So you might have heard that our glorious fuhrer John Key wants to change the flag. What will it do for the country? Nothing, really.
He has spent millions on this referendum that could have been spent elsewhere.
Pros:
Ignorant people will stop confusing us with aussies.
Cons:
People won't recognise our flag at all now.
They all look like business/sports logos.
No association with our heritage and our soldiers.
The first round of voting starts this month.
What's your opinion /pol/? Would you vote for these flags?
>>55630994
why do so many of them have that exact same fern?
>>55630994
Why is this shit still going? I thought kiwis told them to fuck off.
They're all shit
might as well go with the trippy spiral.
>>55630994
Far right flag.
At the very least, far left flag.
>>55630994
why are you not keeping the union flag on it you bigoted racist nazis
>>55631370
Although second to left is better than far left.
I think the swirly thing and the black and white fern look good
>>55630994
Right; maintains same color scheme.
>>55630994
wave a best
Sorry, I don't really keep up with your politics, but is there something wrong with your existing flag?
>>55630994
>>55630994
That fucking last mlg flag,,,.. also needs some dubstep to it....
Post scriptum,
Fuck france and europe, i hope you all choke on muslick cock, Thats for bombing us ... Fuck you gay bitches,
>>55630994
Those looks like a sports' team flag.
>>55631678
no but our metropolitan elite want to change it because feelings. The population isn't having any of it.
>>55631678
There's nothing wrong with it. As far as I'm aware most of us want to keep the old one.
dumping my favorites.
>>55630994
you just just change it to a white flag with red text on it saying "new zealand" in comic sans
>>55631949
Well I couldn't explain all the symbology in your current flag, but at least it looks like a nice proper stately flag.
>>55630994
People already consider you guys Middle Earth might as well use a flag from Lord of the Rings like this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondor
>>55630994
I always loved the NZ and Aussie flags. I really like that they are similar, representing their shared history/geography/culture/relationship. I see that as a strength rather than a weakness.
I will be sad to see NZ change their flag.
>>55632237
I wouldn't complain, to be honest. At least the Gondor flag is more well designed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIurWouAjOY
J E W
Z E A L A N D
no seriously, you guys have the kike to end all kikes as PM
>>55632370
It won't be changed.
>Date: 8–16 September 2015
>Conducted by: Reid Research
>For change: 25%
>Against change: 69%
Undecided: 6%
>>55631282
They did. In over 1/3 of the responses to the "independent flag committee" people said they didn't want the change.
Those opinions were tossed into the bin and "equality" was the outcome of the committee. Yes, one word. Equality.
>the ride never ends
>>55632740
we know.
Seen our opposition? i'd rather have a kike that is right wing than Sweden tier leftists.
Those flags are terrible as fuck.
replacing the union jack on your flag with a leaf is the most pathetic keked thing imaginable, learn a lesson from us and be proud of your national heritage
>>55630994
Its going to end up being a waste of $20 million. I'm generally a National supporter, but Key done fucked up with this one.
>>55630994
The silver fern flags look pretty decent IMO.
>>55630994
All of those looks so out of place among the other flags. And not in a good way.
>>55630994
Those flags are awful, they look like a sports' teams flag.
Try this one on for size.
>>55632880
Let's hope that shitty Koru design wins so the NZ flag BTFO's it.
>>55630994
>A FUCKING LEAF
How embarrassing
>>55633919
That's actually a plan going around Facebook and such. I know I'll be voting for it.
>>55633920
For you, Senpai
>>55633920
I see what you did there
>>55630994
Red Peak's the only one that even looks like a flag, but I feel the same as >>55632370
Whole flag change is a waste of money. Could've been $26 million into education or doing something for nurses, both of which Key has consistently fucked over ever since he's come into office.
>>55634437
>A FUCKING HARP
>>55634437
Also an alternate USA flag. IIRC for a fascist America?
