We all hate Muslims but how do we, collectively as /pol/, feel about non-religious Middle Easterners?
My best friend is from Kebabstan and his whole family isn't religious. In fact, his mother told me that she came here to specifically escape from Islam. I don't want to hate him.
>>55624705
I don't inherently hate Muslims, or Middle Easterners. Muslim or not, I collectively hate anyone who tries to downplay or justify the deaths of 140 people at the hands of Muslim extremists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7I63sRGsTw
>>55624705
All I can say on the subject is that christian middle easterners in this country are a plague as well.
They totally control one of our cities and the entire city is rotten to the core from corruption and nepotism.
>>55624705
I think one of the early ISIS leaders acting in a lot of the videos was Albanian or something? They definitely have several members of non middle-eastern origin.
Race doesn't really seem to be the influencing factor behind these actions as far as I've seen, Islam definitely is.
Sure there are terrorists of all beliefs, and there are several peaceful muslims, but damnit, for once, compare the number of people killed by muslims versus their percentage in the population ANYWHERE where they're present.
>>55625096
>I FOR ONE CONDEMN THESE ATTACKS
>not that I give a fuck about the victims though
>>55624705
Non religious middle easterners are okay. Been saying this for a while too now, but our muslims here for one are hardly muslims at all so they are nice too.
Since tho our musies here seem to hate arabic islam, maybe that is the key? Maybe arabic islam is just degenerate.
You dont see Persians or even turks do terrorist shit.
We'll see how we deal with them during the world war. I think they will end up being potential alliees. But let's remain cautious.
Im assuming he is Turkish. Maybe I have been lucky but they can't be compared with the Arabic apes. Don't get me wrong, I hate Muslims but I'll take Turks over Arabs all day every day.
There are seemingly atheist Turks in university. They have their weird German-Turkish mix subculture but they are okay people.
Go ahead, be a fag with your Dönerbuddy.
>>55626534
>Maybe arabic islam is just degenerate.
You dont see Persians or even turks do terrorist shit.
Pretty much this, but weren't the Charlie Hebdo attackers from Algeria?
>>55624705
I think there are beautiful people of all races.
every race has its aristocrats and its degenerates, culture and society regulate the ratio.
>inb4 fag
>>55626534
African islam is degenerate as well. Boko Haram, Al Shabab - loyal to ISIS.
Most of the Swedish citizens fighting for ISIS are somalis.
>>55624705
I'm fine with anyone who is atheist like me, black or brown. There still remains a problem. These terrorist are 2nd and 3rd degree children of immigrants. Their children might return to islam in spite of their atheist parents cus they have this fantasised ideea of that religion. We should ban all religions
>>55624705
Middle Easterner = Muslim according to 99% of white Americans.
Sorry.
Female here. non-religious Middle Easterners I trust as much as a ghetto black guy until I see how they carry themselves and I dont go out of my way to be around them. Why? Because almost all of them are total pigs who still will grab and be disgusting towards you. They are extremely rude and aggressive.
>>55629868
With all due respect Murrica, but I stayed in Portland and later in Austin for three months and I gotta say that Americans are by far the dumbest most disgusting people I've met so far.
I thought it'd feel like visiting Britain but in three fucking months I couldn't get used to the retarded shit that went on in the US almost every day.
>>55624705
Just like much of 4chan hates niggers, but not blacks, most of 4chan hates muslims, but not middle easterners. Most of 4channers who tell you otherwise (like the ones who will comment in this thread) are just trolling or kidding.
My barber is kebab, he's a realllllllllly nice guy. Not religious. There's quite a few kebabs working in their kebab shops in town and they're decent guys,good sense of humour. A few even have beautiful women working for them, no burkas, and they wear make up etc.
Religion is a shit
>>55630546
Well shit, that's because you were in Portland and Austin.
>>55624705
An exception for one is an exception for all.
They need to hang, the lot. Do him a favour and put a bullet in his head when the time comes.
>>55629868
>Female here
trap here, i confirm
they're the worst
because they still identify muslim
they're the ones who get offended at criticism of islam, not because of their love of mohammed, but because they think you're dissing their race
if these islam enablers put down the islam badge, it would make life a lot easier
>>55624705
Yes, but how do they feel about Israel?
>>55631015
Fair enough. What are some good places to visit? I'll be honest, Austin wasn't THAT bad. Just weird people.
>>55624705
Do they behave different? I mean are they rapists and drug sellers like Muslims in Europe?
>>55631041
>An exception for one is an exception for all.
this
>They need to hang
No, the ones that murdered innocent people do, but the rest just need to be deported as a preventative measure
>>55624705
The well-educated secular ones can be okay
>>55624705
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>>55631358
I haven't been to Portland personally but I've heard it's full of hipster shits. Hm.... Miami is pretty okay. I have some family down there. Pennsylvania is nice too.
>>55631606
>No, the ones that murdered innocent people do, but the rest just need to be deported as a preventative measure
Fuck off you Trudeau Mulcaire lovechild
Hang the lot, no exceptions
>>55630546
yeah you stayed in Portland and Austin, what a shitty vacation. America is filled with stupid people, but I'm saying brown guys will grope and push themselves on you and get instantly rapey WAY worse than a white guy ever would. I'm assuming you are not a German but a disgusting Turk or something else squatting there because you would agree with me otherwise.
>>55624705
I dated a girl who was from Iran but she was Bali or some weird ass religion. Her religion seemed fun an interesting - and she actually got in some trouble for it and had to leave the country.
There are good people over there but Islam is a fucking curse.
middle-easterns, freed by islam, are very western. it's in their genes. as long as he holds no positive feelings towards islam or his homeland he is perfectly fine
>I don't inherently hate Muslims, or Middle Easterners. Muslim or not
ITT:Falseflag muslim shills
>>55631967
>disagree
>you must be kebab/nigger/etc.
btw im a grill
>>55631140
More mad brown boys. Sorry you are gross to white girls and have to rape them, cry me a river.
