am i the only commie here on /pol/
not sjw, but old school commie.
what do you think about me?
>what do you think about me?
You're a commie.
>>55570337
old commie, yes.
>>55570308
Fuck off, commie scum.
Fuck off kike
Slav rape baby. Looks like thinking is genetic.
>>55570443
communist slag
Hey >>>/soc/
Rate my ideology.
>>55570308
I don't think anything about you. Tell me, why are you a commie?
>>55570508
>>55570513
>>55570544
>>55570677
>pic
>>55570641
>ahmed
>>55570308
Your ideology is dead, so you're irrelevant. The 21st century battle is the race question.
>>55570721
strong military country, no slow and shitty democracy, atheist, proleterian, weltschmerz for motherland
>>55570308
Are you a cute commie or a fat autistic commie
>>55570308
Youre a disgusting human being that idolises Lenin and isnt afraid to slaugther the millions to achieve your goals. Modern communistis are subhumans.
>>55570907
>cute commie
Wut?
>>55570846
>
>>55570907
gun commie.
You're an idiot or just a kid. Yuri Bezmenov defector said it best.
>>55571038
muslims are shit.
if commie is okay with any religion, he is not a commie
>>55570308
I think you have no grasp whatsoever on economics.
>>55571038
>Implying
>>55571142
pls
>>55571096
Commies are pro White genocide because they are kike puppets. They like mudslimes nit because of their religion but because they are brown.
Of course a commie kike would never understand how important race is. Marx believed race is a trick of the bosses to trick and divide the "proletariat".
>>55571041
Show me a pic of your guns then pleb
>>55571190
k
>>55571191
Perfect example of why we need capitalism and not a state-run bank.
So no, you have no grasp whatsoever on economics.
>>55571214
>
>>55571248
libertard
>>55571231
>>55571358
>>55570847
But communism is democracy by it's definition. Austria was a communist country too. look at the constitution of that time.
the proletarian thing worked just like racial diversity nowadays. you have to hire the semi analphabet tyrone over the yale graduate steven just because he is black (comes from the working class)
The world today is led by commies, they just came up with a gradual from cultural marxism to food stamps for everyone, just like in communism.
In fact, the >>55570535 pic is more related to commies, especially in terms of aspirations (not working, being on welfare, rotting in his own laziness, aka 'being free of doing whatever he wants', a state which he never loses as he never does anything)
If you're a true commie, you just wait, we're closely getting there.
>>55571190
9/10
>>55571431
I'm a white separatist not a nazi
>>55571038
I hope that person in the right is a guy
>>55571524
you mix me up with sjws,
i want sandnigs to integrate, or deport.
sadly this wont happen so i can pick up on what you are speaking about.
>>55571677
You want niggers ti integrate so you can suck the "bbc" fucking gay commie
Old school non SJW commie
>>55571096
Then most communists are not real communists, because most communists these days want Europe to be invaded by Muslims and taken over. Again, both in North America and Europe, the race question reigns supreme.
>>55570308
Your shitty, the apporatchiks above you think of you as a useful idiot. An means to an end, and once you've done your part comrade androvov will crush you like bug.
You're not the only one, anon. Join us on 4*2chan's /leftypol/.
>>55571874
reported don't promote that website over here
>>55571914
>being this butthurt over socialism
>>55571726
rule number one,
if you are communist, you hate religion.
since there is nobody above humans, no hirearchy.
so many "communist" fail on basics.
rule no two
communist hates capitalism first, everything els later.
these "communist" have no problem with capitalism. they push their shit agenda and fucking swim in lobbing money.
>>55570308
I don't understand why commies don't just cut to the chase and embrace fascism. It's pretty much functional socialism, unlike the inefficient bureaucratic clusterfuck that is Bolshevism / Maoism / etc...
Let businesses operate so long as they are made to respect the workers and benefit society, tear down businesses that poison society or abuse workers and hang their corrupt CEOs. Promote unity across all social classes instead of simply ripping them all down. Stand against abusive globalist kikes that want to exploit the world for everything it has. It's the best of both worlds.
>>55571248
Its a bank run state not the other way around.
>>55571994
>>55570308
Gas yourself, kike
>>55571874
been there, but...
no reason to circlejerk there mate.
i come here to piss people like this >>55571914
what a tard.
>>55571248
>this isn't TRUE capitalism that's why it's not working right
>>55572205
>what a tard
says the nigger loving commie
>>55570308
COMMIE SCUM GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>55572145
why you fucking obsessed with murcia mate, no body gives a shit about fucking bernie or obamer or trump. americas fucked up europe with immigrants, and now i have to talk about them, just gtfo tard.
>>55572244
How many times has capitalism worked compared to communism? EXACTLY
>>55572106
capitalism in and of itself exploits the proletariat and is a scourge on society when compared to socialism
promote unity among social classes? why the fuck do we need a bourgeoisie with inflated wealth and sense of self?
