>almost 200 people dead
>all of them running around unarmed helplessly
is it safe to say that this wouldnt of happened if someone had a gun?
If someone in that concert hall had a gun I doubt they would have been able to go from person to person and take them out. That's the bulk of the casualties so far.
its safe to say it wouldn't have happened if they had no mudslimes
Well they definitely would have had at least a fucking chance
>>55619317
Yes, if armed responders intervened in time it might have been a different outcome.
But there weren't any armed responders near the scene, apparently.
>more people dead than all school shootings that happened in USA this year
>LMAO ameriakeks enjoy not getting lined up and executed like castrated animals
>>55619317
Too soon, Dr. Carson.
>>55619317
Not even in your country can you enter a concert hall without leaving your gun in the entrance for security reasons as far as I know, so no, It wouldn't have changed anything in this particular scenario.
A kek from the New York Times will call you on that. Just sayin.
Yes, had there been some armed civilians in attendance it would have been a much different outcome. Why do you think only gun free zones are always attacked?
>>55620183
Lets also sum Charlie Hebdo, witch was basically in the same year.
The terrorists used guns.
Clearly guns are the problem and we need stricter measures to ensure it is 100% impossible to illegally obtain a weapon.
:^)
>>55619317
>is it safe to say that this wouldnt of happened if someone had a gun?
Yes.
>>55619317
Well. Name the last time a "Mass Shooter" managed such a body count in the U.S.
>>55619836
build wall
>>55619317
Exactly what I was thinking.
If USA had to take this many muslims in. Open carry would become mandatory for every American.
>>55619317
>have more guns
>terrorists now have even easier access to guns
>somehow people dont comprehend it
Honestly i think it would just increase the order of magnitude of this things, sure maybe some armed civilians can stop a few attacks but now you have waaay more armed criminals and terrorists
>>55621982
undercover mudslime confirmed
>>55622427
WALL
A
L
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>>55622642
>>55622427
They would have it harder to organize stuff like this in places that allowed every civilian to carry a gun.
The problem is that no country has a 100% free gun policy, there are always establishments that don't allow people to carry guns inside so things like this will happen against eventually.
The problem isn't the restriction of guns, but sandniggers.
Nuke the kebab.
Gunfag using those kind of event to push their retarded logic is infuriating.
"Hey sure, let's bring my rifle and my shotgun in this concert, i'm sure everyone will let me go with them !"
I'm sure that if the same thing had happened anywhere the result would be the same. It's a fucking coordinated attack in 6 different location.
the problem would be if everyone in there had a gun there would have been a lot of people shooting each other in the confusion
>>55619836
Shut it Mexico. You're next.
>>55623133
sure thing Jamal
>>55622427
there are more Muslims in USA
rekt
>>55623001
>actually supporting keeping your fellow countrymen unarmed after this shit
Go fuck yourself
>>55619317
They were probably combat-hardened operatives from Syria. They were armed with AK's, suicide vests, and grenades. Your chances of taking them out would be severely diminished.
>>55623001
100
Just remember that
>>55619317
this wouldn't have happened if nazi germany still occupied france, i'll tell you that.
>>55623001
And this is why French faggots and Euroturds, deserve to be exterminated.
>>55623755
>have gun
>terrorist looks away for a second
>shoot his head
wow looks like no one is acting under reasonable doubt
if they coordinated 6 attacks i assume they would bring this as a possibility
>>55619317
>>almost 200 people dead
lmao
its 40-60 you retard
>>55623530
>>55624081
I still don't understand how you people think that allowing civilians to use guns like in USA would've changed anything.
They will just target gun free zones then, and concert halls would be precisely that.
>>55623755
This...
As a Marine vet, I am pretty confident that I would be able to kill 100 people within two minutes if they were in a confined space like this regardless of whether they were armed.
>>55624262
Hey, Mongoloid. Turn on the NEWS!
158 and counting.
>>55624418
>>55624418
That's why we want to get rid of gun free zones
>>55624262
its around 120
>>55622982
>The problem is that no country has a 100% free gun policy, there are always establishments that don't allow people to carry guns inside so things like this will happen against eventually.
Meanwhile here they are debating allowing people to check their weapons at public venues (stadiums and such) so they can still carry to/from the event.
