Hows that gun control working out for ya france?
>>55630961
It's clearly not 'real' gun control because the terrorists have guns.
>>55630961
Let the bodies cool a bit before we start spitefully reminding them why they suck.
>>55631280
gee it's almost like if terrorists don't follow rules
I blame germany personally. You know the terrorists were part of the migrant surge.
How's that lax gun control working out for ya USA with yer weekly school shooting events? :^)
What do you think would happen if every Muslim in France could easily buy a gun?
>>55632440
>Poland
At least we have schools to shoot
>>55630961
Hey America? Managed to not shoot up any schoolkids this week? Congrats!
>>55632614
Same thing that happens today dumb ass
Fun fact : politicians were already planning to ban pump action shotguns (which had just become legal again in 2012 after a ban in 1995) and 7,62x39 as well as all the weapons in that calibers for sport shooters at the end of the year. Now they're gonna use those attacks as further justification to do so, claiming that criminals and terrorists get their ammo from sport shooters even though they can't prove such an outrageous claim.
Watch us as we get even more control, maybe even a possible ban of all semi-auto weapons and handguns, which have been planned at the EU level for a few years now.
>>55632440
Polan got keked lel
>>55632614
They already can, that's the point. Only white people have to go through a full year of pure bureaucratic bullshit to get a gun.
Imagine if just five people held hostage had a gun. The terrorists would have been BTFO
>>55630961
This is not about your precious gun control.
Overwhelmingly French people do not want guns in the hands of citizens in the streets and their culture is not to carry weapons wherever they go either.
You might think this stupid, you might say we're therefore not free, but most french people don't care about that topic.
>>55633946
Get Jihaded then dummy. Sticking your head in the sand doesn't make you safe.
>>55632654
im crying thank you
>>55633946
>Overwhelmingly French people do not want guns in the hands of citizens in the streets
France: 156 dead
Texas: 2 dead (the attackers)
The difference between no guns and guns. Learn it, Frenchie.
>>55632654
>the refugees were treated badly
-some bitch on RT
women really do open their legs for invaders
>>55634525
They should have ZERO say in anything remotely political. Letting women have any say in politics is the same as putting a five year old behind the wheel of a car.
And yes they really do, because it's been ingrained in them over our entire existed to submit to a conquering force.
>>55633946
>Overwhelmingly French people do not want guns
According to who? The socialist party?
France had a gun culture up to the 80's-90's, you could buy a pump action shotgun in supermarkets then, totally unregistered, you just had to show an ID card to prove you were over 18.
Most Frenchmen used to carry guns on the streets up until 1939 when France got its first gun control laws. Conveniently, politicians surrendered right after and people had no guns anymore to resist the nazis.
Furthermore, an article about the right to own guns and use them to defend oneself, his country and countrymen should have been written in the declaration of human rights and of the citizen by Mirabeau, but everyone thought it was so obvious that a free people needs guns to maintain the ideal of the revolutions ; they decided there was no need to include it.
But then again, even if it was included, leftards would have still thought of a way to create gun control laws, saying that it was written centuries ago, that the writers didn't know that weapons would evolve, etc, just like they are doing in the US about the 2nd amendment.
By the way, the amount of legal gun owners in France has been steadily increasing for years, despite the politicians' attempt to make things so difficult that people are usually discouraged from even trying.
>>55630961
>Implying that more guns would've helped at a fucking CONCERT against 5 "Men" with Kalashnikovs
>>55634134
What you idiots don't get is that your precious 2nd amendment is not universal. It's made for america and americans. You're a nation of frontier people, far from governments and having to rely on yourselves.
We are not, we have lived in towns and cities for a long time and we never needed to carry weapons everywhere for self defense.
You can't change the french people nor can you solve those terrorist attacks like that. What we need to do is close the borders and destroy salafism wherever it may lurk.
Not wanting a gun culture is not having your head in the sand, nor is it being powerless
Personally i like guns. I've been pondering getting one for the final happening. And in truth, getting a weapon is not that hard in France. It's controlled sure, but i have friends with weapons. But even they wouldn't have brought a gun to a concert.
>>55631280
>Implying armed citizens couldn't have shut this all down in 10 minutes
stay keked
>>55632803
Careful buddy, wouldn't want us reporting you for operating that butter knife without a proper license.
>>55635255
Its called a counter attack faggot.
>>55635558
>tfw it's actually true for you
>>55635865
We are legion, etc
>>55630961
You fuckers have had how many mass shootings in the last decade?
