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Thoughts, /pol/? Brings up a fair argument, but my instinct
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Thoughts, /pol/?

Brings up a fair argument, but my instinct is to think this is bullshit. Maybe a smarter person can explain it to me.
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Refugees went to Jordan, Turkey and other surrounding countries.
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>>55638377
How'd they get there? Surely they didn't come with the refugees. A metaphorical wolf in sheep's clothing if you will.
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>>55638377
just got home from work, can someone spoon feed me the tldr?
thank you kindly
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>>55638377

>their country breaks out in war
>cowards flee and bring it with them
>bu-but don't be mad at them
>THEY DINDU NUFFIN
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1. Not all recent immigrants are Syrian/Iraqi refugees.
2. The question of immigrants wellbeing should be second to the wellbeing of the nations to which they immigrate.
3. Though it has yet to be seen, it's most likely that the attackers came posing as refugees, as ISIS said they would.
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>>55638612

this t.b.h.
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>>55638377
its not that simple, these refugees should stay in their country so they can improve the situation rather than leaving and shitting up their country AND another country
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>>55638610

About 6 hours ago, mudslime terrorists in France killed north of 160 people in 7 coordinated attacks.
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great, now there's nowhere to run

THANKS LIBERALS
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>>55638377
Guess they did a bad job fleeing then seeing their opressors followed them strait to Europe
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>>55638377
show him the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
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>>55638610
>2 terrorists vs 1000 frenchmen
>terrorists win
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>>55638377
Paris is not a first-entry country. What they're running away from are their economical situation. (i.e. they don't live in states that hand them money and resources like it's fucking nothing)
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It was actually white racist men. Refugees are poor beautiful souls, and none of them are terrorists in disguise
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>>55638377
They stopped being refugees the moment they left the nearest country that wasn't at war, with would be Turkey and Jordan. They're economic migrants.
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>>55638377
man those terrorists seem to move around the world as they please
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>>55638377
Refugees are running from assad
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>>55638377
Why are there hardly any women and children fleeing then? Clearly they'd be in a much more vulnerable situation.
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Explain to me how an IS controlled state doesn't have control of its own borders.
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>>55638529
underrated
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>>55638610
paris has been turned into a war zone. simultaneous coordinated terrorist attacks across the city. suicide bombers at a soccer game that the french prez was at, firefights in the middle of the city near the louvre, hostage situation at a concert with over 100 dead. 140 dead in all.
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>>55638377
At least two attackers were refugees themselves, recruited by ISIS.
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>>55638377
Island life with a secretly racist govt feels so sweet right now - you jealous continentals
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>>55638377
They didn't go after refugees

Why aren't they running in the other direction? Why is that an argument against any kind of border control?
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>>55638842

Why didn't they leave in the past 4 years?
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>>55638612
>>55638699
First time on /pol/, is this really considered an argument here?
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>>55638705
>>55638759
fugg...
I LOVE YOU WINTER CHAN
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It's a false flag by paid CIA operatives (formerly Bin Laden) to create an atmosphere of fear and terror in order to provide moral high ground in occupying the middle east and reducing refugee intake... duh!
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>>55638842
hahahahahahahah I guess Germans do have a sense of humour after all
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>>55639135
Why not? You invite random strangers into your home as well?
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>>55638377
If you knew you could prevent a great disaster by not allowing in hundreds of thousands seeking shelter in your country, would you do it?

How will you be able to tell who is a terrorist and who isn't?

Not all muslims are terrorist, but most of the terrorists are.
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>>55638377
Refugees aren't running from anything. They're running towards free accommodation and hospitality at the cost of nothing. All they want is a free ride.

And besides, ISIS themselves fucking announced that they had sent thousands of their own members into the horde of refugees. So yes, if this attack was carried out by those said members, the refugees are indeed to blame.
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He's right, partially.
Most of the refugees are running from those monsters. However that doesn't mean the refugees are all nice people. World isn't only black'n white ya know?
There are reasons to be against the refugees, but these terrorist attacks are none. IS wants to arouse hatred, don't give them what they want.
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>>55638529
...and are going there for the same reason they are going to Europe. I really don't see the point of your argument
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>>55639135

Why haven't YOU opened YOUR house to several dozen refugees? Check your privilege, Portugal.
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>>55638377
Many of the "refugees" ARE Islamic terrorists or support them, according to an actual survey.

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/13-percent-syrian-refugees-support-isis-poll

I guess this is where the Paris attackers came from.
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>>55638834
i sometimes wish I was a terrorists to get to travel the world so easily

>be me
>top10% of my uni in physics
>literal genius, have awards and papers and shit
>can't travel anywhere
>visas are hard as fuck, have to work in turkey

>be some bumfuck refugee/terrorists
>gets to travel anywhere in the world
>no need for visas

The west's immigration regime is retarded.
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>>55639135
Actually one of the better arguments here desu. This place is a massive echo chamber, leave if you are expecting real arguments and thought out discussions
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>>55639340
No they aren't. They're going to Turkey and Jordan to escape the war, they're going to Europe for benefits.
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>>55639243
Are you serious? That's exactly what happened in Syria, did they invite ISIS?
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>>55638757

Ah shit
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>>55638377
Untrue, this is the people they are running away from
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>>55638377

>they're running to Europe to get away from extremists!
>extremist attacks in Europe all of a sudden much to everybody's great surprise become more common
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>>55638377
These are the same refugees that go on hunger strikes and demand 3 course gourmet meals when given food not to their liking.

