Atheism ftw
>>55633957
Atheism is only a void that needs to be filled.
Theological Noncognitivist here. Sick and tired of normies (often incorrectly) paraphrasing ancient god of the gaps nonsense in order to justify whatever ulterior motive they have.
These people are the pathetic equivalent of a self help image macro.
>>55634120
Nah, whatever voids there are, filling them with angels dancing on the heads of pins is no solution.
>>55634120
>Implying the Emperor wasn't in fact himself an atheist.
"The Imperial Truth is the name given to the secular, rationalist ideology promulgated by the Emperor of Mankind during his Great Crusade to reunite all the worlds of Mankind beneath the umbrella of the newborn Imperium of Man in the late 30th Millennium... The Emperor Himself declared that Mankind would never be free to progress and advance to its destined position as the pre-eminent intelligent species in the Milky Way Galaxy until "the last stone from the last church was cast down onto the last priest.""
>>55633957
Atheism has all the same flaws as any other religion. Hitler was an atheist, so what's your defense?
>>55635407
Nice, two baits on one hook.
>>55634120
Literally this.
/thread
>>55635407
No he wasn't.
Stalin was an atheist.
Also atheist have killed more people in the 20th century than muslims have ever killed.
Prove me wrong fedora tippers.
>>55635407
Can't tell if you are trolling or not but Hitler believed in god. It's debated what his true beliefs actually were but it is very clear that he believed in an all powerful creator.
>>55633957
>Last month Atheist kills Christians in a community college in oregon.
>inb4 'Not all Athiests!'
>>55635191
>filling them with angels dancing on the heads of pins is no solution
You should really read the books.
Faith is a human quality, it will either be manifest in an ideology or religion.
There is no society in history which has successfully remained totally secular. Even liberalism is mostly powered by faith.
>>55635407
>Godwin's Law
>most atheistic country in Europe gets BTFO
>"atheism wins"
>>55635390
He was lying to keep people from falling to the Chaos Gods.
>>55633957
Agnosticism is LITERALLY the only true side to go with, you cannot prove or disprove gods existence
>>55635641
That's called agnosticism, anon, and in most religions your doubt will land you in purgatory same as any other non-believer.
>>55635390
He was an Atheist, and the Lectio Divinitatus proved that humanity wasn't ready for the secular world he created.
A well meaning dictum that only served to have the secular Emperor himself become deified.
>>55635788
This.
If france was still christian this would never have happened.
>>55633957
Does anyone else find it funny that Chrisitans generally get on better with atheists than other religious people?
>>55633957
Atheists are cowards. We need the FAITHFUL to purge the mudslimes.
DEUS VULT!!
>>55635407
>>55636062
That's just white culture m8
>>55635407
>God with us.
Sorry?
Atheism is merely a metaphysical position. It has NOTHING to say about morality. I don't see why is it so hard for some to see the distinction.
>people STILL think Agnosticism is a middle-man/mutually-exclusive
Stop parroting this nonsense, you utter imbeciles.
>>55635880
its kinda gay tho
>>55636251
at least it's honest, unlike claiming you know god does or doesn't exist
>>55635706
I actually read the good book. It turned me away from Christianity. I glimpsed the other books. Made me into a deist. Sat there on the fence for a while, but decided to drop the interpersonal nonsense when simple rational decision making got me further than "faith". I don't like soccer either, go figure. And neither do I like looking back too much on fallen or crumbling societies and emulating what always ends up leading to unnecessary conflict and downfall.
>>55636212
You faggots murdered more people in the 20th century than any other religious group. That is undeniable.
Nice no true scotsman though.
>>55635407
bad example as hitler religious stance were shaky at best
>>55633957
Nah in some ways atheism is worse
Normies go crazy on that shit
Religious experiences are a real thing that the mind craves for some unknown reason
(probably keeps you sane in moments of high stress)
>>55636251
So is assuming you have any knowledge of the universe when we can only describe like 4% of it desu senpai
>>55636409
>I actually read the good book.
I was actually talking about the Horus Heresy novels.
If you look at the history of how the Roman Empire was succeeded by Christianity, you can see that something greater than yourself is needed to sustain civilization.
The downfall is because people stray from what worked in previous centuries.
>>55636491
T H I S
The 20th century was the century of wars armed by science and propped up without religion
>>55636767
>the mind
Your mind. Not mine.
>>55636491
But, by your view, God made it happen.
>>55637037
>propped up without religion
I guess that's why God is always on our side, right?