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN IN A NATION WITH GUN CONTROL
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
GUNS ARE ILLEGAL
>>55635719
A counter-attack by who? The hostages? They're not illiterate hicks like yourself and wouldn't bring guns to a concert.
>>55631888
gee its almost like gun control doesn't really work then :^)
I hope I never die like that. Laying face down on the dirty sticky floor of some concert hall for a shit band while some fucking shitskin hadji casually walks around zipping everyone in the back of the head with an unzerod AK sprinkling my corpse with cheap 7.62 wolf steel casings while snackbaring all over a Gopro in slow motion.
So thankful for the constitutional second amendment right to keep and bear arms.
>>55636105
Why not just inform him of the year? It's all you really need to do.
>>55633016
Get mad, France! Don't let them do this!
>>55636034
They were all worth it.
SHALLN
INFRINOGED
BE___T
>>55631280
well you dont want to be racist do you?
>>55630961
cause what France needs is more weapons for mudslimes. Great plan.
>>55636034
guess where all of our mass shooting have taken place?
gun free zones
>>55632803
Hey Great Kebabistan, Managed not to have your wild kebabs rape thousands of schoolgirls lately?
>>55631280
Yes, if only the police would have been disarmed there would be 5 poor innocent mudslimes more on this world :(((
>>55636352
See >>55634317 for the truth.
>>55635307
Obviously relying on the police didn't save any of those "at least 153" people.
>>55630961
Certainly better than this overall:
http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015
Most of these were gigantic faggots too, but generally not organized groups... as seems to be the case in France.
If you're not going to allow your citizens to arm themselves, at least require armed security at events.
Even two old security guards playing poker in the back armed with six shooters would have been better than nothing.
>>55636352
You think they bought their AKs at the corner store? lol Criminals will always have guns, the question is will you take responsibility for defending yourself and your countrymen or are you going to keep pretending you don't need one?
>>55634525
Big words, did Muhammad give you permission to post on /pol while fucking your wife?
>>55632654
Fuckin rekt
>>55631491
No. They must know. If they knew there wouldn't be as many bodies to cool.
>>55635228
Self preservation is not French culture?
>>55636655
Having lethally armed security at any event has a lot of perils on its own.
Besides if they were posted to go up against groups armed with assault rifles, you'd probably arm them militarily with assault rifles, too.
If not, what are the odds that they are overwhelmed or killed first or whatever and you have to rely on externally arriving police and military anyways...
>>55636256
>Stating the year as opposed to making a coherent argument
http://www.theonion.com/article/report-stating-current-year-still-leading-argument-35288
>>55636167
gee it's almost like that was exactly what I was trying to imply
>>55630961
OP is right
Too easy for these terrorists to get weapons
France needs far more gun control
>>55630961
So you didn't hear the based french guy on the news saying "shit,of all nights not to carry my gun."
>>55631888
>>55636167
Gun control isn't even very much aimed at terrorism?
It is mostly a measure meant to stop crime (including lots of petty crime where criminals bring a gun as "escape" / "bargaining" plan and relationship delicts) from becoming more lethal.
Terrorism is handled by counter-terrorist units, police, and the military if necessary. Also by secret service & internal security type of organizations.
>>55636603
I agree but what I'm saying is that gun control is not the real issue. Islamic terrorists in France is the issue. What we need is a concerted attack on salafism here and abroad. We need to secure our territory from the mudslime threat.
We can discuss about the possibilty to have armed french citizen (i wouldn't be against a Switzerland type of solution) when it comes to protect the population from tyranny or invasion. Even then i don't think frenchmen would go out to a concert strapping their weapons to their belt. It would imply an important change in behavior most people wouldn't want to see.
While direct defense of the citizen is fine and debatable (in France, in america the question is settled by the 2nd amendment, end of the story), attack is what we should be doing and arguing about. In my mind bringing that topic now is shifting the political debate towards an american problem.
>>55630961
Hello France, hello west, hello Europe! Welcome to OUR world! You know, the one you flipped upside down, robbed, raped and murdered freely, sponsored and installed terrorists to drive us out or to kill us off?? For oil and domination?
Yeah, enjoy your Frankenstein monster now motherfuckers.
Rude, delet this pls
>>55638761
>i wouldn't be against a Switzerland type of solution
Swiss don't go to concerts with their assault rifles, or solve crimes with these.
Actually, I think if we showed up with our AR unorganized "ad hoc" at an urban shooting with these, that would be very dangerous. Huge chance of swiss militiamen shooting at each other, or hitting unrelated people.
No, they're generally against invading armies... police would be called upon to handle terrorism.