>>55624249
They weren't trying to take hostages, they were just running in and shooting everyone within sight. If you didn't kill him immediately then he's just going to detonate his suicide vest and you're gonna be dead anyways.
Your statement is almost as dumb as claiming a Palestinian is going to be able to stop a Mossad strike team from storming his house.
>>55619317
If just 2 or 3 of these plebs had a 9mm they could have stopped everything and brought peace to France.
/s
>>55624481
yeah im sure you would be able to survive even 4 concealed carry's aiming at you
>>55624418
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_7684728
Guns save lives in the U.S.
END Gun Free Zones. Boycott or ignore their magical signs.
>>55624249
as much as I loathe to agree with a kike Schlomo is right here just cap the faggots
>>55622427
Well then the terrorists would just choose softer targets, schools etc. Everyone having a gun is a problem already because of crazies, gangs, drugs etc. but in a situation that allows them to pull out the gun and fire back against a 5:100 ratio of gunman:hostage that might work out swell, a few will die anyway but not all. That is until the start doing dead men switches on their bombs so the whole thing is moot.
>>55621889
how about 9/11?
>>55624692
Its 120 in the theatre. 60 more died outside.
>>55619317
certainly would have helped
>>55624842
Why did you add /s?
Quite literally, if even five people had been armed in the 100 people in the music hall, they could have killed all the terrorists.
>>55624262
your info is outdated.
>>55624664
And?
>They will just target gun free zones then
You just changed the places.
>>55624689
>>55624849
I don't think that would improve the thing in the long run.
Yeah serious attacks like these would be less efective, but on the other hand you would have accidents related with guns and psychos trying to start a killing spree more often, even if they're less effective they're bound to be more frequent.
>>55625174
Wasn't a shooting.
>>55625174
>9/11
>Mass Shooter.
Are you really this retarded?
>>55625541
It was a government vaccine bomb deployed using GeeElmo crops, same thing
>>55619317
>>55619317
>>55619317
>>55619317
>wouldnt of
>>55619317
but but but there are studies that show people cant handle the stress and they shoot each other and they cross fire and only the police should have gun because the police is compatant and people are not and we would see less crimes if we had no guns and guns are bad so we need to remove guns why are you such a racist misogynistic homophobic hatemongering bigot anyway you disgusting me you kkk pigs are disgusting and we will all get rid of you love is love you cant stop us you are a closet homosexual anyway homophobes are all closet homosehals the studies show this why are you a closet homosexla you are also anti semitic why do you hate jews so much jews are good people truly i like them very much they did nothing wrong and i dont understand why you hate them they have suffered greatly in the past 9 million were killed by hitler why dont you just follow your leader if you love him so much lol hitler was a homosexual himself too they say he had african blood in his veigns it must be true because it was a study also why do you like nazis so much you would have been killed under nazism because nazis only accepted people with blue eyes and blond hair and they would kill everyone else because they thought they were the master race italians are not white hey why are you such a bigot anyway you know full well that the march of progress can not be stopped there can be no neutrals on a moving train and the train of progress has no brakes if you hate it just go to liberia its the libertarian paradise there you bigot i bet you are a republikkkan you racists are all the same anyway you are all boring and disgusting why are you such a disgusting boring bigot and such a closeted homosexuals its like you refuse to evolve why dont you join us progressive its 2015 i mean you have to stop hating women at some point in your life i bet you also hate it that women have full total control over their bodies and truly i can see you rage at this fact alone i bet your hand iNIGGERS
>>55624844
Having the element of surprise in a dark area where people are going to see a concert...
Did you not serve in combat during your conscription? I'm sure with all the raids Israel does you should know something about catching civilians off guard.
>>55624249
sounds like someone has been playing too much call of duty
heavily armed terrorists storm the building, you would be too busy shitting your pants to return fire
>>55625341
>Chilling at a rock concert
>Loud music, flashing lights everywhere
>Two dudes burst in behind the crowd
>They both start mag dumping 7.62 into the crowd
>Everyone panics and and starts running in multiple directions
There is no way to have stopped it once it started. Lots of innocent people were going to die as soon as those two burst through the doors.
>>55625540
>accidents with guns
literally a non-issue, accidental deaths happen from fucking anything
>psychos trying to start a killing spree more often
citation needed
better to have the population armed against such attacks, notice those kinds of attacks only happen here in America in places where guns are banned.