>>55634589
Hey! It's not my fault Ireland and Scotland are shit
>>55634589
The harp is on the ceiling of your parliament in Ottawa Canacuk
Plus it used to have titties
all the flags look like shit and it wont change the whole thing has been a gigantic waste of money to take press away from the tpp fuck john key
here in chch people are still living in garages from the earthquakes that were like 5 years ago and they waste this money on bullshit what a fucking joke
>>55633014
>Seen our opposition?
What's wrong with Winston?
Good, your retarded flag is just a knockoff of the retarded australian flag. Doesn't even have any fucking stripes.
>>55634879
He's never going to be taken seriously.
>>55634633
better American Empire flag
I'm just waiting for our kek of a government to try to change ours too and include something to do with the abos on it.
Stay strong Poo Peeland bros.
>>55630994
fucking hell, keep the flag you people died under. the flags are all rags, its what they stand for that fucking matters. stop trying to make your flag into a fucking corporate rebranding exercise. honor your ancestors.
t. reverse russian flag flag expert
>>55630994
>>55633184
RED PEAK M8s
http://strawpoll.me/6000119
STRAWPOLL BITCHES, GET IN HERE.
>>55635240
Here's your flag choices
>>55630994
Red Peak is the best flag since it doesn't include complete kekery and has a legitimate reason. The design you lot have is perfectly fine though.
Goatse motif?
>>55636158
desu if it weren't a goatse joke and either the sun or the stars were removed that would be a really cool flag design
>>55636158
That's clearly somebody having their anus spread.
>>55630994
red peak is so fucking shit. keep the current flag. and why is the blue on the first one not the same blue as our current flag? would make it much better imo
Red peak is objectively the best
dont put a faggy twig or a nigger swirl on your flag
>>55636396
Say whaaaaaa?
>>55636476
>>55636513
but red peak : >>55636476
this is good >>55636574
>>55630994
Its fucking better than 3 fucking colored stripes withotu any inspiration or historical accuracy. The actual flag was double this motive.
I fucking hate this my flag.
Id vote Koru, just for the fact that it looks by far the most ridiculous.
>mfw regardless of the outcome, New Peeland will have an ooga-booga tribal flag to accommodate Maori dindus
>>55635928
>>55630994
Red white and blue silver fern flag looks cool.
>>55636913
wonderful
>>55635186
I don't like how small the stars are
Red Peak is Africa tier
I would mistake you for an african nation often
>>55630994
So is the last round going to be the current flag vs the selected ooga booga flag, or just ooga booga flags?
>>55636927
It's a nice design, pity it's ripped straight from a plastic dinnerware brand
>>55631213
I might be wrong but the silver fern is like their national plant or something.
My god, those flags are ugly.
>estonia color scheme for no reason
>company logo
>a fucking swirly, seriously?
>the black and white feathers of my soul, wow guys we got an edgy designer over here
The last one is the only acceptable design, but it's still awful.
These designs are clearly meant to look "modern", which is why they all suck. That "Koru" shit is by far the worst one, I mean seriously what the fuck is that? A drink brand? Jesus.
>>55630994
The Black and White Silver Fern flag is awesome. That would be one of the best flags in the world. Its like the All Blacks got their own national flag.
>>55630994
>Sliver fern (red white and blue)
>Red Peak
Both are good flags. I'd be happy to change to either of them.
>>55631678
>too similar to Australia
>Union Jack in the corner
>doesn't inspire patriotism
>no international recognition
Foreigners recognize the silver fern but not our flag. Our flag also doesn't inspire patriotism in Kiwi's the way yours does to Americans.
People on /pol/ insist that our current flag is fine because they're traditionalists who see this as a progressive degradation of New Zealand culture or whatever, but the truth is that changing our flag would be a good thing in the long run.
>inb4 "Abandoning our anglo roots" or some shit
The UK abandoned us decades ago. You shouldn't admire a Muslim infested, European totalitarian police state on the other side of the world.