You need well-coordinated communicating antiterrorist units to identify the culprits and disable them without extra casualties.
>>55639136
you're racist, being french implies you imply #allmuslims
>>55639685
you're looking at millions and millions of completely helpless people versus a machine gun in every other home.
>>55639685
Exactly my point. Noone goes to a concert with their weapons. What I was saying is that the debate can be made for weapons in the hands of people in terms of citizens defending the nation and not with resisting terrorism. Hence the subject of gun control now is fallacious.
>>55639685
>tfw people think you go around sorting out mysteries with guns...
>>55640578
oh yea, it's a total mystery. since islam is peaceful, who could it be?
>>55640025
It's still not an effective measure against terrorism.
It maybe works okay against invading infantry (we haven't tested that against the EU / NATO though). That is, if you have uniformed people. Or at least unidentifiable people clearly not from your street or village that are running around with weapons that wouldn't stand down and be searched and questioned.
But it's probably not good against some faggots who suddenly start shooting in a crowded area. Sure, you could start shooting at "probable" shooters prone somewhere, but that might as well be a militiamen like you as it may be the actual terrorist murderers.
You could try to scream loud enough to tell far away people to stop moving on suspicion of being moving terrorists, but do you think they will follow orders or just suspect you of being a terrorist yourself, or simply be oddly and completely be unaware of you because in a state of panic? Should you shoot then?
We are not set up or trained to act like an anti-terror unit. Don't have more eyes in the team confirming who might be who, no options to use non-lethal methods, and can't really advance on targets ad-hoc all that efficiently.
Stop mocking France and fucking educate yourselves. Charles fucking Martel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel
If it wasn't for this glorious French bastard every one of us would be typing in Arabic right fucking now. France has always been the West's strongest crusader against Muslims. In fact, in Arabic the word for Crusader is simply "Franc". Because the vast majority of Crusaders were French.
So today of all days put your fucking memes aside and show France some respect.
>>55642200
when cold refugees start invading houses this winter a machine gun would be extremely effective against a looting mob.
>>55630961
If I had a gun I wouldn't feel any safer because I'm not a delusional twat
>>55638685
>Terrorism is handled by counter-terrorist units, police, and the military if necessary
Gee what a great job they're doing. This might have been over hours ago if even one dude with a gun, some balls and good aim had been there.
>>55642688
We'll probably just let them into civilian nuclear shelters or school sport halls and hotels and so on if necessary, and they won't get cold and desperate enough to invade homes?
We probably could host quite many hundred thousand if we wanted to. It also works for soccer and olympiads and the like, with more luxury for visitors.
Very simple as a solution, and not bloody.
>>55643173
oh no, no no no. its a total shit fest in sweden. at the current rate we need a tent camp for 60 000 every month. the result of the tent camp project was 4000 beds absolute total.
>>55638685
>Terrorism is handled by counter-terrorist units, police, and the military if necessary. Also by secret service & internal security type of organizations.
>Prattling off this bullshit.
>Meanwhile his country gives every single man a machine-gun.*
*techincally 65% of the men.
>>55636605
Remove falafel
>>55643052
Maybe, if he understood the situation correctly and was in a decent location to shoot the shooters. But that would have been a bit of a lucky break to happen within the first few minutes, though it is certainly not impossible.
Might of course have very well happened quickly if everyone was armed.
Unfortunately, having a lot of people constantly armed comes at the price of very often having some weak-minded faggot venting his anger or his feels of being scared with a gun rather than his fists... and then you get these shootings instead.
>>55642949
OK enjoy being shot.
>>55637733
Gee it's almost like that's what he was implying in the first place.
>>55644107
>In a country where literally everyone has guns.
>Also the safest country in the world.
>Hmmmmmmm.....
Nigger do you know you are posting with a Swiss proxy?
>>55643783
Sounds like bad planning by the government.
I bet Sweden could easily build decent wooden cottage houses with plumbing, running water and heating for 60'000 every month if you actually cared to. And not even fucking care all that much.
Just a matter of using the power of being a first-world country.
>>55630961
#itsislamidiot Spread it around.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ItsIslamIdiot?src=hash
>>55644107
Fuck it. I'd rather have some idiot shoot and get shot than having to worry about my city being invaded by savages.
>>55633395
Everyone can if you know where to look.
>>55630961
or as Detroit calls it, Friday night.
>>55630961
Trump will save you, just hold out for a year and a couple months.
>>55644481
Gun but no bullets. Did you not know that?