>>55624705
Without considering religion:
Persians > Kurds > Turks > Arabs.
>>55631734
What about the Floridaman meme? Heard Florida is the special state of the US?
My housemate is from iran and we were drinking pretty heavily one night and he goes
Do you think I'm a muslim?
to which I replied
Fuck you terrorist boy
he then went NUTS and started raving about he isn't any fucking muslim and he left Iran to get some fucking freedoms
He's a top bloke
>>55625928
If you can't get your point across without going full-retard all caps mode then you shouldn't post at all.
>>55632476
Sorry Helga, enjoy those Kebabs!
>>55632832
>to which I replied
>Fuck you terrorist boy
>>55632476
>hey guys iam grill btw XD lets pray for france and not let this sad event stop us from bringing in more refugees XD
Kill yourself
>>55632984
>watch French stream
>that one single American girl involved with anything there starts talking
>switch to tab with stream
>100Kg fatass
Ich lache.
>>55624705
Don't care. The only reason to consider them is to potentially help them but our other problems are so much bigger that the world view of a minority of sand niggers.
I'm an iranian and my family is not religious. If you surround yourself with the right people, mideasterners are ok. I'd go out on a limb and say maybe 30-50% of Iranians are secular, perhaps 50-75% of the youth. Most Iranian exiles and immigrants aren't religious either, so please don't get suspicious if one of us comes to your country. Even hitler liked us because we were the original aryans.
>>55633923
Ain't nobody should have a problem with based Persians. You're not the ones exporting militant Islam. Shi'a Islam is an ally by virtue of being at odds with Sunni Islam.
>>55627745
North Africa has the same shitty culture.
>>55624705
>non-religious Middle Easterners
Get the fuck out.
>>55625469
>All I can say on the subject is that christian middle easterners in this country are a plague as well.
This. Sand niggers are violent by their genetics, not by religion or anything else.
>>55624705
>We all hate Muslims
I don't particularly hate Muslims. Speak for yourself.
>>55624705
There should never be a problem with Arabs, Persians, Palestinians etc etc.
Skin has fuck all to do with it.
It's Islam that is the problem.
I mean us Brits call Sikhs bro tier, because they are.
Hindu's are also alright, aren't really a problem. Maybe a tongue in cheek poo in loo comment here and there.
Indians and Pakistani's are pretty much ethnically the same anyway.
It is always comes down to Islam.
>>55635478
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>>55635246
>Sand niggers are violent by their genetics, not by religion or anything else.
There's an interesting Neuroscientist who recently uncovered he had genes tipping him towards greater aggression (i.e., MAO-A variant gene) and a family history of vicious murderers, but he turned out fine due to proper upbringing and experience dependent plasticity.
His deduced macroscopic brain activity, based off PET scans, showed similar activity patterns as psychopaths, but it's the mesoscopic level that really matters at heart, which no brain-imaging technology exists to show.
"He doesn't believe his fate or anyone else's is entirely determined by genes. They merely tip you in one direction or another."
Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127888976
Furthermore,
Nordic pagans, for example, engaged in blood eagle and sacrificial rituals (1, 2), but of course, you don't see this on a large-scale anymore.
Likewise, Persians did stuff like scaphism, near the end of Greco-Persian wars, and East Asians did lingchi plus other similar stuff, so I don't think it's as simple as places being less or more civilized now necessarily means there're less people with genes associated with greater aggression and violence. Persians and East Asians have had periods of prosperity and relative peace alongside preceding and proceeding tumultuous time periods.
It's a question of interrelationships and a lot of other things, but ultimately, it boils down to neuroplasticity and the general health of the brain. History has its troughs and peaks in all regions of the world.
>>55624705
Still don't like them, but they're a lot better than Muslims.
>>55636567
I'm willing to bet Norse societies were relatively peaceful even then, because Jante's law cannot have come about from thin air alone.
>>55624705
They're fine as long as they stay in the middle east.
>>55637365
Not really:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_rituals#Human_sacrifice>>55637633
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_religion#Sacrifice
Why do we need them? How can we trust them? Of course they exist and it sucks if they're stuck in a shithole theocracy but why is that my problem? Fix your own fucking country.
>>55637777
I'm sorry, but I don't see what that has to do with the relative peace level of society. We know that the Middle East has been in constant conflict since the Bronze Age, where as in the Nordics the population density was miniscule in comparison and the conflicts were minor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante
>>55637893
America has been involved in escalating tensions in the Middle East. You are allies with Saudi Arabia, the ISIS-equivalent a country, which was involved in allowing the spread of Wahhabi extremist ideology. Furthermore, the Saudi royal family was alleged to fund the 9/11 hijackers!
You have fucked with Iran with 1953 Operation Ajax, overthrowing a democratically selected leader; shot down an innocent passenger Iran Air Flight 655, killing 290 people on board, and awarding the guy who shot it down a medal sold weapons to Iraq during Iran-Iraq war.
You have opposed Assad and strengthened ISIS indirectly while Iran and Russia are fighting them off. Putin shit-talked your country about this recently.
If anything, American, you are the biggest knuckleheads of all. I advise all Europeans to distance themselves from the American sphere of influence. "Fix your own fucking country", you say? Well then fucking let us you goddamn imbecile.
>>55638723
>medal sold
meant to put ";" after medal
Shit.
> tfw 3rd Iraqi American from a secular family that has always served in the military and helped our community
>>55624705
behead all multi racialists
>>55638723
great post now explain to me how any of that means that we should let Muslims into the west
Why can't we just nuke the middle east. Just glass the whole region.