>kikes
lmao fucking fascists, how about you look around and realize that people of your own ethnic group have been exploiting you for decades. They WANT you to think its da joos
If a Jew is bourgeois scum, he should be treated like all other bourgeois scum (regardless of ethnoreligious identity)
>>55572244
in relation to your pic
>>55572296
>"je suis Ahmed"
Communism fails to provide the protection necessary for survival.
You are just part of political machinery involved in white rape.
The russians have now finally neutered it, within their own country. But thats after losing how many christians?
Fail.
And to think, the original revolutionaries were ''going to stop the mistake of world war 1 happening again! ''
fucking comedy gold. And we all know how the jews love gold.
>>55571677
>i want sandnigs to integrate, or deport.
That's a mistake. you see how they evolved on their own, yet you think their genetics and culture will be automatically cancelled when they see your way of life. That is false, traditions never change, especially the bad ones. For instance, take romania, it is implausible that we will ever accomplish anything when you look at our long lasting history of corruption and betrayal, the first documented cases being when the boyars betrayed their princes, and that only because writing slowly started to reappear in these lands only then. We thought the system was a problem, nope. We've tried being a kingdom, a socialist republic, a capitalist republic, everything went bad. We even brought a foreign dinasty, from the hohenzollern branch, didn't work.
That's how we became after assimilating a huge load of turanic peoples and slavs, imagine how you will become after assimilating niggers.
>>55572336
You aren't my mate you're a traitor to the white race and probably a fag
>>55572244
Those are four different leaders that could maybe be consider capitalistic, and it's a better system solely for the fact that every time it's been done it hasn't ended up as a dictatorship
>>55570308
>what do you think about me?
You're a confirmed imbecile?
>>55572357
capitalism has uplifted more people from poverty then any other system in human history. So how is a system that has benefitted the average persons life drastically against them?
>>55572498
tito haven't send enough of you on naked island.
>middle class hipster commie from a country that never got to experience communism
What a shock.
>>55572443
you britbongs are all mates.
>>55572357
>capitalism in and of itself exploits the proletariat and is a scourge on society when compared to socialism
Capitalism has its pros and cons like any economic system, we should be looking for a way to use it to benefit the whole of society and not just the special few, put in on a leash. Capitalism is inherently efficient - far more efficient than "pure socialism" (if there even is such a thing). It is socialism's inefficiency that kills people, be it through famine or corruption, it is nice on paper but in practice there needs to be a fusion of capitalistic elements so as to keep it operating efficiently in accordance to the constantly shifting demands of the people.
>>55572561
>naked island
Kek'd. Anywho, suck nigger cocks and die, faggot.
>>55570308
I think you're fucking stupid.
Communism can work, and be really efficient, though. If only it weren't governed by a corrupted human being.
If somebody just made a governing system with an AI to micromanage everything out for everybody to do what they want then we'd be set.
Basically the Patriots system from Metal Gear except for comrades.
Finally a chance to post her.
>>55572689
how much you are being paid per hour for doing this?
>>55570308
They think you're an sjw.
>>55572739
Hail glorious leader!
>>55572690
>>55572622
this
>>55572730
i agree. humans are shit
>>55572560
>capitalism has uplifted more people from poverty then any other system in human history
true. If you'd ever bothered to read Marx, you would know it is a central tenet of marxism that capitalism is better than the systems that came before due to its great capacity for wealth creation and distribution (relatively speaking of course, because feudalism was much worse, and slave societies were even worse)
Socialism will uplift even *more* people out of poverty, exploitation, and alienation than capitalism did when it replaced feudalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_of_production#Main_modes_of_production_in_history
>>55572498
izdajnicka stoko kako mozes tako da pljujes na Titovu memoriju
>>55572754
Get out of my country!
>>55571248
>capitalism has failed
We need MORE capitalism ! :DDD
>>55570308
I think you have brain problems, OP.
>>55572792
i am aware.
>>55572810
zato sto je chetnicki smrad.
>>55572810
Lol just lol
>>55572356
None because it can't work by itself. It always leeches off socialism.
>>55572730
>If somebody just made a governing system with an AI to micromanage everything out for everybody to do what they want then we'd be set.
thank your scummy imperialist government for destroying Allende's chance of implementing just that in Chile then (google CYBERSYN)
>>55572645
yeah capitalism has its pros and cons, and it's time for socialism to fix those cons
socialism means no more private ownership of the means of production, not bernie sanders 2016
>nice on paper but in practice there needs to be a fusion of capitalistic elements so as to keep it operating efficiently in accordance to the constantly shifting demands of the people
yeah ok maybe but only if you mean market socialism and not a simple expansion of the welfare state
and even then it should serve as a stepping stone to full communism
>>55570308
>55570308
>old school commie
If that's the case you should be in the mines, not here
>>55572443
>traitor
nah Austrians are bro-tier...but on the other hand
>>55572983
Bonjour now fuck off you frog eating communist cu.ck
>>55572357
There was literally nothing wrong with Chavez.