>>55644835
Shitskins control both the drug and illegal weapon trade. Both being closely linked. You cannot obtain any gun from them if you are white, they'll just kill you and steal your money.
>>55644857
>tfw when France's capital is as fucked as America's worst city.
kek
>>55630961
Yeah! cause 'murica has prevented soooo many shootings with their great gun control laws!! especially in schools!
>>55645355
Hell, Detroit ain't even the worst. I'll find the worst, one sec.
>>55643988
> Meanwhile his country gives every single man a machine-gun.*
It issues a very good though somewhat heavy assault rifle. Maybe the world's best mass-manufactured variant on an AK.
But again, military invasions -which this weapon is designed to be used for- do not work like terrorist attacks.
Machine guns aren't generally anti-terrorist weapons either.
>>55645355
>>55645438
found it. i live in saginaw and it isn't really that bad. neighborhood looks like shit, but i don't really fear for my life.
>>55642949
muhammed pls
>>55645438
>inb4 Camden
>>55630961
>implying the people at the concert wouldn't have shot each other in panic if they had weapons
ITT: dumb motherfuckers that never, ever learn.
The West is doomed.
>>55645029
>Saved.
Thanks I'm assembling a collection of rare lies about Switzerland from gun-grabbers all over the world.
I find your hysterical lies about based Switzerland to be highly amusing, keep up the good work!!
>>55644481
The gun is
- Must be in a safe or disassembled in parts across the house.
- Its ammunition is issued in sealed packages, also to be locked away safely and never opened unless in war (shooting ranges have ammo if you bring your gun to train shooting).
- Ditto when transported from and to the shooting range.
- Not legally usable against crime in general, chances for a pardon when you shoot someone are very slim and restricted to extreme circumstances.
(The heavy kinds of) crime are probably mostly low 'cause of social security and good will, you usually have much better options for an acceptable standard of life than to rob banks.
Petty crime like theft happens at about a normal rate.
>>55645424
>Muh school shootings!!
>I respond emotionally to international propaganda!!
>I am literally a human sheep!!!
well, congrats I guess Nigel.
>>55645469
>totally irrelevant comments,
>which are "your opinion"
Do you have a SIG 550? Are you a Swiss army soldier? Your comments on weapons and tactics are literally the dumbest I have ever read.
>>55631491
Ok. Guys meet back here in 20
>>55645605
>Chester PA
>Camden NJ
>mfw I live right between them
>>55645760
Tell your army you colossal retard. You are literally doubling down on being a human sheep. I can't wait for more and more of these delightful happenings to keep happening in safe Europe.
I'm going to laugh more with each one.
>>55636605
Remove falafel
>>55646111
This makes absolutely no sense. You dumbtards think that everything can be solved by carrying a gun on you at all times though it has proven to do the complete opposite and as soon as I provide facts you call me a sheep? congrats back to you Daquan
>>55645760
>implying they wouldn't have at least brought down the attackers, resulting in a death toll much lower than one hundred fucking fifty
>>55630961
I have nothing against your unrestricted gun policy, but there's something I'm curious about : do you americans have a gun on you everytime, everywhere? During a metal rock concert for example? And do you think this gun can compete with a machine gun?
I didn't see anybody saving anyone during the last shootings in the USA. What I think is that you mostly keep your gun at home to defend yourself for robbery and that you mainly use it for sport shooting.
>>55644552
its not bad planning. there is no planning. before this crisis there was already a housing crisis. the day before we put up border controls the prime minister said we would never have border controls. sure, we could become the next Reich if we cared to and cooperated. I'd rather see europa stepping up and using our immense resources to build a new civilization and bring the world up with us.
>>55641073
Not talking about that but about people assuming Swiss go everywhere with their guns. The cold and emasculation are hurting your brain bro, get out of there.
>>55630961
Sure let's sell shotguns and rifles in every shopping mall in France, it's wouldn't cause 50 mass shootings in schools per year and multiply by 10 the number of deaths caused by firearms or anything :^)
>>55631280
Oh come one now, let's not talk about the black market. Those don't really exist do they?
>>55646981
And the assmad frenchman still throws punches at us freedoms
>>55646741
>thinks america's gun death toll is caused by people owning guns
>doesn't understand that its the insane amount of non whites
Once the mudslimes infest your country enough, you'll realize we were right all along. How can you surrender your right to a weapon when the leaders "protecting" you are keks who lead the killers to your front door?
>>55636605
REMOVE FALAFEL.