>>55627038
No, turks are degenerate as well. Never met a non-ape turk. All their "male honor" and borderline homosexual threats (Isch ficke disch - I'll fuck you) is highly irritating and disgusting. Plus their rampant nationalism, arrogance and non-integration is jarring.
>>55638632
>I'm sorry, but I don't see what that has to do with the relative peace level of society.
I'm making a simple point: experience dependent neuroplasticity is more important than genes. Hate the culture, not the genes.
Genes exist as a regulatory network. They provide more of a field of potentials. They do not dictate what kind of person you will be. Also that Neuroscientist had a history of family murderers, but he turned out fine thanks to experience dependent neuroplasticity.
>>55630796
mine is an Iranian Christian - had to move his family out of Iran because he couldn't take the shit the government gives to religious minorities over there. Silly things, like giving Christians permission to hunt wild pigs but punishing them for eating pork or other such stupid shit.
>>55639521
die multi racialist
>>55624705
Classic meme still holds true.
>>55640013
>Multiracialism is a concept or ideology that promotes a society composed of various races, while accepting and respecting different cultural backgrounds.
I do not accept or respect different cultural backgrounds. However, I don't care if a society is composed of different races even though I'm White.
>>55624705
Indo-European ones are good. Semites are nigger tier.
>>55640294
Die multi racialist.
>>55624705
I hate them all, first gas the kikes, then nuke the whole place from orbit
>>55624705
>I don't want to hate him.
Then don't. You people are starting to scare me. You're treating this board like a fucking guideline.
I HATE islam , but i love Shiia and all christian/athéist etc ..
>>55624705
I feel the same way about non religious shit skins as I do non religious pale faces.
>>55640418
There is no need to "hate" them any more than I would "hate" the last roach I stepped upon.
Simply exterminate them with a smile.
>>55640500
>i love Shiia
Shia is pretty bad too. It's not as bad as Sunni, but it's pretty bad. Look at how Fereydoun Farrokhzad was assassinated by IRI.
Sunni are very bad because of Salafists and Wahhabists.
>>55640582
>>55627038
As a turk I hate those cunts more than you do lad.
>>55624705
>feel about non-religious Middle Easterners?
they are fine, islam is the cancer.
>>55624705
Copts, Zoroastrianists, and Sikhs are the only people remotely Middle-Eastern that I would even consider could coexist in the world with Europeans and could keep to themselves.
>>55640355
I do not think you understand the definition of multiracialism, you fucking idiot. I am not a multi racialist. I've read my Evola like a good little boy, faggot, so I know the arguments against multiculturalism and I agree with them.
>>55627038
That turk from the young turks, even being an atheist couldn't admit that islam wasn't the best model for society and even defended the demi policy in the otto empire to sam harris.
Keep your guard up anon.
>>55640713
A smile brightens the day for everyone around you.
>>55640369
I think you'll find that once the kikes are gassed the kebabs will calm down a lot.
>>55640877
TAME THAT TIGER
DOWNONONOWNONWOWNOWNOW (air guitar)
>>55624705
Hate the religion, not the race.
>>55640877
Execute this faggot multi racialist, allowing or advocating for multiple races in your country makes you a multi racialist.
SHAVE THE FUCKING BEARD
CUT YOUR FUCKING HAIR
GET A JOB
STOP SHITTING IN THE STREETS
Then we're good.
>>55635246
White people are more brutal in their core. But we are "developed" unlike them.
>>55640294
>I'm all for a multiracial society of everyone accepting everyone who for who they are and I really think it can work
>Even though I myself completely disprove the theory that it can work by admitting I personally don't accept or respect different cultures
Americans, ladies and gentlemen. No doubt a staunch Bernie supporter.
>>55639521
>Hate the culture, not the genes.
Yeah, but culture isn't something you can put in numbers and measure, so if it's assumed to be a factor, we are left at a point where we cannot solve problems further with minorities who constantly fail in society, because it can always be blamed on this undetermined "culture". To me it's much more sensible to say the culture came from the genes, if the environment is otherwise fairly neutral.
Most of these things become clear anyway when people move to first world countries and start studying on even level with everybody else, or in adoption studies. It's clear that some population are still on hunter-gatherer mode in brain development and thus have trouble functioning in complex "agriculture" societies.
>>55641046
>allowing or advocating for multiple races in your country makes you a multi racialist.
We can't even agree or establish what are the different races, idiot. There's a lot of dispute there. I'm not a left-tard. I hate multiculturalism, but I'm not going to become a moron by arguing for racial supremacy and shit like that. Why are you so fucking stupid?
I found this guy on twitter
>>55641166
What? Are you an idiot?
When I say multiracial that has a mono-culture, I'm referring to something like Gandhara. There should be a common ethos that doesn't get fucked with.
>>55641387
>>55635702
>It's Islam that is the problem.
This.
The problem is most definitely Islam and not the race. Sadly, if you're from that part of the world you're 90% likely going to grow up with and under islam and embrace it.
I have a great Jordanian friend whose family is christian. They get the shit end of the stick all the time in their homeland for simply not being muslim. They all want to move over here and become Americans but the process is tough, and they sent him over as a student and now that he's here working for a US industry he's in a much better position to help them complete the move.
TL:DR its Islam that sucks.
>>55624705
If they reject Islam then they're obviously normal.
>>55624705
get out
>>55641281
die you faggot.
>>55641214
>To me it's much more sensible to say the culture came from the genes, if the environment is otherwise fairly neutral.
I already explained how genes provide more of a "field of potentials" or do "tilting". One can have a "MAO-A variant" gene associated with higher aggression but be kind of meek due to nutrition and diet, upbringing, and experience dependent plasticity. Likewise, one can have the Apoe4 variant allele, giving higher risk of Alzheimer's Disease, but if they take preventive measures or live a healthy life, they can avoid it. It's a matter of shifting probabilities. Also, Apoe4 variant allele is more prevalent among Caucasians and Japanese, oddly enough.