These are also the refugees that demand to be taken to places with superior welfare (i.e. Germany) for maximum gibs so they can sit on their assess for the rest of their lives while the average Euro slaves to fund their easy lifestyles.

Sure, they're fleeing warzones, but they offer absolutely nothing of value within their host countries.They breed like rabbits and will present their children into a world where their entire environment revolves around entitlements and free welfare with very little incentives to actually work.
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>>55639653
LEL
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Why are you asking /pol/
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Have the identities of the terrorists been released yet? If it's French-Algerians or something, which wouldn't be surprising, than it's a fair point.
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>>55639653
Not shit argument really.
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>>55639709
>>extremist attacks in Europe all of a sudden much to everybody's great surprise become more common

there were tons of terrorists attacks before the refugee crisis though
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>>55638377
IS is not the first violent Islamic organisation. The problem is Muslims at the core.

Yes these people are running away from a sinking ship. And once they get on our nice, clean, seafaring ship, their first action is to start drilling holes in the fucking hull.

If someone wants to eat some bacon and spit on a Quaran, leave Islam behind and come to Europe for a better life, I'm okay with that. If someone wants to come here with their shit ideology that ruined there country because their country is ruined because of their shit ideology, then I want them to fuck off and stay fucked off.
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>>55639551
No anon. They are the isis you retard.
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>>55639850
their* sorry, it's late.
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>>55638377
Uh... No? Or yes, but mostly no. Of the Syrian refugees, who make up less than half of the claimed total, we can assume about 1/4th are lying.

Of the remaining 3/4ths, 38%, about 70% are adult men, and about half of the lone migrant children, are in reality also adult men.

These men migrate due to:

>A: Economic incentives
The men are expected to get the dolla dolla bills yall for the whole family

and

>B: Draft dodging
Men are more likely to be sent to the front (duh)

So to conclude: most of the refugees aren't even Syrians. Most of those who are, are grown men migrating for wealth or fleeing from the Assad regime forcing them to fight. Let's say that around 15% of the refugees flee from Jihadists in Syria and Iraq. Hence, it is an extremely costly way to help these people to start the mass migration baiting. Military support and helping the refugees near Syria is a wiser strategy.
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>>55639162
>from iceland to scotland
>literally just a few little islands and some open sea

th-thanks winter chan?
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>>55638529
Refeguees arent in jordan
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>>55638377
I don't see them gunning down refugees.
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>>55638377
>Brings up a fair argument

No he doesn't, if the "refugees" (migrants) were running from ISIS they would stay in the first safe country not try to illegally enter Europe
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>>55639313
No, they want to arouse fear and inspire obsequiousness.

Then again, since you're in Germany, you're probably one of them, so you're probably just trying to serve your own interests.
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>>55638377
>With open gets gets shut down
>then the attacks happen
Seems like us goy are getting too unruly and the masters wanted to punish us but that's just going to backfire on them
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>>55639922
you're a very special child aren't you
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DAILY REMINDER THAT THE CIA WILL PUSH DIFFERENT NARRATIVES ON DIFFERENT PLACES:

ON /POL/ THEY WILL TRY TO BLAME MUSLIMS IN GENERAL, TO SHIFT BLAME FROM ANGLO-ZIONIST CREATED IMPERIALISM IN THE MIDDLE EAST (WHICH INCLUDES WHITE GENOCIDE AS A LONG-TERM PLAN), TO ''EVIL MUSLIMS''

IN THE ESTABLISHMENT MEDIA, TV AND RADIO, THEY WILL INSTEAD FOCUS ON: ''MUSLIMS DIDN'T DO IT, STOP BLAMING THEM!''

THE OBJECTIVE IS TO SHIFT ATTENTION FROM THE ANGLO-ZIONISTS, TO A SHITSTORM OF ''MUSLIMS DID IT!'' AND ''NO, MUSLIMS DIDN'T DO IT!''

DO NOT FALL FOR THEIR TRICKS
DO NOT FALL FOR THEIR LIES
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>>55639653
Ironically, the white guy who did it was ALONE, but the muslims who did it had friends with them.
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>>55640151
>Sweden
>defending mudslimes
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>>55638377

These terrorists were in the pack of "refugees" to begin with.
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>>55640108
Run of arguments? Time for ad hominem
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>>55640151
>SWEDEN
>YES
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>>55638377
This is so frustrating, I just wish people would articulate that the problem isn't that the majority of refugees want to launch terrorist attacks, as I'm confident that's not true (although the refugees present other problems) but the fact that the flood of refugees has resulted in a lack of an immigration process, allowing ISIS to easily smuggle fighters into Europe.

As a result, it doesn't matter that the refugees are mostly peaceful, the fact is extremists do exist and the exodus of people is allowing them to waltz into Europe unchecked

If even 0.5% of the refugees are extremists, then it is a serious problem.
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>>55640374
Most likely just like in all the other terrorist attacks the perpetrators were most likely born and bred French second or third generation immigrants.