>>55631899
No, they were most likely around for a while. It's not like the surge brought in the first 20,000,000. France is nearing 15% Muslim, 20% is considered to the the threshold before all out war (or at least historically). France is fucked because of long running policy, the pussification of the real French people, and gun laws. I expect running gun battles in the streets of France and Germany by Spring. All out war when the Syrian 'refugee 20yr old men' cells are opened up. Enjoy Europe, you have done this to yourselves.
>>55646915
No - I carry a lot of the time, in restaurants, malls, lots of public places, Large events are usually restricted, so it would be unlikely to have one in the concert setting. However, that would probably have armed security, usually off-duty cops due to the number of people.
A handgun gives you a chance, an opportunity to return fire if you're lucky. It's not a sure thing, but it increases your odds from zero.
>>55646095
By your false and/or badly outdated information, I know you cannot be a Swiss gun owner of any kind. It's hard to believe you are even a Swiss male, or a Swiss female with any male relatives who own guns, or are in the Swiss army.
tl;dr you are a joke.
>>55647125
Not only that, but the FBI reports 50-90% of all violence in america is gang related anyways.
https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/2011-national-gang-threat-assessment
If we decriminalized hot black market commodities and instilled a pseudo-martial law in gang heavy areas, we'd have the same homicide rate as yurop.
>>55646915
>do you americans have a gun on you everytime, everywhere?
Yes, the local sheriff gave me a conceal carry permit. I carry all day, every day to protect myself from people with brown colored skin. Be they blacks, mexicans, muslims or "other".
> And do you think this gun can compete with a machine gun?
Yes. Machine guns are highly inaccurate if you hold them in your hands and just "spray and pray". A handgun is much more controllable.
Bonus, if you kill the bad guy with an AK47, and can get to his body, you can trade up and use that same AK47 to kill any remaining bad guys that may still be alive and hurting innocent people.
>>55646741
Look at this graph and tell me gun control made your country safer, you retarded faggot
>>55646981
Shotguns and rifles were sold in supermarkets in France up until the 90's. The only requirement to get one was to show an ID to prove you were over 18 but they weren't even registered. Were there many mass shootings at the time?
>>55638685
You know what handles terrorism a lot more cheaply and effectively than expensive units, police, and the military? A well-armed and well-trained civilian population.
>>55633946
Shit their cops don't even carry them. I seem to recall one unarmed cop getting executed during the Charlie Whatever the Fuck event. the ultimate pussified Liberal society. Enjoy the upcoming Winter, Spring, and Summer, by next Fall you will all be enjoying Ramadan.
>>55630961
How's your plane control
>>55633946
>but most french people don't care about that topic.
And look at the result. You reap what you sow frogs.
>let in middle easterns and africans at an alarming rate
>with a disarmed population
It was inevitable.
>gun control
>please don't buy guns illegally OK? Please
KEK
>>55646915
>I didn't see anybody saving anyone during the last shootings in the USA
Alot of those are in areas that are gun free (like colleges)
>>55635307
100% incorrect, sorry, but you are totally wrong.
>>55633946
>Overwhelmingly French people do not want guns in the hands of citizens
Good, good goyim. Just as our media, educational systems and puppet governments have brainwashed you to think.
>>55646915
>I didn't see anybody saving anyone during the last shootings in the USA.
Our mass shooters often target "gun free" zones like schools, theaters, and military areas.
As such, there's usually no chance of return fire. It's pretty easy to hit targets when none fire back.
>>55646928
That is indeed pretty ridiculous. What are they thinking...?
if my country ever becomes so dangerous that i have to constantly carry a gun for my own safety then i'm leaving.
>>55644107
It's a shame even without restrictions on guns you still keep the guns out of the hands of a vulnerable target which is why it happens so often in this county: children. You try to arm the faculty then the weight's on them not to fuck up with the gun.
What is the plan to have the first idiot who pulls out a gun in that kind of area neutralized before they can pull the trigger?
>literally just sat around waiting to get shot one-by-one
This is what Left-wing Socialist breeds. Impotent worms. Why didn't the mob just swarm the Muslims once the shooting started?
>n-n-no the police will come soon, you'll see!
France, get your shit together and go full Tours on these Mohammedans.
>>55631491
No! Let the bonfire of bodies light up the sky!
>>55630961
well there isn't a school shooting every other month, so there's that.
>>55630961
Kill yourself Riley
>>55647463
Indeed I did not describe everything entirely. Actually since 2007 most recruits no longer get sealed ammo to take home, only certain units... but it remains sealed still.