>>55573061
What a bore
>>55573052
8 MILLION REFUGEES
Communism is filled with flaws, but associating it to jews is just plain retarded, specially considering that its a regime where private property is forfeit.
>>55573061
this guy is my favorite Ahmed on 4chan.
>>55573155
And associating modern socialism, and even state-regulated capitalism to communism is retarded.
>>55573155
>Marx
>Stalin
>Trotsky
ALL JEWS
>>55573016
The real problem isn't whether communism is better than capitalism. It is whether you nurture the right values within a nation. If you do that, all the systems will work. if you stick to the values that niggers nurtured for millenia, every form of market, every form of government, every policy will fail.
>>55573155
i never stated that isnt filled with flaws.
but, compared to this shit now...
>>55572357
>Fascists are capitalists
Are you really this retarded? Do you know that the socialist policies that we still have here were created under the fascist regime?
Does being pro private property make you a capitalist?
Don't you realize that open borders benefit the 1% ruling class while they spoil the living conditions for 99% of the population?
Are communists really this dense?
>>55573227
Stalin wasn't a jew
>>55573183
>calls me ahmed
>is a commie swine
>>55573052
Come on Jürgen, just one last time.
This time we have the rest of Europe actually on our side!
Let's do this!
>>55573301
1/3
>>55573227
>Marx, coming from Rabbi's family.
>Stalin, got euphoric when he got to work for Rothschilds family
>Trotsky, real name: Bronstein
JEWS
>>55573420
Gob Bless Gobbunism
>>55573278
in a way this is true, but problem is that capitalism does not treat people equally, you have uneducated people voting for populist parties, country does not want people to be educated, or well informed. capitalism needs zombies. and its paradox.
>>55573016
>socialism means no more private ownership of the means of production, not bernie sanders 2016
I agree that Bernie is a faggot. The problem with public ownership of the means of production is the fact that the public, as a whole, don't have the capacity to operate the means of production in accordance to the needs of society, because they mostly have no adequate knowledge of logistics required to maximize efficiency. Not only that, but the abolition of wages altogether would completely rid them of even the incentive to increase their efficiency at all.
>and even then it should serve as a stepping stone to full communism
If we reach a stage in human development where communism can work on its own, then I would have no problem with that, but that is far away from now. Maybe when we develop supercomputers capable of competently organizing a classless society on a massive scale we can consider it, but we don't have that ability right now.
>>55573420
The goyim know
>>55573155
And so was lenin, but it doesnt matter still, for from a far right perspective, the jewish menace comes mostly from their economic supremacy, and communism hates the rich ferociously.
Theres a reason Trump married his daughter to one.
>>55573334
give us Strache as leader and we will consider it
>>55570308
Hi, commie.
When was the last time you killed people or otherwise ruined someone's life just because they worked hard AND earned more money than you?
Yesterday, today?
>>55573509
amhed you are still here? dam, this topic must be super interested for you.
>>55573606
Just like neo Nazis, commies are irrelevant and basically a LARP group.
>>55573556
this, thanks.
>>55573606
>describes bourgeoisie as working hard.
>>55573685
brettygood5/5.jpg
now go get some burger for reward.
>>55570308
>what do you think about me?
die in suffering, bitch
>>55573766
It's true though, thanks for proving my point.
>>55573591
no need, he will win on next elections in austria.
>>55573710
>>>55573606 (You)
>>describes bourgeoisie as working hard.
So, you just did ruin someone's life?
Huh, and I thought we were just kidding around.
You do realize entire Communism ideology is about those who make it into the government (which is other communists) taking full control of everything, right?
It's pyramid scheme. That's all that Communism is.
>>55573710
>describes bourgeoisie as working hard.
Classifying all "bourgeoisie" as lazy assholes is incredibly short-sighted. Many of them are, but many also worked up from the bottom and made the best of the situation they were in. My parents were poor as shit when they were young, but after years of working their asses off and not being complete idiots with their money, they were able to retire in their early 50s. Does that make them assholes? I don't think so, I see them as smart people who did the absolute best they possibly could with the circumstances they were given, to think there are people in the world who want to take everything they've slaved away for and redistribute it because of some idiotic author of some broken ideology said so enrages me.
>>55573948
thats a socialist scheme, and even if its pyramid like, it has less layers.
>>55573948
No-no, Lenin said that communism is about proletariat dictature and military gommunism))) And you are just capitalist shill who will be executed then we will make the Revolution)))
>>55574029
Okay, why don't you explain your brand of Communism to us than.
That way you can't dishonest your shit out of everything people accuse you of.
Describe in full what it is you actually believe and don't use any general hints. Actually tell it like you think it.
If you people aren't just con artists than maybe you can be consistent for five seconds.