And that makes it even a bigger problem.
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>>55638377
Maybe those cowards should stay and fight.
My ancestors didn't run from the savages, they killed them.
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>refugees come to western countries
>refuse to assimilate
>become disollusioned with the west and its culture
>become convinced the west is bad
>turn into religious extremists
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>>55638377
>Brings up a fair argument,

Its not. There's very few refugees coming to Europe. The word is immigrant. They are almost exclusively young men of an age and build fit for serving in the military who decided to abandon their families and country in their time of need, so they could get welfarebucks.

Muslims are this way everywhere.
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>>55638377

Most of them aren't even from Syria you fucktard.
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>>55640108
It's pretty clear that most of the people in ISIS are from Syria and Iraq. You can't really argue against that so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here by comparing mass immigration and a civil war.
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>>55640732
well it is in the name of the organization

syria and iraq
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>>55638377
they're bringing their problems to us to fix. This is their societies problem, and it's theirs to fix. Until they do we should bar them from our society.
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>>55639486
nigger how is this terrorist attack not tied in with the immigration crisis, especially considering the number of muslims who are radicals. Sure they may want to leave their home country for asylum, but that pushing the definition of refugee when they're going at least 5 countries away taking their counterculture beliefs with them.

the Muslims bring an ideological and cultural conflict to the people of Europe, and all the politicians are doing are supporting the now hundreds of victims victims ignoring the real issue.

how many attacks are enough for europe to realize that the Muslims are the problem not the terrorists.

go fuck yourself, there are tons of well thought out arguments here. you just insult the argument because you dont have one of your own
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>>55638377
Well no fucking shit the refugees and the terrorists move as one - "refugee" is just a temporary camouflage for any jihadist wanting to blow shit up. Anyone claiming that refugees and terrorists are different is retarded, because you can be sure as shit that some of the aloha snackbars entered the country as a refugee in the first place.

The whole prospect of taking in hundreds of thousands of people with little to no scrutiny in the first place caused this and will continue to cause this. This is the price you pay for mass immigration from a 3rd world country to a 1st world.

This won't be the last terrorist attack, either. I wouldn't be surprised if Germany got shit on by the end of the month.
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>>55640151
S W E D E N Y E S
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>>55640592
lol
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>>55638377
If they're against them the mud community should out them and report to authorities. In reality though all mudslimes are happy to see ISIS, will never criticize these terrorists and are quietly fapping to ISIS videos.
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>>55638377
He's right about the refugees running away from ISIS but if europe hadn't flung the doors open and let the refugees in, the terrorists wouldn't have got in either.
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>>55639391
Top 10% in your degree at your university is not "literal genius," anon. That would make 1 in 10 of your coursemates geniuses too. Everyone has "papers and shit" considering writing papers is a normal graded activity.

You probably can't get a visa because you have no work history and no postgrad credentials.
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>>55638377
There will be terrorist attacks committed by the recently arrived refugees within the next 12 months.

Screencap this post, then put it in a special folder on the side of your computer and soon enough, you will witness.
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>>55639850
Exactly. They bring with them what they were fleeing from.
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>>55641410
Mate that's like saying I am going to jerk off today.

It's an inevitable event that no one should be surprised about.
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>>55640732
What are you talking about, did I ever argue that ISIS is mostly Syrians or Iraqis? You got it the other way around, the Singaporean guy said that Syrians are the ISIS, not that ISIS is mostly Syrians.
Where did I compare mass imigration with a civil war?

What I'm saying is that blaming refugees for being cowards and not staying in their country taking care of their problems and then driving them away from our world because we had nothing to do with it in the first place is a contradiction. What's happening with the refugees in Europe happened with ISIS in Syria and Iraq. We didn't invite the refugees here like they didn't invite ISIS to Syria and Iraq, the rise of ISIS happened because of an unrelated civil war.
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>>55639167
oh, hey Mr. Gribble
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>>55639135
How is it not an argument? If you let people indiscriminately into your country, you're bound to invite bad people unknowingly as well.
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>>55641646
>We didn't invite the refugees here
Top laughs
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>>55638377
They're absolutely right, but goodluck getting anyone on this shithole website to be rational.
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>>55639391
If you were that smart, you would've found a way to travel.
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>>55639340
>...and are going there for the same reason they are going to Europe.
Confirmed for being a fucking retard. The refugees in Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, etc are all still refugees, living in refugee camps. The refugees going to Europe are not refugees. They get settled as immigrants.

The former is a person escaping a conflict zone to go home at a later date.
The latter is a person who abandons his country with the excuse of leaving a conflict zone in order to get settled in a different country. Not that most of them are from Syria, anyway.
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>>55638377
>is a literal retard
>feels empowered after being called out
i fucking hate niggers and women
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>>55641994
Eat shit you muzzie faggot nigger.
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So...what are your serious predictions for what will happen? Is this the boiling point? Will there be huge protests by native French people? A massive red-pilling?
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>>55641994
>They're absolutely right, and it's completely impossible for a slew of terrorists to disguise themselves as refugees in order to gain access to our nation. Also I'm fucking retarded.