I'll also link you to a few things:
> http://www.news.admin.ch/NSBSubscriber/message/attachments/11413.pdf
Simple summary on storing weapons. Translate it. Weapon must be locked away and disassembled.
> https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classified-compilation/19950175/201501010000/510.107.0.pdf
Article 72 is the part about not being able to use guns except in very directly and evidently life-threatening circumstances, and only "as appropriate" and/or "if it can't be solved otherwise somehow".
Simply put, someone better be attacking you or someone else with a gun or a knife or such, or your case won't be very easy.
>>55636243
I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. CALL AMERIFAT AMERITARD WHATEVER I WOULD DIE FIGHTING WITH MY GUN JUSTICE NEVER SLEEPS.
>>55632440
Better than Katyn Forest worked out for your students.
>US got free guns
>Somehow niggers still on a killing spree
One of you really had to try to make it about muh guns
have you seen a bomb go off? no
you can relatively easy produce a bomb, plant it somewhere crowded and bring destruction upon people who never saw it coming
now explain to me, how would armed rednecks prevent this?
hint: they cant
imagine a guy came from behind you and knifed you in the neck, what do you do? reach for the heavily modded custom scope m16 in your holster or die on the spot?
the latter of course
what does gun controle accomplish on the other hand? it keeps guns out of the hands of sperglords with severe autism and crazy people
shit, i can be stopped by cops without getting shot because they arent paranoid that some guy is carrying weapons that total a cost of half the american defense budget
>>55647749
>implying gun ownership prevents the rise of islam
the city of you
>>55648021
>damage control
>>55647906
But the problem is not the disarmed population, it's the shitskins.
>>55630961
Will europe keep letting those refugees in? There will be more infiltration of terrorist sheep fuckers.
>>55649221
Your country has god tier gun regulations. So clean and orderly.
>>55635255
No guns clearly helped
>>55649438
>implying niggers wouldn't just use illegal firearms from mexico/south america if we tried to take guns from the people
>>55649593
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/calais-migrant-camp-on-fire-6830330
Nope, the fire has started. This is the beginning of something big.
>>55636605
Remove falafel
Pls gib pusi b0s
>>55649896
kill niggers legally without repercussion, problem solved
>>55635255
>implying that they wouldn't have
>>55639752
I'm glad this white-shirted girl survived, look at them hips. I wish I had been there to protect her.
>>55645920
Based Switzerland ? They're the kikest of Europe.
Because they own guns doesn't make them based, that makes them a dangerous enemy.
Anyway, yeah, it's a clever policy.
>>55646981
No, it wouldn't. Mass shooters can easily find a way to get weapons illegally.
>>55630961
Most people you see on TV after the attacks seem to be pretty calm and organized when leaving the premises. If it would happen in America you'd see a bunch of fat dumbasses running around screaming Durr muh god.
>>55650043
if you do that then you won't need to have gun laws in the first place because there wont be any niggers
>>55649778
Yea, it is pretty nice that our laws are often easy to understand.
(Well, the volume of laws relatd to corporations and trade is a bit big. But the laws related to guns and the military are not that difficult.)
You may also see that though mostly pretty strict, they're not always very strict. For example kids (under 18 here) can buy ammo and shoot it under supervision at shooting club events.
> https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classified-compilation/19983208/index.html#a16
(Rest of linkage is also basically all our civilian weapon laws.)
>>55650943
do you think all that organization, safety, and lack of violence is due to having a country of mostly white people?
>Reminder that the terrorist arrested this week in France before commiting his attack was desperately looking for a gun and had to fall back to a knife and a balaclava.
>>55630961
America:
Got guns, 2996 dead
France: Got gun control, about 150 dead
>>55650048
They just don't get it.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT BALLS
FRANCE JUST SURRENDERED TO ISIS
ITS HAPPENING
>>55651802
>>55649221
>someone better be attacking you or someone with a gun or knife or such, or your case won't be very easy
Do you assume it's different in America...?
>Be French
>Get shot
>Get blown up
Seriously though, this day could not get any better.
This is just the start Eurokeks, and will only end when you are all extinct. Get used to muslim cock
you deserve this.
>>55630961
Yeah because loose gun control sure has stopped those shootings you keep having, aswell as any attempt of terrorism in the US.
Oh, wait.
>>55651369
I'd say overall wealth, social security, (mostly) free education and at least halfway caring government are the biggest contributors.
You generally have the option to get education and work and at least achieve some wealth - better than robbing people and banks. And the minimum you can have isn't insufferable for most.
Reasonably competent police and generally reasonably fair justice system accessible to all is another.