>>55622427
How's the gun ban working in mexico btw?
>>55622934
settle down Ahmed. You'll get deported too
>all of them running around unarmed helplessly
for a good few minutes, i thought you were talking about french people running around with no arms, even though they were dead
>>55624689
I always was against armed civilians but maybe it is the best solution. Maybe the US-americans are not all stupid. This event made me change my mind completely.
>>55625983
i rest my guess that they had security in place and would have notice if anyone is carrying AK's
>>55626292
>>55619317
wouldnt of
>>55626292
>would not of
>>55619317
>is it safe to say
It is safe to say, because evidently the french can't stop you from doing anything.
>>55626616
>he dosent speak american
>>55625541
The plane shot into the building.
>Be French
>Get shot and blown up
>conservative first response is "how do we stop this from happening again"
>liberal first response is "how do we stop people from blaming uslims for this"
Why would anyone put liberals in charge of their nation?
>>55625540
And?
There are some things that people should get off their fucking asses and see to themselves. Fuckers expect the government to wipe their asses constantly and even raise their fucking children.
These fucking retards are then surprised when their kid becomes a brainwashed degenerate land-whale, and then they are absolutely horrified that the government, instead of wiping their asses for them, proceeds to grab their heads and use their faces to wipe it's ass.
I suppose we can call these attacks one large idiot tax.
Europe needs to fucking burn. New York and California need to fall into the fucking ocean and Godzilla needs to get off his lazy fucking ass and erase Japan.
don't think it would have done shit, m8
i mean in a setting like a school shooting? sure. this was a pre-planned terror attack in a large concert/stadium with explosives involved, not some 18-year old edgelord with poor marksman skills
>>55619317
i'm not for or against your right to have weapons OP, but imagine this
in a crowded dark room with music blasting, someone starts to shoot and kill people, people break into panic, everyone is carrying weapons
what do you think happens next?
>>55626544
It would really be something if this refugee crisis brought the debate of gun rights into Europe and ignited more changes in favor of gun rights.
I hope you guys have open carry one day and fight back against these fucking invaders.
>>55627202
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv1cWoa-N_U
>>55627216
yes but don't you think civilians with weapons can take out 2 terrorists?
>>55626174
>literally a non-issue, accidental deaths happen from fucking anything
?
That's not the point, not everything has the same lethality, no one lets you carry knives and guns when you enter a club or a concert hall because people drink, dance, and stupid things are bound to happen, but with security and unarmed people you can assure that no one will die.
If you have a gun, however, no amount of security or bystander with another gun will react quickly enough to avoid someone getting hurt, probably killed.
In the long run, these kind of accidents'll happen far more frequently than full-fledged kebab raids.
>citation needed
>better to have the population armed against such attacks, notice those kinds of attacks only happen here in America in places where guns are banned.
citation needed for what?
And notice how these accidents happen in America twice as much as any other first world country.
More frequency, less effect, what's the point of having the potential to reduce the effectiveness of such attacks when the death toll in the long run is similar.
>>55627306
It will sort itself out. Here in Amerilard land our citizens have a better record than the police as far as accuracy and even discipline are concerned.
Hobbyists practice all the fucking time. Police "qualify" once a year then go on to shooting 9 bystanders and only hitting the perp only twice.
>>55627306
Everyone died anyway, literally couldn't have had a worse end than the one we got.
>>55627467
Maybe?
What weapons do each have? Who has the tactical advantage? Who has more experience?
Do I think a bunch of armed civilians attending a rock concert could take out 2 well-trained terrorist operatives before anyone else died? Hell no
>two shootings in France this whole year
>shootings every day in the USA
>hurr lack of guns is the problem
LMAO!!!11
>>55627870
>>55627796
i somewhat agree, i'd trust myself with a weapon, but i wouldn't trust the idiots next to me in a crowded concert hall with one
>>55627467
i mean a civilian is distracted watching whatever it is they are never thinking any of this will happen to them. suddenly you hear a huge explosion that disorients you and everyone around you starts an stampede trying to escape.
in a cramped classroom it's easier to identify hostiles but in a large theater i don't think even a well-trained person could react quickly enough to identify threats (who may very well be outside of the theater waiting for an opportunity, with better cover ground, and experience/coordination).
don't get me wrong, i'm pro-guns and fully agreed with my university's decision to allow concealed carry, but sometimes it's not that simple.
really, the easiest solution is to stop islamic immigration because that culture is more toxic than a rotting asshole.