This is your post.
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Just came home from the pub. "This is nothing compared to what the American drone strikes causes in the ME." Please, can I move to another country? I loathe my country"men."
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yes, and now they've brought them here, along with their self entitled nature.
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>>55639813
It really is...
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>>55642352
Christ, your country is going to kek itself right into the grave.
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>>55638377
>terrorists are just created in a vacuum
>cultural values and other eccentrics have nothing to do with it
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If they are running away from their land to france to escape terrorists, the why the fuck are the terrorists also in France now? Wouldn't it be more likely that a group of extremists were with the groups of people who were hiding from extremists?
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>>55638377

I blame refugees for bringing their problem with them. It's like harboring Jews during WWII
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>>55642352
SWEDEN YES
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its simple fallout 4 takes precedence
after that long enough time will have passed so we will know what really happened
remove kebab
???
remove everything
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iraqis talking & laughing about attacks
https://static.ylilauta.org/files/il/orig/6f8xw8ji/yaserabass85.png

FaBo com/groups/yaserabass85/permalink/937084246420109/
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What does /pol/ think of this? It's spreading around facebook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvOnXh3NN9w
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>>55642502
Entire europe is,this war is not as far away as the politics think.
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>>55642502
I'm not even joking. They literally asked why they should care avout this when "no one cares about the latest Beirut bombings." Please, Hungary, let me in. I'll fight for the european identity
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>>55639340
Most of European refugees aren't actually refugees.
They're coming from Africa and other countries that aren't Syria.
Also those refugees who are actually refugees lost their refugee once they cross the border of the first country they end up in and just become economic migrants.
Stop being so stupid.
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>>55638377
the refugees are running from russia and assad, because the refugees ARE ISIS
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>>55639162
iceland doesn't have fjords, it has valleys and glaciers. fjords are scandinavian.
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Fuck these people.
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>>55640151
underrated post.
Mudslimes are just a tools, which of course should be eradicated, but the root of the problem lies way deeper.
The Unholy Trinity :
- Bankers
- Leftists
- Zionists
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>>55638377
But the so called refugees are the terrorists.
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>>55642980
These nigs are too damn kawaii
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>>55639391
pro tip being smart in turkey is not meaningful in the civilized world. its like being the tallest midget, real people are still gonna find you short
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>>55639167
Fuck off Lahey
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>>55638757
funny how jewtube froze the view count, it's probably been watched like 500000 times today
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>>55639313
>IS wants to arouse hatred, don't give them what they want.

Will you please fuck off with this whole "If you hate refugees, the terrorists win!" meme?
IS didn't commit these attacks with some shadowy grand-strategic double-bluff media-manipulation plan in mind.
Muslims kill Westerners because Westerners are infidels. That's it. Plain and simple. They are motivated by religious hatred.
And it's only when you hate them back that you can win, because hatred drives the hard action needed to chase these mongrels back to their desert wastelands.

It's not fucking rocket science, Hans.

(Source: I am a rocket scientist)
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you didn't provide them with playstations or pretty gfs

what did you expect them to do with all their free time?
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>>55642352
There's no other country to move to

>western civilization is doomed to another dark age
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>>55639653

Yeah and once is more than enough. We don't need to be importing that shit from Backwardistan.
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>>55638985
Sicily ftw
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>>55638377
>these are the people the refugees are running from
...and yet apparently they come in alongside said refugees without difficulties because we don't care who we let in so why are we taking the refugees again?
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>>55638377
A) There not running from terrorists, they're running from (implying) a war between an American back terrorist group and Assad/Russia

B) Most of them aren't running from conflict. Most of them are running towards free shit

C) Most of them support Sharia law. If they were white you would criticize them for their social beliefs, but because they're brown that's entohlerhant
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>>55639933
this
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>>55638377
Yeah they run away from the shithole they created, just to fuck up other countries, because that's all they can do.
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>>55643078
>underrated post
Is there any logical reason why you would fucking say that post is underrated? Has anybody expressed any kind of dissatisfaction or criticism at all against it? Are you delusional? Are you reading replies that are nonexistant? Maybe you come from communities with voting systems, but there is literally no way that you could know what other people think of that post you just replied to here. Maybe it's psychological. Maybe it's your own post you're replying to, like a 12 year old fucktard liking his own facebook posts thinking his swelling autism is going unnoticed. Maybe your self esteem depends on you tricking yourself into thinking someone out there thinks your post is worth something. Or maybe you are just a retard, the worst kind of retard, the one who thinks he's smart, the one who thinks he's the only one to have gotten the joke, to have understood the post. Well, guess what, faggot, that post is under no definition underrated so why don't you do the world a favor and go check out what the bottom of your toilet smells like?
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>>55640151
the argument worth putting forth is keeping muslims in muslim lands and not in europe
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>>55638377
do you not realize that all the illegal immigrants pouring into the US are the same people the legal immigrants are trying to get away from?
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>>55644002
underrated post
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>>55638377
>terrorists attack mudskins
>mudskins try to run away to other countries
>terrorists follow mudskins and attack them there
I can definitely see the logic in why people would blame them
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>>55640151
overrated post.
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>>55642880
>google beirut bombings
>first result is some 40 odd people killed by jihadists
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>>55638377
#itsislamidiot Spread it around.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ItsIslamIdiot?src=hash
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>>55638377
People in the refugee camps that got torched were apparently leaving the camps (uploaded yesterday) because they feared ISIS. Is it a coincidence that their camps burned down after this happened in Paris?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkX3Z7lQt-E
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>>55638377
Then why didn't these poor, able bodied, soldier aged "refugees" bring their wives, children and elderly if they were escaping?