>Most of these things become clear anyway when people move to first world countries and start studying on even level with everybody else, or in adoption studies. It's clear that some population are still on hunter-gatherer mode in brain development and thus have trouble functioning in complex "agriculture" societies.
This is an oversimplification. Stuff like geopolitics, culture, and so forth all intersect in a myriad of ways.
I guarantee you there are Middle Easterners smarter than you. Look up Majid Samii. He is a persian and one of the best brain surgeons in Germany.
>>55641214
Is this done on white people alone? I would like to see comparison between Sub-Saharans and Europeans.
>Craniofacial Feminization, Social Tolerance, and the Origins of Behavioral Modernity
>The past 200,000 years of human cultural evolution have witnessed the persistent establishment of behaviors involving innovation, planning depth, and abstract and symbolic thought, or what has been called “behavioral modernity.” Demographic models based on increased human population density from the late Pleistocene onward have been increasingly invoked to understand the emergence of behavioral modernity. However, high levels of social tolerance, as seen among living humans, are a necessary prerequisite to life at higher population densities and to the kinds of cooperative cultural behaviors essential to these demographic models. Here we provide data on craniofacial feminization (reduction in average brow ridge projection and shortening of the upper facial skeleton) in Homo sapiens from the Middle Pleistocene to recent times. We argue that temporal changes in human craniofacial morphology reflect reductions in average androgen reactivity (lower levels of adult circulating testosterone or reduced androgen receptor densities), which in turn reflect the evolution of enhanced social tolerance since the Middle Pleistocene.
www.jstor.org/discover/10.1086/677209
>>55625928
eat shit
>>55641387
>>55641448
Average /pol/ack.
>>55624705
You're fair game when shit hits the fan.
It doesn't matter if you're a doctor or a contributing member of society. You're fair fucking game.
http://news.sky.com/story/1508512/man-guilty-of-lee-rigby-revenge-murder-bid
>>55624705
Are they still living in the Middle East?
Then they are OK in my book.
Are they in Europe?
Then they are Terrorists.
>>55624705
Muslim or non muslim arab, persian, etc. a majority of the time still hold many of the small minded views their non-secular brethren share. In other words, you are all the same.
>>55642061
I guarantee you there are Middle Easterners smarter than you. Look up Majid Samii. He is a persian and one of the best brain surgeons in Germany.
If you needed brain surgery by someone like Majid Samii would you deny his help on account he's not a White Nordic man?
He's saved many German lives, you nitwit.
>>55642244
>In other words, you are all the same.
Fuck you.
I know plenty of them that are alright, but they're still a baby I'd gladly boil and blend with the bathwater if necessary.
>>55642517
>they're still a baby I'd gladly boil and blend with the bathwater if necessary.
I guess you never left those barbaric ways of your ancestors, huh?
>>55642327
Don't give a shit.
Fair game is fair game.
>>55637365
They would be very in the world if that was the case. This is homicide rates per 100,000.
https://soci.ucalgary.ca/brannigan/sites/soci.ucalgary.ca.brannigan/files/long-term-historical-trends-of-violent-crime.pdf
>>55642710
I guess not, m8.
>>55641857
I hope you are not implying that cognitive capabilities depend on a single allele, because if that's the case the world's low-IQ problem would have been solved a long time ago...
In any case, you might find this video interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0_NsS1Zdlk
>This is an oversimplification. Stuff like geopolitics, culture, and so forth all intersect in a myriad of ways.
And that's exactly what I don't want - I don't want "myriad" and to leave it at any undetermined state like modern liberals do. We need to look for absolute answers.
>>55642726
You really are dirty pirates.
>>55642864
very unique in the world*
I think the problems in muslim countries are more hereditary than many want to admit, but Islam can in the long run instill those tendencies in a population and probably moreso than most other ideologies. I wouldn't be surprised if christian middle easterners are fairly dysfunctional, but if not for Islam, the middle east would be unimaginably better off.
>>55642987
>I hope you are not implying that cognitive capabilities depend on a single allele, because if that's the case the world's low-IQ problem would have been solved a long time ago...
You obviously have a low IQ if that's how you interpreted me. I said genes form a regulatory network and provide more tilting or "field of potentials".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_regulatory_network
>I don't want "myriad" and to leave it at any undetermined state like modern liberals do. We need to look for absolute answers.
Look into applied dynamical systems and stop politicizing everything, you fucking loon. I got my degree in Neuroscience and you sound like an idiot.
>>55641857
There is a big BIG difference between Persians and Arabs even if they're both from the Middle East. In fact you'll often find most of Islam's scientific achievements come from Persia, not so much any Arab states.
>>55638632
Population density means next to nothing in the long run. The Kowloon Walled City had a remarkable population density, yet very little crime. There's no shortage of primitive tribal peoples with low populations who nonetheless regularly engage in violent warfare.
I've known a few Iranians who weren't religious who were cool people. I knew two Palestinians who weren't religious who were also cool, but you've gotta figure that one of them was a CS major, so I cannot say that my sample there was at all representative.
>>55643302
I don't want to look into the politics.
A lot of Islam's scientific achievements did come from Arabs too because Persianate culture spread to them. The issue is cultural, not racial.
Regardless Islam's scientific achievements were not due to Islam but Persianate culture.
>>55624705
Still subhuman shitskins tbqhwy
>>55643505
>I've known a few Iranians who weren't religious who were cool people. I knew two Palestinians who weren't religious who were also cool, but you've gotta figure that one of them was a CS major, so I cannot say that my sample there was at all representative.
The point is you can make the inference that race isn't what matters so much but values, education, nutrition and diet, and so forth. Islam does not provide "secular values", that's the point.