>>55637086
True
I think people who don't crave it probably have a defect in that department
>>55636491
>atheists killing the religious in the name of non-religion
Try again, Huelander.
>>55637295
¿What?
>>55637213
God let it happen, so it would show the world how evil you little shits actually are.
>>55637558
You try again, my talking hamburguer friend
>>55637692
>God did it
>Atheists are evil
Mm kay.
>>55633957
Atheist are the reason we haven't removed the kebab off the face of the planet yet.
>>55637558
Nah but it did show that wars still occur with or without religion and that the world became no closer to peace with secularization
>>55636491
>>55636491
Yeah, and people got killed, no matter how religious they were or how hard they prayed to their gods and conquerors. One would think that would be telling of something.
>>55636779
Yeah, I got Horus Heresy on my backlog, though I doubt I will be substituting what it says for something I don't even think is lacking in my life. And downfall isn't just caused by decadence or turning away from tradition or dogma. Often it's the opposite, when stubbornly holding on to what has always worked gets you shot of your horse when you charge swords up at that tank.
>>55637675
I feel like most people wouldn't be willing to go to war and possibly die if they didn't have the utmost belief that there is a heaven and they are going there.
If everyone thought that when you died it's just non existence, how many people will be willing to suicide themselves on a bus, or the like? It would make their death effectively meaningless, in a completely meaningless existence, no?
>>55635640
Just because it's evil, doesn't mean it's wrong.
>>55637924
Religion is just another excuse one can use to start a war. Removing ideologies whose holy books and hundreds of years of history literally say "kill these guys" from the equation can only make things more peaceful.
There's no sacred Atheism Text that says "kill the religious".
>>55637843
>>55637558
Also this.
Get fucked.
Even if Islam didn't exist, the Middle East would still be shitty because it's poor and unstable. People are prone to mass violence in situations like modern Iraq, and they'll find a motive with or without religion. Take away Islam and the only difference is that the terrorists are communists/fascists/nationalists/ect.
>>55638309
>There's no sacred Atheism Text that says "kill the religious".
There is.
See
>>55637843
>>55638386
>>55637037
The only thing that matters is the advancement of civilization.
The only crimes of so called "atheist" regimes is that they failed in the end. They had a power behind them that allowed them to thrive for a short while.
This pacifist sentiment is what got us into the current stagnating governments.
Conflict is needed for progress. Live without conflict and you get another culture invading you and taking your whole continent without you being able to resist.
>>55638178
>Often it's the opposite
Only one example needed.
>>55635788
That would be Estonia idiot.
As an atheist I feel bad for France they basically invented secularism.
Fuck
>>55638386
>mfw
>>55637843
Yawn.
Everyone can see that the roots of totality lie in religion.
If God exists everything is permissible- After all if you are an agent of God why would you worry about petty moral and human concerns? What is a life to the supreme deity after all.
This notion was carried on into Stalinism- That you, the Stalinist, are an agent of the historical necessity working for the mythical 'people'.
Where, once again, what is a life compared to the lives of everyone else.
In this case the mythical concept of 'the people' simply replaces the God. Thus you justify your crimes as an act of greater good.
You would have to be colossally stupid to not see the influence of the orthodox church in the Stalinist system.
>>55638502
Please, Baitzilian. Don't tell me your government was busy bulldozing schools to make way for more soccer fields when you were growing up, too.
>>55638281
Hell, the early Church raised to establish and spread Dogma to its people just so they would stop martyring themselves on every other passing soldier or pagan spear to get a shot at that sweet sweet eternal paradise.
Gnosticism and open source Christianity got routed out with the unforgivable sin and mining pagan beliefs for hell because dead men can't pay taxes.
>>55638799
Nigger.
None of those things change the fact that ATHEISTS KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN RELIGIOUS PEOPLE DID in the 20th century
We are all butthurt over what happened today (i'm too), but that doesn't change the fact that atheists murdered more people than muslims ever did. Also the french revolution (another atheist murder spree) still is the worst period the french have ever been trough.
>>55638281
You think people died in both Wars to go to heaven?
No, they died to protect their Christian civilization. The Christian faith has no such doctrine of martyrdom in battle, on the contrary it promotes brotherhood and love of fellow Christian, which is why the Great War was such a cataclysmic event for Europe.
>>55635640
Compared to the previous 19 centuries filled with destruction brought about by "Gods" and "holy righteousness" and the stupid goal of "destroying sin and infidels"? Genocide at the hands of atheists is a feather compared to that at the hands of religious folk. Kek.