(Usually revenge killings aren't your only reprieve and the state isn't really your enemy.)
But perhaps it's also culture to an extent. Don't think it's only the white people, though. The ideas what is right and what is not is usually very close for immigrant's kids to longer-term swiss lineage's kids.
Not that this is the land of cotton candy and everything, but far, far more people shoot themselves (suicide) than others, and most people can get somewhere okay in life.
>>55651802
Planes were a gun free zone. Look how that worked out.
>>55643988
People still don't go around with a gun. If the same thing had happened in Switzerland, the results would have been more or less the same because people don't go to a concert with a gun (they're pretty much not allowed to).
>>55651802
#rekt
The government has failed it`s people, arm yourselves by any means necessary.
>>55652536
>aswell as any attempt of terrorism in the US.
There was at least one that I know about.
>>55652810
Why didn't you just shoot the planes down? :^)
>>55651369
We have a larger share of foreigners than any non-micro European countries, and that includes relatively large numbers of muslims, non-whites and refugees.
>>55652536
Do you actually believe the media? They don't report stopped crime. They only report commited crime to push their agenda.
>>55637733
Wow you're pretty fucking stupid aren't you?
>>55653204
That's kind of irrelevant, though.
If they don't report stopped crimes (which they do), they don't report it in countries with harsher gun control either.
>>55651802
Last headline I saw said over 300 dead in these attacks.
Per capita, you're about half way to that US number from today alone.
>>55652354
Yes, some states have legislation where you can shoot when you're scared? Or when someone enters your property without permission? Or when they attack you with plain fists?
Not the same, really. Over here, you literally need to be able to see that you're very severely endangered and be certain that you are immediately getting attacked, and take as reasonable an approach to resolving it as possible (warning shot, shot in legs or whatever, if that is possible - you'll likely have to defend what you did).
Also, the standard is according what a neutral viewer would think about the attack, not what you thought.
If you misjudge a key held by an angry person for a knife because it looked like a knife due to the metals reflection, you probably won't go free.
>>55653436
>Over here, you literally need to be able to see that you're very severely endangered and be certain that you are immediately getting attacked, and take as reasonable an approach to resolving it as possible (warning shot, shot in legs or whatever, if that is possible - you'll likely have to defend what you did).
Strangely enough, that doesn't apply to security guards.
As a security guard, if the situation is dire enough that you'd take your gun out, you're instructed to aim to kill, no warning shot.
t. security guard
Also there's the asterisk that if you thought the situation seemed reasonably dangerous (your key example) and mistakenly took lethal action, the court will likely be more kind to you than if you just outright shoot a guy for shits and giggles.
I translate "I am the only one who I don't care for this attack ? Die while I eat my fries quietly in my bed" ...
>>55653115
They were being used as a cover for the armed robbery, they couldn't be shot down.
>>55654415
Pute borgne.
>>55633946
It's not about carrying a gun. It's about the other guy thinking you might be carrying a gun.
>>55635255
What did the police use? Atomic bombs? No, they used guns you stupid faggot. Any country that doesn't have, at the very minimum, American-tier gun freedom doesn't deserve to be considered a soveriegn state.
Hopefully france doesn't try to go into Syria and start shit since every French bomb dropped on Syrian terrorists would recruit at least 10 more.
>>55635307
>What you idiots don't get is that your precious 2nd amendment is not universal.
Except it is. Even the wording says that the right to bear arms is a fucking right that you are created with.
Stupid French faggot. I will enjoy watching the videos of you faggots getting mowed down in your own capital. Just stay the fuck out of Syria you piece of shit. You got what you deserved for your bullshit, now just shut up and accept it .
>>55654097
> Strangely enough, that doesn't apply to security guards.
> As a security guard, if the situation is dire enough that you'd take your gun out, you're instructed to aim to kill, no warning shot.
Isn't that for military security primarily, not private?
Anyhow, the "dire enough" will still be scrutinized.
> Also there's the asterisk that if you thought the situation seemed reasonably dangerous (your key example) and mistakenly took lethal action, the court will likely be more kind to you than if you just outright shoot a guy for shits and giggles.
Absolutely, and they should. This intent matters to me too.
But you don't get off free.
>>55630961
Shot in the back while offering surrender.
The glory of France.
>>55654415
>fries
Freedom fries?
Wow, that dumb bitch exepmlifies European decadence. You fuckers should just commit mass suicide
>>55635307
The right to self defense is a natural right. It applies to everyone everywhere, and is not unique to the US, nor did the recognition of this right originate here.
>getting a weapon is not that hard in France.