And why are they not seeking refuge in other Muslim countries, to be more culturally compatible. Why come to Germany and expect a halal meal?
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If ever I felt there was a time I should put my hacking skills to use it's with these fuckers in college trying to take away from this incident in the name of their racial propaganda
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>>55644002

overrated post
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>>55638699
lol. hey fellow canada fag, your ancestors should have stayed in their fucking nations instead of shitting up north america because it was better from where they were from originally, oh wai-

(statement retracted if you are first nations)
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>>55644002
bottom of a toilet isn't going to smell like anything for 2 reasons

1 it's covered in water and smell won't travel through water
2 toilet bowls are non-porous so fecal matter rarely sticks around for long, if you have discoloration it is likely due to minerals from the water
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>>55640108

You honestly think there are no syrians in ISIS?
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>>55640151
STRATEGY OF TENSION
STRATEGY OF TENSION
STRATEGY OF TENSION
STRATEGY OF TENSION
STRATEGY OF TENSION
STRATEGY OF TENSION
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>>55638377
ISIS infiltrated the refugee groups. It's not the refugees fault. It's horrid evil cunts like MERKEL and their open border policy that has endangered freedom loving Europeans.
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>>55644128
>people are actually THIS stupid

You think the slimes were attacking refugees? Lol
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>>55638719
well considering this is the work of 5 guys and they fled from substantially more than 5 guys maybe you're an idiot and they'd still prefer this to what they left
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So why did you let them in too?
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>>55644528
Because these are the ones that made it.
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>>55644669
Are you retarded?

You clearly don't know fucking shit about history if you're that retarded and what you just said is what you actually believe.

Go kill yourself liberal faggot
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>>55644736
>smell won't travel through water
How do sharks smell blood? Check and mate.
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>>55642738
the following claims that the video makes can either be objectively refuted or shown to be tenuous claims that d not deserve confidence:
> most of the refugees are coming from Syria
wrong, it should be easy to find reports from the EU themselves finding that of refugees crossing the Mediterranean, only 30% are Syrians.
>actually refuges commit less crime
no evidence was given for this claim whatsoever. Why is this claimed? the Gatestone institute has compiled local police reports and local newspapers I germany to list over a thousand rapes by recent immigrants in over a few summer months. Also Norway: in oslo, 100% of assault rapes, rapes where the victim and the perpetrator did not know each other, were committed by foreign immigrants. this police report was widely publicised and should be easy to find. another possible counter example: the rising crime rate in malmo.
>Syrian refugees will be economically productive
this can be disproved by a study done by Denmark which found that immigration from European nations was a net benefit to the economy, while immigration from outside of Europe has overall been a net burden to the economy, and Denmark's stricter immigration laws put into place have actually saved the government 6-7 billion
>Syrians have a low birth rate
can easily be refuted by pointing out again that Syrians are a only 30% of the 'refugees', and the other refugees come from African countries (very high birth rates), Pakistan (very high birth rates) and Iraq (higher than native European birth rates).

Also:
easy to point out that to prevent people drwning the most effective thing is stop encouraging them to cross Mediterranean in inflatable toy boats by removing the reward of offering them homes in Europe, and aslo patrol the coast and intercet then escort back any refugees.

>most Syrians are educated
I think simply searching "Syrian education" system will reveal that hteir illiteracy rate is many times higher than that of Europe
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Be sure to thank Germany for letting all of these fine people into Europe unchecked. I already feel culturally enriched!

#MerciMerkel

twitter. com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=mercimerkel
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>>55641646

So if the two situations are comparable, and when ISIS entered syria, they completely destroyed the place and made everyone's life hell.

What your saying is Europe should definitely not let any refugees in or they will destroyed the place and made everyone's life hell.
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The "refugees" are not fleeing, they're invading.
We are handing our nations to them, paying them and thanking them.
They think it's funny.
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A lot of the affluent middle and upper class Syrian refugees are those who were supporting the same regime that these people cry foul about. Now we all know Assad is the best option here on /pol/ but the mainstream discourse is how evil and terrible his regime is. Thus, you can argue to these anti-Assad types that they are effectively allowing sympathy and support for a modern day version of circa 1994 Hutus or 1945 middle and upper class Germans (Godwins law and all that) fleeing a sinking ship.

>>55639653

They can go ahead and argue that narrative - if they accept the solution they propose for our shootings (ban all guns) should be replicated here (ban all Muslims).
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>>55638818
is this some sort of distinction that only matters to assholes?
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>>55640387
run out of brain? Time for argument to logic.
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>>55639135
Nah he didn't mention any jews.
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They're the same people

/thread
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>>55638759
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TURN AND FIGHT THEM YOU FUCKING PUSSIES
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>>55638956
>near Louvre

not at all
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>>55638377
The issue is our countries tries are literally just letting middleeastern people flood our countries.