Oh no, not another atheist attack in Pa--
Oh wait.
>>55636491
You're an idiot. The only thing confirmed by the label “atheist” is that the person does not believe in "gods." It says nothing about one’s positive beliefs. That's like trying to make a generalization about people who don’t like baseball. Atheism even offers no theory on the universe, let alone morality, and it isn't supposed to because all atheism is is the lack of belief in "gods." It says nothing about if people take a principled, objective approach to morality. Again, you're a fucking dumbass.
>Nice no true scotsman though.
I said NOTHING that could legitimately pass as a no true Scotsman. I'm dumbfounded by your stupidity.
>>55636730
he was very catholic.
>>55639297
MFW Atheists killed more people than religious people did
>>55639299
Kind of dodged the question and then went on tangent there.
>>55638811
You americunts have no business shit talking another country.
How did that war on terror worked out for you? :^)
You cunts are directly responsible for ISIS today.
>>55639297
but not because of their atheism, you moron. atheism is just the default setting for a human.
>>55639297
You're arguing semantics, you also sound like a mouth breather.
You can slice that argument anyway, since it isn't a real argument, "oh the chinese killed more people in the 20th century than anyone else, so ofcourse the chinese are evil" "Oh the russians killed more people than anyone else" etc and so on.
You have essentially said that even though religion is the root cause of totality that enabled Stalinism to exist the fact that they were athiests is all that matters.
Again, you must be colossally stupid, the difference here is that no athiest makes a special claim to moral superiority- Whereas the religious do make this claim, whilst killed, committing genocide, raping, mutilating and so on.
>>55639543
See this you apologist cunt:
>>55637843
>>55638386
I'm tired of quoting myself and BTFO of you fedora tippers.
>>55639761
>USA is more responsible for ISIS than Islam is
>ape logic
>>55639761
ISIS's core principles are based on Islam's caliphate system, jihad etc. And you blame 'murica? Lmao
>>55638536
Well, Rome for example. It got too big for its own good, but instead of adapting to the threats at their boarders, they stubbornly kept to their old ways, piling on debt and over reliance on slave labor. It was tradition that killed the old empire, giving way for the new tradition once the borders were over flooded, a parable that eerily resonates today, seeing that the new Empire hasn't really ended yet. And pic related for that sword/tank reference.
>>55639353
He really doesn't understand what he's talking about, that's all. Avowed atheists being Heads of State doesn't mean their slaughters were religiously-motivated, that those actually carrying out the orders were necessarily atheists, or that atheism itself somehow preaches that the religious are deserving of death.
Atheism and the outlawing of religious groups was used as a means of control, to disrupt existing powerbases (religious in nature) and make them more easily subverted or dismantled. It's just totalitarianism. Stalin himself went back and started playing nice with the religious when it suited the goals of his government.
To an extent, this is often true of a lot of religious wars, current and in the past. Do we think the leaders of these conflicts seriously believe in what they're saying, or are they merely stoking the fires of religious rage to embolden their soldiers or make them think less about the inhumanities they're inflicting? It's obviously the latter. But that's where a big difference lies: you can EASILY use religion, its teachings, its centuries of violence, all the ill-will it's brought about between peoples, promises of paradise or threats of damnation, and all that childhood indoctrination to get your citizens to kill in the name of God. You can't do that with atheism. Try, and you're only latching your own movement onto it, because atheism in and of itself is not a movement, it's a default state of disbelief.
>>55638799
What a ridiculous masturbatory circle jerking we got here. You must have read too much continental philosophy.
>If God exists everything is permissible
Then if good doesn't everything is permissible too. Where is written that I can't kill people if I can get away with it?
Actually everything is permissible anyways, the only things that really matter is power and will to exert it.
> are an agent of the historical necessity working for the mythical 'people'
Well here we have a sort of truth, marx sucked hegels cock all the way to his hips.
>Where, once again, what is a life compared to the lives of everyone else.
Utilitarianism... which is secular.
>Everyone can see that the roots of totality lie in religion.
The root of totality lies in human nature.
>>55639991
Do you even understand what I'm saying you fucking ape? An atheist is not incompatible with communism because it's not a code of ethics, it's ONLY a metaphysical position.
>BTFO of you fedora tippers.
LMAO
>>55640425
>Avowed atheists being Heads of State doesn't mean their slaughters were religiously-motivated,
Yes they were.
Once again, see
>>55637843
>>55638386
Stop embarrassing yoursleves you cunts.
Also, just a heads up- Stalin is a saint in the Orthodox church
>>55633957
Also reminder that Christopher Tippens endorsed the Iraq War.
