotsman fallacy.
Your commie friends do it.
>you fucks consider everything communism
You fucks consider everything Nazis. You're not one to talk.
>And yes, there was mixing promotion under Tito
THERE WE GO!
Just like it took a while to get one of you commies to admit you killed people, it only took that long to admit Tito promoting mixing people.
LIARS LIARS LIARS!
>>55687609
Look, if you change government today with any left wing or right wing, you still get same shit, since they all follow EU parliament, UN, NATO..etc. foreign companies. You change nothing by electing new people in democracy, you only throw away more money, since each time you change people that aren't actually running shit you have to teach them again how shit works and every position in politics changes with new people for nothing but high expenses. This voting bullshit is useless waste of time and money, especially now in EU when we don't make any decisions, we get ordered how much weapons we buy by NATO, we get ordered who we should allow into country by UN, we get ordered by EU parliament what our laws should be. We aren't a country, we are slave labour and on top of that in process of being replaced by even bigger slaves from Africa and Arabs.
http://strawpoll.me/6002316
How do we solve the Anglo problem?
>>55687609
>What's wrong with people that actually are bound to country and have to work for country's benefit to be promoted in government in fascism, monarchy, feudalism, capitalism, socialism, mixed forms of government etc.?
nothing. Ideology is pretty meaningless anyway as concrete government decisions are more important then some broad ideology (which is usually so broad, that its meaningless)
Hate speech and the systematic racism that drove those poor youths over the edge.
>>55688085
>This voting bullshit is useless waste of time and money, especially now in EU when we don't make any decisions
Than what you want isn't communism. What you want is independence and direct democracy.
In Yugoslavia most countries had a foreign leader, too.
>We aren't a country, we are slave labour and on top of that in process of being replaced by even bigger slaves from Africa and Arabs.
That's true, but communism would make it even worse. Whoever's on top would own everything and everyone else is told to be happy with what the country will give them.
You really aren't making a case for communism.
>>55687763
>Anticommies support Germany and EU, therefore you suport multikulti. Pope support migrants.
Its still a fact EU did more damage to Slovenian nation in 10 years then YU in 50.
SUCK AHMEDS DICK YOU STUPID EU SHILL
>>55688385
I don't care what leader rules in Socialism or how much money he steals, all i care is that he has his Communist party bound to country and they can't invest into foreign land to have escape plan whenever they need to run away, they should go straight to fire squad if they sell the country, if they are incompetent they should get another job. In democracy some people who know shit vote for some handsome Christian dude who doesn't do shit but steal and can't be prosecuted because of political immunity and his rich buddies. There should be a plan what he needs to do, else get the fuck out of politics. Now we take some EU money and they just use it for their own gains, nobody punishes them, they construct nothing, they get elected again or put in charge of another company which they again...would you believe it, screw up again, since nobody punishes them like in Socialism, nobody prevents them to store money in foreign country, they are covered for life of steal and betrayal.
>>55688718
>Anticommies support Germany and EU, therefore you suport multikulti. Pope support migrants.
Now everyone that's against communism is against sovereignty?
Again, "if you're not one of us, you're against us and a horrible person". Typical commie mentality.
>I don't care what leader rules in Socialism or how much money he steals, all i care is that he has his Communist party bound to country
So, no it's okay to steal as long as you're a commie?
Is communism really so fucked up or are you trying to help me win an argument against it?
>>55689239
*So, NOW it's okay to steal as long as you're a commie?
>>55689239
>now everyone that's against communism is against sovereignty?
That's a no true Scotsman fallacy
>>55669034
surly not merkel. She took only the Syrians in. France is to blame for bombing North Africa and Syria. let the moslems kill each other.
>>55689750
No it's not.
You saying it's a no true Scotsman fallacy is a false equivalence. You're assuming there's only two sorts of people. Commies and scum.
>>55690379
you started it first
>>55690552
>you started it first
There really is a such a thing as a no true Scotsman fallacy.
But you're dealing in absolutes: "You're either with us or against us." You've started with a fallacious argument, how the fuck do you expect to come to the right conclusion from it, even with proper argumentation from there on?
>closing france borders
>flights remain untouched
>still arguing about left/right
>stil arguing about borders yes/no
>still arguing about which religious beliefs good/bad
keep the sheep divided while the hidden agenda gets pushed deep into our anus.
>manipulative mainstream media
>shills flooding pol
>pol lost critical thinking
Pol 2015 = reddit 2.0
ˢᵐʰ ᵗᵇʰ ᶠᵃᵐ
>>55669034
The Jews?
>>55690751
You claimed that everyone who dont hate Tito is for multicult while I proved you that EU is doing more damage and that former non communist states are more keked.
>>55691449
>You claimed that everyone who dont hate Tito is for multicult
I claimed commies are the ones supporting multiculti in Slovenia and that Tito was promoting it in Yugoslavia, yes and I still do.