>>55638033
Yes the last round basically decides whether we want a change or not.
>>55638560
To be honest, family, I had absolutely no fucking idea about this fern until a few minutes ago when somebody pointed out that these weird silly-looking feather/plant things were actually ferns. I've never in my life heard of a silver fern until just now.
But I did recognize a long time ago, "hey it's like australia, but something's silghtly different... it's all red over there. neat."
>>55638560
fuck off
>>55639289
Sorry Ahmed, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
>>55639143
>it's all red over there
Actually, there are no red deserts in New Zealand. We're a green country of forests and pastures. You're mistaking us for Australia.
It's kind of funny how you tried to disregard one of my points only to accidentally prove me right.
>>55639887
I think anon meant the red stars on our flag?
>>55639887
No, I mean the stars on the flag are red.
>>55640173
>>55640059
My mistake then
>>55639887
I dunno, the Rangipo Desert is kinda red if you squint hard enough, even though it's not really a proper desert.
>>55630994
The flag isn't going to change. Not after today
>>55630994
>WE DID IT FIRST KIWIFAGS
>>55638560
The United Tribes flag was pretty cool, I wouldn't mind using something based on that instead.
>>55630994
I can see it now
>A
>FUCKING
>FERN
>>55640501
>bugz gg id
this is off-topic but is the fauna of New Zealand as terrible as Australia's?
>>55638560
>too similar to Australia
>Union Jack in the corner
>doesn't inspire patriotism
>no international recognition
You're an irrelevant British colony. I mean, I like you guys but c'mon. It's not some spiffy new hairdo; all the cute girls at the UN aren't suddenly going to start noticing you.
That said, the red and blue fern (with or without the stars) is cool. Better than Canada's and Australia's that's for sure.
>>55638079
underrated post
New Zealand tackling the real issues I see.
>>55636158
>Rickard Insario
I know what this picture is supposed to be and I approve it .
>>55640935
Nah shit no. We have two mildly poisonous spider, and that's it.
>>55638560
Since the Motherland has become an absolute shameful latrine, it is our duty to uphold the Pride of the Union Jack.
Not our fault the genetic garbage couldn't l2colonize.
>Airline corporate logos
>Flags
>>55632201
I keked.
>>55641143
> 4 million people
> on security council
> ex PM might take top job
Not that the UN means shit tho pham tbqh. We just win it for sport.
>>55640935
No. Before humans arrived New Zealand was the closest thing on this earth to the Garden of Eden.
>The only native mammal was the worlds most adorable fruit bat
>The only natural predators were some hawks and eagles
>It's so peaceful that animals actually lose their natural defenses
>Fat flightless fluffy birds roam the forest floor
>No venous or large reptiles
>Only one species of poisonous spider, and it's not even deadly
>>55641419
>it is our duty to uphold the Pride of the Union Jack
Fuck that. The UK hasn't sacrificed a thing for NZ in the past hundred years.
Hell, they fucked up our economy when they stopped importing our goods, all so they could become Germany's butt buddy in the EU.
The UK doesn't care about its old colonies, if it ever did. They don't deserve your loyalty or reverence. You don't owe them shit.
>>55636620
Fucking gold, take my money
>>55642205
I don't mind losing the Union Jack, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let our flag be disproportionately Maori.
>>55640676
hahahahaha this
>>55631213
All submitted by ONE guy. He did like 5 of these flags with that fern design, and 3 of them were picked by "The Committee."
>>55630994
silver fern
Say not to commie red colors
WHO /redpeak/ HERE?
FUCKOFF TO TEH FERN.
>>55642205
Yeah, okay.
I don't even care, I just like this bird.
>>55642875
Red Peak can fuck off too. People only supported it as a "fuck you" to JK because of the poor flag choice when the first four were announced. Yes it's a more solid design than the others, but it looks like a company logo, not a flag.
>>55633382
Underrated post kek
>>55643367
>looks like a company logo
What do you think a nation is in 2015?