>>55643287
You couldn't have possibly watched the video in two minutes, neither does it appear that you interested in replying to any of the points I'm making.
In your last post when you said,
>I already explained
It made it clear that you're here for rhetoric only.
>>55624705
Litmus test:
If they will piss on a Koran, eat pork, and assimilate as best they can, let them immigrate legally. Then send their personal info to your local Gurdwara, in case they relapse.
>>55643406
You are probably right. I wonder what kind of factors contributed to the creation of Jante's law, then. I can promise you this kind of behaviour has been around for centuries.
>>55634453
what about iraqi shias? those guys had to flee
>>55624705
It is literally just the Sunnis. Seriously, name one Shia terrorist group.
Protip: you can't.
>>55633923
Although I've known some pretty based Persians, I could do without the constant 'original Aryan' insertion into every conversation with them.
Most non-Muslims middle easterners are great people.
>>55628685
Atheists are weak and Muslims know this
>>55624705
They can stay in the middle east and spread their non-religious.
>>55644376
I don't know why you fixate so much on Jante's Law, that attitude can easily coeexist with societal dysfunction and violence. Just look at how animals could be treated in Britain and France even a few centuries ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat-baiting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat-burning
Yeah, Europeans have among the best treatment of animals in the world today, but that hasn't remotely been the case throughout time.
>>55643949
I watched the video.
The way critical periods work is complex. personally, I think if you rigorously teach a child on specific days, then they will probably become smarter. The issue is plebeian parents do not really engage their kids at a young age due to their values.
If you keep a rat dark reared on a specific post-natal day, they remind blind their whole life, due to their neural wiring not growing properly. Also, if you play anxiolytic music on a specific post natal day, they will come to prefer that music when they are older... If you teach a human child formal logic during a critical period, i guarantee you they will be far more intelligent as they grow up. You have to instill the right values.
IQ test doesn't matter that much to me.
>>55645276
>remind
remain*
ignore typos
>>55624705
I'd argue that Islam isn't the root problem. Islam is just preexisting sandnigger culture legitimized as a religion.
Your friend and his family probably cannot into democracy and western liberal values completely. If some bearded warlord were to rise up and command them to join him, they probably just would out of instinct. It's in Arabic DNA for sure, probably Persian and Kurdish DNA as well.
Islam can effect non doon coons with this mentality though, and should definitely be eradicated. But don't think because a middle easterner isn't a devout Muslim that they are immune from the Muslim pathology.
>>55645276
However, keep in mind, I am not saying genes don't matter. There is probably a genetic configuration in the regulatory network, that would be tough as hell to figure out, that would promote postiive neuroplastic change associated with critical thinking capacities. Probably in the prefrontal cortex areas and so forth, I don't know. Point being, though, I doubt the frequency of such a "genetic configuration" would be more common in a specific ethnicties of peoples. That's just wishful thinking considering there are many model minorities and so forth.
>>55645586
Go suck your pastor's dick, neocon.
I don't like non-Germans living in Germany, period
>>55624705
non-religious turk here. hi
>>55645791
>I don't like non-Germans living in Germany, period
Look into Majid Majidi. He is a famous Persian brain surgeon in Germany and he has saved many German lives. If you had a neuroanatomical disorder, would you refuse being operated on him because he's not a native German?
>>55645866
I don't think posting the ass of one of their women is the way to get on their good side, Turk.
>>55646033
>of one of their women
of a European woman*
Dammit, sorry for typo
>>55645765
Did I hit a nerve, muhammad?
>>55624705
I think the dislike is for Islam itself, not even Muslims as people but for the religion and institution of Islam which breeds radical groups and is a deeply flawed religion. We are in support of Arab Christians for instance and the Yazidi's.
>>55646329
Nope, you're just an idiot. I've encountered have plenty of people like you. You're just a mirror image of muzzie fanatics you hate.
How can a moron make me feel aggrieved?
I'm not going to explain your stupidity by attributing all to genes. You most likely eat, think, watch, read, and listen to shit because your mind is shit, but I do not think your mind being shit is permanent. With some self-reflection in solitude and proper education you can improve and no longer be a neocon piece of shit, Bill.
>>55646795
>I've encountered have
take out the have* , typo
>>55624705
I've been friends with some pretty based Lebs who can bring the bantz just as well as any other Aussie. I don't think we ever discussed the idea of religion once. They all managed to assimilate well into society without the constant guilt complex like most hold.
>>55647019
>I've been friends with
That's typically enough to stop people's racism because, as Schopenhauer said, people are self-centered and biased.
People are susceptible to the biases of what they directly experience.
>>55624705
Kebab was a productive part of western civilization back in roman times.
>>55646795
Arabic culture has been defined by raiding and endless revenge cycles since time immemorial. It's literally their culture to get butthurt over any little slight and repay the "debt" of said slight in blood. This predates jihad by thousands of years at least. Are you actually going to argue against this?
>>55624705
I'm friends with a bunch of Christian middle Easterners.
They're well integrated and sociable people, but nepotism seems to be a big thing for them
>>55629868
Show us your titties
>>55624705
>2015
>believing anything anyone tells you to believe, because someone told them to believe...
>believing anything
>anything at all
>>55647459
>Arabic culture
Uhm, the Middle East isn't all Arabic. Like I've said, go suck your pastor's dick, neocon.
>It's literally their culture to get butthurt over any little slight and repay the "debt" of said slight in blood.
I explained how Persians and Arabs contributed to Islamic Golden Age due to the spread of Persianate culture. Islamic culture is indeed backwards, but the entire Middle East isn't reducible to that.
>Are you actually going to argue against this?
I agree with you Islam is retarded, but you are oversimplifying things into being racial because you're an idiot.