I've been saying this for years, whenever promoters and venue owners allow firearms into music concerts everyone is safe. Anybody who follows hip hop and country music culture knows this.
I just heard on CNN that 4 were killed in a bar or pub. It's time to allow the drunks to carry guns into bars with them.
You know. To stop terrorists
>>55620183
please stop this shit. nobody here falls for the "school shootings only happen because there are so ma guns in america" meme
>>55627891
>>55628055
>>55628127
>>55628228
If I'd live in Paris, I'd feel much safer knowing I can shoot back at least.
>>55628428
so many*
fuck this goddamn tablet keyboard
>>55627579
>That's not the point, not everything has the same lethality
Home swimming pools have a statistically higher rate of accidental deaths. As do household cleaning chemicals. As do Christmas decorations. Etc, etc, ad nauseam.
>>55628055
>shootings every day in America
>2 shootings(hedbo and this one) resulted in more deaths than ALL our mass shootings this year combined
>guns used in france were banned
those gun laws sure helped, Paco. Helped France as much as your gun laws help stop Cartels
>>55628055
good goy, disarm and you will all be safe
after all, it's 2015 and nobody should be killing each other anymore
>>55628055
And yet France now has more deaths from mass shootings than the U.S. has had all year.
>>55628127
>i wouldn't trust the idiots next to me in a crowded concert hall with one
I would sooner entrust my safety to a well-meaning random concert-goer with a gun than a terrorist in a room of unarmed westerners.
>>55629211
^ the fortunate thing about this kind of logic is that it underscores the fact that all concertgoers are law abiding and peaceful.
You only have to fear who like music you don't
>>55620183
>a stadium with thousands of people all in an open space is the same as a few hundred kids spread out in different rooms
>one autist with a gun is the same as 6 terrorists (probably with training) and bombs
>>55626972
My sides
>>55628665
You're misunderstanding my use of the word "accident".
I'm not talking about a dumbfuck killing himself with a gun because he's a dumbfuck.
I'm talking about someone going to a club, getting drunk, getting pissed at someone and taking his gun out to shoot him.
That is something that happens regularly without weapons, you just can't expect to have safety when you have a place that serves drinks to people that carry guns.
No owner will want to allow free carry in his establishment because most probably he'll have to close it in a few months because of some murder.
>>55628917
>>55629026
Yeah, and the only thing that changed this year over all the time that France has kept his gun regulations in place is that now there are sandniggers coming in droves and fucking everything up.
Sandniggers increase deaths, not banning guns.
>>55619317
Maybe if you are Jack Bauer
>>55619317
Considering it was literally a slaughter, no shill can say with a straight face it'd be worse.
If everyone had a suicide bomb no one would have got shot...
I don't understand the argument "how can civilians identify the terrorist?".
Its the ones, with the guns drawn, that people are running away from and who don't stop shooting. Am I missing something?
apparently some of the shooting ended in as little as a minute.
not sure what you can do if you are just chilling in a restaurant and then some asshole rushes into the door and start shooting. are you really gonna dine with an assault rifle loaded and on the table?
Look at 9/11.
On one of the planes the hostages fought back and stopped the terrorists from killing even more people by crashing into a remote spot instead of the highly populated target. All without guns. Those were patriots.
Or that unarmed man on that French train. All it takes is balls not a weapon to defend yourself and others.
>>55630407
I don't debate that. But balls alone can not always win you the fight against weapon users.
>>55629746
>I'm talking about someone going to a club, getting drunk, getting pissed at someone and taking his gun out to shoot him.
Yeah that'snot an accident, that's murder. And statistically they are very rare amongst legal gun owners. The vast majority of gun murders are gang members murdering each other using stolen or black market weapons.
>>55630684
Not saying being armed doesn't make things 1000x easier but a gun would be useless if it was a castrated man holding it.