>>55574085
Can't tell if sarcasm or yet another mass murdering Communist. Not like there's communist who's entire REAL ideology is finding stupid excuses to kill people.
>>55573288
The real menace these days is rampant liberalism. Its counter is conservatism, both on an economic and moral level.
Neither of the extremes work for this (nazi shitheads and bolcheviks). Why should one remain a subject or just another "cog in the wheel" instead of a citizen. All we need to do is enforce border control (including stoping refugees) and empower customs like the old days.
Also, the euro sucks and china is ruining the western world, but nobody gives two fucks about this anyway.......they would rather either follow an "enlightened leader" or just be a libtard.
>>55573474
>capitalism does not treat people equally, you have uneducated people voting for populist parties
>assimilates a form of market with a form of government
I have developed my opinion on you. You are intelligent enough to realize something is wrong but you aren't educated enough to realize what is wrong, you lack the knowledge of concepts that you make use of through the terminology you've heard, you're thinking superficially. No wonder you came up with a solution that is against common sense.
>>55573996
>Classifying all "bourgeoisie" as lazy assholes is incredibly short-sighted.
your parents aren't bourgs, you are.
>>55573685
Neonazis were horrible, but at least they cared about people's property and Germany.
Communists just competed who's going to steal more and kill more people.
>>55574213
Do you actually have any defense of your position or did you just come to get angry and than kill a random person when you out like a typical mass murdering commie?
>>55570308
Sup comrades. One day the peoples of the world will rise once again against the tyranny of corporate capitalist scum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV_DYvzCeIA
>>55573497
It's not that bad when the needs and means are local. Intense expansion is where they fucked up in the early 1900's and contributed to the national vs international debate. In today's global economy global communism would be a must but it might be near impossible without leaps in technological logistics.
If we went down this road we might be better off disbanding nations and creating internally communist city states with external market based trade.
>>55574285
>One day the peoples of the world will rise once again against the tyranny of corporate capitalist scum.
So, you're trying to get people to kill people and steal their stuff again?
>>55574241
I think we can all agree the current model of "democracy" is dumb and without merit.
This devolves people into neo Nazi and communist ideals(LARPers), who ultimately will achieve nothing and do nothing.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't be nationalistic and whatnot though.
>>55574213
How so? I work. It was thanks to my parents that I was able to get an education to work the job I work, and I haven't used their money at all since I started making my own. Classifying someone as bourgeoisie because they were born to parents who have money seems ridiculous.
>>55574365
You know... we debated a hundred times that Hitler attacked Russia only because he knew the war was coming anyway.
Seems to me the commies were aggressors, not the Nazis.
If Nazi Germany never happened, we'd all be starving to death and getting mass murdered by communists every time we'd complain that the system doesn't work.
>>55573591
I have a feeling that soon, far greater leaders will emerge.
Even Hitler saw himself as a follower until he was jailed.
>>55573420
All your capitalist gods are jews or suck circumcised dick. Now what ? Can we have a serious discussion ?
>>55574486
I'm not talking about actual National Socialists or Communists of old, but the modern person who takes up these same exact ideals, as if they were an actual German of the Nazi era.
>>55574562
Jews are successful because they always defend each other.
They'd against a Jew mixing with a non-Jew. They'll always employ a Jew over someone else.
They won't take any multicultural bullshit in Israel, but will totally be for it in non-Jewish countries.
etc.
And there's plenty of ways to get into power. Better that a Jew gets into power with a successful company than by simply taking people's stuff through communism.
Communism is after all a monopoly of all capital by those in power.
Communism is capitalism at the exact moment when capitalism goes into it's worst and most extreme status: monopoly.
>>55574188
>21 century
>muh developed opinion
kek
i know issues with communism.
i stated them before, you can read them up somewhere. people need to be extremely educated to even begin with. people are not.
>>55574186
dude, people are actually leaving your country... dont get me wrong. europe has to become better, but i do agree, this with refugs is not the way.
>>55574353
for sure
>>55574663
I disregarded what you said. I just wanted to say what I did.
I don't support Nazis at all, but between Commies and Nazis there's no doubt Commies were the bad guys.
>>55574742
You're only using sarcasm, because a real answer would reveal that Communism necessarily leads into theft and mass murder.
Every single time Communism was tried it mass murdered by hunger, by executing all who disagreed, by war, etc.
There has never been a brand of communism that didn't include mass murder and yours is no different.
>>55574403
education costs, and you had capital to provide yourself with an education. other people do not have this possibility.
>>55570308
>Austria
Fucken hell, well you are useful idiot.
>>55574704
Depends on who's in power
>>55570308
I stand with you comrade
>>55570430
Better dead than red.
>Commie who is not a sjw
Why do leftists keep using this meme? You are full blown kuck
>>55574923
>Depends on who's in power
You mean like in a company?