>>55639353
>Compared to the previous 19 centuries filled with destruction brought about by "Gods" and "holy righteousness" and the stupid goal of "destroying sin and infidels"?
Fedora tippers believing that ending religion will end human stupidity, how naive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iouhwXTQJIU
Reminder that Hitchens was the best defense against Liberal Muslim defenders.
>>55640660
Refer to item a, my chimp friend
>>55640661
>All these terrorists are religious and I can see how their worldview leads to their willingness to murder people.
>Oh crap, I'm religious too!
Confused? That seems pretty natural. I would be too. Maybe it's time to reevaluate your own religious worldview.
>>55640660
This is what happens when you base your world view on pictures with quotes instead of books and an actual understanding of politics and history.
>>55640744
Good for him.
>>55640661
Christians are really some good pieces of masochistic bastards. kek
>>55640793
No, you'll remain stupid regardless of your religious affiliation.
It would just be nice to move on from such childish and petty beliefs
>>55635880
Agnosticism in practice looks a lot like atheism in principle though.
>>55639358
I bet no one is going to die due to fedora jokes
>>55640661
>>55640813
See:
>>55637843
>>55638386
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_%281928%E2%80%9341%29
Go learn more about history then come back
>>55639699
You're entirely right, deny of a belief in something greater makes a civilization more passive.
However it still makes them prone to for example shoot up schools.
You go against all faith because you don't believe the fairy tales, but most Christians don't see those as central to their faith.
I'm entirely against evangelicals. Until very recently the Catholic Church was a great agent for order.
>>55640291
Rome died because they gave citizenship to pretty much anyone by the end and they overextended themselves.
Marius killed the Republic.
>>55633957
do we have to remind you that atheist have the high score for murder
>>55641165
>>55640744
I'd bet he'd be for kebab removal nowadays desu senpai
>>55641165
What, in history? Or just in some limited time frame that you've arbitrarily chosen to make a point?
>>55641069
“If God did not exist it would be necessary to invent him.” Voltaire
The plebs need religion, they don't behave very well without any.
>>55641111
Marius just tipped it over, it was already on the brink of collapse.
And
>However it still makes them prone to for example shoot up schools.
Kek, it was definitely Breivik's lack of belief in a cause that made him do what he did. And all those terrorists would totally be blowing themselves up and murdering people if they were atheists. Yeah, totally, atheism causes school shootings.
>>55641390
I prefer
"If God were real it would be necessary to abolish him" Bakunin
>>55642011
Breivic's actions were justified.
He didn't kill for a belief in God, it was a political killing.
>>55641390
>>55642053
>"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?”
What did he mean by this.exe
>>55642158
>Breiviks actions were justified
/pol/tards are literally this stupid
Also considering his fixation with the crusades I'd say Christianity can be apportioned some of the blame.
>>55642265
Nietzsche is so overrated
>>55642369
That's pretty slippery. Just about everyone (in the places we care about) is tainted by the Big Three religions in some way, they're utterly ubiquitous.
>>55642158
His beliefs, which included god, spurred him on. But as I've been claiming from the start, religious nonsense is just one of the many ways you justify ulterior motives. Breivik was a beta that wanted to suicide by cop, but he hid that fact from himself behind all this cryptic religio-political nonsense he roleplayed with other betas on the Internet.
>>55642053
i like my own "if God exists, humans are a device made for the sole purpose of refuting God".
because think about it, why would he create beings with the ability for critical thinking? what is a human in the world of God, than a God-refuter? i don't know if this is a popular concept or not, but it's just what i think.
>>55642623
I agree.
Infact I don't think christianity is why he did it, but was certainly an inspiration for the act.
Other course all of us are influenced, attended Catholic school and I know that some of these teachings have had an effect on me
>>55642053
Well I guess no way we cannot agree on anything. I am a reactionary evil fascist and you are an anarchist. Good luck then deconstructing the structures of power.
>Breiviks actions were justified
>/pol/tards are literally this stupid
They(or might I include myself we), aren't stupid. We just politically disagree with you. Which means we will judge people's actions in a different manner. If a guy went and shoot a bunch of Nazis how would you feel?
>>55642265
I don't like Nietzsche that much nor continental philosophy. I think an evolutionary approach is much more accurate in describing human nature, behavior and ends.
>>55642762
This is true.