>while I proved you that EU is doing more damage
So you admit Yugo was doing damage.
You didn't prove it, you claimed it, btw.
> and that former non communist states are more cuc.ked
Slovenia is, because we're doing better than other states so they're all moving here.
We could oppose Schengen and migration without leaving EU altogether (keeping the markets and foreign investment).
I don't think it's impossible at all. We can still be monocultural and connected to EU.
Strive for that, why won't you.
>>55690769
what do you suggest that should be done. It's impossible to cancel all flights to country like france
>>55669127
/thread
>>55674526
>Jesus was Muslim
Jesus of Nazareth was a Jew, a Galilean born of the Tribe or Judah. He was a rabbi, some called him a prophet, but as he even said, he came to fulfil the Scripture. He attended Passover, was dedicated to the Temple, and was buried with full Jewish rites. He was a Jew in every sense. This is why Christianity and Judaism are brother religions. Our Messiah is one in the same and provides for our salvation.
The love of Christ grants me eternal life, and though my God is judge, and King of Kings, he still loves me. Crawl and grovel to your Allah, you pagan mongrel. Your Allah demands obedience and retribution, belief in my God has cultivated the largest expansion of science and knowledge and philosophy in the world's history.
Luther's writings on faith and goodness of men due to being made in God's image lead to the founding of the humanitarian movement. We respect and welcome all culture. It is our very weakness that is our strength. Soon we will realize that there is no negotiation with the Turk. Syria still remembers the Crusade and the blood of the Crusader on their blade, but soon the West will remember too, and at the Gates of Vienna we shall have another rebuff. We shall push you devils from Europe. Christendom will restore the light of progress to the Near East and you will be forgotten totally, a footnote of history. A backwards moron who read the drivel of an insane camel merchant who liked to screw little boys and girls.
>>55677839
This pretty much. It's the only major religion still actively spreading unhappiness. The problem is that religious nuts are not self aware.
>>55669034
Our leaders, they're cowards, and they can't even call these people Muslim.
>>55669034
V4 and Orban for provoking muslims.
>>55692019
I claimed Tito did mixing, but not multikult. And it was policy taken from before and copied from west. Yugoslavism is based on Bismarcks German unification. If anything its based in feudalism, where monarch strived for greater united population. Or you would call Bismarc and Hitler multikulti?
It had its good and bad sides, but it wasnt worse then before. You can only compare this stuff in timeline to previous condition, and there I think SFRJ was quite good.
i advocate monocultural Slovenia, but would preffer confederation with other Yugos and V4 over EU.
>>55692237
>Christianity and Judaism are brother religions
who could be behind this post?
>>55669034
Fucking stupid ass religion.
>>55682441
Atheism: religion of hypocrisy
>>55669127
fucking this
every last jew on this planet needs to fucking go
>>55693459
>I claimed Tito did mixing, but not multikult.
Same shit. In both cases you genocide an ethnicity out of existence - which is what Yugoslavia was all about. It was about destroying individual countries and creating one Yugoslavian ethnicity.
Given the size of Slovenia, we'd simply be dead and gone, contributing almost nothing to the new ethnicity.
Yugoslavia's main goal was literally the extinction of ethnic Slovenes, they just didn't see it that way. Couple that with them mass murdering Slovenes.
>>55693459
>It had its good and bad sides, but it wasnt worse then before
Yeah, for lazy incompetent bootlickers that would never get a job if the requisite was ONLY to make an actual contribution.
>And it was policy taken from before and copied from west. Yugoslavism is based on Bismarcks German unification. If anything its based in feudalism, where monarch strived for greater united population. Or you would call Bismarc and Hitler multikulti?
Yes, I do. They tried to make all those people one larger ethnicity, too.
>>55693459
>i advocate monocultural Slovenia, but would preffer confederation with other Yugos and V4 over EU.
That's not where the money is. If we can be mono-cultural, but connected, it's better we do it with countries like Germany, UK and Norway.
Better yet, let's do it with all countries.
Just because we're in a union with west why not also be in union with east and some balkans.
>>55682441
>Guilt
But the whole point of Christianity is that you can be cleansed of your sins. You're not meant to feel guilty if you make ammends
>>55694366
Atheists believe nothing. How can we be hypocrites?
>>55694602
Yes, you believe in nothing. Not even your own culture. If western Europe were still christian such a thing would have never happened.
>>55694583
It's a manufactured desire.
Without guilt, who needs Christianity?
So what does Christianity do? Produce guilt and it's in business.
That's what I meant.
>>55694708
I don't think you need to be religious to feel guilt over a wrongdoing. Maybe soulless Atheists don't understand things like common decency.
>>55694697
>Not even your own culture.