If the person in power just gives away right to private property it's kind of like Bill Gates giving to charity.
So no, it does not depend on who's in charge.
COMMUNISM IS ALWAYS CAPITALISM AT MAXIMUM MONOPOLY.
That's a rule that is always true.
>>55575010
>>55575014
>that fucking pic
>I am of real communist, hear me roar
Pathetic cunts.
>>55574904
So what would you have suggested I done? Live as a homeless person until I could afford everything on my own? You surely have been born into some form of luxury, living in a first world country. There are likely many people who did not have the possibilities you have been given, does that not also make you bourgeoisie?
Your definition seems skewed, the only things I currently own are things I bought with my own money and my college degree which was admittedly thanks to my parents.
>>55575014
>commie
You'll never be taken seriously if you use that word. Just like those retarded neo-communists who keep calling anyone who disagrees with them a fascist
>>55575056
You commies can't fight for shit that why your ratio was like 1-20
Pic related limp wristed faggots of today
>>55575122
Why are you so scared of a rational debate ?
>>55575117
Oh no, the commies won't take me seriously :^(
>>55570308
Fucking commie's Anarcho-capitalism is the best system
>>55575117
Who cares if commie makes people dismissive? All reds need to die. They are enemies of whites and white nations. They are enemies of the very concept of a nation state, they are the enemies of western culture. They are the enemy of everything a good and sane person stands for.
>>55575185
>Rational debate
>Commies
>>55575185
What is there to rationalize, that hasn't already been said.
>picture is worth a thousand words
>>55575204
>COMMIES COMMIES COMMIES LEFTISTS LEFTISTS KEKS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Did you ever convince anyone this way ?
>>55575256
Sure thing, Mr KikeCarthy
>>55575341
If I have to convince you, you are not worth the time, almost every time.
It's sad that both /pol/ and /leftypol/ have a majority of idiots some way or another.
People don't seem to actually read up on what they say, old communist isn't SJW and the only reason why /pol/ jerks off capitalism is because of their obsession with nazism, despite the same capitalists almost killing their leader.
Communism, or at least old or theoretical communism has always been about the workers, nothing else, no social bullshit.
Infact you'll find more socially conservative people in a actual communist environment as the USSR literally had no social welfare, no social politics and culture was engraved by the people and not the state.
Infact the capitalists you oh so worship actually created overtly religous athiesm (Sounds like a contradiction but I'm using religious in ideological terms) back in the 1800's, infact most social cancers you hate have been created by them, like labour replacement, feminism, civil rights movements, none of these extended from the USSR.
Not to say the USSR was great, it was a communist bourgeois which essentially lead a great ninety year running union into the ground.
>>55575341
You are a communist. You will dismiss anything on here while pretending you have the moral high ground.
You are a piece of shit and you deserve to have your head smashed in like that spaz in your country a couple years ago.
I agree with Stalin and think its necessary to kill people. The more dead right wingers the better.
>>55575354
>posts a picture of a fag who was brainwashed to think he's a communist
>calls him a "commie"
>thinks it's a valid argument against socialism
>>55575206
Ancap isn't a system nor an ideology, it's a meme
Get fash or you're trash
>>55575376
>Communism
>Not the kikest of all
Don't you have some refugees you need to lube your anus for?
>>55575321
I can't wait until their "revolution" begins, they'll be calling for peace the moment bullets start flying through their proud chests. They're all total cowards.
>>55575417
I'm not a communist. Now shut the fuck up, you paranoid kike slave.
The problem with communism is that it is the antithesis of freedom. It only works if everybody acts in the interests of everybody else. It means that the only way for it to be stable is to remove the ability for people to act in their own selfish interests.
This is a most undesirable outcome.
>>55575479
>Oh no, THESE Jews were completely different
top cluck commies
>>55575407
>the only reason why /pol/ jerks off capitalism is because of their obsession with nazism,
NatSoc != 'let corporations do whatever they want'
So, /pol/ is more of an idiot for that.
>>55575479
Says a kike with nigger culture
>>55575418
Yet another commie that proves all communists are murderers or murderers-wanna-be.
So they want full communism to get away with it.
It's like ISIS, but instead of rationalizing their lust for murder by saying "kuffar are an affront to god and prevent people from going to paradise" you people pretend you're creating a paradise.
It's exactly the same.
But once you do have a commie country, it's never a paradise, just like all those dead suicide bombers who also never see one.
>>55575206
Libtard scum
>>55570308
Do you believe in an authoritarian approach e.g the dictatorship of the proletariat?
>>55575407
No wonder this post is ignored. /pol/ is fucking retarded.
>>55575589
There are many different variations of capitalism, and nazism run under it, the private backers of the nazi regime all owned their private property so essentially they're still capitalist.
I know most people won't reply to me as I'm mostly being objective and basing what I say on facts, but I can't be sad for a board like this not getting what I say, the internet has never been known for intellectualism.
