What are we closer to ?
Brave new world or 1984?
kafka's "the trial"
Smart New World for Sure.
Brave new world.
read the book my senior year in high school and wrote an essay why but i forget why. If you want, I can find the essay it's probably on google docs
>>55572682
a terrible mix of both
brave new world
>>55572797
This.
>>55572682
WE LIVE IN A MIX OF BOTH. SHITS FUCKED.
>>55572797
/thread
>>55572766
Find it.
Neither, both books portray futures resulting from trends the authors are weary of and extrapolated to ridiculous degrees. The world has progressed beyond anything the two could have imagined.
>>55572682
Trending towards 1984 at this point. Thoughtcrime and doublethink have been embraced by an increasingly growing amount of authoritarians that openly speak of suppressing human rights for the sake of 'tolerance' and 'multiculturalism'. The government doesn't give a damn about trying to put up a facade of sincerity and innocence anymore because they know millions will defend their every action and will drag the rest down in trivial debates until opposing these actions constitutes hate speech, now a crime.
>>55572996
To be fair senpai we still haven't started mass cloning a slave cast yet.
1984
brave new world starts with a laboratory where children are grown and nurtured into different classes
The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt.
perfectly outlines what is happening today.
>>55572682
the english are more 1984, and the americans bnw.
the europeans are also affected but less
>>55573388
>says germany
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/12/berlin-police-raid-10-sites-in-german-capital-in-crackdown-on-online-anti/
>>55572682
50/50
i haven't read it but bnw for sure senpai
>>55572682
It's a little funny they relate Brave New World to Fascism, the two are talking about completely different things here.
Remember that these two were contemporaries and they both corresponded with one another to the effect 'your version is silly the world will look like this'.
Orwell was taking pot shots at Brave New World before 1984 was even published let alone finished.
>>55572797
This
Some aborted cumstain of the 2
>>55572682
What about "We"? This novel is not as famous as BNW or 1984, but it perfectly describes morden society, I think.
>>55574319
>George Orwell believed that Brave New World must have been partly derived from the novel We by Yevgeny Zamyatin.[10] However, in a 1962 letter, Huxley says that he wrote Brave New World long before he had heard of We.[11] According to We translator Natasha Randall, Orwell believed that Huxley was lying.[12]
>>55573109
>and you get a non specialized degree
>and you get a non specialized degree
>and you get a non specialized degree
>>55572797
Came to say this.
On the one hand we have cultural marxism tearing down all moral and social structures of the West, as well as SJWs creating and enforcing hate-thought laws and witch-hunts for anything deemed even slightly bigoted, and the constant maintenance of such censorship though the victimhood culture finding a new oppressed group nearly every year.
On the other the huge surplus in technology has made it so much easier than ever imaginable to overdose on fufilling basic pleasures such as internet porn, abundance of delicious but not-so-healthy food, etc. not to mention the above has created a feelings-first mentality amog much of the populace, and though and so much choice in everything that it beomes a large distraction(though, it's a more natural progression from the benefits of capitalism, but it's coupled with the lack of restraint in society these days).
1984 from SJW
Brave new world for nearly everyone else.
To quote Rick Roderick: " Orwell’s vision of a horrible future which was a boot stomping on a human face forever is a utopian image because he assumes there would be resistance and human faces; both of which may turn out to be false."
No one will fight back once 1984 gets full control.
Neither, we are much closer to the world described in pic related.
This
>>55572682
little bit of both. i lean towards brave new world because big pharma is a govt institution
If any people on this website had actually read 1984 they'd realize that it's not close to reality today.
>>55572797
agreed, contemporary society is kind of a perverted mix of both, with some "Animal Farm" sprinkled on top
>>55572797
nightmaregoggles.png
>>55575108
lot of book burning where you live?
>>55572682
Harrison Bergeron out of anything else, desu senpai.
>>55575408
Shut the fuck up Ahmed
>>55572682
They're going for the worst of both worlds.
>>55572682
More like The Camp of Saints desu senpai
>>55575559
No, the world today is fucked up and awful but not close to what 1984 describes.