>>55624705
They don't belong in Germany, they need to stay in their own countries. They don't thought because they want to escape them because they are the shitholes their culture created, and now they spread their filth.
Christian arabs lived here for more than a century and never, ever created any problems. They are actually one of the most prosperous communities in Brazil.
Islam is the problem.
>>55624705
Purge all non-white subhumans. That's the only way
>>55624705
You dont have to. On an everyday basis, the biggest number of heroes fighting Islam, are being identified as 'ethnically' muslim by ISIS. Save Chechens and other uncivilized popualations, I have always had admiration for Turkic peoples. They whent into Islam because of the usual promise of better loot from fachist organization. But unlike many other tribes who fell to the whisper of Satan, they took some responsibility for their fellow outcasts. Made the best of a shitty situation. They are still stuck with their forefathers decission. But they generally try to fix the shit Arabs produce... Like an addict who tries to help the very person who introduced him to heroin.
Islam can infest any race or creed, but he who bears no evil in his heart shall not be aflicted.
>>55624705
Most of the Western muslims who ran away to ISIS were non-religious at school/uni. Don't hate your friend but watch your back casually.
>>55624705
>muh best friend
>muh Mexican made
>muh nice black coworker
You are the problem, I hate treasonous scum like you
>>55648105
Stockholms-syndrom much?
>>55630546
>going to two liberal cities for vacation
Why
Purge the unclean
>Joining an organization that will kill you if you try to leave.
>>55632811
A lot of weird crimes happen there.
>>55648410
Better than degenerating your gene pool and making your grandchildren non-white
>>55647856
Yeah its not like Arabic are a significant part of the cultural fabric of the middle east or anything. I apologize, Achmed. Please accept my jizya and don't take my head!
>>55648727
It's complex. Most of the issues of Middle East is due to the spread of Wahhabism and Salafism, which started in Saudi Arabia, and guess what? USA is allies with Saudi Arabia! They even owed stock in Fox News!
Now go suck your pastor's dick, neocon.
>>55648959
>owed
owned*
>>55648959
Abdool, please. Your dirtnig opinions are irrelevant. You're nothing.
>>55648727
>>55648959
And oh, guess what, the Saudi Royal Family was alleged to be involved in 9/11! Isn't that crazy? Yet your nation sucks their dick by being allies with them while demonizing Iran.
Gosh, you neoconservatives are really retarded.
>>55649248
Are you a shill for Saudi Arabia, who're partly responsible for 9/11, because you realize I'm criticizing the source of the problems?
>>55624705
They're innocent. Citizens like you and me.
Why wouldn't they be?
>>55648959
Lol where is this neocon and pastor thing coming from? Lower-case a atheist who believes in a noninterventionalist policy in the middle east here. I just want to leave the dune coons alone to annihilate one another. If they need to be at war 24/7 to justify their existence, I'd rather they squabble amongst one another rather than spill white blood over their debts of honor that the west cannot comprehend / couldn't give one fuck about if they tried.
They are still racial aliens who have no business in white nations regardless of whether they are decent or likeable people (which most of them are).
Not even remotely racist, but if I were to rank races, Arabs and blacks would come bottom, without a doubt.
>>55624705
Muslims are NOT the problem.. its ISlam and its political nature that is the problem. It empowers bigots and extremeists in even the most humane societies. Hate Islam.. demolish mosques in you neigbourhood.. but not Muslims...
Attacking the wrong enemy does not help.
>>55624705
the problem is not the ethnicity itself but the act of mixing them up, destroying both cultures. We must preserve both our European cultures and our ethnicity... or we will all forget who we are and where we came from. Jewish and arabic culture are a hallmark example of strong cultural preservation.
>>55649525
>I just want to leave the dune coons alone to annihilate one another.
Then why do you give weapons to the ones you want to win?
You assholes gave weapons to Iraq during Iran-Iraq war and have meddled in practically EVERY Middle Eastern affair.
- Operation Ajax (overthrowing democratically selected leader Mossadegh in 1953 in Iran)
- iran air flight 655 - shooting down a passenger plane by accident which had 280 people and then awarding the person who shot it down a medal
- selling weapons illegally to saddam hussein during iran-iraq war
-opposing assad who is actually fighting off ISIS, and now only iran and russia fight them off. You indirectly strengthened isis by supporting rebel groups
- being allies with saudi arabia
Here's a thought: let Iran go to war with Saudi Arabia but don't fucking intervene. Iran has been wanting to kill those bastards for awhile now but won't do it because you snivelling pieces of shits are their allies.
>>55624705
One of the Jews oldest tricks is to make 2 foreign groups attack each other.
That's what you're falling for right now when you attack Muslims instead of the true enemy, the Jew.
If the Jew is dealt with, the Muslims would have no reason to enter Europe anymore, as their land would be free of Jewish problems.
The Jews are literally laughing at you when you talk about killing Muslims and only Muslims. You're doing their dirty work for them, while Muslims rape your women in the streets.
I am not saying that Muslims are good. I am saying that Muslims are not the biggest problem. If it were not for the Jew, the Muslim wouldn't even be a problem.
>>55650060
you morons also practically destroyed Libya too by overthrowing Gaddafi. I know for sure Gaddafi would be helping Iran and Russia fight off ISIS if he were still alive. Do you want to make Iran into a Libya also by supporting the goat fuckers Saudi Arabia, the main source of the problems?
America is the main problem. Everything else is secondary.
Quit selling your weapons to the wrong guys, idiots.
>>55650060
Wasn't my call to make, bud. I wouldn't arm a single sandnigger if I had any say in the matter because those butthurt faggots will inevitably turn them back on us sooner or later.
This may come as a shock, the viewpoints prepresented on /pol/ aren't really embodied by any mainstream American politicians. Just gotta keep our fingers crossed for Fuherer Trump
>>55624705
I don't hate them, BUT they are still culturally and socially different from us. If they don't want to adapt and integrate, they have to get the fuck out.