>>55570308
+1 comrade. I'm an old school commie who despise degenerates, western liberals and all sorts of faggots.
SJWs need a good ol' genocide.
>>55575558
If you want total freedom you'd be an anarchist, the freedom you are afforded is the freedom the government allows you to experience, and it is very far from total freedom. American freedom (or any freedom, for that matter) hasn't truly existed since the government achieved the ability to overpower the people.
The notion of freedom is nonsensical in the modern world, everyone is just on varying lengths of chain.
>>55575206
In an anarcho-capitalist system you'd be sucking german cocks for a living. Why do you advocate it ?
>>55575746
Too late. Everybody in europe is.
>>55575590
>Nigger culture
>kike
>Can't deny the holocaust
>has murals put up by commie mayors that literally say french women a for African men
>>55570308
It depends. Do you support the NEP or you're a full blown marxist?
I'm ok with the soviet union, just like mussolini and probably even hitler were.
>>55575685
>>55575691
Both old Nazis and old Communists do not exist anymore.
It is irrelevant to claim either of these ideals as your own, but please, keep telling me things I already know.
>>55575872
>has murals put up by commie mayors that literally say french women are for African men
forgot to mention this is in your fucking capital. This is what you get for allowing democratic socialists, commies and other reds to live
>>55575532
Yet here you are defending your fellow reds and socialism even though it made your country a shithole on the path to becoming third world lol
>>55575872
>Jews were literally banished from the USSR
>DEM DAM LEFTIES CORRUPTIN ER SUSAIETIE
>>55575926
Plenty do, infact one of the most prevalent communists is exactly that, see slavoj zizeck.
>>55575932
>Putting social democracy and communism together
You really, really, really don't know how much they hate each other.
>>55575985
Again, a lot like Muslim extremists.
>>55575455
Democratic socialism, progressive socialism and any socialism that does not put their nation state first and foremost over their kike dogma are reds and pretty much a argument against themselves
>>55576044
Ironically the examples of nationally based socialism have been some of the most pregressive, see europe.
>>55575691
>There are many different variations of capitalism, and nazism run under it, the private backers of the nazi regime all owned their private property so essentially they're still capitalist.
I guess this might be true, I don't know, but they didn't just let corporations do whatever they want, NatSoc was an ideology, and they had ideas like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program
It wasn't what the idiots on /pol/ seem to like to tell themselves it was, it was actually too 'leftist' for the idiots of /pol/'s liking.
>I know most people won't reply to me as I'm mostly being objective and basing what I say on facts, but I can't be sad for a board like this not getting what I say, the internet has never been known for intellectualism.
Well, they weren't communists either despite their name, pic related. (translation: death to marxism)
>>55576006
>hate each other
>atleast a dozen governments in europe \ put together by that exact combo
You are retarded
>Stalin was mean to jews once
HAHA SEE THAT MEANS USSR WAS ANTI JEW IN YOUR FACE
There is literally nothing wrong with Commies and they are removing Kebab right now.
>>55576006
>see slavoj zizeck.
I was referring more so to North Western Europe, North America and Australia.
Where National Socialism and Communism are held up by people completely devoid of rational thought.
>people actually think Marx'a analysis of capitalism isn't 100% correct
Step it up. He was just off by about 175 to 200 years. The current global economic system is unhealthy.
>>55576118
I don't think you know much about europe at all. As I said before I'm pretty sure you are retarded.
>>55576157
No, they're not.
You probably mean Russia which isn't a communist country at all nowadays.
>>55576157
>removing kebab
>not inviting them to europe
Typical delusional lefty/pol/ propaganda
>>55576157
Russia is one of the most nationalist countries in Europe and it has a mixed economy. Meaning they're socialists.
Russia is literally natsoc.
>>55576157
>>55576276
http://www.communist-party.org.uk/britain/75-political-report/2153-communists-urge-british-and-un-action-to-help-refugees.html
>>55576142
>Any existent communist socities in 2015 besides cuba..
You're retarded.
>>55576171
Fair enough, a lot of westerners are fucking ignorant regardless of political stance I'll give you that.
>>55576224
Dude, tell me a nation in europe which actually has THEORTICAL Communism or socialism, not just boogymannery.
Infact most socialist countries today are akin nazi regime's one with the whole democratic socialism bullshit which still allows capital.
>>55576290
I can't remember russia having social welfare.
>>55576335
England's conservative party is pro-refugee and anti-nationalist, what now american?
What is your next straw.
Are there even any real commies left?
The SJWs aren't communist, the whole thing is about working according to your abilities and recieving according to your needs.
In their view communism is just free stuff and sheeit.
>>55576371
>I can't remember russia having social welfare.
So it's capitalist plus state owned
I don't know about that either.
Either way Russia is reliably not a communist country.