Solution us to

A. Heavily restrict who can come in

Or

B. Don't let any of them here

Also, we really need to pull the Fuck out of the middle east goddamn it.

I'm sick of paying for this shit.
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>>55639371
but we have, you dingus.

Even my hometown which is this remote-ass piece of nowhere is getting 100 of them or so. And it'll be obvious as fuck once they're here.
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>>55645030
see many sharks in toilet bowls?
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Do people think ISIS is stupid? If you think they aren't capitalizing on retarded countries bringing in "refugees" you're a moron.
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>>55639653
The only difference is, one theater was the setting of an MK ultra operation for the sole purpose of pushing gun control in America. The other was the opening shots of the invasion of Europe.
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>refugees infiltrate European nations
>30 years from now they create a new crop of extremists who don't remember how awful Islam is and start the whole thing all over again
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>>55644950
Then they need to "make it" to another shit-stained Muslim nation.
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Borders are closed now.
Will Jewropean Union ban us for this?
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>>55642352
shitty timing of them to say, but they are technically correct.
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>>55645374
Almost every day. I put baby sharks in there. They can smell the blood in my urine.
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>>55638773

i wish people would learn the difference between refugees and economic immigrants. half of these niggers aren't even from Syria.
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A refugee in Germany did an AMA on Reddit awhile back and he openly admitted it was very likely ISIS member got in.

With the vast numbers just pouring in I fear for you, my European friends.
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>>55645616
No because your borders will probably be open by Monday.
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>>55645616
I think France holds too much influence in Europe for that to happen, tbqh
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>>55643484
Take the Redpill and let them know they are no longer welcome
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>>55640151
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>>55642562
are you fucking five?

there are current atrocities in Syria right now. People are leaving.

People have also been immigrating from everywhere to everywhere else since forever, now more than ever. Some of them may grow up and skip career day and decide to be terrorists. Then they make the news.
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>>55645888
Lets say Wednesday, after the ebin REFUGEE DINDU NUFFIN conference by our beloved "president".
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>>55645157
You stop being a refugee when you've already escaped political oppression. Anyone who has left Syrian borders is no longer a refugee. These people who trek across Europe to reach Germany and France -- why didn't they settle in Turkey or Jordan? Because only Western Europe is stupid enough to take in economic migrants. It's really telling when Muslim states don't take them folks in. The rich Arab states could take all these Syrians in and house them comfortably and provide for them until they get back on their feet, but they won't -- they prefer to spend their petrodollars on skyscrapers, hotels, amusement parks, luxury vehicles, and mansions.
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>>55638377
>Maybe a smarter person can explain it to me.
Did /sci/ bully you out?
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>>55638377
>running away from a pack of hyenas
>run through a playground
>hyenas maul children

>dont blame me, i was running from the hyenas :^)
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>>55640151
You're over the top with your white genocide bullshit, but you're close to the truth.

The west created Israel, it is a foot hold for land acquisition. It was created after we defeated Nazi Germany, which war efforts collapsed after it began to run out of oil. Quite simply we the opportunistic west, take advantage of 'bad guys' like Assad, and destabilize the middle east so land can be easily divided and conquered. Its all just economics.

What we're doing to syria, is the same as what we did to Iraq, and the people actually can't see time repeating itself.
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>>55642637
yeah I totally bet that it's just an internal problem from nations that produce refugees and absolutely has nothing to do with the West really. After all when was the last time any Western nation invaded a middle eastern country?

Fuck you're dense
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>>55643484
Exactly.

Here, take a look at what happened after Lee Rigby's murder.

http://pastebin.com/Jb2wb9eM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34369710

They only understand violence, they will only stop when you start attacking them back.
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>>55638377

Yeah and? The attackers followed them here, in that case.
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>>55638377
To people who want loose borders. Do you not realize tighter border control helps keep out the people the refugees are trying to run away from
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>>55639653
Isn't this the guy who pretended to be black?
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>>55646258
but that makes perfect sense.

>you're running away for your life
>but I'll still blame you for decisions you made in a split second
???
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>>55644776
>Family is from Syria
>They've been periodically leaving Syria for decades because of muslims
>All move to other countries legally and get jobs and go to school
There are muslims in Syria, so there is ISIS in Syria. Anyone who tells you "Islam isn't a religion of violence that promotes that stuff!" is full of shit. I have first-hand accounts that aren't delivered through Jew controlled media and talk to family members about it.
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>>55640151
Post more please..
You dont realise how important you are
we need more support for this cause
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>>55646067
>People have also been immigrating from everywhere to everywhere else since forever

and non-white people are unable to build a proper society since forever
and the kikes are trying to eradicate the white race since forever.
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>>55646408
>captaining a ship
>run aground off the coast of Italy
>escape the boat so you dont drown
>get prosecuted and thrown in jail

>dont blame me, I was trying to get off the boat too :^)
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They bring their SHIT culture and SHIT religion with them, THEY ARE AN INFECTION
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>>55646125
If France gets kicked out of the EU for this, then a lot of other countries will go too once they see the opportunity. Merkal will be so pissed she'd shit a nuclear explosion out her ass, making Germany a nuclear power. So in otherwords, nothing will happen.