Why would God give you free choice but then give you a 'wrong' choice.
question athiests...
what if you're wrong?
have you genuinely considered what took place in Roman Judea 2000 years ago?
historical evidence shows there was an extraordinary rabbi who was factually crucified. he turned the world on its head.
are you 100% sure he isn't who he claimed to be?
>>55643251
I disagree with many people, but you are literally so stupid.
Even invoking godwin's law to to try and justify Breivik, sad really.
>>55642762
I think kierkgaard deals with this issue philosophically(I never actually read him, just poked around). It's ironic that he along Darwin are to blame for the appearance of modern atheist.
>>55642265
Philosophy, science, and society at large killed God. Nietzsche considered this to be the most significant historical development ever, and its implications would play out over centuries.
>>55643277
Maybe the god of the material world is a flawed, imperfect being, trapped here with us against its will, indifferent at best of times, malevolent at worst, and only a select few of us can ever hope to escape a cycle of constant material reincarnation and onto a higher plain of non material being. Come, join the Gnostics now, drink the hemlock or throw yourself at a Roman spear.
>>55643474
Better question:
Why do you think we WANT to be right? You cannot accuse an athiest of wishful thinking.
Furthermore the Jesus story is historical a nonsense. "Oh they had to go back to Bethlehem because of the census"
There was never such a thing, this is a mythical contortion to try and retrospectively fulfill a prophecy
>>55643474
athiesm has nothing to do with a guy getting crucified. your whole post is like denying evolution because you don't know what abiogenesis means
>>55643543
It's not godwin law. You are a anarchist, you certainly hate nazis. You are likely to cheer their death. Brevik killed a bunch of leftists for his political goal too. What main difference there is?
>>55643474
It wasn't necessary for Jesus to be divine to do what he did. He was the right man in the right place at the right time. His message was irresistible to those under the thumb of the Roman Empire and those occupying the lower spaces of its society.
>>55642265
The same thing most intelligent Christian philosophers say today.
When you take away God then something else takes its place and there's no guarantee it will bring a better world.
Christianity warns about wanting to become God.
>>55642369
Yes everything will be all right as long as we do it democratically.
And the US was evil for trying to fight communism.
>>55642649
Always showing the bad side of Christianity to prove a point.
Atheism doesn't have the same claim to evil because it's a non-ideology.
What do you put in place of Christian culture?
Ever wonder why societies which condemn polygamy and child rape have a Christian background?
My point is: you have your atheist world, now what? You think people won't revert back to immorality? Look at non-Christian civilizations.
I like how all you faggots have derailed into philosophical and theological masturbation.
I'll quote myself for one last time:
>>55637843
>>55638386
Now either own up to it you atheists faggots or stop blaming muslims for their terrists attack today.
>>55643888
It is, you are invoking the nazis for literally no purpose.
The scenario would be, imagine, a liberal going and shooting up a Hitler Youth camp to try and get rid of bolshevism.
Not only immoral but incredibly stupid.
I am no anarchist, I am a confirmed catholic too
>>55643570
True, but also that the majority of people would still hold onto God's skirt for a while, proclaiming that he was still amongst us, claiming that he still lives on in their heart of hearts despite Him not walking amongst them or having any real influence on societal progress, that it might take another dark age before we killers finally let go.
>>55633957
>>55634120
Atheist here. Any other atheists pissed off when retards try to attach atheism to political ideologies?
Some dipshit told me the other day that if you're an atheist, you should be a leftist as well. I just don't believe in religion or a God. Why is that so hard to understand?
>>55644442
Because the churches try to tar their enemies with the same brush, everything bad falls into the category of communist/socialist
It's the same way Israel cries anti-semetism at any criticism- a way to try and silence debate.
>>55635407
checkmate
>>55644442
Conservatives just get booty blasted by atheists. I'm an atheist, but I'm a right-winger as well.
>>55644442
That would make you agnostic.
The word atheist has been hijacked by the New Atheist movement.
>>55644442
>Some dipshit told me the other day that if you're an atheist, you should be a leftist as well. I just don't believe in religion or a God. Why is that so hard to understand?
Gee, i wonder why
>>55637843
>>55638386
:^)
>>55644442
>Any other atheists pissed off when retards try to attach atheism to political ideologies?
Yeah.
>>55643474
Then I would be wrong. Then again, what if he was wrong and the Egyptians were right. I bet Jesus would have been startled after turning a portion of the world on its head (didn't do much for Asia), expecting a seat besides his father/holy ghost that is also him in a weird way (to settle an argument) after he died, meting Osiris judgment instead like a regular king or a commoner. Hell, what if the first religion was right, but we have forgotten it and are all destined to some kind of forgotten hell?