That's nothing to do with atheism. An atheist can be anything. Theists can be anything, too. There's a lot of different theists there. Christians, Muslims, deists, etc.
Aren't Czech and Estonians proud of their culture?
>>55694859
Atheists feel guilt, too. But Christianity is built around it.
It's not the same.
Eg. an atheist can have sex without guilt. Christians would have more difficulty there, especially catholics.
>>55694955
Is there a problem with this? Promiscuity is doing massive damage to western society. Or are you a man who shops for his women second hand?
>>55694867
>Aren't Czech and Estonians proud of their culture?
And they would be sucking leftist polish cock if Poland were left. Thankfully, they have a christian spine.
>>55675446
why the fuck is israel still there
>>55695092
>Promiscuity is doing massive damage to western society.
Well there are some ideas that Christianity introduced that aren't half bad, namely monogamy.
Why package that with a god who impregnated his own mother?
>>55695116
You don't know that. Japan is pretty atheist and nationalist, too.
>>55669420
>6 attacks
>cops run to the first one
>>55695271
If you take away the values and put nothing back then you're nothing but a parasite.
>>55695398
You can't leech an ideology.
Why the fuck do people have feeling for ideas?
That's retarded.
>>55694548
>Same shit.
On other hand greater group was necessary for survival in those times when numbers mattered. Which policy and ideology is the best depends on circumstances.
>Muh money
Fuck you, thats the reason for most shitskins in first place
>>55695628
>On other hand greater group was necessary for survival in those times when numbers mattered.
Can't we have a military alliance of monocultural countries?
What's wrong with that?
>>55695628
>Fuck you, thats the reason for most shitskins in first place
If you ban money, you'll just replace it with point or something, which is the same thing in practice.
Better optimize what we have.
>>55695339
>Japan is pretty atheist and nationalist, too.
Get a load of this goy. Applying the term atheist to a country that didn't even have the term religion before westeners showed up. I'm sorry to tell you but not all cultures can be understood through a european lense. Especially not one whose faith is not displayed by personal belief, but rather by traditionalism and ritualism.
>>55695912
>If you ban money, you'll just replace it with points or something
>>55695138
heh, fuck you and your useless apeshit country.
>>55695912
They turn to shit sooner and are less reliable. But it depends on conditions.
You again are making up shit claims. I dont advocate banning money, but policies should not be focused only or even primary on finances.
>>55695927
You're STILL saying it's possible to be an atheist and nationalist, even if it's through a certain mentality.
Why wouldn't Czech and Estonians be able to have that?
And why can't we invent that now?
Atheist monoculturalist and proud!
There, now I'm a living proof you don't need religion nor political ideology for this... at least until some Muslim or commie kills me for this.
>>55696316
I disagree on everything you said.
The two of us can't possibly live in the same country and both be happy.
>>55696232
why the fuck is israel still there
>>55669127
Almost perfect!
>>55671069
>Implying 9/11 was an Arab job, and not an inside job.
>>Shill. Shut the fuck up.
>>55696328
I used to be an atheist, but then I studied the perspective/angle that Hitler and Mussolini took to religion.
Atheism, championed by karl marx and thus karl marx having a large influence in atheist movements, due to communism being the largest atheistic movement- Atheism thus became tainted by Internationalism/anti-nationalism . Touched by the destroyer of nations.
To explain further, Atheism simply seeks to destroy religion.
It does not intend to phase out religion, and replace with it something As noble and guiding to the people to provide them with a higher sense of purpose and community.
This MUST be rejected, atheism.
Religion, and its inherent internationalist properties- must be replaced not destroyed.
Religion teaches and maintains many noble and anti-degenerate cultures/perspectives and is also a supreme source of community within a people.
These good aspects must be maintained.
The National Socialist state did this best, in its attempts. To replace obedience to a god with obedience and subordination to the state and Leader- with the higher purpose/goal of securing the future of your people and nation.
Real things, real goals.
>>55684348
4chan troll posting obviously.
>>55671419
>we
you're a dumb civvie posting on 4chan desu senpai
>>55672268
>you will find nothing is unexpected to us in what is happening in the world and how we are the scape goats.
I fucking love this. This has got to be the clearest admission of a shitskin saying "yes we know the world hates us because we are violent barbaric cunts who deserve to be hated, we aren't surprised"
Well, well done, yes. You are part of a religion that knowingly acts like THE stupidest and most barbaric cunts on the planet just so you can claim victim status and act all prophetic when the world points the finger and calls you a cunt.
Fuck off Ahmed, your attempts at sounding wise don't impress me at all, doubt they'd impress any deity either you smelly goat fucker.
Barack "Hussein" Obama.