>>55643666
Well, with John Key running things...
join us
>>55643998
The federation option is still on the table, right?
They all suck. Red peak looks like Marlboro, Lockwood is a fag.
The Kuru spiral is the best but not that good.
>pic unrelated
>>55630994
Silver fern black white and blue desu. Silver fern black and white is acceptable. The rest are trash.
>>55630994
Those are the faggiest flags I've ever seen.
I mean, they're not even meaningful.
Ferns and waves? wtf.
Might as well put sheep and kiwis on it.
>>55642205
>They don't deserve your loyalty or reverence. You don't owe them shit.
Disgusting that they give chinks a say in Commonwealth matters.
>>55635928
>>55630994
Petition to save the old one. (Maybe you'll get it back once Key is gone) But if you must choose one of these abominations, go with the far right.
>>55645498
Is... is that a flaming pokeball with a skull on it?
>>55645849
Immortan Joe logo from Max Max.
>>55644887
>If you're not a Muslim loving Britaboo you're a race traitor Chink
Yeah right.
Is it too much to ask that we have pride in ourselves instead of being beholden to some foreign assholes?
Australia is 33 times larger than Britain. You're richer in natural resources, have a better culture and live a higher quality of life. The UK is only more relevant because of its historical geopolitical ties and larger population, not because Australia is a worse country.
20 years from now who knows how thing will be.
Don't bow to the UK and don't bow to China. Be loyal to yourself and your own nation, not to any apathetic foreigners.
>>55645779
I recall a while back the majority (75%+?) vote was to keep the original flag, so they removed that option.
>>55646256
>Be loyal to yourself
We are, in our support of OUR Commonwealth.
Traitorous false dichotomies don't change that.
>>55638560
I get it. It's nice having nature featured on the flag
>>55646277
We still get to vote to keep the old flag, but it's after we've chosen the new flag.
>>55631213
Because
>muh rugby
>>55646748
Ah, my mistake. So there is still hope, then.
>>55630994
Here's my suggestion
>>55646835
Yeah. Most likely we will end up with the old flag and it will have all been a waste of time.
>>55647049
Much like the Republican movement here. At least it's good for shutting them up for a time.
>>55630994
Would you rather look like a knock off Australia, or a Somalian pirate?
>>55630994
They're all fucking garbage.
People died under that flag, to change it for such petty reasons is revolting.
>>55647688
That's perfect
>>55630994
what the fuck man
they all look shitty
union jack looks badass already
>putting black in a flag
thats literally african country tier shit
Is NZ majority Maori or something? Why are they all Maori flags?
>>55647688
HAH
>>55630994
>No association with our heritage and our soldiers.
I agree with the flag change but the graves of dead Kiwi soldiers all have the fern
>>55648291
Funny that, if you adopt a flag with a fern then you basically become like Canada.
>>55648076
>The latest Census figures show there were 598,605 people of Maori ethnicity living in New Zealand on Census night in 2013
About 14%.
>>55648076
Because unlike Australia where we oppress our natives they pander to Maoris and get C ucked by them.
>>55631403
Absolutely this. Wtf Australia
>>55648814
Politically correct bullshit desu.
>>55647817
>putting black in a flag
>thats literally african country tier shit
what
>>55648596
Oh please, we pander plenty to the coons.
Hell, I know a chap who is as Aryan wunderkind as can be (parents pure German, tall, blonde hair, blue eyes), and he received indigenous apprentice of the year a while back because he was born on the Torres Straight Islands (parents on vacation), so they wouldn't dare say he wasn't native for fear of being racist.
I like the rightmost flag.
>>55648940
You know we're all going to laugh at you if you pick one of those shit-tier designs.
If you're going to change your flag, change it to something good.
>>55647817
>Brazil
>talking shit about african stuff
>>55648596
We literally breed the maori out of existence m8 . There are no pure bloods left
>>55648999
>Germans
>Not going to be replaced by Muslims by 2040
Your argument is no longer valid amigo.