However, I assume also that your president won't enforce much of the practical border control, i.e. actually stopping the refugees from coming in or blocking tourists or those who have visas to enter France. He's probably doing it just to make sure he doesn't get thrown out of office now that France has gotten yet another red pill after Charlie and the supermarket incident.
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>>55638757
Maybe the "terrorists" are cia plants to get these countries to actually do something about this horrible mess.

It's like a long black serpent destroying everything in it's path in the name of cultural reform of a nation they have no business in.
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>>55638377
why do people think countries have an obligation to take anyone? I don't want to import your countries problems
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>>55646586
>being suddenly chased by hyenas and slowly being a moron who drives his own ship into the coast is the same thing
ok
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>>55638377
Why the fuck should we support cowards?
If America started getting taken over by radical blacks do you think the good Americans would run away? No
The "refugees" whether they're running young men or Isis agents are all trash
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>>55644040
right because on /pol/, mexican illegal immigrants and islamic terrorists are somehow related because refugees. first they'll take the jobs you don't want and then they'll blow you up!
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>>55638377
Reminds me of when niggers move out of ghettos to get away from niggers, but end up nigging up the new place and ruining it for everyone else.
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>>55644975
troll harder - my statement is as true as the poster I replied to, which is to say that it isn't.

does being a liberal faggot mean I'm at least creative in my shitposting? If so thanks, try harder
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>>55646753

Eat a dick retard.
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>>55638377
Europe deserves to burn.
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Important

Is Europe on average higher on sea level then the middle east?
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>>55646650
our "president" (I put commas because I don't consider him french neither president) is just trying to kill everything related to france (people, tradition, religion) as soon as possible, so of course he won't do anything that could stop the sandniggers to come here.
Maybe he will organize a great ceremony with Netanyahou and Obongo to laugh about all the dead goyim. But thats all.
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>>55647274
You saved a thumbnail and I can't make out any of that
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>>55646894
People like to scapegoat someone for a country's woes. Illegal immigrants to the US, primarily Hispanics, probably contribute a truly eligible amount of crime, but all you can hear about from Trump is "illegal immigrant rapists & murderers." The big elephant in the room is that if any ethnic group deserves widespread scrutiny are American blacks -- they commit 50% of the crime in the country and yet you can't talk about it.
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>>55638529
Guess we know who is next. Or maybe they didn't flee far enough from the terrorist
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>>55645860
yes but this is not some big recent scare.

honestly if you were afraid of terrorist attacks you wouldn't support governments that bomb and invade nations that harbour terrorists. or else you would, knowing that it increases the likelihood you will be attacked by terrorists.

I'm not saying one way or the other is better, but it's pretty fucking obvious what correlation exists here.
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Opened Jewbook for curiosity and saw this right away.

>A prayer for the innocent victims in Paris. Then the closure of borders, heavy controls on all muslim organizations in Italy, the blocking of departures and landings, aimed attacks in Syria and Lybia. Islamic terrorists and cut-throats must be ELIMINATED with force

>Shut up. You only know how to take advantage from fear. Islam isn't this. This is very bad. If you really knew what Islam was you wouldn't say this bullshit. You're a horrible human being. If you ask muslims what they think about these people they'll say they're bad. Shut up.

If not even the deaths of hundreds of people will wake up these liberal retards, which are the majority of the population, then there is really no hope left... Porco dio.
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>>55640151
SWEDEN IN CHARGE OF SHITPOSTING
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>>55638961
Proof?
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>>55638377
Then why did these people that they were running away from run with them? Why aren't there more stories of muslim refugees attacking eachother? Why aren't these terrorists also targeting the Muslims who ran away? Simple because that's not their that never was their target the refugees are just cowards and Europe keks who couldn't even believe the suggestion that isis came in when they let hoards of young muslim men into their nations

Like shit do you think the illegals of America don't come in with the narcos? Do you think they don't work together at some level? Do you think they're children don't grow up with some form of sympathy for the narcos?

This shit is common sense and is why Europe is going to keep falling
The people literally can not understand that multiculturallism doesn't work and that it is actually incredibly harmful especially when unchecked like the refugee crisis
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>>55646469
that's cool that you're racist and all, but did you have a point?
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>>55638377
He's right to be honest, family. I can bet you my sombrero this was made by French nationals, probably some butthurt Algerians but French in paper.
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>>55638377
How about you deal with them instead of being fucking cowards?
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>>55638377
So they are one in the same or fellow travelers, either is bad news.
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>>55647620
What is with this shilling in this thread?
Is this leftypol or something?
Muh innocent Muslim chillens they don did nuthin
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>>55638377

Does he not realize this is the inherent danger of opening borders wide up for thousands upon thousands of undocumented individuals to cross?

The fact that ISIS operatives were allowed to smuggle themselves in disguised as "refugees" and commit an attack of this scale should be reason enough to severely restrict, if not completely close, entry to further immigrants.

They know who to blame for losing out on their free gibsmedats.
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>>55638377
>refugees
>actually terrorists pretending to be scared victims in order to infiltrate and conquer
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>>55638377
It's fucking obvious.