>>55630310
>Terrorists are the one with the guns drawn
>Draw your gun at the terrorists
>Someone else is panicking since they're not as disciplined as you and also draws their gun
>Identifies you as a terrorist since you have a gun pointed at a crowd (doesn't know you're aiming at the terrorist behind people, because panic)
>Is an idiot and shoots you
Welp. Although at least in France they can identify them based on color. In say, the US it wouldn't be that easy.
>200 people
>people
And that's the main difference between a European happening and an American happening. One has actual human victims.
>>55630957
assuming you are right and it will cause chain reaction
do you agree that fully automatic AK is more harmful than 9mm or .380 with 7 rounds
>>55631363
oy vey
Still less than 1 month in america (no cops included)
>>55630957
It is funny how often liberals use the "chain reaction" argument saying how the person who shoots the shooter gets shot as a shooter who gets shot as a shooter etc... when this has never fucking happened.
>>55630407
They didnt have guns on the plane, only knives and threats about having a bomb.
The train was a very confined space and it was a single terrorist. I'm not sure whether he even had a chance to load his gun since they ambushed him.
Both very different to being faced with multiple terrorists with AKs and grenades in a big open space like the hall.
>>55630847
It would be a murder with a weapon.
Without it it's just an accident that gets you thrown out and that's it.
And from where do you think all those stolen guns get stolen from?
And the statistics about legal gun owners killing people being rare are irrelevant because the scenario i'm making a case for doesn't happen anywhere because not even in America they allow you to carry guns inside a club.
>>55631363
I'm not saying it will cause a chain reaction where everyone shoots everyone, but in mass shootings there would be mistakes, because with a LOT of people running around in panic it's hard not to get confused, even if you are calm and collected.
But yes, in the case of someone shooting at a crawd with automatic weapons you might as well try. At worst there'll be 2-3 more people dead. At best you'll save a few more people from the crowd (because lets be serious, nobody would react quickly enough/aim well enough in a crown of people bumping into them to kill trained killers), which is still pretty good since it's more than 0.
you westerners are so pathetic that not even guns would matter
>>55621889
How about the guy in the Theatre showing the Batman movie? SINGLE shooter, 70 wounded as well as those dead at the scene.
>>55629655
Tell it to fucking Rotherham you fucking limey faggot. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF YOU STUPID NIGGER.
>B-but it's not the same
All that fucking backwards rationalization, for what? So your people can be raped an murdered? GOD was I lucky my ancestors left your shit behind. Shit isn't going great over here, but at least we still have some real men left ready to lay down fire and lives.
>>55627891
>bunch of armed citizens
>Two(2) trained terrorists.
Are you really this retarded senpai. Numbers increase combat effectiveness, even if they only have a basic sense of combat. They'd make the 2 shitskins have to take cover in a hail of bullets. Being well trained doesn't give them bullet immunity.
>>55623963
This man does have a point.
>>55620945
Let's count everything, whether they are separate incidents or not, related or not,...
>>55621475
You don't get it, we know that.
>>55631934
>And from where do you think all those stolen guns get stolen from?
Well, the ATF put millions on the stree when they sold them to the cartels and gangs in order to "track" them, then lost them, then lost the money...
A number also go missing from the police and the military.
>And the statistics about legal gun owners killing people being rare are irrelevant because the scenario i'm making a case for doesn't happen anywhere because not even in America they allow you to carry guns inside a club.
Because you can only get drnk and angry at a club...
>>55632919
>>55632864
>>55632687
You gotta step your game up, Ausfag.
>>55619317
god dammit ISIS.. Stop nickel & diming around, and just set of a thermo-nuke in the heart of Tel Aviv already..
>>55622982
The problem is that the problem is more complicated, and hence needs a more complicated solution, than your answer.
"For every human problem, there is an answer that is easy, obvious and wrong."
>>55633040
>stree
*street
>>55624842
You have experience of trying to shoot with accuracy win the middle of a riot?
I'm sure the circumstances could have been mitigated, but the terrorists rolled natural twenties for initiative so they were going to get the element of surprise. All you need is that, people reacting and hauling ass away from the scene, and it's chaos. Imagine the feeling of having a CCW, being there, you instinctively draw your weapon and try to get to a safe vantage point, and it's just a clusterfuck all around you, people running around, people dying. Unless you're grizzled as all fuck, chances are you'd probably proceed to go "oh God what the fuck" and just freeze up and be impaired in your ability to effectively react.