"Russia has a high-income mixed economy with state ownership in strategic areas of the economy. Market reforms in the 1990s privatized much of Russian industry and agriculture, with notable exceptions in the energy and defense-related sectors."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia
>>55576393
Not in the west, it is prevalent a lot in the middle east though, look at YPG and other syrian factions.
Though that's probably a result due to syrian nationalism for a few hundred years and no american liberalism really getting tot hem.
>>55576480
You're right mate, it hasn't be truthfully communist since the 70's at least.
>muh evil darkies genocide against the white people
>>55576371
>He thinks communist parties in europe are not real and are powerless
>>55576371
>my fellow reds are actually nazis because they don't adhere to my special snowflake syndrome
Thanks needed that laugh
>>55576371
That's because the conservative party in the uk has a democratic socialist wing and despite being a small faction are extremely powerfull.
Yes thersa may and david cameron deserve death right next to you
Thanks I needed that laugh
>>55576558
Bait somewhere else, we've got at least now a real discussion, we don't need more idiots regardless of political orientation.
>>55570308
There is no such thing as an "old school commie" You are all faggots or useful idiots. The issue is never the issue, the only issue is the revolution.
>>55570308
>what do you think about me?
Kill yourself mah man.
Larp harder.
>>55576544
And China isn't communist either.
"China's socialist market economy[18] is the world's second largest economy by nominal GDP,[4][19] and the world's largest economy by purchasing power parity according to the IMF,[20] although China's National Bureau of Statistics rejects this claim.[21] Until 2015[22] China was the world's fastest-growing major economy, with growth rates averaging 10% over 30 years.[23] Due to historical and political facts of China's developing economy, China's public sector accounts for more share in the national economy with the burgeoning private sector.[24][25]"
The biggest commie countries of the past became much more competitive after throwing it away.
Every single communism was a mistake. It is irredeemable.
The proofs that communism is a huge mistake are overwhelming.
>>55576558
It's a red genocide against white people. Darkies are just tools you kucks use.
>>55570308
What form of communist?
>>55576607
>my fellow reds are actually nazis because they don't adhere to my special snowflake syndrome
what..
You're fucking stupid.
How can social democratic parties, which have historically been pro-capitalist, be communist?
Are you legitimately fucking retarded?
>He thinks communist parties in europe are not real and are powerless
They aren't communists, they have social democratic ideals.
>That's because the conservative party in the uk has a democratic socialist wing and despite being a small faction are extremely powerfull.
>I'm going to ward off something to pretend another party is to blame for it
goddamnit america
>>55576697
..
It is state capitalist, which is basically what russia was for atleast 90 years and you're trying to tell me china isn't communist.
Goddamn it /pol/
Please can you stop being retarded for once, I'm bored and want an actual discussion.
>>55575691
>>55575926
>>55576006
National Socialism wasn't communist, and wouldn't just let corporations do whatever they want while harming everyone else either.
I'm pretty sure some of /pol/ only likes the authoritarianism, thinks they would go along with whatever stupid bullshit that only an asshole would want that they want, and doesn't have the slightest clue how the national socialists thought at all. In fact, that might be most of /pol/, it's more depressing than it is amusing to see how stupid /pol/ really is anymore.
>>55576241
>>55576290
Read the flag, you ignorant nazi cocksucker.
>>55576611
>blaming everything about Jews
>real discussion
Yeah right, I bet you also think Islam will take over Europe. It is hilarious how /pol/ think Jews/lizardmen are behind everything.
>>55576851
The fuck are talking about?
I'm not a Nazi and Russians are nationalists and Russia isn't a communist country, end of.
>National Socialism wasn't communist, and wouldn't just let corporations do whatever they want while harming everyone else either.
...
Again, I never said that.
SOCIAL DEMOCRACY IS NOT COMMUNIST.
It is capitalist.
Fuck a literal google search will tell you that.
>>55576874
I'm a mutalist laughing at the same people you're trying to blanket me as.
Go falseflag elsewhere you cunt.
>>55576836
Communism is just something you reds reach for. It's a Utopian vision kucks like you have in mind. It doesn't matter how they get there as long as that's what they are reaching for, that is why your distinction is silly and not worth a damn.
I don't even like fascist and authoritarian governments in general but ended up really liking Hitler, and admiring the nazis, because..
>a very rare sight, actually
>fascists with actual good intentions
>who manage to take over for a while
..well, it's no wonder the world just smashed them, actually.
>>55576241
>>55576290
You do realize that YPG are Kurds, right?
>>55576874
>right I bet they think islam will take over turkey and spain
Oh wait >>55576851
>highest per capita of neo nazis
>>55576957
He >>55576157 doesn't mean Russia at all.
Russians aren't nationalists because there are 180+ nationalities in Russia and Russian or other nationalists are looked down upon by the majority of population.
>>55576838
See
>>55576959
>>55576964
I'm a mutalist, not a communist, so you're just trying to blanket me to shame the discussion because I'm more educated then you.