>>55575628
we got telescreens doe
>>55572766
please find it I'd like to read it this is the topic of a paper i'm writing
>>55572682
I'm doing a paper on this now
>>55575699
were also at the proto- though police stage. by deciding what language is acceptable and what is not, people are effectively policing their own thoughts. give it time and google will do it for us
>>55572682
BNW.
Pot is Soma.
>>55573231
Aka public schooling starting at kindergarten and preschool
>>55572756
Die ewige jude deserved an Oscar for best documentary?
Third world left, first world right
>>55574957
Most of the college kids are going to realize that businesses won't hire whiny children.
>>55576090
I was Berlin during the Reich. The Premiere for the movie.
>>55572682
Anyone have PDFs of both books? Or any /pol/ related books?
>>55572766
Please find it and post.
>>55575528
Leave it to Canada to be illiterate.
>>55575408
Driver du?
>>55576325
Yeah, I got both from that one /pol/ recommended reading dump.
SJWs are like the child heros of 1984
>>55572797
this. we have all the worst of brave new world, but with the orwellian surveillance and acceptance of surveillance of 1984
>>55572682
Both,alas .I shall die soon. It's inevitable. I've left loads of money for my family. I hope they live to enjoy it.
Two types of cancer. I can't describe the pain. It's horrible. I'm close to dead and am holding on my children. Death can't come soon enough. I just want release from this agony.
Who will care for my kids and mother when I go?
>>55576325
>>55576651
https://d.maxfile.ro/nmfcqwypdc.7z
If your computer/browser freaks out about the website/download ignore it, maxfile is just a pomf clone.
>>55572797
this
anon is right
it's the worst elements from both combined into a noxious cocktail of totalitarian faggotry and mandated self-destruction
>>55572682
Brave New World, but the future is Neither.
In both books, the powers that be kept the population around for some reason. Somehow people were needed. In fact people aren't needed going into our future. People will start violently defending their niches, and we'll head toward techno-feudalism. Long term it might be like that Asimov planet populated by very few insanely wealthy people that never talk to each other except to rarely exchange genes. But the robots will be running the show behind the scenes, and might outright take over.
Brave New World was soft-control and the trains ran on time ( That's us really ).
1984 was hard control, and things were broken but it was all 'double-plus good' ( The trains run on time, so no need for 1984 yet )
its like a mix, nad they honestly go hand in hand, what happens is that a bunch cultural marxists push for progress and it turns into a brave new world style life for a while, then the waves of idiots who can't control themselves turn in tides against eachother, and the government goes to a 1984 control system but no one notices because they are too drugged up.
Both 1984 and Brave New World warned us of what we see happening today.
Both Orwell and Huxley are rolling in their graves.
>Brave New World
-Everyone fucks each other mindlessly
-Everyone self medicates with illegal drugs and alcohol
-Everyone who thinks outside the box is given legal drugs
-Everyone is content with their digital wombs
-Everyone is obsessed with sex and popularity
>1984
-Everyone has fully accepted unrestrictable government surveillance without a fight
-Everyone who thinks outside the views of the Baby Boomer, 60's establishment is ostracized and outcasted
-Everyone is trained how to think in government funded brain washing camps (universities)
-Freedom of Speech is being slowly eroded
-Freedom to Bear Arms is being slowly eroded
-Freedom of Movement is being slowly eroded
-Everyone blames their problems on a strawman/scapegoat, instead of self critiquing and contributing to society.
Pretty much the worst aspects of both, although we obviously haven't gone to the extent of FUCKED in the fictional worlds.
THERE'S STILL TIME
>>55577395
Take it easy buddy, why not smoke some pot to calm down.
It's better to give a gramme than a damn after all.
>>55577395
The only answer to both is to abandon computers and the Internet for good. Literally throw it out. The Internet is the new world order.
>>55576125
The reverse will happen; CEOs will be made to step down for misoginy if they don't hire women with gender studies degrees, or are shown to express opinions that deviate from the norm. Like with Firefox's CEO.