>>55696328
Nigger, you are the reason why european culture has become weak. Weak societal bonds, no coherence because everyone is such a nice 'individual', and the worst of all: atheists are the ones who attack Christians the most because of their traditionalist views and fight with tooth and nails to force them out of public life, because 'religion is a private thing', misunderstanding the fact that Christianity being predominant in the public as the same as a violation of the freedom of religion. Why don't you fight against Christmas?
https://ia801500.us.archive.org/6/items/EnglishFrance/EnglishFrance.mp3
ISIS STATEMENT IN ENGLISH
ISIS STATEMENT IN ENGLISH
ISIS STATEMENT IN ENGLISH
>>55696431
I know.
>>55697860
Oh, look. A gun again. Commie="if you don't agree with me stealing everything from you without contributing to society in my violent pyramid scheme, I will kill you."
>>55697860
>They turn to shit sooner and are less reliable.
Says who? And as if commies countries don't turn to shit.
Besides, you've already started promoting multiculti now.
>You again are making up shit claims.
That's you. That's why you constantly contradict yourself and I have to talk to you for a long time until you admit that you lied to uphold your illogical belief system.
>I dont advocate banning money, but policies should not be focused only or even primary on finances.
... Okay, mr. know it all. Why would that be a good guideline?
(fucking retard, you're literally making or remembering commie shit up as you go)
>>55698477
Did i trigger you? Stupid fag getting triggered at Pepe pic, GTFO to reddit. There is no guilt in victory and it make me sick seeing people feel guilty for it (yes i mean you euroc.ucks).
And Im not a commie, Im nihilist and pragmatic. I dont care about ideology, I advocate solutions I see good for me in certain time, no matter which ideology they belong to. Those solutions can change over time depending on circumstances. Ideology and religion is just a mean to control stupid sheep to get what you want
Anyway. I argued two commies, here.
Both of which denied very strongly that commies are multiculti, than they admitted that Tito was multiculti, now you're promoting multiculti.
You guys also denied that commies kill people than you admitted they do it and than even admitted you feel no guilt and should not feel guilt when killing people for communism.
You even admitted that stealing is okay if done for communism.
>>55697328
>To explain further, Atheism
i am without god there for i am an atheist which is what atheism actually says, without god. you cant blame all people who are without a god that they want to destroy religions. i dont promote religion but i dont condone it. you live your life and i live mine. i also support nationalism btw.
do you know that hitler used religion as just another means to win over the people?
>>55699055
Phaha you proved nothing faggot. You braindead slime just ignore posts where you are explained wrong. I have no belief sistem, but belive means should be used according to situation. I cant contradict myself.
Here neolib shitbrain:
>Import cheap workforce
>make money but make cultural sudoku too
>>55699024
>Did i trigger you? Stupid fag getting triggered at Pepe pic, GTFO to reddit.
Triggered? You commies actually are murderers. You murdered way more people than Nazis for completely petty reasons.
I wasn't triggered, I know that commies are violent mass murdering thieves and I completely believe with everything I am that you might actually have killed someone in the name of communism or are capable of doing it.
Communists really are like that. I'm not just saying it as an insult or to provoke you to say stuff. I actually believe communists are murderers.
>There is no guilt in victory
There you go again. You've completely let go of why you're "fighting", you just want to kill people and declare victory. Commie.
>>55699024
>And Im not a commie, Im nihilist and pragmatic.
Forgive me if I don't believe you after the two of you have been backtracking for so long admitting stuff over and over again.
> I dont care about ideology
Your obsessive defense of communism says something else.
> I advocate solutions I see good for me in certain time, no matter which ideology they belong to
You mean like communism when you're lazy and think if you get in line first and your side wins, you'll get to sit on other people's work?
>Those solutions can change over time depending on circumstances.
You mean if the people rebel against the tyranny of communism and you don't want to get caught trying to steal from them?
>Ideology and religion is just a mean to control stupid sheep to get what you want
What I said above.
Communism after all is capitalism with 100% monopoly with communists instead of those that contributed to society owning everything.
You being a thief and a murderer is completely consistent with communism.
>>55699428
>>55699428
>You braindead slime just ignore posts where you are explained wrong
Oh, yeah? Give me an example. I can give you an example where you contradicted each other easily.
>I have no belief sistem, but belive means should be used according to situation.
That's not what communism is and individual companies are better at it than a centralized government.
>>55677839
>>55692318
Nope.
Satan has always been pro-humanity and against religious establishments.
>>55699114
>you live your life and I live mine
There is a problem with this statement, in that it sounds individualist. American infected perspective.
It is important to note , that in the truest ethnic nationalist nations such as national socialist Germany- individualism is an enemy, an opposition, akin to degeneracy.
Just to properly explain that the tolerance of religion in the fascist/national socialist state, is simply the transitional period in which attempts to salvage and champion the noble and anti-degenerate aspects of religion takes place, and the dismantling of the religion itself to be replaced with subordination to the state and leader and its purpose- is established.
>>55699699
Satan doesn't exist.