>>55650884
inb4 typos and such. Smartphones, y'understand
>>55624705
>itt /pol/ shows a soft spot for shitskins
What is going on here?
>>55650884
>Wasn't my call to make, bud. I wouldn't arm a single sandnigger if I had any say in the matter because those butthurt faggots will inevitably turn them back on us sooner or later.
But think about it, aren't the people who arm them worse? After all, America is supporting the ISIS equivalent of a country.
I'm making the point you're the guys that created this situation in the first place. ISIS wouldn't exist if it weren't for the meddling of the USA and strengthening Saudi Arabia and weakening those that actually oppose ISIS.
Look at Putin expose your BS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbZDyr2LkdI
>Just gotta keep our fingers crossed for Fuherer Trump
Trump is an idiot.
>>55651297
Seriously look at Putin explain how America indirectly strengthened ISIS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbZDyr2LkdI
America is equally to blame.
I agree, Islamic culture is backwards, but it is equivalent to the schizophrenia of USA foreign policy.
>>55624705
If they're good people that are perfectly happy to integrate and be civilized then I couldn't care less about their skin colour.
>>55651297
Not disagreeing that our government has made some retarded decisions. As I said before, I would never have agreed to intervene in any middle eastern affairs if it had been up to me. If there is no way to wash our hands of the middle eastern butthurt towards the west, though, we might have to consider a solution. A final solution.
>captcha: select all the stadiums
Triggered
>>55625469
this. the christians are just as bad as the muslims.
>>55652380
>Not disagreeing that our government has made some retarded decisions.
It still continues to do so though. It thrives off being retarded.
>I would never have agreed to intervene in any middle eastern affairs if it had been up to me.
You sound pretty retarded too from our conversation. Listen, man, you started this convo by saying, "Islam is just preexisting sandnigger culture legitimized as a religion." You then went onto give a racial reason why the region is fucked up. Here's a thought, maybe the reason you guys keep making the same retarded mistakes is because you're all fat imbeciles? Maybe you're no better than those you demonize, being a mirror-image?
You just dismiss all my evidence on account of "heerrr deerp we made a mistake, sandniggers are still the way they are due to genetics..." Well maybe... the same retarded logic can be used on you? That's you're all just a bunch of jingoistic boneheads exacerbating tensions everywhere you go.
However, I'm not this stupid to say that. Instead, I think think you're idiots due to American Exceptionalism and other cultural values. It's what led to the growth of this cancerous hegemony in the first place.
>If there is no way to wash our hands of the middle eastern butthurt towards the west, though, we might have to consider a solution. A final solution.
Suicide is never a solution.
>>55624705
Growing up a non religious Muslim in a strongly Muslim country must be the worst hell
>>55652661
Oh please. just as wrong maybe. But nowhere near as violent. Be objective. We can live with some level of Christianity. We cannot live with Islam.
>>55624705
I don't mind middle Easterners that are not mudslime. The problem starts with liberal filth. If we don't solve that problem, than we're fucked.
>>55652807
Well you seem to have all the answers. I'll give you American policy in the middle east being shit, so what now? Is that all you wanted me to admit, or were you hoping for something else?
>>55641387
>Shia
>RIP Saddam
>>55653383
>or were you hoping for something else?
The issue is not a racial one but a cultural one exacerbated due to American interventionism.
Islam is retarded, but each time America intervenes, it prevents the regime from being stabilized and making progress.
So yeah, I agree Islam sucks, but I don't agree it is based on racial reasons for all the reasons I've enumerated.
>>55631358
"Keep Austin weird" and "Keep Portland weird" are the city slogans. I wonder why you found the people weird.
>>55631358
Yeah you just went to really fucking strange liberal areas of the country. There are plenty of other neat places I'm sure you'd enjoy.
>>55653733
And I believe that Islam fits nicely into the preexisting Arabic cultural milieu that existed before Muhammad. And yes, I think that even a non-Muslim who grew up at that environment would be subject to those same trappings in regards to revenge culture.
Despite that one difference, we're pretty much seeing eye to eye.
>>55654595
>Despite that one difference,
Listen to me, fucking scum, when Persians where the global power of this world, you Northern European pagan bastards were eating shit and engaging in sacrificial sex rituals. Only the Southern Europeans, such as the Greaks were civilized. Now listen here, faggot, I'm not going to explain all your faults as having a basis in preexisting Paganistic cultural milieu that existed before Christ. You even admitted to how America is largely to blame for escalating the tensions in the Middle East by selling arms and killing the wrong nations. We went in-depth into this.
However, while I hate Islam, I am not your fucking kek, you imbecile. Regardless, I will not attribute your retardation to your disgusting, savage ancestors, and admit it, your ancestors were fucking savages, Anglo scum.
>>55655121
>such as the Greaks
such as the Greeks,*
Ignore typos.
>>55624705
I don't hate Muslims. However, I hate terrorists. Anon, you shouldn't hate your friend for who he is. Whether he is religious or non-religious, he is a person who is trying to get by like everyone else in this world. I know this sounds corny but all we got is each other in this world. By the way, France, we got your back and stay strong.
>>55655121
>I get the feeling it's a Persian based on context clues
>It acts like an Arabic savage, even taking offense to disparaging remarks against Arabs
>>55624705
They're shitty as well. The problem is genetic, Islam only makes the things worse.
>>55655527
Arabs are pretty diverse, just like Persians.
My issue is with you attributing savageness with race. Times change, moron. You probably have plenty of ancestors that were savages. Maybe some that were saints. Same for me.
I agree Islam is stupid tho
>>55635702
everyone knows this, but race war sounds sounds cooler tho.
islam is incompatible with the modern world, that's why this shit is happening.