>>55633142
Odd. I rather thought YOU had to bring a better game (better than "arm everyone, we'll be safe" meme).
If New Yorkers were allowed to open carry Stingers 9/11 would have never happened. All terrorism can be prevented with guns.
>>55633953
>implying it's a meme
The real meme here is
>ban guns = ban crime
>ban guns = ban shootings
>ban guns = ban bad things
>>55630077
Shut up faggot. You cant even defend yourself with sticks when the terrorists attack you.
>>55619317
Let's see what Sanders supporters have to say about that.
>>55632734
On what planet is any of that shit you posted (which largely I agree with) relevant to my post or this thread whatsoever?
>>55624418
>I still don't understand how you people think that allowing civilians to use guns like in USA would've changed anything.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/03/at-least-2-shot-outside-muhammad-art-exhibit-in-texas/26849897/
>Organizers of the “Muhammad Art Exhibit and Contest” said the event was to promote freedom of expression. They offered a $10,000 prize for the best artwork or cartoon depicting the Prophet, as well as a $2,500 “People’s Choice Award.”
>Depictions of the Prophet Mohammad are viewed as offensive in Islam, and Western art that portrays the Prophet has angered Muslims and provoked threats and attacks from radicals.
>In Sunday’s incident, the two suspects drove up to the building as the event was ending, and opened fire with automatic rifles at an unarmed security officer, striking him in the leg, police and city officials said.
>Garland police officers who were assisting with security returned fire, killing both suspects, a police spokesman said.
>One of the suspects, after being initially wounded by police gunfire, was seen reaching for a backpack and was shot again and killed, Garland Mayor Douglas Athas told CNN.
>The security officer was treated at a local hospital and later released, Harn said. No one else was injured.
>>55635145
These people really think life is a nickelodeon’s cartoon where everywhere is always screaming retards.
>>55624418
>Guns wont stop terrorists
>I mean sure, they wont attack people they would have attacked if the people did not have guns
>But trust me guns dont work
Spaniard, pls go.
>>55626236
There's a gun ban?
*shoots his cousin by accident*
>>55624418
>I still don't understand how you people think that allowing civilians to use guns like in USA would've changed anything
Your countries education system is working perfectly..
>>55634617
Banning guns does help to prevent casualties though. It just depends on how strongly the law on your country is reinforced. For example, it's useless to ban guns on Brazil because no one respects the law here and the government does a piss poor job in punishing the people who break it. However, in Japan guns are actually extremely hard to get, even for criminals, and the Japanese government will really apply harsh punishments to anyone who is illegally carrying them.
I think that France's immigration laws are much more at fault than their laws on gun control.
>>55633040
>Because you can only get drnk and angry at a club...
Well, the point is that if you get drunk and kill someone in the street nothing's gonna happen, your ass goes to jail and the street is still there.
If you kill someone in a club the club will most probably close, so no owner would really want to allow any drunkard that gets inside to carry a gun, it would be awful publicity.
About the other thing I won't answer because I don't have statistics about that and I'm not going to search them since I'm going to sleep, I fully admit that I might've been mistaken, I correct myself.
>>55635275
That's not really relevant because the ones that stopped the attack were police officers.
Were talking about civilians carrying guns, not the police.
I'm not denying that allowing civilians to carry guns would reduce the effectivenes of these attacks, what I'm arguing is if in the long run you won't get a similar death toll because of the increase in gun related crimes.
>>55621982
>>55623133
>implying any educated, not poor mexican would move to your shitty country
>>55636354
It'll stop gun crime, sure
>Ban swimming pools
>Suddenly fewer swimming pool drownings
>>55636354
this desu
>>55636373
But spain man, you have been talking out of your ass this whole time. Use a time series regression model to prove that the rate of reduction of deaths from mass shootings and the increase from general gun ownership is the same.
You have nothing but vauge worthless gut feelings otherwise.
>>55619317
> almost 200 dead
In ten years you will write 6 million
>>55636602
I said that it helps to prevent casualties if the law is actually reinforced, not that it'll prevent all crimes from happening.
Also, I forgot to mention but it also depends on the mentality/behavior/culture of the people from your country.