Europe is currently doing NOTHING to control the borders. With zero security checks on migrants/refugees/whatever the hell you want to call them, anyone can come in. It's that simple

The best way to combat the leftist argument is to say "sure we aren't opposed to taking in a limited number of legitimate refugees, but with uncontrolled mass migration we have no way of knowing who is an extremist and who isn't."
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>>55647517
yeah I guess high crime rate is an unfair price to pay for practicing slavery for a few generations. that really sucks and I'm super sorry for all you white folks. maybe one day they'll figure it out.
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>>55647777
People haven't immigrated from everywhere since forever, maybe in Canada, who has no history, but not here.
French people descend from the Franks, Visigoths and Burgondes, and those guys didn't come from "everywhere".
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>>55638377
>muh bleeding heart
If I had a bag full of Apples and just one of those apples happened to be laced with cyanide (and I couldn't be sure which one) then I wouldn't consume a single Apple from the bag. Feels won't keep your country and her citizens safe, you enormous cock guzzling liberal faggot
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>>55639653
i hope them white christain fundamentalist trash never get their shit together
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>>55647694

I plan on moving to Italy, what states should I stay the fuck away from?
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>>55638377
they aren't running away from anything, they are running to benefits and to ensure Islams domination of Europe.
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>>55647733
various news sources reported on it. Also see >>55645966
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>>55648494

Lmao.

Funny thing is I agree with all this in the thread. Just needed some clarification. No need to be mad, champ.
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You know some of these guys which mowed down 100+ innocent people are straight sociopaths. At least a couple of them were reported to be in their early twenties. This means that when 9/11 happened they were like 8 years old.

Something happened from then until now that brought that kid up in a way where he can go into a crowded theater and calmly execute civilians.
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>>55648861
To clarify, my response was for the pic related and not directed at you personally.
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>>55648148
yeah I totally believe you when you say that since passports don't exist and travel hasn't become more difficult since forever.

Attempting to point out the causal link between immigration and terrorism is stupid because its fucking obvious. Nobody is going to stop immigrating or terrorizing because we woke up and figured out their secret.
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>>55648924
> no Russian
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>>55638377
The Koran commands muslims to kill unbelievers.
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>>55649112
Wait what? The muslims burn their documents before they arrive so they can't be returned to their countries.
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I realize it isn't ALL Muslims that are committing these atrocities, but the fact of the matter is, their culture is a breeding ground for it. The Charlie Hebdo attacks, the attempted train attacks, and now this attack in Paris? There is a reason it is happening in France: they have a shit ton of Muslims. Muslims are more likely to fall in line with the ideologies of groups like ISIS or Al-Queda, and so the truth is that, from a purely mathematical perspective, countries with more Muslims are more likely to breed these sorts of terrorist. Logically, the opposite of that must therefore be true, whereby a decrease in Muslim population decreases the chances of these sorts of events.

To summarize, math and logic dictate that a decrease in the Muslim populations of European countries would decrease homegrown terrorists.
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>>55649055

Ah ok. I think I'm going to drop some of these truth bombs on social media. I dont see how anyone can ignore the facts.
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>>55649112

What are you talking about? Europe has let in 1 million+ undocumented people in the past year. Many of them don't have passports- and the ones who aren't from Syria that have them just destroy their own passports. They are literally walking across multiple borders and no one stops them.

The causal link between terrorism and immigration hasn't even gotten going yet. But there's a logical certainty that we will see attacks in the future resulting from letting 1 million+ in without doing any screenings on them, in the name of human rights.
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>>55646390

And then stole a bunch of money from some charities.

http://gotnews.com/breaking-ferguson-activist-shaun-king-accused-stealing-tamirrice-family-ericgarner-icantbreathe/
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>>55648924

>something happened from then until now that brought that kid up in a way where he can go into a crowded theater and calmly execute civilians.

Yeah it's called being raised in the islamic faith.
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>>55638377
they aren't running away

they are running towards money

>>55649466
just because every single member of a country don't join the military, do we not conquer the entire country
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>>55647694

>If you ask muslims what they think about these people they'll say they're bad.

Yep. Because mudslimes lie.
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>>55638377
Terrorists posing as refugees most likely. But the point is that if Muslims did it why the fuck would you want more of 'em in your country and increase the risk of it happening again?
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>>55638377
The problem with this argument is that the same people calling for Europe to accept refugees also oppose any serious look into who the "refugees" are to filter out terrorists. As such, they are inviting refugees, terrorists, and anyone else who wants to come to Europe.
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>>55648711
Just don't go to near Rome or under.
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>>55639500
The Turkish and Jordanian camps are a nightmare though.
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>>55648483
okay well I have it on good authority that the world is bigger than France, so my statement holds true.

To humor you though, did you know Frenchman decided that what is now Canada, the Congo and Algiers were all at one point worth living in? That's an example that might be more relateable for you. I hear that basically all those places got shitted up in the process though, so maybe those hurt my case... oh wait.

With all seriousness my condolences to you sir or madam for what's happening in your country this evening.
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How soon till a Terrorist attack on the Vatican?
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fuck hamalahas
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>>55649611

lelz
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