>>55624705
I don't hate Muslims or Middle Easterners. I hate people who take things to extremes and ruin the world for the rest of us, be it any religion or ideology.
Why can't they just leave us alone, and keep their religion to themselves? Maybe there's something inherently wrong in the religion itself. Based on the fact that other religious factions aren't seen committing these atrocities, I'm inclined to think that way.
>>55624705
I have a friend from iran who is not muslim (currently goes to my uni) and is a kurd who practices yarsan(?)
He says that it is not good for his people back in iran, and I wish the best for those who are not muslim.
>>55655817
>my issue is you attributing savageness with race
>says this on /pol/ with an air of un-irony
Lol now I know you're just fucking with me. Literally only a Muslim would ask for exception to the bantz because he believes himself to be above reproach, but probably has no problem ripping on niggers in every other thread.
>YOU LOST BOY?
>SEE THIS?
>>55657171
>Literally only a Muslim
Now you're claiming there's a conspiracy? Are you going to say I'm doing Taqiyya or some shit? I'm not fucking Muslim, you idiot. I'm Mahayana Buddhist and pretty serious about it, but I do have doubts from time to time...
I explain why race isn't important here:
>>55636567 (important one)
>>55639521
>>55641857
>>55645276 (important one)
>>55657171
Is that what the college protests are about?
What in the world?
Reality has become satire.
>>55657171
That picture though. That's the symbol for Buddhism. If you were wanting a symbol for Nazis, then it would be reverse.
>>55624705
#yesallmuslims
#yesallarabs
>>55657450
Hahahaha
I really don't think there's a conspiracy here broseph. There's no taquiyya involved here either, a deceptive Shia would be more clever and wouldn't make such a blatant mistake. You are just a shithead middle easterner coming to one of the most openly racist corners of the Internet demanding an exception for your own people just because.
If it isn't due to Islam (which you have disparaged several times already, you don't need to remind me it sucks), and it's OBVIOUSLY not due to you being retarded, maybe race does have something to do with it? Open your mind, Achmed. Imagine the possibilities.
>>55626534
>Maybe arabic islam is just degenerate.
Yes. The language, their "operating system" so to speak, leads to this kind of thinking and behavior.
>>55657760
You got me there. Since the real shit swastika looks like, well, shit, I had to use the fake backwards one that comes up on an image search. Would've reversed it but I'm on a phone.
>>55635702
>It's Islam that is the problem.
Really? Do you see Malaysians doing this? Indonesians? No? Why not?
>>55657920
>a deceptive Shia would be more clever and wouldn't make such a blatant mistake
I'm not Muslim. What the fuck. I've been a practising Soto Zen Buddhist for a long time, but I quit after I dislike some stuff about that particular sect. I'm looking into Theravada now.
>You are just a shithead middle easterner coming to one of the most openly racist corners of the Internet demanding an exception for your own people just because.
Idk, a lot of /pol/ people seem to have diverse views.
>maybe race does have something to do with it?
We already through this you imbecile. You agreed America is to blame for exacerbating the situation there. You agreed the foreign policy of USA is one major factor. Now combine that with fanatic Islam and the regional struggle there, and you'll see what it is about.
It's mostly about Saudi Arabia exporting Wahhabism to countries surrounding Iran to weaken it and USA (the big dawg) helping Saudi Arabia, being allies. Now russia and Iran are teamed up to fight off ISIS, a mess produced by USA trying to weaken Assad. There are plenty of /pol/ people that understand this.
The issue is a combination of Islamic fanatacism and USA exploitation destabilizing the ME. Race has nothing to do with it. It's easy to become racist but hard to remain impartial
>>55624705
All anti-religious peoples have room in my heart.
>>55624705
The problem is that extremist middle easterners aren't under enough scrutiny from their moderate/areligious relatives and friends
This allows islamists and other extremists to hide themselves amongst the mass of innocents who don't do enough against them
Therefore, at the present it is dangerous to any western society to allow big groups of middle easterners into your society
>>55658321
Give and take Muhammad.
I can admit that American middle eastern policy is shit, but you can't give me an inch no matter what. This little exchange is a great metaphor for non-westerners in the western world.
>you: YOU ARE RACIST COLONIALISM PIGS. DOWN WITH THE WEST DURKA DURKA. Also, why is your wi-fi so slow? Dissum bullshit.
>Me: yeah bro, we fucked up. Sorry about that. Want some welfare?
>You: FREEDOM GO TO HELL!! YOU MAKE ONE CHILD, WE MAKE 5. THE WEST WILL BELONG TO (whatever faggot sect of Buddhism you claim)
>>55659217
>Give and take Muhammad.
I probably look Whiter and more attractive than you, knuckle-head.
>>55659217
>I can admit that American middle eastern policy is shit, but you can't give me an inch no matter what. This little exchange is a great metaphor for non-westerners in the western world.
I am not saying you should develop a guilt complex, you fucking idiot. I'm saying not to explain the whole thing as being based on racial reasons, moron.
Honestly, how much of an idiot are you? Do you even have a strong STEM background?
You do realize we agree on almost everything except the crucial factor of race playing a role.
You also don't comprehend anything I tell you. I could misconstrue USA's bad foreign policies as being based on your savage ancient Northern European ancestry, but I'm not going to do that. You guys have accomplished a lot since the 1800s. I'm not an idiot.
Times change everything and it's rarely as simple "heeer deerp race lololol". We don't live in the 18th century anymore where such outdated notions of race have a strong effect on neuroplasticity
>>55639482
You should consider moving out of Berlin Kreuzberg Kevin.
>>55659576
/pol/ isn't real life, guy. I don't disbelieve anything I've said in absolute terms, but in real life I don't just assume every middle easterner is a closet jihadi john. Learn 2 roll with the banter, it'll serve you well.