Obviously. Now when are you going to let your people exercise their natural right without government interference?
>>55656145
I wish Daesh would quit killing Europeans/Russians. It sucks because then you don't know who to cheer for. No one wants to clap to a terrorist but its hard not to be happy when the anti-American, anti-gun, EU or Russian faggots are getting put down.
>>55656647
Just a matter of happy Natural Selection. Little was left of France and Europe as a whole, after WW2 and this is just the death blow for a weak and worthless species.
>>55636605
Didn't they cut off her head?
>Was has not begun
>French has already given up
>>55631491
No. It only works when it hurts the most
All non Muslim French male citizens should be issued firearms
>>55633946
It doesn't matter if you want freedom. You have to have it whether you like it or not
>muslims attack france
>150+ people dead
>muslims attack the us during draw muhammad day
>muslims taken down immediately by security guard with no deaths
>>55656012
>Isn't that for military security primarily, not private?
Nope. Private security guards (those allowed and trained to carry a gun) are instructed that way.
>Anyhow, the "dire enough" will still be scrutinized.
Of course.
>>55657287
>muslims attack france
>150+ people dead
>muslims attack America
>2,977 people dead
>>55657867
Inside jobs don't count
>>55657867
Can't shoot down planes, m8. Point is, we handled a similar situation way better. Not only did we handle it, we antagonized it. We provoked them into attacking us and then wrecked their shit when they were stupid enough to try.
USA
USA
USA
USA
>>55657610
> Nope. Private security guards (those allowed and trained to carry a gun) are instructed that way.
Didn't know. But then again I also know some courier service's drivers also are instructed to drive too fast and long.
Maybe it's another case of the grunts being asked to take a hit for their company's well-being, if in doubt?
Can't actually find the passage in the law that says you can shoot to kill as a regular guard... just that you have reason to be armed.
> Of course.
You say that, but in the USA it may just be "thought to be dire enough" and you can be completely go free.
Happened to quite a lot of police plus some civilians including in some pretty famous cases, didn't it?
>>55658327
We did shoot down one of the planes though lmao
>>55658512
Without casualties, I mean.
I don't know how guns would protect against suicide bombers. That's a bit of a tough one.
>>55635307
J'adore tu, mon bien frère. Mas, tu sais il est ne sage pas de prétende que vous ne devez pas les armes.
France needs guns because the world has changed. France needs a 2nd amendment, as does canada.
>>55659210
Well you have to kill the Muslims first dumbass
>>55659526
So you just run around your streets shooting people that are Muslim?
>>55659210
you shoot them when they try to enter your country
>>55659827
I'm imagining a firing squad at the incoming flights terminal. Actually a pretty neato image.
>>55659644
It's honestly preferable to what's happening now
>>55643173
Which is only a temporary solution, as soon as they get too discontent or too many they'll start rekking shit anyway.
>>55644107
>implying I am not armed haven't gotten through some background checks and couldn't start a mass shooting at any given time not giving a fuck whether it is allowed to carry a gun or not.
>>55646095
I guarantee you most weapons are not in a safe, or kept as the law would require. I'd estimate about 90% of SIG550's are locked into the cellars collecting dust in a corner.
>Its ammunition is issued in sealed packages, also to be locked away safely and never opened unless in war (shooting ranges have ammo if you bring your gun to train shooting).
That's the military ammo they used to hand out.
What's to stop me buying ammo at my local gun shop?
>>55652746
I believe it's cultural, and the fact we're not being actively retarded by media and other factors so strongly. Lots of libertards and idiots but not that many complete nutcases.
>>55658415
It's common sense. you don't whip out your dick in front of a naked lady just be like "nah don't feel like fucking you". If you pull it out you must be willing to use it.
>Wachtdienstreglement "Keine Anscheinswaffen"
>>55646513
Cherry Hill?
>mfw born in Chester and left it behind to thrive in Fort Worth, TX
Only thing I miss is Yuengling.
>>55635255
Not having guns worked wonders. You're right.
>>55658415
>Maybe it's another case of the grunts being asked to take a hit for their company's well-being, if in doubt?
Possibly, it would however be surprising that it's part of the official formation. The company would also have issues if it comes out (in court for instance) that they are instructing their "grunts" that way.
>Can't actually find the passage in the law that says you can shoot to kill as a regular guard... just that you have reason to be armed.
It's not exactly that you are protected by the law, it's that it's the best way to protect your safety. And I think most people would rather go to prison than die.
If you didn't need to kill, you didn't need to use your gun anyway, is the idea.