>>55636373
>If you kill someone in a club the club will most probably close
>>55636373
>That's not really relevant because the ones that stopped the attack were police officers.
Oh, there are hundreds of "average american joe saves lives with his gun" storieshttp://clashdaily.com/2015/03/hero-with-a-gun-passerby-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops-slaughter-in-philly/
http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/burglary-suspect-in-texas-calls-911-calls-for-help-as-homeowner-held-him-at-gunpoint/
>what I'm arguing is if in the long run you won't get a similar death toll because of the increase in gun related crimes.
See: Switzerland. They love guns almost as much as Americans. The difference is, they have some mandatory gun training for the population starting at 12yrd old or some shit, so I think their gun related crime is way lower.
so whats the status on paris right now.
are the shooters dead?
im on my office so i cannot watch news and the internet is just a fucking chaos of news reports right now.
>>55637637
>See: Switzerland. They love guns almost as much as Americans. The difference is, they have no niggers, so I think their gun related crime is way lower.
ftfy
>>55637850
How do you fuck up that badly that you fucking shoot yourself in the chest when you try to rob a dude
>>55619317
>wouldn't of
>Americans in charge of English
>>55637883
150+ dead. Most shooters dead, some still on the loose.
>>55638205
Plus the entire nation of France closed.
>>55619317
>Eagles of Death Metal
the crowd got off easy.
>>55637850
Is that real?
>>55619317
But OP, it was a gun free zone.
France just needs to do a better job letting the terrorists know that guns aren't allowed.
>>55638406
>Is that real?
Documentingreality.com does NOT post "nice" things.....
>>55638002
>How do you fuck up that badly that you fucking shoot yourself in the chest when you try to rob a dude.
Perhaps he misunderstood the manual of arms for his weapon (pic)....
>200
i guess the thousands that die every year because the US allows guns is irrelevant huh? fucking hypocrites.
>>55625174
The planes were hijacked with knives, just so you know germany.
>be french
>make fun of americans getting shot
>be against giving guns to civilians
>this happens
2nd amendment & stand your ground laws for my country NOW.
>200 against 2
>150 killed
WHERE ARE YOUR GUTS FUCKING FRENCH LIBERALS??
>>55639639
>2nd amendment & stand your ground laws for my country NOW.
YES!!!!!!!!
18-1-704.5. Use of deadly physical force against an intruder
(1) The general assembly hereby recognizes that the citizens of Colorado have a right to expect absolute safety within their own homes.
(2) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 18-1-704, any occupant of a dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another person when that other person has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, and when the occupant has a reasonable belief that such other person has committed a crime in the dwelling in addition to the uninvited entry, or is committing or intends to commit a crime against a person or property in addition to the uninvited entry, and when the occupant reasonably believes that such other person might use any physical force, no matter how slight, against any occupant.
(3) Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (2) of this section shall be immune from criminal prosecution for the use of such force.
(4) Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (2) of this section shall be immune from any civil liability for injuries or death resulting from the use of such force.
>>55639406
can i get the demographics on those thousands?
do law abiding gun owners commit those murders? waiting.
>>55626151
This. Nobody ever thinks about the circumstances of these shootings like this.
>>55626151
>Chilling at a rock concert
>Chilling at a "eagles of death metal" concert
nothing to see here folks, move along
>>55635145
link?
>>55640106
This is the sad truth of it.....
>>55639960
Laugh all you want but
This shit wouldn't happen if we had a bunch of guns obsessed rednecks who /conceal carry/. Someone would at least intervene and tear a new one to Muhammad and the victim count would still be in double digit at WORST.
>>55640695
So no, then.
>>55626151
>150 people were going to die anyway
>even a handful of people returning fire would have given a good chance to the terrorists ducking rather than just slaughtering everyone
>>55619317
>eagles of death metal
I cant even listen to a whole video of their shit on youtube much less PAY to listen to that crap.
good riddance
>>55619317
i think its safe to say we will be blamed for europoors being shitters and then the lot will bitch about us not saving them or some dumb shit; all while allowing more subhuman mudshits in and enjoying the Dick from their bulls.
seriously, europe is dead, just bomb the containment sites now.
>>55640712
It really only takes on great person to mess up a killing....
>>55640712
This shit wouldn't have happened if you had not let everybody and their mothers from the former colonies to establish themselves in the Metropolitan area.