>>55649011
Right but our natives still live in poverty and kill themselves off by huffing glue,petrol,paint thinners etc.
>>55649172
Maori genes have clearly overruled any white genes as they're still violent savages.
>>55647817
>>55648999
>>55649163
>we br try to interact with our european overlords
>they ignore us and we end up talking with ourselves
>>55649172
>breeding with maoris
Disgusting
>>55635451
it's not so far fetched. they're a traditional maori symbol. the greater wellington regional council already has a swastika as its logo.
>>55649370
You bred with Abos mi8. They aren't even human
>>55649353
>Maori genes have clearly overruled any white genes as they're still violent savages.
Theres nowhere to go but more dilution. They're done
>>55649353
Of course, but the government tries to support them as they do this.
>Maori genes have clearly overruled any white genes as they're still violent savages.
Like the Spaniards with the Aztecs. Genetics are fun sometimes.
>>55649353
Keep the Muslims in line though.
If they try any siege shit, they know they are going to get their mosques burned down. You see, Maoris just don't care.
The Treaty of Waitangi was a mistake.
>>55649354
kek you came here to serve them and agree with everything they say? No shit "complexo de vira-lata" is still a thing
>>55649533
>You bred with Abos mi8
lol. Halfbreed abbos are about as common as maoris who don't steal
>>55632880
If it won't be changed why are these other flags being presented?
>>55630994
I like the Pepsi version on the left tbqh
>>55630994
They look like the flag of some upstart nation in an anime or something. That's not a good thing.
>>55630994
The Lockwood design is quite nice tbqhwymgs
Go with that one.
Best answer to this question is: How do we defeat the CIA? The real answer to this question is: We don't.
Too many sheep.
>>55649818
The one on the right to be more specific..
>>55649567
>MFW Maoris are actually converting to Islam.
Your fucked m8, your whole country is fucked.
>>55633382
Yeah, what kind of retarded nation would replace their national colours with a dumb, contrived leaf banner
>>55649862
Payscale for the CIA isn't all that good. That's why they use contractors.
And we all know what happens when you contract all your shit out and it winds up in the hands of the sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-contractors after six levels of the lowest bid.
>Key was born in Auckland, New Zealand, to George Key (1914–1969)[2] and Ruth Key (née Lazar, 1922–2000),[2] on 9 August 1961. His father was an English immigrant and a veteran of the Spanish Civil War and World War II.[3] Key and his two sisters were raised in a state house in the Christchurch suburb of Bryndwr, by his mother, an Austrian Jewish immigrant
>his mother, an Austrian Jewish immigrant
>>55649950
> maori girls
> wearing hijab
kek
>>55649758
According to our laws, if a petition gets X amount of signatures, there has to be a referendum on the petition.
The really sad thing about the flag petition, however, is that most of the signatures were forged by somebody who just went through the phone book and wrote the names or something along those lines.
Waste of $27 million desu.
>>55648479
>>55630994
Either Red Peak or the Koru one. The fern is too intricate to be on a flag. It would not be visible to the naked eye several meters in the air, and it looks like shit anyway. The Koru one and Red Peak would be good for a flag as they are instantly recognisable and would be visible no matter how far away it was or how the flag would be waving in the air.
The symbology is really not important at all, as no good flag exists that emphasizes symbology over vexillology. The fern has got to go.
>>55649950
worse, they're converting to mormonism
>>55630994
People don't recognize your flag anyways and think its Australia's
>>55650106
It get's better.
His sisters have actively worked in Germany on matters pertaining to the Holocaust. I can't remember specifically what, though. It might have been collecting names or something.
Also, he worked as a banker for a Jewish company.
>>55650272
Maori mormons are the best cunts out there
>>55638079
one thing every nation has in common is an incompetent government
Soooooo.... just like Canada did before, NZ is going to throw away their perfectly nice flag to replace it with a shitty, meaningless one?