Can you stop being pathetic?
And at least put up an argument.
> It's a Utopian vision kucks like you have in mind.
That's funny I remember disliking pure communism for being utopain.
I swear you people just like to paint pictures instead of prove them.
>>55576959
Once again communism is something you reach for, not something you ever really have.
If you are fighting for a utopia communist society in the future it doesn't matter if your a stock broker
>>55576836
It fucking has a private sector.
"Following Mao's death in 1976 and the consequent end of the Cultural Revolution, Deng Xiaoping and the new Chinese leadership began to reform the economy and move towards a more market-oriented mixed economy under one-party rule."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China#Economy
China is not a communist country, fuck you if you disagree, we're done. Nothing to discuss here.
If you don't believe me, fine. I don't believe you.
>>55577003
hitler was really a centrist and most people would like him if they knew his policies, thats why they have to demonize him, a fascist economy would result in higher profits for everyone but due to the heightened position of the common man they elite have less comparative power, and thats really all profit is about to them
>>55577073
>I'm more educated then you
>Translation :I have a special snowflake political ideology and It makes me feel superior
I already knew that
>>55577121
You fuckwitt, see
>>55577073
>>55577123
>, Deng Xiaoping and the new Chinese leadership began to reform the economy and move towards a more market-oriented mixed economy under one-party rule.
>market-oriented mixed economy under one-party rule.
>one-party rule.
>NOT STATE CAPITALISM?
God you people are fucking retarded
>>55577195
see>>55577184
Just go back to lefty/pol/, snowflake
>>55577070
Right, so suddenly there's no such thing as a Russian, but that wasn't brought up in brazillion other conversations?
There's 180+ nationalities in every 1st and maybe 2nd world country.
>>55577226
>Hey, I can't fight against him because he's right
>Better try to deflect the argument
Fucking hell
I don't like /pol/ boogymannery outside of /pol/ itself but I'm legitimately starting to hate this board for how fucking retarded it is.
Nearly as much as I hate /v/
>>55570308
I hope you get your wish. The genuine Marxist believers are usually the first any communist regime lines up against the wall.
>>55577195
State capitalism is usually described as an economic system in which commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity is undertaken by the state, where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises
Slovenia has state owned for profit companies, too.
Does that mean we're communist country?
YOU'RE the retard here.
>>55577292
You can't even spell mutualist. Like I said you are the retard
>>55577302
Sadly, this isn't far from the truth as a regime is usually lead by a bourgeise.
>>55577320
The USSR and PRC used exactly the same economy.
And you're trying to tell me it isn't a approach to communism.
>>55577355
Well done, you're on the same level as a liberal progressive for when they can't argue anything else then spelling mistakes, you've become your own enemy.
>>55577320
"communist" is synonymous with "bad guys"
just like terrorist dictator and fascist, its all buzzwords and should be translated as |those assholes across the river"
>>55577240
Russian is anyone who speaks Russian language and understands Russian culture. Plenty of people who aren't Slavs at all call themselves Russian and everyone except retarded neonazis is fine with that.
Not many 1st and 2nd world countries are federations with different nationalities having their own republics with their own official languages, history, traditions and religions.
>>55577412
Look if you can't even spell what you label yourself as then you are retarded. You are basically just a qausi Marxist that thinks the free markets 3d printers will set the workers free or some nonsense
>>55577428
I'm arguing in validity to support communisn/marxian socialist ideals you idiot, I'm not boogymanning.
Class war now!
>>55577373
You didn't say China was close to communism, you said it was communist.
China has been slowly going towards socialism for years now.
Again, Slovenia's government owns for-profit companies, does that mean we're the exact same economy as USSR used?
I think it's all about degrees here. How much of China's capital is in private sector and how much is state owned.
>>55577498
>yet i'm not a communist
top kek
>>55577240
you little faggot I bet you get wet dreams of thinking about getting pounded in a gay orgy with Kadyrov
>>55577560
The american brain truly is limited
>>55577505
Can't you jelly commie take a break from killing successful and happy people for at least a few more years?
>>55577590
zzZzzZzz
>>55577490
>You are basically just a qausi Marxist that thinks the free markets 3d printers will set the workers free or some nonsense
>Marxist that thinks the free markets 3d printers will set the workers free or some nonsense
I'm practically against that, and it is the exact reason why I don't like communism utopainism.
>>55577560
So you wouldn't support reality even if you don't agree with it?
Glad to know where we are at.
>>55577545
>I think it's all about degrees here. How much of China's capital is in private sector and how much is state owned.
I'll admit, I'm not much knowledgeable on that but I won't argue something I don't know about.
I do know that china is definitely heading towards some sort of communism, you don't actually have economic freedom there beyond chinese production.
>>55577609
There is a reason why you are called reds and there is a reason you all teamed up against finland for example. You are one in the same no matter how you deny it.