Just sayin'
Was it really hostage situation? It sounded like mass execution.
>>55640585
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/3sq5fo/can_we_please_have_a_serious_discussion_about/
>>55639639
>be against giving guns to civilians
So you were a retard and you needed 160 deaths to understand your retardation? Better than nothing I guess, some retards still don't get it.
>>55641338
I hope this guy didn't die
>>55641338
That looks like less a shooting (as in multiple homicide) and more just a regular homicide for which revenge was obtained before death.
>>55641210
Help us nigger ridden country #1. We need your help around once again, just like in ww2. Please make 10/10 suggestions.
>>55624418
remember the charlie hebdo thing that happened in texas?
that's what we're talking about
>>55641721
I hope you realize it was Britain that imported many niggers here before we declared independence.. We didn't invent slavery, we got stuck with it... Its one of those little factoids of history that people overlook.
>>55641721
We are here for you!
>>55641817
underrated post is underrated.
>>55619836
you're next filthy invader multi racialist
>ban guns! that will stop the violence!
liberals are such fucking morons
>>55632259
>westerners
you saying it to yourself too, portugalson
>>55622427
no mames maldito maricon, suicidate
>>55642017
That's strangely heartwarming, thinking that we used to just have gunraisers for britain.
It must be more than just a bit little difficult for stupid lazy sheep to understand the concept of defending themselves..................
>>55642930
>that very last momemt
>>55622427
says the guy whose country outlawed private ownership, yet the cartels run the shit down there
>>55641721
As much as you'd like to hate us, we are actually here for you frogbro. We can beat them. You just have to help us help you.
>>55619317
>200
Who cares? If I told you there was around an average of 240 alcohol related deaths today in the usa alone, and there will be another 240 tomorrow, the next, and so on, with 4 of those deaths being children this week, would you even bat an eye? Would you care to discuss or find countermeasures?
200 is nothing.
>>55643778
We have very old plans still in place to airdrop literally millions of guns and ammo to the citizens of an occupied country...
Why does it feel like this was the biggest terrorist attack since 9/11 yet it's already losing traction and and interest when it hasn't even been 24 hours yet? Will the French get angry when they wake up or shrug it off?
>>55619317
If we had weapons, they would have blown up the Eiffel Tower instead, 9/11 style.
Possibilities of massacring and terrorizing people are countless.
>>55644361
We're fucking tired, anon.
This terrorism shit's been going on for fifteen fucking years.
>>55644361
Because it didn't happen to America, honestly.
It's such a gargantuan event and frankly in a year's time nobody will give a shit, I doubt the remembrance ceremony will even be anything significant.
Americans don't forgive and don't forget, as cheesy as it may sound. The French are just accepting this like "whatever man we're fucked with 10 million Muslims here anyway, what the fuck can we do lol" and try to move on.
Another major contribution is the left keks in there who are quick to sweep these things under the rug.
>>55631769
You know their logic is wonky when they're worried about crazy conservatives accidentally shooting other crazy conservatives.
>>55644593
>terrorism started 15 years ago
What?
>>55644361
Unlike the 9/11 attacks, these attacks were expected, for this syrian/arab/african shit is heating up uncontrollably for 4 years now and our stupid government keeps trying to fix what's broken by design. There is no sadness nor surprise anymore, just anger or resignation.
>>55644878
People didn't really give a shit about it until 2001.
>>55619317
#itsislamidiot Spread it around.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ItsIslamIdiot?src=hash
>>55623963
Mah fellow Arier
A few Breiviks fucking up the Mudslime camps would be pretty buff :°>
>>55624418
Someone comes running in with a gun as soon as they hear what the fuck is going on...but sure keep yourself unarmed you dumb fucks
>>55626060
Really? because army service is mandatory here.
Do you know how often citizens and young soldiers have taken out armed terrorists?
Just recently in the current terror wave, 2 young female borderguard soldiers were ran over by a pali, who then came out of the car to execute them - one of them was heavily wounded, but her friend shot him dead on the stop.
She was a complete rookie, a female, less than 20yo.
No one who did real army service here shits his pants when facing a terrorist if he got the means to retaliate.
>>55646299
I'm crying tears of burgers here. You jews are alright in my book.