Laser Kiwi would be better
>>55630994
The thing you have to ask yourself is, when you're dying on the battlefield and you look up just in time to see your comrades hoist the flag to signal victory, do you feel pride.
If yes then that's the flag that you should use.
Personally knowing nothing about New Zealand I have to say that none of them really strike me as giving off national pride.
And yes, I'd bleed for the leaf. fuck anyone who says so. its a pretty sharp looking leaf.
>>55650375
also he personally escorted mossad agents to the airport after the Christchurch earthquake
>>55641154
It's important that any sign of british heritage be removed. Certain people just don't like it.
If they could change the union jack in the UK they would… they'll try it at some point trust me.
>>55644278
That's a flag. None of this swirly design studio bullshit
>>55630994
>fern
> a fucking leaf
top kek
>>55650453
I just want us to plagarise the dankest flag in existence at this point.
>>55630994
I hope the koru one wins and you become the first official meme-nation of the planet.
This is my flag for a north american union. thoughts? I'm not very imaginative
>>55630994
But aren't you fags owned by the brits? You need to show the British flag somewhere.
>>55651059
>thoughts
Yeah, stay the fuck up in Canada and leave us alone. Don't ruin a good thing.
>>55651260
>American flag
>Good
dohohohoho.
I actually liked this one, shame it didn't make it to the final round.
>>55651696
Like I give a fuck what you think of my flag (yours is actually kind of classy in spite of being a goddamned maple leaf, NZ take note) I just don't care for this NAU bullshit.
Why does it need to be associated with soldiers? Really, anon.
Also I think New Zealand is probably the only country in the world that successfully integrated the native population, so Maori heritage is kind of your heritage.
Those flags are shit, but not because of "muh soldiers" and "muh white heritage."
>>55652291
>Successfully integrated the native population.
Maoris fucking hate us.
>>55630994
REMINDER TO VOTE FOR THE BLACK AND WHITE KORU.
IT'S THE SHITTEST LOOKING FLAG, SO IF IT WINS, THE TRUE FLAG WILL WRECK IT.
>>55652785
I sincerely hope this backfires and you get stuck with that shit
>>55652155
oh yeah, in that case I agree with you. I don't want my country to just be another state.
But IF it happened, that's my submission for flag.
This is my submission if Canada ever became communist for example. especially if it happened in the 1950s.
>>55652785
I can't even be stuffed voting in the first referendum.
I'll just vote for the current flag in the second one.
![220px-US_flag_48_stars.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/rRFyVIY.png "220px-US_flag_48_stars.svg[1].png")
>>55651059
How about this one
>We could've been true imperials. we took the wrong lands. Went for pacific/carribean islands instead of glorious northlands.
>>55630994
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>>55652949
>If.
You mean when.
>>55652711
Oh come on, that's bullshit. NZ appropriated basically all of their important cultural customs and symbols into it in some way and they fucking love it.
>those two black and white ones
LITERAL RACEMIXING PROPOGANDA
Far right one is best out of those, but honestly, Australia and New Zealand should be strengthening bonds, not moving apart.
Fuck all of those gay jew flags.
New Zealand & Australia flag bros for life.
>a fucking fern
>>55653202
We outright banned their language until the 80s.
Although I will concede that we treated them far better than pretty much any other native population, their mindset tends to revolve around blaming the white man for their problems.
I don't know if you've ever read "Once were warriors" (you probably don't, it kills your brain to read), but the 'blame whitey' culture is really ingrained into them.
Of course, as with any race, there are also a lot of them that are fine.
>>55653509
Well let me just put it this way.
When I see an Aboriginal, they're on the street with a sign asking me for money.
When I go to NZ and see Maoris, they're normal people going about their day.
Now that's a flag
>he's going to have a fern on his flag
T O P C U C K
>>55632904
Have you considered shooting your politicians until they have higher priorities
>>55655117
>mfw day of the rope never comes