>>55633957
I always chose the "whatever" route regarding religion, but I've been getting pretty fedora lately. I have megatarded religious people around me in my new job and home city in addition to all this violent idiocy going on.
>>55644258
>I am no anarchist, I am a confirmed catholic too
Then why?
>"If God were real it would be necessary to abolish him" Bakunin
>It is, you are invoking the nazis for literally no purpose.
Godwin law refers to fallacy purposes as in a hyperbolic comparison usually in ad homs, I used the nazis as an EXAMPLE!
>>55644735
Yeah yeah everybody saw the communists. Negão.
>>55645001
The true religion stems from this guy's metaphysics.
>>55645227
It was a hyperbolic comparison.
Also
>quoting someone means you are a follower
The stupidity is boundless
>>55645093
I used to think this way, but it becomes clearer everyday that this childish system of beliefs is too much trouble.
If the religious could just keep it to themselves we would all be much better.
>>55645496
>tfw you will never fight a metaphysical war against Lucifer
>>55645640
>It was a hyperbolic comparison.
No, I supposed he was an anarchist, anarchists hate nazis. It would have been exactly the same argument if I used "statists" or "communists" instead.
>quoting someone means you are a follower
Ok this was actually stupid, but it still doesn't make sense why is he a catholic.
>>55645835
wait, there is more
>>55633957
The mudslimes are doing enough shit now that us fedoras finally might be able to slip past the cracks.
>>55644442
I tip my fedora to you, fellow atheist. I'm right wing as fuck and it has nothing to do with whether I believe in the skyman or not.
We must reject kebab because our countrymen will not.
>>55644722
What the fuck? "I don't believe in religion or a God" doesn't mean you're agnostic, it means you're an atheist.
The word agnostic has been hijacked by disbelievers who don't want to catch the same level of flak from the religious as atheists do. Where I live in the Midwest, if you tell your religious friends and family that you're an atheist, you're scorned and tut-tutted and old ladies weep. Say you're agnostic? Oh, that's nice dear, you'll come around on it.
>>55647022
You don't understand.
I call myself an agnostic because I don't want to be associated with the retarded New Atheist movement.
>>55647223
Well if you are not a militant atheist it doesn't make much of a difference anyway.
>>55633957
Christopher Hitchens was right about literally everything.
>>55647410
Even his last words?
>I TOLD YOU ABOUT THEM
>HOW DARE YOU NOT LISTEN
>>55647223
And that's the other half of it. But you're in fucking Belgium, who even gives a shit there?
What word are you going to hop to when "agnostic" isn't cool enough for you anymore? You don't see any other group changing their name when a part of them gets all loud-mouthed and draws (more) negative attention. Did Christians start calling themselves Jesusites when the Tea Party was making the far religious right look like a bunch of loons?
>>55644722
this agnostic meme has to stop
the actual definition of atheist is disbelief or lack of belief in a god/s
that's it. everything else you attach to it is your own projections about atheism. just stop.
>>55644442
yea it pisses me off. i have liberal and conservative values.
i hate automatically connected with obama. i hate the guy
>>55647753
>who even gives a shit there
Indeed.
And I don't care for the name atheist because I don't define myself by the things I don't believe.
>>55647589
"Atheism was a mistake"
>>55648009
Wasn't it something about the death of capitalism?
>>55648093
“Capitalism.”
“Downfall.”
>>55648361
That seems on point.
I can only hope we can build and activate The Machine before we blow ourselves up.
ITT: No one knows the difference between atheism, agnosticism, and anti-theism. C'mon guys, stop the accusations.
>>55635640
>Also atheist have killed more people in the 20th century than muslims have ever killed.
>Prove me wrong fedora tippers.
You have the burden of proof, bro.
>>55643474
if I am wrong then I would be a believer if it were proven.
I was a believer for years. I fully believed in Christian apologetics for a good long time and preached it.
Muhammad also turned the world on it's head.
I believe he was an actual person but most of the Bible is non-verified. Abraham is said never to exist and the Exodus never happened. Messianic prophecies were taken out of context or made up.
however, if you are wrong you could have chosen the wrong sect in Christianity or maybe there is another God and you are making him angry everytime you pray to Jesus.
Christopher Hitchens was the greatest public intellectual of the late 20th century
Such an interesting guy and right about almost anything
I think if he saw what would have come out of the vacuum in Iraq created after the U.S. left the region he would have reversed his opinion on the Iraq war.
>>55635640
Stalinism =/= Atheism
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